So I'm not trying to start anything with anyone I just want to preface this ask with that. But I heard from a friend that apparently the pan flag creator supports all kink at pride. But I'm trying to look for receipts on this and I"m not finding much of anything. What do you think of this situation? I'm a little lost tbh
so every year now around june there’s “discourse” about whether or not there is a place for kink at pride. it’s been a hot topic this month, and jasper, like everyone else, weighed in. they aren’t against kink at pride. people took issue with that.
and for the sake of not going back and forth with anyone about this topic, i’m going to say some stuff and that will be it, because i’ve talked it to death on twitter, i have no interest in doing that on here too. (please note that this is not a rant directed at you, genderfluidlucifer)
so it’s important to know what is actually being referred to when people say kink belongs at pride. we’re (yes, i agree that kink belongs at pride) talking about communities who have always been a part of pride, that have played important roles in queer history.
we are not talking about people fucking in the middle of pride, or sexually harassing or assaulting people, or walking around naked shoving their genitals or the sex toys they’re currently using in people’s faces.
those are the bad faith takes people are assuming we’re supporting. people are genuinely arguing against those things, as if anyone is actually advocating for them. and the exact same thing happened in previous years.
not only does that show how quick people are to assume queer people are sexual predators, but it also shows how little they know about kink and pride history.
the quote retweets i’ve seen jasper get because of this topic range from ridiculous bad faith assumptions to more calls for a new pan flag to personal insults to accusations of pedophilia.
that’s not an appropriate response to an acknowledgement of pride’s history and a lack of desire to kick people out who have been there and have done important work for the community.
and something that is very forgotten in this “discourse” is that there isn’t one singular pride event. there are many, all over the place, and they’re all different. some are family friendly, some are focused around kids/teens, some are alcohol free, some are kink inclusive or focused, some allow nudity/near nudity, some are 18+, some have alcohol, etc. etc. etc.
every pride event is not for everyone. people need to be doing the research to find out what a pride event is like and what it includes to make an informed decision about whether or not they’d be okay to go to it. and if it isn’t, they can then find one they can attend.
instead of thinking every pride event ever should cater to your specific triggers or squicks or ideas of what’s “acceptable in public” or whatever else, and then getting angry and self righteous and queerphobic when they don’t.
it’s also worth noting that a lot of the arguments people are using are hypocritical, such as the claims about not wanting kids to see near nudity or anything sexually suggestive, but having no criticism of beaches or musical festivals or any general pda from non-queer people. it’s interesting how the claims of being sexually perverted are saved only for queer people.
and a lot of the arguments are just recycled homophobia. arguments like, “think of the children” and “i support you, i just don’t want to see it” and “keep it in the bedroom, i don’t need to know about your sex life” sound a little familiar, don’t they?
anyways i think that’s all. basically, people are attacking and harassing and trying to “cancel” jasper again over fucking nothing.
there’s more said and discussed on this topic in the threads and tweets i’ve shared on twitter, if anyone is interested. and this article is always handy: https://www.them.us/story/kink-bdsm-leather-pride























