Your fetishes are not a civil rights movement

Transgender man TIRF and Nuance Here to annoy literally everyone (If I lose an argument you are proud of in a comment thread, anon asks are open)

[talontarget]

jkr is literally posting upskirt photos to her social media. when will it finally get through to harry potter fans that their support makes her feel confident and correct enough to do things like this

[g1rluninterruptedd]

told a TRA a woman is an adult human female. they said “define adult”. i defined adult and woman and i asked them “define what an adult and what a woman is”. they said adulthood is a social construct (and they still didn’t even attempt to define adult or woman).🧍‍♀️

[theangryman]

can you define “species” for me?

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

@orwellfanclub

what if this was a transgender man calling? should transgender men be able to access rape counseling?

[orwellfanclub]

Prolly would have just said “I’m a transgender man” if that was the case, right? Why come up with the PCOS bit otherwise?

Anyway, yes, all people should have access to physical and mental health care. As you know.

[theangryman]

the “what if” hypothetical is referring to a counter factual situation - eg, should places like Beira’s Place accept transgender men? individuals that most TERFs claim to categorize as women but can exemplify the deep voice and beard presented here as inherent evidence that an individual was AMAB?

if we arent Rowling fans, why do we absolutely contort ourselves to justify every strange and horrifying thing she does?

[orwellfanclub]

I dunno who “we” is. I am a Rowling fan!

But either way, I don’t think this was strange or horrifying. This was just her pointing out how these men like harassing women who say no and are also delusional about how well they pass, which I think is important!

In theory, yes the woman on testosterone is still a woman and should be allowed. All you’d need is a quick cheek swab!

In practice, this is wildly unlikely to occur because 1. most trans people can’t handle being referred to by their sex in even the most delicate and politically correct ways, so I really doubt a transman would want to go to Women’s Only Center whose therapy is likely very woman-specific even if it would be beneficial.

2. attending this famously female-only space would inherently out this person as trans. Some people might be fine with this but many wouldn’t.

These individuals would likely only be willing to go to one of the many mixed-sex centers instead. I think it’s good to have a variety of centers including mixed sex and single sex for this reason.

Tl;dr It would probably be good for the transman to go to one of these centers though but I think it’s incredibly unlikely.

[theangryman]

ah yes. a trans man in a DV situation would never be afraid or desperate enough to detransition for services. that has actually never happened in the history of ever

obviously when any trans man is sexually assaulted they have immediate access to the CHOICE of help between a mixed sex and women’s shelter

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

@orwellfanclub

what if this was a transgender man calling? should transgender men be able to access rape counseling?

[orwellfanclub]

Prolly would have just said “I’m a transgender man” if that was the case, right? Why come up with the PCOS bit otherwise?

Anyway, yes, all people should have access to physical and mental health care. As you know.

[theangryman]

the “what if” hypothetical is referring to a counter factual situation - eg, should places like Beira’s Place accept transgender men? individuals that most TERFs claim to categorize as women but can exemplify the deep voice and beard presented here as inherent evidence that an individual was AMAB?

if we arent Rowling fans, why do we absolutely contort ourselves to justify every strange and horrifying thing she does?

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

@orwellfanclub

what if this was a transgender man calling? should transgender men be able to access rape counseling?

[iceyrukia]

reblogs disabled so this is a screenshot for safekeeping

[theangryman]

“they invent a version of feminism that lets them stay the same”

isn’t that essentially what a lot of TERFs do on here?

that’s why the focus is trans women and occasionally heterosexual sex work/pornography. none of these require a cis lesbian women to change anything about her daily life

[ruuling]

i'm reaching new heights of rage and disgust towards gender ideology and men in general. there's so much fucking hatred in my heart rn. and it's so hard not having any older women to talk to in depth about this. my friends are all sick of hearing about it. idek what to do anymore. i really need someone to talk to.

[theangryman]

“why don’t my friends understand how important it is to be mad about a social minority with no political power? i’m so sad and empty because my hate group’s ideology makes me socially anathema to normal people”

[theangryman]

Are you generally opposed to transmedicalism and people criticising identities such as non-binary and non-dysphoric trans people or do you believe there's more nuance to be had, unlike with TERFs, who are against all kinds of trans people and transition?

to steal a phrase i saw on here recently i am a “gender annihilationist”

i do think i and many other trans people experience a medical condition. this medical condition shines light on the fact that gender roles are insane bullshit. others who decide to jump across that fence too are not hurting, they should just be helping in dismantling those roles. and like 99% of them are

[ruuling]

its hilarious to me that people try to claim this website is anti-trans when as soon as i switch from the following tab to the for you tab, im inundated with pro-trans propaganda.

[theangryman]

usually algorithms show you the kinda content you interact and engage with?

idk like rn my algorithm is pushing nothing but Project Hail Mary content at me and i have never watched nor think i’m interested in it? but i think i’ve like looked at them too long or something or maybe the things ive talked about has triggered the sci fi stuff

unless you’re being weird and suggesting that trans people existing is “pro-trans propaganda.” i’m afraid you can’t help encountering trans people from time to time as a human being on the planet earth

[parasitefem]

i cannot stress this enough. if you are a radfem, you should be volunteering at your local women’s shelter if you have the time and resources. posting online is cool and all because it gives younger women or women who haven’t peaked yet an opportunity to discover and resonate with radical feminism, but if we want to see actual change in real life we’re gonna have to start it. go to a women’s rehab center, donate clothing to a rape shelter, protest if you can. nothing is hopeless if we become the hope in this world

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

you can tell the difference over the phone?

again, some women have deep voices. can you imagine how fucking horrible it would be to reach out for rape counseling and be treated like this?

what if a trans man called? yall believe trans men are women, should Beira’s place serve trans men?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

idk. but she didn't say that women with pcos and deep voices are men

[theangryman]

she said this specific caller was a man. come on, did your elementary school do the three cuing shit?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

correct, she did. but she did not say that women with pcos and deep voices are men. she obviously believes this caller to be male. even if she was incorrect in that assumption, that doesn't mean she considers women with pcos and deep voices male.

[theangryman]

do you think it is reasonable for someone to say they can 100% determine whether someone is male or female over the phone? if this woman was in fact a cis woman with PCOS, as is likely, how do you she felt? how would it feel if you were raped, reached out for help, and were immediately accused of being trans?

does this not register at all as problematic to you? why are we putting so much work in to defend a billionaire who’s been posting fucking upskirt again? she even fucking wears MAKE UP - i thought we were opposed to that?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I don't. and it would feel shitty. but she simply did not say that women with pcos and deep voices are men or male

[theangryman]

sure, she did not say categorically that all women with PCOS and deep voices are male, but it does seem that she is more than happy to accuse any women with PCOS and a deep voice of being male

it’s almost like all the things actual fucking feminists have been saying about how TERFs are so obsessed with hurting trans women that yall don’t seem bothered by cis women getting caught up in the crossfire

like, ive seen multiple rants by GNC TERFs on here about not wanting to be asked their pronouns/being upset that they are being assumed to be nonbinary. isn’t this quite a bit worse?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

yeah but it's jk rowling. her views might be slightly skewed because she probably has like 6 or 7 gazillion men pretending to be women harassing her at all times, and a very small portion of bearded women with deep voices calling her. so she might have made a snap judgement based on her personal experience. I'm glad we agree that men asserting they are women does end up hurting gnc women though

[theangryman]

oh that poor poor billionaire just HAD to listen to SOMEONE ELSES PRIVATE PHONE CALL TO A RAPE SHELTER AND TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY ON A WEBSITE RAN BY A LITERAL FUCKING NAZI (again - you don’t read very well do you? Rowling didn’t *take* the call)

its not enough that her books are sexist as shit, it’s not enough that she financially supported Johnny Depp’s witch hunt of Amber heard, it’s not enough that she’s in the fucking Epstein files, it’s not enough that she’s posting nonconsensual upskirt photos, nope! the magic billionaire threw some of her pocket change at a single women’s shelter and that bought her exemption from any feminist criticism ever

yall would support Rowling if she just started shooting trans people wouldn’t you? she could probably shoot a couple of butch looking cis women too and you find those acceptable casualties

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

you can tell the difference over the phone?

again, some women have deep voices. can you imagine how fucking horrible it would be to reach out for rape counseling and be treated like this?

what if a trans man called? yall believe trans men are women, should Beira’s place serve trans men?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

idk. but she didn't say that women with pcos and deep voices are men

[theangryman]

she said this specific caller was a man. come on, did your elementary school do the three cuing shit?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

correct, she did. but she did not say that women with pcos and deep voices are men. she obviously believes this caller to be male. even if she was incorrect in that assumption, that doesn't mean she considers women with pcos and deep voices male.

[theangryman]

do you think it is reasonable for someone to say they can 100% determine whether someone is male or female over the phone? if this woman was in fact a cis woman with PCOS, as is likely, how do you she felt? how would it feel if you were raped, reached out for help, and were immediately accused of being trans?

does this not register at all as problematic to you? why are we putting so much work in to defend a billionaire who’s been posting fucking upskirt again? she even fucking wears MAKE UP - i thought we were opposed to that?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I don't. and it would feel shitty. but she simply did not say that women with pcos and deep voices are men or male

[theangryman]

sure, she did not say categorically that all women with PCOS and deep voices are male, but it does seem that she is more than happy to accuse any women with PCOS and a deep voice of being male

it’s almost like all the things actual fucking feminists have been saying about how TERFs are so obsessed with hurting trans women that yall don’t seem bothered by cis women getting caught up in the crossfire

like, ive seen multiple rants by GNC TERFs on here about not wanting to be asked their pronouns/being upset that they are being assumed to be nonbinary. isn’t this quite a bit worse?

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

you can tell the difference over the phone?

again, some women have deep voices. can you imagine how fucking horrible it would be to reach out for rape counseling and be treated like this?

what if a trans man called? yall believe trans men are women, should Beira’s place serve trans men?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

idk. but she didn't say that women with pcos and deep voices are men

[theangryman]

she said this specific caller was a man. come on, did your elementary school do the three cuing shit?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

correct, she did. but she did not say that women with pcos and deep voices are men. she obviously believes this caller to be male. even if she was incorrect in that assumption, that doesn't mean she considers women with pcos and deep voices male.

[theangryman]

do you think it is reasonable for someone to say they can 100% determine whether someone is male or female over the phone? if this woman was in fact a cis woman with PCOS, as is likely, how do you she felt? how would it feel if you were raped, reached out for help, and were immediately accused of being trans?

does this not register at all as problematic to you? why are we putting so much work in to defend a billionaire who’s been posting fucking upskirt again? she even fucking wears MAKE UP - i thought we were opposed to that?

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

you can tell the difference over the phone?

again, some women have deep voices. can you imagine how fucking horrible it would be to reach out for rape counseling and be treated like this?

what if a trans man called? yall believe trans men are women, should Beira’s place serve trans men?

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

idk. but she didn't say that women with pcos and deep voices are men

[theangryman]

she said this specific caller was a man. come on, did your elementary school do the three cuing shit?

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[adeadmanisadeadrapist]

a male who has a beard and is lying about being a female with DSD is not a woman with pcos or a deep voice

[theangryman]

you never mistaken a woman for a man or vice versa over the phone before?

i guess the “we can always tell” crowd does tend to believe themselves psychics…

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[doingitatmybirthdaydinner]

no I think she's saying that men pretending to be women with pcos and deep voices are not women

[theangryman]

you can tell the difference over the phone?

again, some women have deep voices. can you imagine how fucking horrible it would be to reach out for rape counseling and be treated like this?

what if a trans man called? yall believe trans men are women, should Beira’s place serve trans men?

[theangryman]

so are women with PCOS and deep voices not women?

not surprising that amnesty international found some sus sources of funding, Nazis tend to hate gender non conforming women too

[pain--pilled]

bro there’s a difference between a man’s deep voice and a woman with a deep voice you’re diluting the meaning of nazi

[theangryman]

i have a deep voice and a beard and TERFs on here still call me a woman…

also, the fact that Rowling follows several Nazis on Twitter should be kinda concerning right?