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Open your eyes, mom. What do you think has been going on for the past two years? The fights, the weird occurrences. How many times have you washed blood out of my clothes, and you still haven’t figured it out? Well, it stops now!
honestly one of the most evil things is when a character is popularly headcanoned as gay by fans and then creators give them a heterosexual love interest just to put a stop to it because they hate gay people so much they can’t stand to see them identify with characters they love or have any sort of happiness at all
yes this post is about luke skywalker but also ryan from high school musical
You…understand what bisexual is, right?
Or maybe that character was never intended to be gay to begin with and you’re just throwing a tantrum your ship won’t be canon.
And maybe, just maybe, the character was going to get a love interest anyway? Like… imagine assuming creators give characters an opposite sex love interest just to spite you specifically.
what’s worse than OP’s statement is fans thinking thanking they own a creator’s vision and are self righteous enough to bully and harass them because they didn’t fulfill their delusions.
For real though! I’ve said before that shows/movies aren’t seen as a means of self-expression for the ones making it but like some kind of catering service for the audience.
Fans have really gotten horrible to the point of insanity lately. What happened to the good old days where we enjoyed our fanfics and fan theories and could tell them apart from the canon. And when we didnt bully and harass the show creators to fulfill our fantasties
I think there are instances of both, honestly. Fans definitely get entitled sometimes, and get proprietary over their favorite ship or character. But there are absolutely cases where shows just introduce love interests as no homos, and that’s when I think fans have a right to get upset about it.
Let’s go with Sterek in Teen Wolf, a popular example. The show was very aware of the ship’s popularity, and used that as a way to gain attention, viewers, and win polls around the time of the show’s second season. Notably, having the two actors cuddling on a ship (”figuratively and literally”) in a video, asking the fans to help them win a poll, ending by saying “Sterek all the way.” This on top of the showrunner teasing that the ship could become canon if it was popular enough.
Then instead -- either because the showrunner’d never had any intention of making it canon, or because the network changed its mind -- in season three both men were suddenly given female love interests who were extremely similar to the men’s shipped partner. Stiles was introduced to Derek’s long lost sister with the same tragic backstory and an extremely similar personality. The actress admitted she was only brought onto the show to eventually sleep with Stiles... which ended up not happening since she left after half a season to be the lead in her own show. Instead Derek’s long lost cousin was introduced in the second half of the season, yet again with a similar tragic backstory and an attempt at a similar personality and dynamic with Stiles. She went on to sleep with Stiles and become his girlfriend.
Meanwhile, Derek was given a love interest he developed feelings for while being put in identical situations he’d shared with Stiles in earlier seasons, as well as a flashback episode about a past love interest who was basically identical to Stiles –– similar in both appearance and personality –– except for being a girl. It was incredibly clear to most people watching that the writers had decided to take the concept of Sterek that was so popular, and try to transfer it over onto safe, het couples for both of them, instead of just having them be together. A move that obviously didn’t go over well with the fandom.
Sorry about the length of this reply, but I just want to point out that while there are people who take fandom too far, panic!het coupling is absolutely a thing that happens, and you can usually tell because the show tries to emulate the dynamic of the popular LGBT ship with a new, straight character.
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……..but they know this?? I feel like I’m in Season 2 again. Did he reanimate in 2 seconds or something?
Yeah, I squinted when she said that, but I think it was just a poorly written line. I think what she meant was that his injuries weren’t bad enough to kill him, so he shouldn’t have died and turned. He only died from the infection caused by the Walker blood in his wound. So she wasn’t surprised that he turned without being bitten; she was surprised that he died (and turned) when he wasn’t badly injured.
An actually decent episode????!!
I’m so... I can hardly even.... I just..
Do you think it is wrong (anti-revolutionary, or immoral) for a bi woman, who has the choice to love other women, to love men? If a woman could choose to only prioritize other women, why wouldn't she? I'm not talking about situations when a woman is coerced to be with a man. Some bi women actually love individual men. Should they?
It is not wrong, anti-revolutionary, or immoral for individual bi women to pursue happy and healthy relationships with people regardless of their gender. The burden of being constantly Radical ™ or Revolutionary ™ is unrealistic and, frankly, dehumanizing. Prioritizing women as a woman can take many different forms, obviously including romantic and sexual but not merely romantic or sexual. If a bi woman loves a man individually, she is not less bi for it or immoral or impure. Certainly it’s worth examining why some bi women may consistently date men - because of compulsory heterosexuality and other societal pressures - but scrutinizing the interpersonal choices bi women make is not revolutionary in the slightest. There are multiple circumstances surrounding all women, including bi women, and their “feminist” card or, if they’re LGBT, they’re “LGBT” card, should not be “revoked” on the basis of genuine human connections.
You should examine why you’re asking this question specifically about bi women. Hint: it’s because you don’t view bi women as actual human beings capable of manifesting complex desires, and rather you view them as failed heterosexuals or failed sapphic women who are tied to men no matter what they say or do. The fact that you and other biphobes only discuss bi women in this context but never straight women in this context reveals that bi women are always reduced to men and thus stripped of their autonomy. In that way, biphobic rhetoric is misogynistic, and people who perpetrate it (like you) are hypocritical and cruel.
Mark Hamill speaking to fans at Oxford Union.
Y’all, I ain’t never seen a whole Star Wars film, but Mark Hamill? Is an actual Fucking Saint™️.
Venting Dead: 8x11 Reaction
So... I didn’t actually loathe this episode. Or–– let’s be fair. I didn’t loathe about the first 5/6ths of this episode. My bar’s low at this point, so “not loathing” is a pretty high praise for this season, and for a while there I was actually enjoying it. I was feeling a little bit invested in these characters. And I think the reason was that it actually felt like a break from the endless, relentless slog of pure misery that the show’s been plagued with for more than a season and a half now.
And then, of course, it wasn’t.
Now look, I’m not going to argue that the apocalypse should be a happy place. I’m not saying TWD shouldn’t be dark overall, shouldn’t be frightening and tug at your heartstrings and leave you in ruins. But it also shouldn’t be one endless stretch of depressing to the point where it just leaves you vaguely irritated, bored, and drained more than genuinely upset, and that’s what it becomes if we don’t see some sparks of hope littered through the misery. Shows need emotional contrast. There needs to be an occasional respite. Viewers need a reason to care.
And this felt like, finally, we might be getting that. That finally, through faith or luck or just pure probability at this point, something might actually go right. Not perfect –– the doc still got injured, and that makes sense. They had to fight their way there and Gabriel might still go blind. But at this point, after how long the characters and the viewers have been repeatedly beaten down, it would have been not only nice but better, story-wise, to have a moment where something good happens. Re-engage the viewers. Give them a reason to hope again. Give your story more depth by mixing up the emotional elements a little. Everyone knows that an action movie can’t be pure action or people’s eyes glaze over. We need to be invested in the characters. A drama needs a dash of humor here and there, and a tragedy... a tragedy needs hope.
The episode could have given us that. It could have been unique in the course of a dreary season. It could have offered a spark of brightness when we all needed it, when we’re all wounded from recent losses. Just give a couple of minor characters a bit of luck, and give the viewers a reason to hope again.
But no. The show did the depressing thing. The predictable thing. The boring thing. And you can argue that it’s more realistic, but I’d argue that even in dark circumstances, good things do happen occasionally, and the show’s less realistic for never giving us that. More than that, it’s less engaging. We all know things are going to suck, people are going to be sad, and if there are two doctors then one of them’s gonna die. We live with a show, now, where people live or die by plot armor, where attempts to be shocking are too expected to be more than frustrating.
I was enjoying the episode because I hoped it was going to be something different, for once. Something interesting. But they couldn’t resist the urge to try and pull heartstrings, and forgot that hearts need a chance to mend before pulling them again will pay off.
I was going to talk about other elements of the episode. The Tara-Dwight story, the swamp. But that death, and dragging Gabriel right back where he started, and ending the episode on the same dreary-dull emotional note every other episode in recent memory has ended in pretty much drowned out my interest in the rest of it.
Tara to Dwight: You don’t get to switch sides and think it’s okay.
Me, yelling at my screen: THAT’S ACTUALLY WHAT YOU FUCKING DID WITH THE GOVERNOR!!!
Doctors are seriously the new “black people” on TWD. New one comes in, you know the last one’s about to be knocked off.
Identity theft is not a joke, Jim!
Enid really annoyed me a little bit this episode, honestly.
First she kills the leader of Oceanside and isn’t even sorry about it. Like dang, she could have at least apologized and explained what happened because Aaron WASN’T in immediate danger if the Oceanside leader was TALKING to him and walking slowly when Enid shot her without thinking (and did the leader even have a gun? didn’t Rick and them take all the guns when they were there?).
Then, after being captured by the Oceanside women instead of shutting up and letting Aaron do the talking (because going out and meeting new people and talking to them is his thing), she just keeps running her mouth about how killing her and Aaron won’t change anything and blah blah blah.
Then has the nerve to preach to them about knowing the difference between enemies and friends and not trying to kill everyone. Then after PROVING why the Oceanside women are correct in wanting to be left alone and keeping everyone away, whines to Aaron that Oceanside won’t help them.
Natania was going to kill Aaron when Enid (impulsively) shot her- see above.
TBH she was in shock the whole time so was running off her mouth.
Natania was approaching Aaron slowly while telling him that he shouldn’t be there. Aaron has experience in dealing with hostile people. Enid KNEW they were in the Oceanside territory and she knew their objective was negotiation, it was stupid of her to be impulsive like that, and even more stupid to then act like she didn’t care and then keep running her mouth and shift blame.
100% agreed on this. They knew heading out that Oceanside wouldn’t be happy to see them. They should have been more than prepared for a little (well-earned) aggression. Instead she jumps straight to murder, proving exactly why Natania didn’t want them there, and then spent the episode acting like she was totally in the right, and like Oceanside owed them something.
Alexandria has done nothing to earn Oceanside’s trust. They seem to be resting solely on the fact that they’re not the Saviors, which isn’t close to good enough when they come in acting exactly like the Saviors.
Venting Dead: 8x10 Reaction
I used to love this show so much. If I hadn’t, I wouldn’t be feeling nearly this amount of sheer rage about the direction the show’s decided to go now. From the beyond stupid and illogical decisions to the sheer message it’s trying to deliver, nothing about this show is working anymore... to an extent that I can’t understand how these scripts even managed to make it out of the writers’ room, much less through filming, editing, and onto my screen.
Spoilers ahead.
The Garbage People
First off, the positive: thank whatever lingering revenants of Walking Dead gods exist that the Garbage People are finally dead. Well, most of them, anyway. In a seeming convenience of epic proportions, the Garbage Leader managed to survive the slaughter. (Are we supposed to believe Simon left her alive to seek revenge another day on purpose..? Are we supposed to believe that, even if he had decided to do that, Jadis had just stood by during the firefight doing nothing, not trying to save her people? ...Well, that one I can actually believe; her one proven characteristic beyond completely unwarranted self-confidence and an inability to form basic word groupings was her complete and utter selfishness. Why would she fight back during the slaughter, if a gun wasn’t aimed at her?)
So, plus side: the Garbage People are (mostly) gone, plus the shock of seeing them all die seemed to jolt the part of her brain that remembered how sentences work back into motion.
And I guess we were supposed to feel bad for her at the end there, when she finally showed some hint of human emotion, grinding up the Walker remnants of her people, but I was pretty unaffected. I’m not going to blame the actress for this one; she worked with what she was given, and did it well. In another situation, I would have been moved. These people have been absolute scum since they first appeared on the show, stealing everything they had, betraying anyone who came in contact with them. Repeatedly.
And yet Rick was obsessed with befriending them to the point of utter stupidity. Seriously, they’d proven untrustworthy so they were a high-level risk. They’d also shown absolutely no sign of strengths that would help Rick defeat Negan. Beyond, I guess, being extra bodies. Their entire motto was that they “take, don’t bother,” meaning that they scavenge when other people aren’t looking. If Rick had needed them for food runs, or to steal weapons from the Saviors maybe, then that would have at least made some sort of sense. But for some reason, Gimple & co introduced us to these scavenger characters with no apparent fighting experience and immediately made Rick obsessed with the idea of having them as fellow soldiers, no matter what. They demand guns –– when they, again, haven’t proven themselves and shouldn’t be in a position to demand anything. But ok, fine, Rick was desperate for extra bodies. But then they betrayed Alexandria in an absolutely devastating way. So does Rick write them off? Does he want revenge? Nope, he goes back to them with no plan beyond “pretty please lets be friends now,” gets himself locked up, and then abandoned and betrayed AGAIN.
After that, you’d think Rick would start to catch on. But nope, the start of this episode has Rick and Michonne heading back to beg these useless, treacherous people for help A THIRD TIME. What is Rick’s obsession with these people? What is he seeing in them that I’m not?
Of course, Rick’s not seeing anything beyond terrible writing pulling his strings, because while he was more than willing to let bygones be bygones when he headed back to the trash heap, when he saw Jadis and she actually did ask to be allies, he bitterly turned away and left her to die. He made the entire journey there in the hopes of finding an ally, found one, then scoffed and wasted a bullet trying to run her off. I guess you can argue that Rick’s only interest in the Garbage society had been their numbers, and now that those numbers were gone he’d finally recognized that siding with her wasn’t worth the risk, but it just ended up seeming like a waste of screen time, and doubled up on making Rick seem stupid and unlikable all at once.
Last Garbage thoughts:
The explanation for their absurd Kevin from the Office-style communication is really just that... she wanted to separate her group from the rest of society? I guess... where people know how to talk?
Why the hell was Jadis trapped in those garbage piles, with that door being the only way out? It was a garbage heap, couldn’t she just... climb to the top of the garbage and down the other side? Am I missing something there? ...Maybe there’s a wall taller than all the garbage that I just haven’t noticed? And am I supposed to believe that supposedly expert sneakers like the Garbage People wouldn’t have a ton of secret ways out of their compounding in any case?
I actually thought they were about to touch on something interesting for a second there, with the mention of a helipad. I guess something could still come of that in the future, since it does seem to tie in to that helicopter Rick saw at some point and never mentioned again, but just the image of any of the Garbage people flying helicopters is ridiculous enough that I’m not sure I wouldn’t just outright laugh at the payoff, if it comes.
Alright though, that’s enough on them. Moving on.
Michonne
I’m not going to rag too much on Michonne’s grief-stricken attempt to save the burning gazebo. She was grief-stricken, I get that. But I do think it was a pretty missed opportunity that they showed the handprints Carl had made with Judith –– one of the last things Carl had done in his life and that might actually have emotional significance to the family and Judith as she gets older –– and then have her express her grief by trying to save a random gazebo they’d never see again anyway. Trying to pull up a plank from the porch might have been a hopeless move, but seeing her try to pry that up while the Walkers swarmed closer… refusing to abandon this small piece of Carl until it was almost too late… that would have made a much bigger emotional impact to me and had just been set up at the scene’s start. It was a huge miss, in my opinion.
And now onto Negan.
Negan
If you subscribe to the Church of Negan you’re not going to agree with this part, but that entire final speech was... infuriating. One of the clumsiest rewrites of history and attempts to redeem an unredeemable character I’ve ever seen, and I hate that the show seems to be doing it so earnestly.
Here’s the thing. Negan might actually think he’s a good guy. He might think he’s on the right side of history here. That’s fine, that’s good. Villains are the heroes of their own story and all that, and that kind of conviction even in irredeemable people is what makes for interesting villains. But that’s not what’s happening here. The show’s framing, the fact that they have Rick stunned into silence by Negan’s off-base insights, the fact that he gets the last word in the episode, as though the writers are leaving us all to think “that’s a good point, just go think about that,” suggests to me that this isn’t a case of a villain seeing himself as a hero. This is the show trying to suggest to us that despite all Negan’s done, all we’ve seen him and his people do, he’s actually had the best interests of these communities at heart the whole time, and they could well have been irrational for choosing to fight back.
And that’s just not true.
Do we remember when the Saviors first visited Alexandria? The way they treated the community? The impossible demands they made? Beating the crap out of Aaron for absolutely no reason? The way they stole all their beds and burned them as a completely pointless fuck you to our protagonists? Negan’s goal was never to make the communities comfortable, happy, or feel safe. It’s never been peace. He was there to terrorize them into submission. He was there to make himself and a few trusted lieutenants rich off the backs of literally everyone else they encountered.
His has always been a reign of terror.
Have we forgotten his wives? The women who loathe and dream of killing him, who he coerced into marriage and rapes under threat of misery or death to themselves or their loved ones? But nah, he’s a swell guy actually. He’s a little tough, but he just wants the best for everyone.
I don’t understand this eleventh hour attempt to redeem Negan. I don’t read the comics... and I honestly don’t care. If he was redeemed there in an arc that makes sense, that’s great. Good job, comics. But that’s not happening here. I don’t buy it, and the show’s attempts toward it are clumsy and hugely transparent. And this idea that Negan “might have had a point” that the show’s trying to feed us with that ending...... no.
You know what, maybe he’d have had an argument if Carl had died in a fight with the Saviors. “Well Rick -- you had to try and fight back and now you’ve lost your son. He might’ve still been alive if you’d just listened, but you taught him to rebel and he paid the price.” That would’ve been a twisted argument, but it would have been an argument, at least. But the idea that Carl’s death by Walkers –– his totally unrelated death by Walkers because he decided to go out on his own time and act careless –– is in any way on Rick is beyond absurd. Carl wasn’t on a leash, he would have gone out either way. It’s got nothing to do with the war and Negan –– and the show –– should not try to argue that it does.
Alright, I was going to end my rant there, but I still need to jump over to the absolute stupidity of that Oceanside arc for a second.
Because.
What the hell.
Oceanside
Ok, Oceanside has never been a successful story device in my opinion. They’ve always brought out the sociopathic side of our heroes and continue to do so here: Enid taking no responsibility for taking a kill shot when she absolutely didn’t need to, and going on to tell the girl whose grandmother she’d just murdered that they should basically be grateful for everything Rick’s group has done for them. Which is… nothing. Absolutely nothing. They terrorized them, stole their guns (leaving them defenseless against Walkers and future attacks) and then killed their former leader. That’s all the Alexandrians are to these people, but for reasons beyond my understanding Oceanside continues to treat them the way Rick treats the Garbage People, and us viewers are somehow supposed to think that’s a good thing. Just imagine the Alexandrians from their perspective. They’re basically the Saviors. And if that’s the point the show is trying to make they’re utterly failing at expressing it, because Cyndie continually treats them as though her own group is in the wrong for just… wanting to stay safe and survive. “Stop attacking outsiders,” really? That’s the message they’re supposed to be getting from this? They left Tara alive and she betrayed them, the Alexandrians stole their weapons without a care for their safety, and then the third time they show up out of thin air, it’s to kill someone’s grandma.
Ok, that’s it. That’s all for this one. Rant over. I’ve spent way too much energy raging about this episode of what’s increasingly becoming “a show I used to love.”
Seriously, did Carl ever even fucking meet Jerry?
I think I’m officially done with The Walking Dead
...And that breaks my heart because I loved this show so deeply for so long. But I feel like if you don’t worship Negan and think he’s the highlight of the universe, there’s just no point to continuing.
I can’t believe they hijacked Carl’s death by turning it into Negan propaganda. I knew that was coming in some form but I seriously still can’t believe it. Those last few seconds absolutely ruined the episode and I’m so sorry that’s going to be Carl’s legacy.
Ok but... Star Trek, “The Enemy Within”
Why couldn’t they just beam a hundred blankets down onto the planet? So they couldn’t send down heaters or technology because they’d double and destabilize, but if they sent down blankets and they doubled, wouldn’t the party just end up with... double the blankets? They could make a blanket fort. Or a blanket mountain over themselves. Be totally toasty ‘til morning.
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This Man Did Something That’s Already Expected Of Women But He Gets Extra Praise Cause He’s A Man
No. A lot of women don’t go to cosmetology classes to learn how to do hair, they have the experience from growing up-their mom doing their hair, Then experimenting which what they can do themselves. This guy probably had short hair his entire life with no clue on what to do. He didn’t just look up how to do a ponytail, he paid for actual classes so that he could do his little daughters hair in cool and creative ways so that SHE gets the learning experience and learns how to do it her own and then can go to school with fabulous. This is A+ daddy right here, he went above and beyond because he knows that he lack in certain areas where a mom would pick this up. Please don’t destroy nice things that men do simply because they are men and you want to hate them.
Please don’t destroy nice things that men do simply because they are men and you want to hate them.
Shots fired.