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The marauders fandom come up with 5 new ways a week to absolutely butcher Sirius Blacks character
"regulus can't produce a patronus because he doesnt have happy memories" âââ
"regulus can't produce a patronus because he doesn't have the skillset" âď¸âď¸âď¸
Becoming more and more liberal with that block button. If I see a word of Jegulus or twink Sirius or Death Eater sympathizers or pro-Snape people or Alpha Remus lovers on my screen it starts to look reeeeaaally shinyâŚ
if you have to assassinate sirius' character and give his canon personality to regulus in order for you to be a regulus fan ... i dont think youre a regulus fan
âRegulus is better than Siriusâ
No
Goodnight to everybody except people who think Regulus is better than Sirius (he literally made it harder to destroy Voldemort in the end)
Sirius is taller than Remus point blank period
I want to thank Snirius artists because theyâre the only ones who draw Sirius without giving him a design that makes me cringe so hard I feel like throwing up my liver out the window.
Let Sirius Black be 1.90 meters tall, masculine, rough, sadistic, and a bit of a bastard with a terrible sense of humor who doesnât care about hurting anyone except James. And let Lupin be a soft boy who looks like a malnourished Dickensian kid, introverted and terrified of disagreeing with people in case they reject him.
Please, just let characters be who they are, what you all do with them in this fandom should be illegal.
Sirius Black was a bitch but not the whiny twink kind who pines over a werewolf while trying on crop tops in the mirror and looking like a thirteen-year-old girl. Heâs the kind of bitch who makes the most brutally inappropriate, cutting comments with zero filter, and if that doesnât work, heâll slap you across the face with a massive hand because heâs basically a nearly two-meter-tall guy with hands to match. Put some respect on him, he was an asshole, and he doesnât deserve to be turned into a whiny schoolgirl.
People who say that Remus Lupin was the Casanova of Hogwarts? The responsible, taciturn, insecure Remus Lupin with such fragile self-esteem that he didnât even dare stand up to his friends out of fear of rejection? That Lupin?
No, guys, there was a Casanova, and it was Sirius Black. He was nearly two meters tall, ridiculously handsome, lounged back on two legs of his chair in that cocky way, drew attention everywhere he went and girls were literally sighing over him like they were enchanted. Please stop making things up and ruining the characters, stop stripping them of their personalities and replacing them with others. Itâs fucking stupid, annoying, and honestly disrespectful.
I feel like Siriusâs fans donât understand him.
Whenever I see discussions about Draco being raised to be a blood purist and support Voldemort, people always go âSirius!â. Even though Sirius was also a terrible bully with prejudices.
Furthermore Sirius used âBeing taught to speak that wayâ as a explanation fot his brother âsoft enoughâ
The most ironic thing about all of this is that the things Draco does during his adolescence are childâs play compared to what Snape used to do. Because yeah, I mean, Draco says a lot of things, but everything he does, he does verbally. And heâs not even that aggressive. Heâs basically a clown going around making the dumbest comments imaginable. Youâd have to be an idiot for those comments to actually affect youâseriously, youâd have to be really stupid to be bothered by Draco Malfoyâs remarksâwhen Sirius, on the other hand, was actively mistreating people and even committed attempted manslaughter. I mean, Sirius was a much more violent and much more sadistic person than Draco. Draco is a mummyâs boy. Heâs a spoiled mummyâs boy with an inflated ego, full stop, but heâs ultimately harmless. Teenage Sirius Black, though? He was genuinely scary.
What bothers me sometimes about Sirius fans isnât that they excuse everything he doesâI can kind of understand why they do thatâbut rather how little they actually understand the character. Theyâll say, âNo, Sirius wasnât classist,â âNo, Sirius wasnât elitist,â âHe had a heart of gold.â And sure, Sirius had a heart of gold, but it was extremely selective, reserved for a very specific group of people. And by that group, I mean James, Lily because she was Jamesâs girlfriend, and Harry because he was Jamesâs son. To me, Sirius is literally like a dog. Not just because his Animagus is a dog, I mean heâs literally like one. He has a master to whom heâs incredibly loyal, and heâll bare his teeth and bite for that person and for that personâs âpackââtheir familyâwhom he protects and adores by extension. But outside of that? He couldnât care less. Like, at all.
And I donât even necessarily see that as a bad thing. People donât have to care about everyone, and not caring about everyone doesnât automatically make you a bad person. But I do think people try to sanctify him or frame him as some kind of revolutionary rebel without a cause, which he really wasnât. He was always a privileged kid, with plenty of financial support and a strong support network, even after leaving home. He didnât actually need his biological family to survive, because he had money and he had a replacement family.
I donât know, it feels like he gets credit for things he didnât really earn. Sure, itâs admirable that, given the environment he grew up in, he was able to reject his familyâs ideology and think differently. Thatâs good, obviously. But if you then go on to mistreat people who are beneath you, it loses all merit. Rejecting your familyâs ideals doesnât achieve anything if youâre still reproducing the same forms of violence you were taught. That doesnât help the world, it doesnât help society, it doesnât help anyone.
Deconstruction isnât just about leaving that environment. Itâs about being self-aware of the legacy you carry from being raised in it, acknowledging it, and actively dismantling it. Otherwise, nothing really changes. Youâre still out there treating a house-elf like shit, when the only thing that âcreatureâ has done is be loyal to its masters. And youâre a wizard, for Godâs sake, someone who actually has rights, unlike house-elves, who donât even have basic rights.
Itâs like the stereotypical rich progressive kid who treats a right-wing worker like crap. Youâre a piece of shit if you do that, because you have no right to mistreat a working-class person. That argument can happen between a right-wing worker and a left-wing worker, but not between a right-wing worker and some progressive aristocrat. Itâs like a progressive white person arguing with a conservative Black person and lecturing them. Itâs just not a good look. Itâs not your place to be giving those lessons.
This is kinda random (ill try not to make it too long), im a marauders fan, but i dont hate snape. I think they're really complex characters (talking about both categories), because they both evolved and joined the "good" side eventually. The whole book is quite morally grey, now that i think about it, cause as a kid, i used to separate everything in the good guys and bad guys. Also quick point on Regulus, he was a complex character as well, i enjoy reading headcanon/fanon versions of him, and jegulus is a pretty nice ship, i like their dynamic. Again, sorry for a long ask, just wanted to put this out there, maybe get your opinion?
What gets called a "complex character" often seems absurdly broad to me, especially in a children's and young adult series where most of the cast isn't particularly complex to begin with. Not when you compare them to characters from adult literature, characters who do genuinely morally questionable things, whose good actions require them to commit terrible ones to achieve worthwhile outcomes, or whose ethical decisions are genuinely difficult and messy.
In Harry Potter, Snape is considered one of the most complex characters in the series. But if you took Severus out of that universe and dropped him into almost any adult piece of fiction, the man would practically be a hero. He wouldn't even fit the archetype of an antihero. Hell, even if you put him into a complete meme of a universe like Euphoria, he'd still be a better person than 80% of the cast, and we're talking about a very mainstream series here.
So where exactly is this supposed complexity? That he made terrible decisions as an abused teenager and later regretted them? His "sins" don't even come close to what supposedly morally good characters in universes like A Song of Ice and Fire have done. Arya Stark alone has committed acts that are far more ethically and morally questionable than anything Snape ever did. It's like the standard people use to measure complexity and moral ambiguity is unbelievably childish. If people consider Snape a bad guy imagine if they read, idk, the fucking Fahrenheit 451 and they have to face the fucking main character that is Montag, who basically is AN ACTIVE PART OF THE FASCIST POLICE in his world and his fucking whole arc is understand why he's a bad guy and basically becoming a part of the resistance. It genuinely feels as though the most "adult" thing many people in this fandom have ever consumed is Stranger Things, and beyond cartoons aimed at seven-year-olds and Disney movies, they've never engaged with anything else.
That said, I think every character can become interesting if you actually stick to the canon.
If you portray James Potter as the cynical, classist hypocrite he was âa boy who performed progressivism while harbouring deeply reactionary attitudes and enormous class-based cognitive dissonanceâ then he's interesting, because contradiction is interesting. But if you try to sell me the idea that James was simply a hero, sunshine incarnate, a fun-loving boy with a heart of gold, then what a load of rubbish. Not just because it's demonstrably false, but because what is even interesting about a character like that? It's unbearably dull.
Sirius is fascinating precisely because he is the king of cognitive dissonance. He's riddled with contradictions. The ideology he claims to believe in isn't reflected in his actions whatsoever, and his rejection of his family is ultimately a rejection of himself, because he ends up reproducing many of their attitudes while simply placing them on the "right" side of the conflict. He's still prejudiced, still violent, still lacking in empathy in many of the same ways as his relatives, and that's incredibly compelling.
Now, if your version of Sirius is a sad little twink whose entire problem is that his mother hates him because he's gay, and instead of giving him a genuinely complex relationship with her âone rooted in power dynamics, rebellion against authority, mutual attempts at controlâ you reduce everything to "his mother was evil and he cried in his room because she wouldn't let him wear makeup," then what an utterly dreadful character. Not only because that version bears no resemblance whatsoever to the actual Sirius, but because it's painfully boring. The Twink Sirius⢠whose main source of angst is wanting to sleep with a werewolf while his homophobic mother disapproves isn't just an overused clichĂŠ; it's devoid of depth. There's no real conflict there, only a stereotype that's been recycled to death.
The same goes for the version of Remus who gets turned into some hyper-confident ladies' man alpha male who's secretly misunderstood by everyone. Not only does it make no sense, but it's infinitely less interesting than the actual Remus: a man who knew perfectly well what was right and wrong, yet lacked the courage to confront his friends because he was terrified of rejection. He chose complicity in violence and injustice because preserving his own place within the group mattered more than doing the right thing. That's what makes him interesting. Not the possibility that he might have been gay. Being gay isn't a personality trait. Sorry, but it simply isn't.
And Regulus? Love, I genuinely don't understand what people find so complex about Regulus.
Regulus is essentially a mirror image of Draco. He was always aligned with his family's values; nobody forced him to be the way he was. He took pride in who he was and what he represented. His motivations for joining the Death Eaters stemmed from the importance he placed on family and blood purity. Then one day he discovered that his idol didn't actually care about blood purity at all, only about immortality and power, and worse still, believed himself entitled to take what belonged to Regulus. So Regulus rebelled, exactly as an aristocrat would.
But instead of exploring that, people seem obsessed with headcanons about him being another helpless twinkâbecause apparently both Black brothers have collectively been reduced to fragile little sad boysâwho needs to be rescued by some tanned, bespectacled stud straight out of a Televisa telenovela. What can I say? I find it incredibly tedious.
The truth is that this fandom often feels painfully unimaginative. There's such a limited understanding of complexity, nuance, literary taste, character construction, competent writingâbecause, frankly, the quality of most fanfiction is abysmalâdialogue, all of it. Everything gets flattened until a character's entire personality revolves around being gay and having parents who don't understand them.
These were teenagers growing up in the 1970s on the brink of a literal war. I think they probably had bigger things occupying their minds. More importantly, I think that if characters are going to be interesting, their personalities and struggles need to emerge from multiple intersecting influences. Human beings are complicated. Their conflicts don't exist in a vacuum.
And yet this fandom grants these characters absolutely none of that complexity. A cactus has more personality than some of these headcanons. A rock is more interesting than reading yet another "Sirius crying because his mother won't let him wear eyeliner" scenario.
At a certain point, it genuinely feels as though people are writing for an audience that either has no interest in complexity whatsoever or simply lacks the ability to engage with anything beyond the most basic, surface-level characterisation imaginable.
How tall do you picture Sirius to be?
What are your height headcanons in general?
Itâs very popular in the fandom now to make Sirius small (usually in a Wolfstar context) but i remember from earlier fandom days, that Sirius was most often depicted as the tallest of the group (even by Wolfstar shippers).
Now the only times I see Sirius being portrayed as tall, itâs by fans who are more or less anti-wolfstar, like Prongsfoot shippers.
I think the whole height difference wolfstar thing, with a small, feminine, Bottom Sirius and tall, masculine Top Remus reeks of misogyny and Heteronormativity and i find it incredibly boring.
But I also donât like the feminization of Severus by some Snack Shippers, where Sirius is portrayed as this hypermasculine, tall, buff Top and Severus is the small, weak, feminine Bottom.
It all feels very cookie cutter to me, when the interesting thing about (queer) shipping is finding the unique ways two characters would fit with each other and that doesnât have to involve stereotypical dynamics like top and bottom at all nor does being tall or short have anything to do with a sexual position like top/bottom or a sexual dynamic like dom/sub.
And donât even get me started on JegulusâŚ
as a trans person i actually hate the way some Jegulus or Remus/Regulus shippers portray trans Regulus as this submissive, personality devoid, weak and inferior doll, who only exists to be sexually dominated by a tall, masculine cis man (or men). It feels very misogynistic and transphobic to me, portraying him as âless thanâ in a way that feels inherently linked to his trans-ness/anatomy.
And I donât even hate making Regulus transmasculine (although itâs admittedly incredibly unrealistic and doesnât make sense from the little we do know about the character from the canon, but one could argue thatâs the entire point, making a hp characters trans out of spite) because iâm starved for any popular trans representation but this usually doesnât feel like representation at all and more like fetish content. His Trans-ness is never meaningfully engaged with.
Many trans men prefer to top, many donât like their anatomy being referred to with feminized language, many gay trans men who bottom prefer to bottom the way cis gay men bottom. And Iâve also yet to see a single instance where Regulus had bottom surgery or any other gender affirming care besides (sometimes) top surgery and hrt. (just to be clear, itâs perfectly fine to portray a trans person who doesnât medically transition or hasnât yet, but one must wonder Regulusâ Body and Gender expression is always portrayed like this, with no nuanceâŚ)
I apologize for the long tangent, this got a little away from meâŚ
Well, okay, this is something Iâve already repeated a million times, but if necessary Iâll repeat it again.
Sirius is canonically one of the tallest characters in Harry Potter. Basically, the only characters implied to be taller than Sirius are people like Hagrid, who is a half-giant, meaning characters who are naturally taller than most humans because of what they are.
Sirius is also constantly used as a point of comparison to establish other peopleâs height. Harry repeatedly describes him as very tall. Even his Animagus form is an unusually large dog. Sirius is described in a very masculine way, masculine in a very traditionally hegemonic sense according to what we understand as heteronormative masculinity. In other words, heâs described as a very stereotypically masculine man and as very tall on multiple occasions throughout the series.
In fact, itâs even said that heâs a hand taller than Snape, which basically means around half a head taller. So yes, he is described as very tall. That doesnât mean heâs two metres tall, but he is a very tall person. And heâs someone whose presence is imposing, even after Azkaban, when heâs basically skin and bones and barely eating anything. He still has a huge presence.
Everything people invent beyond that is fanon. The idea that Sirius is 5 feet tall and looks like my 13-year-old nephew instead of a grown man isnât true. People pulled that straight out of their arse. So with that said, Iâve always imagined him as around 190â192 cm (6â3ââ6â4â). I donât see him as 195 cm, but around 190â192. And I see him as the tallest of the Marauders.
After that I imagine James as the next tallest. Then Remus, and then Peter. I think James and Remus are probably fairly similar in height, but I picture James as slightly taller. And thatâs all I have to say about the subject. The whole masculinity/feminisation discussion is something Iâve already talked about endlessly on my blog and Iâm not going to rant about it again, because honestly Iâve repeated it so many times at this point that Iâm a bit bored of it, sorry.
The Sirius being in love with James if he was into dudes is so real - how did Jegulus and Wolfstar become so popular when Prongsfoot was right there?!
The real reason is that shipping is more often a product of what fan culture wants than what the story itself shows (which is fine!) When Wolfstar became a thing, Jily was still the most popular ship for the MWPP era, and so you basically could have everyone's favorite characters double-dating (perfect excuse to cut unpopular Peter out of the dynamic altogether.) It was insanely popular for years and dominated all fanart and fanfic for those two charactersâpeople when the books came out really thought it was canon and there was a lot of drama when Remadora sailed. The dynamic with Sirius and Remus in those fics played with a lot of typical/popular slash tropes (cool guy and bookish hot nerd) of the early 2000s.
Now, people ship what they ship, that's fine. My biggest issue with Wolfstar is that I feel like it led to people in the fandom fundamentally misinterpreting the dynamic of the Marauders as a group. James is clearly the person both of them like and trust the best of their friends, and it's canon that they both distrusted each other enough to each think the other was a spy. There is nothing in the books that would indicate there is anything particular in Lupin and Sirius's relationship (they might have actually been the least close of the four, given what happened.) In the Willow scene there is a classic adolescent boy group pecking order and Lupin is very obviously below James in Sirius's esteem. It's not a friendship of equals and is never portrayed as such. Lupin's inability to check Sirius and James's less savory behavior is a major character defining traitâhe and Peter are both the followers in the group.
For the record, I think you could write Sirius/Remus in a romantic dynamic that would be consistent with their characters in the books, it would just be a hell of a lot more dysfunctional than fandom usually portrays them. Sirius would probably be using Lupin because he can't get James and Lupin would understand that's what's happening but put up with it because he has low self-esteem. He would still be passive-aggressive as hell, though.
Of course, Sirius and James having a romantic relationship gets in the way of the most important canon relationship, that of Harry's parents, which is why I suspect it never got a lot of traction in the fandom.
Jegulus seems to be a product of just moving away from the books/straight ships tbh. Back in my day Jily was a totally sacrosanct ship, nobody shipped either of them with anyone (except Snape with Lily, which actually had a canon basis! I guess Snape/James sort of existed too, but that was pretty fringe.)
Bonus: I even find Sirius and Snape being shipped together more plausible/interesting than Sirius and Lupin, lol. Shout out to the Snack people.