#tua speculation

[daniellevera55]

yk what's bad? having an ENTIRE fandom hate a season finale!

tua was disappointing, emotionless and out of pocket

too many plot holes, overlapping storyline, I mean, this season was messy!

shame on the writers, directors and Netflix themselves for ruining something we've waited 3 years for.

[umbrellaacademyfun]

Overthinking the subway scenes in the trailer

Who's ready for some Umbrella Academy speculation??

I want to talk about the subway.

It's interesting that the only two people that we see in this station are Five and Lila. Also of note: We see Five jump into this station. This gives the impression that it's only accessible perhaps through said jumps.

One counter is this part in the trailer where it seems Five and Lila are emerging from a what appears to be a train station exit. This suggests that there is perhaps an exit and entrance. But I wonder if it's still connected to their powers somehow?

Also of note: There's no verbiage on that station exit. All we see is symbols that look suspiciously alien. Maybe that's how things are in this timeline, but maybe it means something more?

This station seems to be connected to the timelines in some way. (That "map" Lila is looking at seems unlike a traditional map, and more like the machine Reginald was working with at the end of s3.) This, and the station exit, makes me wonder if this station is maybe connected to multiple timelines? Perhaps this isn't the final timeline after all?

Also of note: In the scene of Lila crying, she's dressed differently. This suggests the rest of the scenes are close to each other, but this one is at a different moment. Perhaps what they discover here isn't so pleasant? Or, maybe, she's hoping this station holds the key to undoing whatever is making her cry?

Just some thoughts brewing in my brain. My opinion is subject to change and I'd love to hear your thoughts!

[villainwritesbites]

what the emojis might mean (inferring from the teaser)

luther: 🕺 in the trailer, we see Luther at a party, in a ballpit (Luther Dashcon era?), and in an astronaut outfit. Someone mentioned that his name tag at one point says “Fred”. Could be perhaps be employed as a children’s party entertainer? Or a dancer?

diego: 📦 ok I’m not sure what this means. In the trailer he’s at a kids party (his daughter’s?) and he owns a van. Potentially delivery driver vibes?

allison: 🧑‍🧒 this one is obvious. She’s mother and probably reunited with Claire since that was her goal the whole time in S3.

klaus: 🧽 Either he works cleaning something or he became a huge germaphobe after his powers were reversed - in the teaser he wears a mask and gloves too.

five: 🕵️‍♂️ investigation!! He may be investigating how to go back to the OG timeline, or whatever was happening in the subway.

ben: 🔒 in the teaser he was coming out of somewhere with a paper bag. In the promo poster, one of the subway/time lines has a point reading “Ben is released”. Maybe from some kind of a facility? At the end of season 3 he was on a metro/train iirc.

viktor: 🍺 in the teaser it looks like he’s a bartender, so this is pretty easy to figure out.

lila: 🍼 this one is quite obvious too, Lila is mother & just had a child. Although the teaser I think reveals that Allison and Lila are going to go through something together?

reginald: 🧠 maybe a reference to how the whole universe is basically his brainchild and creation, or a reference to the “Hargreeves Home for Wayward Boys”? Which would also by extension be from his mind.

what do you guys think about the emojis?? Some of them are really cryptic but some are very simple.

[tua-five]

Pt.3 about what I spotted in the new video

Okay. Viktor is no longer the cause of the apocalypse. Good for him. But what does that mean about him and his powers? Does he finally have control over them?

To start off, there are bits off a comic strip. It's hard to tell, but I'm guessing that it's from the actual comics that the show is based on. Does this mean Viktor will be more like his comic self? Someone else? What's the connection? We also see him holding beer, so he's finally relaxing. (Maybe..?) He is standing in front of the train lines... if ben is the reason for the apocalypse, but Viktor is standing in front of the train lines, does Viktor have a connection to the trains? Is there no connection and just a random detail? Also, if you look closely, Viktor has umbrellas in his eyes. Is he closer with the family now? In the trailer, we see him with Reginald... what does that mean? How'd he get there? You could also associate that with how his eyes change with his powers, though that might be a stretch.

With Lila, the name tag makes sense. In the s4 trailer, we see her and five in some sort of disguise with name tags, hers saying Nancy.

She looks quite disheveled and caught off guard, but she also does look happy. On her shoulder seems to be a blanket of some sort. For her baby, I assume. She is also holding a baby bottle as well as baby wipes.

For a final thing as an overall, everyone seems to be holding or has some sort of container/bottle with them except for Luther and Klaus. Diego has a baby bottle. Allison has her Scrub-A-Dub bottles. Five has his coffee mug. Ben has that strange container. Viktor has his beer. And Lila has a baby bottle. I don't know, something to think about.

[n25a]

I DON'T LIKE TUA S4. IT'S NOT REAL. TELL ME ITS A JOKE. MY FIVE NOT LIKE THAT. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE PLOT . IDK---😔

[justhereformyblorbos]

The Teaser Trailer: Transcribed

I got so hyped that I combed through the entire teaser trailer at 0.25x speed to catch everything for prediction and speculation. But this might be helpful for people with screen readers, maybe? Or who can’t watch for any other reason.

This is pretty informal, but very interesting to think about!

(1) Luther and Ben walking into the a place lit with orange light.

Speculation: (manor?) I also might be wrong about it being Luther, it’s in shadow, hard to see.

(2) Zoom in on a decrepit, old, cobwebbed “Hargreeves home for Wayward Boys”, and a bird flies away.

(3) Reginald: “Our world is changing,”

(4) Five standing in a subway station as an empty train comes by.

Speculation: time traveling mechanism, also Ben was on a subway in the last scene of season 3, so could be connected!

(5) Reginald: “has changed.”

Another shot of Five looking at the subway from a different angle, slightly alarmed somewhat (I think)

(6) Reginald: “There are some among us”

Viktor as a bartender gets a call, and rubs at his eyebrow a bit.

(7) Reginald: “gifted with abilities”

Allison holds Claire’s cheeks, smiling, in some sort of bedroom.

(8) Reginald: “far beyond the ordinary”

Someone closes the door on Ben, who is holding a plastic bag and appears to be facing a bunch of prison cells, or some other grimy facility.

(9) Diego turning around a small girl with a big grin, who’s about to hit a pinata at a celebration, a bunch of other girls in party hats and their parents, presumably, in line behind her.

Speculation + Commentary: absolutely precious. This is likely Diego and Lila’s daughter.

(10) Reginald: “I have adopted six such children.”

Luther putting on a space helmet in a space suit.

Speculation: Something pertaining to Abigail was on the moon…that was the first timeline, but Spaceboy is looking to be returning!

(11) Reginald: “I give you.. the inaugural class”

Klaus in some sort of grimy apartment. It’s kind of hard to tell.

Speculation: He might be hanging from the ceiling, floating perhaps?

(12) Reginald: “of the Umbrella Academy”.

Viktor, Allison, Five, Klaus, Diego holding Ben’s jacket, then Lila in front of a phonebox in a snowy area.

(13) Luther using the camera to take a picture, saying “aaaaand…..smile!” The van (Diego’s van, most likely) is in the background.

(14) Viktor, Allison, Five, Klaus, Lila: not pleased, Viktor and Lila actually partly cover their faces.

Klaus says “oh no”.

Diego and Ben pose cutely, Diego looking serious while Ben is the only one actually smiling.

The screen gains a white border to show us the actual photo taken.

(15) Netflix logo

(16) Shots of them walking, then shots from the top, then shots from the “front” where we follow Diego.

Diego: “We’re back. We’re back, out the way. Out the way. Out the way.”

Lila: “I’m going in the front!

Allison: Why are you yelling?!

A chorus of groans from the rest.

Ben: Shut up!

(17) They get in the van.

Diego, punching the roof of the car: First mission back!

Ben: Hell yes! Let’s go kill this b****!

Diego driving, Five passenger, Klaus-Lila-Allison middle, Klaus is breathing into a paper bag

Ben-Viktor next to each other.

Luther in the very back.

(18) Comedic pause as everyone reacts with “what the hell” faces.

Allison: This is a rescue mission.

Ben: …Right.

(19) The subway line aesthetic comes in.

Typography: On August 8

The song, “The Final Countdown” starts playing in the background

(20) A huge drone helicopter takes off.

Speculation: I’ve already seen this on the timeline, but apparently this is “The Minerva” from the comics. Credit to @/feralnumberfive for pointing this out!

(21) Subway line graphics

Typography: See the Final Timeline

(22) Five and Lila at a glowing orange subway map, Lila running her hand across it.

Speculation: Likely how they traverse the timelines.

(23) Allison(maybe) and Luther(maybe) looking up at a white and blue pristine building, the van is parked.

(24) “You children bicker constantly..”

Luther does a light shove at Diego, who is in his vigilante gear again.

(25) They’re in the manor, Viktor is angrily punching someone (Ben?) while the rest look surprised, Klaus and Diego try to intervene.

(26) Viktor: “Yeah, and we drive each other crazy.”

Cut to Reginald, who is having this conversation with Viktor.

(27) Five and Diego about to punch each other, with Allison(maybe) coming in yelling at the end.

(28) Allison hitting a steering wheel/car dashboard.

(29) I assume our new characters for the season doing a dance and a synchronized clap. In an attic room (maybe) decorated with multicolored lights.

(30) Viktor: “But when things go to hell,”

On the clap, it cuts to an explosion. A dead soldier with a gun lies to the right, but it’s hard to make out.

Speculation: This is likely connected to the last scene with Ben and the soldier.

(31) It cuts away very quickly, but Five and Lila entering a ruined area, bright fires burning around them. They enter out of the subway with some strange runes and symbols for the “Station”.

Speculation: Another timeline, another apocalypse, or a destroyed Commission headquarters.

(32) A retro diner that sells chicken nuggets. The waiters are handing out guns.

(33) Viktor: “They’re there for me”

Shot of Viktor talking, then Five holding Lila as she breaks down crying. I think they’re still in the subway.

(34) Room with blue neon lights. Reginald strapping Allison down into a machine. Someone else strapping Diego down into a machine. There is a woman behind him. The lights turn red.

Speculation: The woman might be Abigail, Reginald’s wife. Doesn’t look like Grace. This machine might have something to do with the marigold that powers them all.

(35) A lever is pulled. Screen goes dark.

(36) Klaus: “God, what a bunch of losers…”

Klaus sits on the floor, Five, Luther, Allison on a couch.

(37) Diego shirtless and Luther, who seems to be big again, doing a fun little handshake.

(38) Five blinking except its purple instead of Blue.

Confusion: is this the subway again, or somewhere else? There’s a bunch of tile.

(39) A Santa running while shooting guns in both of his hands.

(40) A shot of the magical timeline subway from the subway’s perspective.

(41) A reveal of an Umbrella Tattoo, except instead of curving down it looks like the Umbrella is inside out and spiking up.

(42) Klaus with a bunch of candles and Knick-knacks, likely doing some sort of Seance.

(43) They’re in the van again. No Ben. Diego driving, Allison passenger, Lila-Luther-Five, and Klaus in the back.

(44) The drone thing flying somewhere

(45) Luther emerging from a ball pit with joy in his eyes.

(46) A gloved hand grasping another non-gloved hand with intense orange-yellow-red energy

(47) In a extremely white and fancy room, Reginald approaching with a gun and someone in the foreground falling over (unclear)

(48) Viktor with orange palms sending a plastic of energy at someone.

(49) Luther seems to be fighting someone, and Diego is throwing someone wearing heels through a glass door, same outfits as the handshake scene.

(50) A soldier being dragged by a tentacle. There are dismembered limbs on the floor (hand, head, part of a leg, maybe?).

In the background, something is on fire. Ben’s tentacles sprout from the back instead of his stomach. He takes a deep breath, the soldier flung far into the background with ease.

[kor-ee-an-door]

Am I the one that doesn't think Jennifer is a person, but actually the thing inside Ben? On Ben's tombstone there was a reference to darkness consuming him and we know that he died during a mission when he was a teenager, so I don't think it's a girl or someone he had a crush on, but the manifestation of his powers. Like, Ben was aware of the name Jennifer when Luther mentioned it and later when Viktor was in Ben's room, there are drawings all around that are fantastic, but rather simple, so I really do think Jennifer is the name of the monster, that it has its own consciousness, and the paintings are not of Jennifer but by Jennifer. İt would also makes sense if it grew a bit more peaceful or controlled in the Sparrow Universe than he was in the Umbrella one, thus their Ben wasn't killed by it.

[laurelismyblackcanary]

For me the second season of The Umbrella Academy was the best. After that? A shit show. There isn’t any spoiler for season4 in this post just how I wished it would have ended

Season 4 doesn’t exists. Not the finale and not That storyline, you know which one.

The show ended with the Hargreeves leaving the 60ises and going back in their timeline. Their father is still dead, the Sparrow don’t exist (I mean they were pretty useless anyway).

Allison daughter is exists and she is still getting divorced. Allison is either going to ride off into the sunset with Luther or she meets some version of the guy she was married to in season 2.

The cop lady, whose name I don’t remember now, who died in season 1 saving Klaus is alive and she and Diego will have their happily ever after.

Klaus saved Dave and the two are going to be happy together.

Since Viktor in season 1 was a violinist he will become a famous musician and found some version of the woman he ended up in love with in season 2 and her son.

Five… Five got his happy ending too, whatever it looks like for him. Maybe he found a non mannequin version of Dolores.

Oh and Ben didn’t die. Him and Klaus are always together and he’s happy too. Somehow. Or he died but Klaus can still see him. Take your pick

I never cared much for Luther but he either ends up with Allison or I don’t know he just gets to be happy too.

And the Hargreeves will go on being the dysfunctional but loving family they are.

That’s what happened and I don’t except anything else.