[posi-pan]

So I'm not trying to start anything with anyone I just want to preface this ask with that. But I heard from a friend that apparently the pan flag creator supports all kink at pride. But I'm trying to look for receipts on this and I"m not finding much of anything. What do you think of this situation? I'm a little lost tbh

so every year now around june there’s “discourse” about whether or not there is a place for kink at pride. it’s been a hot topic this month, and jasper, like everyone else, weighed in. they aren’t against kink at pride. people took issue with that.

and for the sake of not going back and forth with anyone about this topic, i’m going to say some stuff and that will be it, because i’ve talked it to death on twitter, i have no interest in doing that on here too. (please note that this is not a rant directed at you, genderfluidlucifer)

so it’s important to know what is actually being referred to when people say kink belongs at pride. we’re (yes, i agree that kink belongs at pride) talking about communities who have always been a part of pride, that have played important roles in queer history.

we are not talking about people fucking in the middle of pride, or sexually harassing or assaulting people, or walking around naked shoving their genitals or the sex toys they’re currently using in people’s faces.

those are the bad faith takes people are assuming we’re supporting. people are genuinely arguing against those things, as if anyone is actually advocating for them. and the exact same thing happened in previous years.

not only does that show how quick people are to assume queer people are sexual predators, but it also shows how little they know about kink and pride history.

the quote retweets i’ve seen jasper get because of this topic range from ridiculous bad faith assumptions to more calls for a new pan flag to personal insults to accusations of pedophilia.

that’s not an appropriate response to an acknowledgement of pride’s history and a lack of desire to kick people out who have been there and have done important work for the community.

and something that is very forgotten in this “discourse” is that there isn’t one singular pride event. there are many, all over the place, and they’re all different. some are family friendly, some are focused around kids/teens, some are alcohol free, some are kink inclusive or focused, some allow nudity/near nudity, some are 18+, some have alcohol, etc. etc. etc.

every pride event is not for everyone. people need to be doing the research to find out what a pride event is like and what it includes to make an informed decision about whether or not they’d be okay to go to it. and if it isn’t, they can then find one they can attend.

instead of thinking every pride event ever should cater to your specific triggers or squicks or ideas of what’s “acceptable in public” or whatever else, and then getting angry and self righteous and queerphobic when they don’t.

it’s also worth noting that a lot of the arguments people are using are hypocritical, such as the claims about not wanting kids to see near nudity or anything sexually suggestive, but having no criticism of beaches or musical festivals or any general pda from non-queer people. it’s interesting how the claims of being sexually perverted are saved only for queer people.

and a lot of the arguments are just recycled homophobia. arguments like, “think of the children” and “i support you, i just don’t want to see it” and “keep it in the bedroom, i don’t need to know about your sex life” sound a little familiar, don’t they?

anyways i think that’s all. basically, people are attacking and harassing and trying to “cancel” jasper again over fucking nothing.

there’s more said and discussed on this topic in the threads and tweets i’ve shared on twitter, if anyone is interested. and this article is always handy: https://www.them.us/story/kink-bdsm-leather-pride

[nibeul]

Probably unpopular opinion: clone x reader insert or OC (always a femm OC) is one of the most fetishising genres of fics/art when it comes to the clones, especially as the majority are overwhelmingly very sexual and will almost always have the clone being overly “dominant”, or will infantilise the clone. I’ve seen this problem explode with Boba Fett now too where he is almost always the commanding “daddy” in fics with femm readers and it’s so nauseating.

ooooh, I've talked about this on my blog before (I don't remember if I hit this directly, I know I definitely answered a couple asks about it after discussing the fetishization of clones) and people did not like that. that was the first time my inbox was absolutely flooded, and I still remember waking up to 20+ asks about all that fun stuff. I won't say I outright hate reader inserts/OC inserts (I've seen it done tastefully maybe once or twice), though I tend to avoid them because I don't. need to dig through all that again, especially not when there's racial trauma to accompany it.

most of this comes from the fetishization of MOC, hence it's a racial issue. you don't see that same treatment with Anakin and Obi Wan (there is some woobification with the latter, but still it's not the same as the clones are treated), and it's made worse by the fact that the clones are literally enslaved by the Republic. There's also this thing where the clones are seen as interchangeable (I saw someone describe them say "they’re all loyal, brave, tough-as-nails soldiers with good hearts and tragic stories" which is a really broad generalization that lumps them all together and erases them of individuality), further enabling people to see them as... well, boy toys.

the only reason your ask would be considered an "unpopular opinion" (I wouldn't really frame fetishization as an opinion since it's dealing with the treatment of MOC here, ngl, it's more so a big issue that absolutely needs to be addressed) is because this fandom is predominantly and overwhelmingly white. Star Wars has always catered to white people, hence the fandom is reflective of that. Additionally, because of the way women in the larger part of the fandom are treated, it's easier for white women (who tend to be the people writing these fics/drawing this art) to pin fandom issues on the guys which allows this fetishization to continue.

With all the reader/oc insert stuff, you have one of two outcomes: 1) the "dominant" man, then 2) the "baby" man. both of these play into racist stereotypes but in two different directions. The first comes from the brown man stereotype where they are seen as aggressive, overprotective, big and scary, yada yada, you get the idea. The second is a stereotype you often see with Asian men, actually (since Māori are an Austronesian group, I think it does apply here, especially with how it's perpetuated by the fandom) where they are viewed as submissive and childlike (which.. is actually a much bigger stereotype for Asians in general, but I'm not gonna get into that right now). Additionally, the white saviorism can pop up here where the clones are viewed as poor souls in need of desperate help and... yeah, you can see why that's not good.

plenty of BIPOC creators—such as myself—have brought up this larger issue buuuuut we are often met with white people who continue to insist that we're reaching and that it's "not racist" (which, btw, if you're white, you have absolutely no say in what is and isn't racist. If BIPOC are saying something is racist, chances are, it's racist). As a result, this issue is drowned out because BIPOC simply don't have the numbers to push it on our own and white people are perfectly happy shutting us down.

[tokenized]

Absolutely, and personally this is also why people going on about clones being "himbos" doesn't really sit right with me. There's a particular combination of the "dominant man" and "baby man" trope that gets applied to Pacific Islanders in media a lot owing to the racist stereotype of indigenous men as burly, stupid and overly hospitable. Temuera Morrison himself has alluded to it in interviews before.

[notsograndadventures]

Instead of telling me what new fad diet/magic yoga/vitamin drink you believe will cure me

Just tell me to my face you think I’m sick cause I’m a bad person

[crazy-little-angel-deactivated2]

Or cause you think I’m not trying hard enough to get better and clearly just want to be sick.

[hazel2468]

“Oh wel have you tried (diet, juice cleanse, meditation, losing weight)- I bet if you did you would get better”

Is just the roundabout way of saying “you are sick because you are doing something wrong and if you just did the right things you would be normal like me”.

And it’s fucked up.

[tokenized]

This gets even more super fucked when the illness in question happens to be cancer, and yet cancer in particular, and late stage cancer moreso than that, gets so much of this that there's a whole godsdamned industry of snake oil health fads targeting people with late stage cancer specifically.

[tokenized]

Hot take but telling women, women-aligned people or anyone you assume to be either that they're creepy for having hobbies or an interest in anything sexy past a certain age isn't ageist but it sure as hell is extremely misogynistic.

Likewise telling people that they don't deserve to speak at all or have any place or right to safety in an absolutely expansive community just on the basis that they're not legal adults is extremely fucking ageist.

I know for a fact that no one at all ever needs to say ageist or misogynistic bullshit to make a point. If you do you're automatically not worth listening to until you own up to and work to fix that.

It's worthwhile to make spaces for both women and women-aligned people and for people who aren't adults to express their feelings and issues safely. The fact that the needs of different marginalized groups may at times conflict doesn't change the fact that they are absolutely crucial and shouldn't be sacrificed, much less derided.

[fujovolent]

How i cope with my animal crossingless -ness

[mewy101]

Hey @mandowords you might like this :))

[ruffboi-mags]

just.  just this tweet, all the time:

[ruffboi-mags]

i swear to god i just had to block like 5 fuckin people just now for reblogging this post but tagging it “q slur”

if you don’t wanna say the word queer on your blog? Don’t reblog posts that use it.  MY IDENTITY IS NOT A GODDAMN FUCKING SLUR.

[ruffboi-mags]

#imagine ‘’i identify as f-g’’

I mean, there are gay guys who identify as fags and lesbians who identify as dykes, I am one of them, fuck you and your goddamn respectability bullshit or whatever the hell this is.

[nichknack]

Usually when people tag something as Q-slur it’s because someone following them asked them to. There are still some people out there who are triggered by the term.

[ruffboi-mags]

Then either the person posting should not reblog shit with the word queer or the person following should just goddamn block the word queer.

My identity. Is not. A slur. Motherfucker.

[brndnslvra]

this is mad funny lmaooo

[gurl-blunt]

Not with that attitude you can’t

[prismatic-bell]

Listen, this might sound funny at first, but consider:

Without enough lube (natural or artificial), you WILL end up chafed. It hurts, it burns, and it can cause infection.

Even with enough lube, mucking about in your naughty bits too much–you know, the kind of thing you have to do for several hours a day if you’re a cam girl–can cause yeast infections and UTIs. UTIs can cause scarring that can cause intercourse (and masturbation) to become painful.

The kind of extreme, prolonged sexual intercourse that porn is known for can cause both rectal and vaginal prolapse, which is when your rectum or vagina literally falls out of your body due to being put under too much stress. Also, um. I’m just saying, doing the same motion with your wrists over and over without breaks, the way you’d have to do with a dildo, can cause carpal tunnel syndrome. There’s a similar condition called tennis elbow that can also occur. These women are going to suffer work-related injuries because of this. Some of those injuries will require surgery. And while sex-related prolapse is pretty rare, it does have a higher incidence among sex workers, and higher still among overworked sex workers.

So no, this cam girl is absolutely right. She cannot safely and effectively do her job for hours a day, every day, and the injury she suffers as a result could impair her ability to enjoy sex or, possibly, even kill her. What needs to be happening right now is that cam girls and other sex workers need to have unemployment and/or some kind of stimulus funds available to them, just like people in any other job, so they can work safely without worrying about going hungry.

DESTIGMATIZE SEX WORK. SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SEX WORKERS AND THE RIGHTS THEY SHOULD HAVE.

[momxnts-silxncx]

you can get vaginal prolapse???? Why did no one ever teach me anything about my body im

[prismatic-bell]

Yep. It’s one of the reasons the Quiverfull movement is so dangerous. Women are literally encouraged to give birth until their reproductive organs can’t take it anymore.

[dovesndecay]

This is where we remind our local sex workers that they should (in the US) join the IWW under Department 600: Human Services, Industrial Union #690. (That number is not a joke, for the record.)

It won’t guarantee any immediate changes of the way you’re treated, but you’ll have more support and more people to connect with to help improve things!

[youknowwhoiam3000]

I will reblog this just cause this is some serious info

[capricorn-0mnikorn]

Sex workers are workers.

ALL workers deserve fair wages, safe working conditions, and time for rest.

Period.

[haruspis-deactivated20220412]

MASTER CHIEF SAID TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

[haruspis-deactivated20220412]

For those requesting a transcript:

“How’re you doing? This is Steve Downes, the voice of Master Chief - Spartan-117.

You know, a Spartan’s job is to fight for the rights of all humanity. So, with that in mind, my friend Ike asked me to pass this along: trans rights are human rights.

Master Chief out.”

[gatheringbones]

“When you live with very old, still-too-hot-to-touch anger, it fucks with you by making you feel rotten inside. By rotten, I mean decayed. I mean foul. I mean ruined. So much anger over so long a period makes you believe that somewhere along the way, you got broken and now you don’t work anymore. It’s a powerful emotion that endures, it can seem like a part of you. But it’s not. It’s a feeling, just like surprise. It’s neurons in your brain and neurotransmitters in your blood. A kickboxing class is good for you, mechanically. Psychologically, what helped me was to not allow rage to be blind and anonymous, but to know its source. And then get on with it. Because tracing an emotion to its root cause doesn’t mean you then go and mentally move back into the past and live with it. Also, you have to try to be nice enough for somebody to like you enough to be willing to rub your back. Pissed-off people need back rubs and they also need gym memberships.”

— augusten burroughs

[tiktoksthataregood-ish]

[nibeul]

I don’t really talk about LGBTQ+ discourse/whatever because of how I—and other BIPOC—have been treated by the community, but you know it really sucks that white, gay, cis men have become the face of the LGBTQ+ movement. Like when people think of a gay person, they immediately think a white person because that’s just what they associate the movement with. I am so disconnected from my identity because of it, actually, and it’s a very large part of the reason as to why I don’t associate myself with LGBTQ+ spaces anymore. I’m not viewed as gay or trans enough. I will never forgive y’all for bashing my feminine and masculine traits that came with my appearance due to my mixed heritage, I will never forgive y’all for making me ashamed of my features and telling me I didn’t fit the bill.

y’all straight up forget that it was BIPOC people backing this movement, specifically black trans women/nonbinaries. Marsha P. Johnson? Sylvia Rivera, Miss Major Griffin-Gracy, they were all throwing the first punches (and bricks) and y’all love to forget that. people outright refuse to fight for trans people of color when they are the literal backbone. BIPOC have been so excluded at this point that we literally have our own separate pride in some places (and this doesn’t even get into the issue of letting those cops back in :/). 

not only that, but pride has gotten selfish at this point. first off, it’s based around big corporations which y’all are more than happy to support if it means you get your stupid fucking merch, but millennial grown ass adults insist on bringing their kinks to events when there are 18+ places you can do that instead. I’d love to take my little brother and his friends to a Pride Event where we can celebrate ourselves but I don’t because they literally aren’t safe spaces for minors. I know plenty of families who want to participate in gatherings like this but they cannot because these are not family friendly spaces. y’all are too fucking busy walking around in a jock strap or with a gag on because y’all are so FUCKING conceited and don’t realize that there are kids who deserve to participate too. 

pride is supposed to be a celebration of who we are, and people of all ages and races should be able to participate in that, but yt gay men have literally made it about themselves. and no, not all of y’all, but the amount of yt cis gay men who have argued that “oh, kinks have always been a part of pride!” and that they “paved the way for the younger generations”? Shut the fuck up. y’all are so damn annoying and ignorant. fuck you and your western views of what’s ok, fuck you and your whitewashed events. learn your fucking history. 

[tokenized]

These are all great points, but there's some irony in the fact that you (rightly) named as the backbone of the community three sex workers who lobbied for their right to work safely, while also talking against sex and body positivity at an event that's supposed to be a protest against violence which targeted them most specifically of all because they were trans women of color who did sex work.

It's certainly true that explaining these types of subjects to children is awkward, but imo it's better to deal with that awkwardness than to erase an entire part of our community's history and do those big corporations' work for them.

[utopians]

"sex scenes have no narrative purpose" is such a funny take on so many levels. people will really believe that the whole human experience is valuable to portray artistically except sex, which of course has never held emotional weight or significance for anybody

[utopians]

"what's the purpose of sex scenes in media??" well you see sometimes people have sex. sometimes it can be important even

[robogirldick]

yeah ok but i dont wanna watch straight sex scene number 1231234837582 in the middle of some movie thats clearly not fucking high art or anything, like please, tell me how the sex scene made jason X a deeper movie ill wait

[utopians]

you genuinely think that "the sex scene in Jason X, the movie about jason from Friday the 13th killing people in space, is bad" is a rebuttal to this point? like genuinely? genuinely? like you think that's the kind of sex scene I was talking about in the original post? you think when I'm talking about the artistic merit of sex scenes in movies you think I'm talking about the bit with the dominatrix in Jason X (2001) dir. James Isaac, the movie where Jason from Friday the 13th gets put in cryosleep and wakes up in the future on a spaceship where he starts killing people in outer space? you genuinely think this is the kind of movie and scene I'm referring to when I'm arguing for the potential artistic value of a type of scene? Jason X? Jason X? the one with Jason on a spaceship? you think that "well Jason X, the movie about Jason on a spaceship killing people in space, is bad" is a rebuttal to my point? Jason X? Jason X? J

[thatfunkyopossum]

Please do not forget that omega being a clone of jango fett is not only racist but also extremely transphobic.

[thatfunkyopossum]

For anyone wanting an explanation: taking an identical clone of a cis man and bending over backwards to make her a cis girl when it would make infinitely more sense in every respect for the character to be trans isn’t cool

[tokenized]

The funny thing is this isn't really very possible even if they went out of their way for it. It'd be much more feasible to snip an X chromosome and add SRY than it would be to add a whole X chromosome, which would imply Jango was trans and they went out of their way to make most other clones cis. Otherwise Omega would have to be trans feminine. There's no way for her to be cis unless Jango was trans or she's intersex, with something like AIS. The latter is the only option that could happen by accident and the most likely explanation if Jango was a perisex cisgender man.

She literally has to be either trans or intersex or both, one way or another.

[fragiledoeyes]

People going on about how Boba and Luke would have fought had they met each other in the finale are very wrong. Luke would have been surprised, delighted even, to see Boba alive and probably would have inquired as to how he was doing, if had he recovered well from the sarlacc. He would have been very polite and kind, and Boba would be very much hoping the deck would open and and swallow him whole because he doesn’t do this “socializing” thing very well.

[pipiwuwu]

i just know he was trying so hard not to laugh

[tokenized]

I come back after... a year? Or more? And everything is immediately 100% Star Wars. Sorry about that.

[gdcee]

Boba: I still owe you.

Din: Huh?

Boba: Until the child is returned safely to you, I am in your debt. And I don't see any child.

Din: Oh...yeah.

Boba: ...well? I don't like leaving my debts unpaid.

Din: ...I guess I could use a new ship? Or some information on where my covert might have gone?

Boba: Right then, I'll just buy you a new ship.

Fennec: Boba we don't have any money.

Boba: Yeah, but I know a guy who does.

A little while later on Tatooine...

Boba: Good news, mate, we can get you a new ship and information!

Din: How did you manage that?

Boba: I killed a crime lord and took possession of his fortune and information network.