Vanessa

He/Him please and thank you

[skyscrapersanddandelions]

kids of color, you’re allowed to get a bitey when a white friend does something racist. literally 0 percent of people of color are obligated to be nice and palatable for white people. holding your tongue in the name of kindness doesn’t really do much in regards to stuff like this because white people are going to see you calling out their own racism as unkind anyways. white people, if a person of color comes off as aggressive while calling you out for racism, just fucking listen to them. they’re not coming from nowhere, and believe it or not: they know more about racism than you do! shocker, i know. just thickskin it, because it’s really not about you.

[skyscrapersanddandelions]

white ppl can rb but keep your damn mouths shut

[vanessa-the-besta]

Let me preface this by saying that I'm white, and I'm talking to all the white people reading this and getting angry: shut up.

You have no right to preemptively decide how a race-- no, how a HUMAN BEING-- can and can't react to you hurting them. That's what racism is. You're hurting someone, and they're lashing out. Maybe you feel like you don't deserve that treatment, and maybe in some situations you don't. Maybe someone is reacting based on YEARS OF TRAUMA, because YES being a poc essentially is traumatic. I can't even begin to comprehend the things that poc face, the fear of "stepping out of line" with the wrong person.

Shut the FUCK up and LISTEN. If you're hurt, take a step back. Stop fucking blaming others for your emotional reactions and take a minute to yourself to contemplate what it is you did.

Yes sometimes people can over react, but you know what??? You can't say that a poc is being mean to you and therefore you're not racist, because YOU'RE DOING THE SAME FUCKING THING.

I remember a white coworker talking to my other coworker about how a black person had told him not to say something because it was racist. The white guy was all offended because he didn't mean it that way. You know what i said? "All you have to do is say 'hey man I'm sorry.'" He didn't listen because i work in a machine shop filled with conspiracy theories and Trump supporters, but seriously. That's all you have to do. Just fucking apologize, and tell your white friends to apologize when that comes up.

I'm tired of seeing everybody say that you're only allowed to be angry in X way. Stop controlling how POC are allowed to react, and stop instantly assuming that this post is inherently saying "let poc abuse you for being white."

Its 2021, not 2014. Shut the fuck up and be a good person before you tell others how to be a good person.

"But-" no. This isn't about someone claiming racism because they don't like you. This isn't about your black coworker who claimed racism when a white coworker didn't say hi simply because she was busy. This is about you saying things that HURT people. Recognize that you haven't faced that. Even if you were mistreated for being white, you haven't experienced it. In fact, take that experience and recognize that POC live in fear of that. A one time event for you is a life's experience for them.

Sorry for stepping on any toes, i read the replies to this and got angry.

[vanessa-the-besta]

Hey friends trans issues and women's issues are not enemies and you help no sides by trying to define who is and isn't XYZ based on your own perceptions.

[thefallingmaze]

UPDATING THIS POST W MORE INFO AND WAYS TO HELP

GUYS please listen to Lebanese people, if they say petitions and donations will either not help or cause more negative outcomes but things such as supplies will help them more, please listen. I know at least here news talked about it for a few the past weeks and it's getting attention more globally through media, please read into it and found out ways to help which doesn't let the government be involved or interfere.

What is happening and more: x

Missing persons: x

Also know one of the things I was also pin pointing at regarding former news, which is why donating is tricky! It is corrupt but most importantly not long ago their valuta collapsed, sending money will be worth nothing or be taken by the government.

Support by donating medical supplies, donating blood when able, donating to the Lebanese red cross & Impact Lebanon ONLY to them or other trustworthy independent non gov supported organisations CHECK before donating!

Here's why:

Latest News:

Currently known number of at least +3k wounded, including family of the premier for those who absolutely want to know. Last update on the death toll that has not been changing as we speak and will likely continue to rise fast: +-75

The premier has given the emergency state for Lebanon for a total of two weeks.

Toxic gasses have been found in the air of Beirut, citizens are requested to wear masks and stay in doors

News and someone here on tumblr rebloggin it spoke of the blast being HEARD all the way in Cyprus 240 kilometres away from Lebanon.

Offices and houses kilometers from the place where the blast happened are severely damaged, close perimeters wiped to the ground. People are said to be trapped in houses according to the red cross, glass erupting has caused lots of wounded.

Earlier unconfirmed if chanfes: Though authorities arent certain it was an accident or attack. Confirmed news after speculation from chemicals fireworks to explosives: it has been 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate that was kept in the building after it is said to have been seized years ago and stored in the harbor. There will be an investigation to confirm more about this.

Various countries are giving Lebanon humanitarian aid, from medical supplies to search and rescue teams.

Large parts of Lebanon face a negative travel advice.

The blast was powerful enough to be registered as an 3.5 earthquake through seismic activity ...

Hospitals seek all types of blood, large lack of supplies, beds, space, personell and blood to treat every wounded person. People are rejected to be helped. Dozens of injured are according to the medics in surgery, resulting into a growing lack of space, personell, blood and supplies!!!

August 5th will be a national day to mourn.

Reminder Impact Lebanon & Lebanese Red Cross are legit organisations you can donate to. Medical supplies can be helped through x set up by medical students from lebanon to buy supplies for the local hospital without interference from the government or directly through their valuta.

THOSE WHO WERE IN BEIRUT, IN THE EPICENTRE AND ARE EXPERIENCING THE FOLLOWING: listen to your body, avoid further injuries and triggered, seek help if absolutely needed, hospitals are flooded and turning away people despite blood pouring down their faces etc!!!

[worldlykid]

I found this really important tiktok about what to do if a Jehovah's Witness or Morman missionary comes to your door:

[thefriendlyneighborhoodpervert]

I spent some time in a Jehovah's Witness church. They're exceptionally skilled at recruiting people into their church. (And I was an ATHEIST)

I left after a couple months, I stayed just long enough to see that they explicitly believe women are inferior to men, and of course, that homosexuality is a sin on par with murder.

The whole missionary door to door thing is NOT how Jehovah's Witnesses recruit. That is how they convince their members that the world is out to get them. One of the first things they teach is that Jesus requires you to try to convert non Christians to the faith. (They say non Christian but mean non JW.)

Then they say, "look how people treat us, just for the crime of wanting to save their soul"

They have long time church members tutor the incoming members to smooth the process over. They're trained to smooth away any doubts you may have about the church.

It is a textbook cult but because it's a Christian cult, nobody will do anything about it.

[vanessa-the-besta]

I never felt comfortable with Mormons and JW because i could tell the people i were talking to weren't bad people but I never liked turning them down bc I'm one of those people. This is rly nice to know for that basic anxiety too because you have a real reason other than just to be polite.

[compostpile]

when it comes to consciousness raising you can spend time telling someone “crazy” is a slur or you can spend time explaining that what looks like “care” or “cure” or “mercy” to them is actually eugenics or abuse. one of these projects has to precede the other and i bet you can guess which one i would prioritize

[compostpile]

you’re either going to build a base of clueless liberals who learn by rote to nitpick their language for anything with the remotest connection to ability, or you’re going to help them develop the alertness and critical eye necessary to recognize eugenics and abuse. i don’t think those things are mutually compatible in an immediate timeframe, because one locates both the root and branch of oppression in a disembodied cloud of language and thought, and the other locates it in the real material structures that we need to confront immediately in order to save actual lives. not saying “crazy” isn’t going to get anyone out of forced institutionalization

[vanessa-the-besta]

@ men (and any others, it's most common with men afaik) who get told "you're trapped now" when u get married. Good response: "I'd rather be trapped with the love of my life over anybody else"

You'll get hella brownie points

[robeblr]

The GI Rights Hotline provides accurate, helpful counseling and information on military discharges, AWOL and UA, and GI Rights:Why should I

[girl-sim-deactivated20230806-de]

I called this hotline TODAY, about an hour ago. The person I spoke to was VERY HELPFUL. There are MANY OPTIONS at your disposal for resisting orders, even if they try to tell you they are lawful!

If you are activated, CONTACT JAG IMMEDIATELY. They may have you refuse the orders anyway but at least you have their legal counsel.

Guardsmen, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. PAY ATTENTION.

[hodophile99]

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed …

Oath of a United States Soldier……

[girl-sim-deactivated20230806-de]

I do not follow orders that CLEARLY violate the constitution. Suck my dick.

[pulmosan-deactivated20200908]

Did they like, actually read the oath lmao? Because I’m pretty sure someone asking you to violate the Constitution equates to a domestic threat to it, which is like, as the oath actually says, one of the things you’re defending said Constitution against.

[karagin22]

Amazing…let’s promote this, let’s go with the idea that the soldiers either didn’t understand the oath they took, or can’t understand that following the orders to do their job is not illegal or immoral. The oath states domestic and foreign. Now if the other side is attacking civilians, which Antifa and the rioters are doing and they are classified as enemies of the state, then guess what buttercups, you will do as you are ordered. See that’s the thing about the military, we have our oath and we have the UCMJ, so trying to claim you can’t do something now actually breaks several of the UCMJ Articles and thus puts any soldier is a bad spot. So if anyone is in the military, be it active, Guard or Reserves and can’t follow their oath or the LEGAL orders of their officers, then I highly suggest and encourage you to speak with your commanders both at the company and battalion levels and take a discharge now. As for all of you who hate the military and are trying to encourage sedition in the ranks, now that your actions make you part of the domestic groups that can be considered enemies of the Untied States.

[vanessa-the-besta]

Wow I can't believe using your right to free speech to promote the spread of knowledge of a real legal service is domestic terrorism? Disregarding that piece of bullshit, a lot of people don't know what constitutes as legal, especially in the military.

Especially in the military.

Where you can legally abuse people.

Where your commanding whatever the fuck can look at you and say "hm. You look like a guy i didn't like in highschool, let's make your life a living hell" and get away with it. So yeah fuck the military. Fuck all of the brainwashing. You're trained to follow orders through fear of pain, humiliation, and more. Even if you don't think that's what's happening, your body and brain are associating every. Single. Act. of punishment with disobeying.

I don't agree with allowing people to abuse others, many who didn't really get a choice (sorry but if you join the military for any reason to do with finances instead of a desire to protect and serve that's not a real choice) about if they were enlisting or not. If that makes me a terrorist then fuck it I'll be the first one to storm the White House.

[anarchistcommunism]

‘BlueLeaks’ Exposes Files from Hundreds of Police Departments

[criticallyalexandrite]

Would be a shame if this thread became viral.

[vanessa-the-besta]

If your way of "supporting" women forced into sex work is by throwing people who did genuinely, consensually choose to go into sex work under the bus then you're not really trying to help anything. Instead of trying to get rid of all forms of sex work just push for better regulations.

[astrodidact]

[serialreblogger]

hey ok but actually 

(x)

Y’all Americans aren’t brainwashed. You aren’t insane. The vast majority of you don’t agree with the rioters--or the president. It’s just that you have an extremely vocal 15% minority that care more about their own power than about anyone else’s actual lives, and somehow your president is unfortunately a member of that 15%

[mpregwizard-deactivated20260125]

make it known that the majority of people dont agree with trump and co. its not helpful to make it seem like the people who disagree are a minority. its easier to stand up with others than it is to do so alone. this is one if the ways thats unions, strikes, protests, etc are prevented. its intentional. they want you to think you're alone.

yes, that small percentage may be brainwashed, but it does more harm than good to say that everyone is.

[onlinepunk]

Some of you need to learn the difference between skinny girls being made to feel insecure about their body from certain people and fat girls being made to feel like their entire life is worthless because of their body size from literally the entire world

[vanessa-the-besta]

How about we stop making it a pissing contest over who has it worse and actually focus on the people doing the mean shit. All this is doing is demonizing people who have no inherent link to each other except for how the outside world sees them.

I'm skinny af, and luckily I haven't faced much backlash over it esp as an AFAB person. In fact I recieved more problems from being fairly androgynous. I've also been treated like I had an ED, because "your people are usually bigger" (he used a gesture rather than a word but that was the message). I was told this by a doctor.

Do I think I'm oppressed for it? No. I still don't like being treated like I'm weak and frail any more than my bf, who is heavier then I, likes being treated like he can't control what he eats. Neither of us are the problem, it's the people pushing BOTH of these ideas.

If someone is insecure about their weight, heavy or not, it isn't their fault. There's a "perfect" body to society and everybody is pressured to fit into it, fight the pressure not those who are pressured.

That being said this statement is important for what i believe is OPs original intent, which is "instead of trying to put down one problem by bringing up another, focus on the actual source of the problem." It's to the same type of people who put down blm because white people can face problems too (not necessarily for their race, just whatever those people believe when saying it)

Tl;Dr putting emphasis on weight when discussing the issue of treatment towards fellow human beings is wrong when the focus is on if the person deserves to be treated as a human. Everybody deserves the right to be treated as a human, and that means looking at who they are and not what they look like.

[cisyphus-deactivated20140730]

Slurs are not oppressive because they are offensive, they are oppressive  because slurs by nature of being slurs draw upon certain power dynamics  to remind their target of his/her/their vulnerability in a certain relation to power and as an extension of that, to threaten violence and exploitation of that vulnerability.

[kalpansh]

THANK YOU

[crazy-pages]

I feel like a lot of privileged people see slurs as just, like, bad words. (I know this is how I saw them before they got applied to me). They’re words which are impolite or exceedingly rude to use, which are bad because some people don’t like it when you use them. And it just so happens that in the case of slurs, people don’t like them because of their historical context which makes them a ‘special’ kind of bad. 

Except that’s not it at all. 

When someone uses a slur that can be directed at you it’s terrifying. There’s a moment of “oh god, am I safe?”. To be part of an oppressed group is to know that there are people out there who can and will hurt you. And when someone uses a slur you are suddenly confronted with the very real possibility that they are one of those people. And you have to ask yourself “am I safe?”. 

Slurs aren’t bad just because they cause offense, they’re bad because they create terror. If you wouldn’t casually whip out a knife and brandish it at someone, don’t use slurs either. Because being on the receiving end is a very similar experience. 

[vanessa-the-besta]

Thank you for putting it into words! I never knew how to explain to someone the reason slurs weren't just an uncomfortable word to a person.

[desperatelyseekingsanity1-deact]

[anti-capitalistlesbianwitch]

A soft no is still a no.

[5starglitch]

I’ll retweet a million times

[vanessa-the-besta]

If you ever get a soft no like this, there are plenty of things you can say to try and understand what one means. Sometimes things just go to fast and startle them, sometimes they just realized they're not ready.

The best thing to do, imo is to ask if they're okay, if there's anything you can do (sexual or not) to comfort them, and back off.

Sometimes someone just doesn't feel comfortable in a situation they thought they would be comfortable in. I had a situation where my conscious mind was fine but the second he got close to a certain area my instincts overwhelmed me and I grabbed him very suddenly. He wasn't great about handing it I'll admit, but he didn't continue.

Tbh it's hot af when ur partner is into it. Also when they're already consenting and you stop before making a big step (touching over clothes, touching under clothes, penetration, etc.) to ask if they're okay with it that's a huge way to show you care and to offer them as much understanding and free will as possible.

Sometimes it's hard to tell if someone is into it or not, and sometimes you can't tell when they're lying bc of fear. It's not always fear of the person, it's the situation. I personally get very quiet and still when I'm being touched but it's actually not a negative thing for me. However some people would say it's a huge no no to keep going because of the seeming uh... lack of excitement?

One of the beautiful things about good sex in a relationship that has one is the level of trust it can build. It's something so personal that anything done during that time can have lasting effects. For me it helped me realize how safe I felt, which I had never felt before.

(Note: this is OBVIOUSLY not the only way to build trust and show you care. It's one of many aspects to a relationship and you don't need to have sex at all to have a good relationship with someone. The point is to do it when you're comfortable and when you want to, if you don't want to or you're uncomfortable your brain will just associate all that negativity with sex and the person you're with)

[tuxedo-beanz]

Y'all want another reason why outdoor cats are a bad idea?

So, one day, my brother brought home a cat that previously belonged to one of his friends. This was shortly after my first cat's passing, so I was pretty ecstatic about it. Only problem was my dad didn't want the cat inside the house. Not an issue (at the time) I guess, the cat was outdoor her whole life. She'll be fine, right?

Well, fast forward literally weeks later, she kind of... disappeared? She had a collar with a bell on, too. Unfortunately no tags, but a collar typically means "hey, this cat belongs to someone!" Well, people aren't very intelligent. And one of those people was my (dumb) neighbor.

I don't recall the exact series of events, but basically she straight up TOOK the cat to her house despite the cat wearing a collar, and said "she's a stray!" Needless to say I was livid, and asked her what she thought a collar meant. Also after that, the cat disappeared again and never came back.

TLDR; don't let your cats outside, especially friendly cats, even if they're wearing a collar, because some idiot can and will steal your cat without thinking twice. Also, after she disappeared the second time there's really no way to tell if she was stolen, or worse.

[rjalker]

If a cat is outside wandering around by itself unsupervised and it's not missing, and you aren't actively looking for it and you don't have wanted posters put up? That's a free cat, and honestly you deserve to have it stolen from you.

It sounds harsh, but clearly, your neighbor gives way more shits about that cat's safety than you do.

What's the difference between an outdoor cat and a stray cat?

The difference is there stray cat is one that somebody wants back, a stray cat is a cat that is cared about and people are actively searching for it and trying to keep it safe.

How exactly do you expect people to know that your friendly cat wearing a collar is an abused and neglected cat, and not a beloved pet? ( because news flash, asshole, leaving a cat outside to fend for itself? Putting It In harm's way? Allowing it to destroy native animals? Is abuse and neglect!)

How exactly do you expect people to know that your cat is outside because you don't care about its safety, not that it's outside because it got out by mistake and you are frantically searching for it to keep it safe?

Good for your neighbor. And I hope that when your cat disappeared again, it was because it was taken in by somebody who actually gives a shit about its safety, and not that it was hit by a car, killed by some predator, or other horrible, completely preventable things.

If your cat is outside wandering without supervision, and you are not actively looking for it, that's a free cat. And if somebody takes that cat that is literally nobody's fault but yours.

If you aren't allowed to keep the cat in the house, then you should not own that fucking animal. If you are literally incapable of taking the most basic care of an animal, you should not have that animal.

I had a friend we are no longer friends, but I had a friend and she had her cats outside because your dad didn't want them in the house. Guess what happened to those cats?

One of them got eaten by a fucking coyote, completely fucking dismembered by a God damned coyote.

And the other one? We're not sure what happened to him. We don't know if he got hit by a car, attacked by an animal, maybe kicked by a fucking horse or something since they lived near a farm. We don't know! We don't know what happened to him!

But we do know the results of whatever happened to. The result being that he is crippled for life.

And guess what? When he came home one day limping, his front paw bloody missing fur in a tire chunk taken out of his arm, what did my friend do?

Did she rush him to the vets? Did she at least rush him inside to help him?

No. She saw what happened to him and she just fucking ignored it because as far as she was concerned it wasn't her problem.

When another friend found out what happened to him, she offered to not only not only driving cat to the vets, she offered to pay the entire vet bill.

And guess what this ex-friend did? Did she gratefully accept the offer to have her cat taken care of with literally no cost to her or her family? Did she allow this friend to take this severely injured animal to the vet, literally no expense to her or her family not even wasting her own time?

No. She refused to allow this person to take this literally cat missing an entire fucking chunk out of its armed to the vets. Even though she wouldn't have to do anything. Even though this friend was offering to pay literally the entire bill.

She told this friend, actually, several friends because several fucking people were offering to take this cat to the vet several fucking people were offering to pay for this cat's vet bill, she told them that they were not allowed. She refused.

Not only did she not give a single shit that her supposedly beloved cat was Gravely injured, she actively, actively fucking stood in the way of this animal getting help.

She literally prevented this animal that she supposedly cares about from getting medical attention when it was literally missing a chunk out of his fucking leg, when it was fucking covered and fucking blood and limping and clearly in fucking agony.

Eventually, we managed to take this cat and the one other surviving fucking outdoor cat away from her. Because she still fucking refuse to get this cat medical attention, she refused to even fucking fill up a bowl of water for them, she refused to even put out a bowl of fucking food for them.

By the time we fucking managed to rescue these fucking cats from her abusive piece of shit ass, the damage to this cat's leg was fucking permanent. He is literally going to walk with a limp for the rest of his life, his arm does not fully extend, it is constantly curled up at the wrist.

This cat is literally crippled for the rest of his life because not only did she not giving up schitt's in the first place to keep them safe, she actively refused to get the medical attention when they were injured, even though it literally would have cost her nothing and there were a line of people begging her to let them help.

So don't you fucking complain that somebody who actually gives a shit about your cat safety took your cat in thinking it was a stray.

Don't you fucking dare complain about other people giving an actual shit about the safety and well-being of animals and the environment.

Don't you fucking dare complain about you outdoor cat being stolen when you are literally doing nothing to protect it, when literally every single one of the bad things that could happen to it while it is outside unsupervised, including being taken in by an actual responsible pet owner, is completely fucking preventable.

You don't want your cat to get "stolen"? You don't want your cat to "mysteriously" disappear and never come back?

Then keep your fucking cat inside, and at least pretend to give a shit about its safety and well-being.

[rjalker]

To add the fuck on, last year when Merlin got outside by accident, when we spent three weeks straight scouring the fucking neighborhood for her, spent $100 on live catch traps, spent $50 to print out missing Flyers, when we went all over online to all the missing pet sites posting pictures of her and our contact numbers, when we spent three weeks straight doing everything we could to bring this cat home safely, we found another cat.

Another very very friendly very excitable and sociable cat.

This cat happened to look like Merlin - white and orange. And since we had been telling literally everybody we could in the neighborhood to be on the lookout for a white and orange cat, because we loved Marlin and we adore her and we actually live about her safety, a lot of people were seeing this cat and trying to take it home.

This cat's "owners" we're very exasperated and upset about this.

Guess what?

I don't think there was a single patch of fur on this cat's body that was not caked in blood.

This cat was missing more than half of its fur. And what exposed skin there was was raw and covered in scabs or oozing blood.

And the "owners" knew about this.

Because apparently, this cat was allergic to fleas.

And the so-called owners knew this, and they refused to take it inside, and they refused to take it to the vets, they knew this cat was allergic to fleas, to the point where literally half of its god-damned fur was missing, to the point where half of its body was self-inflicted wounds from scratching, and still, they forced it to live outside.

Another thing about this cat?

It was as skinny as a stick. If you traced your hand along its spine where it's still had fur, you could feel every bone of his vertebrae.

And the owners knew this, and they did not care, and when I ask them if they could take it to the vet or if I could take it and get it to the vet, they told me no. They said no. They refused to contemplate the thought.

My sister and I called the SPCA, because very fucking clearly this animal was being abused.

This cat was so emaciated you could see it every one of its ribs, you can feel every bone and it's fine, half of its fur was gone.

We called the ASPCA.

They didn't do anything. They said they couldn't do anything.

They didn't even send anybody to check on the animal to make sure it was okay or to get it to the vets.

It's been a year now, so I don't even know if that cat is still alive.

But if it is? If I see it at all this summer?

You bet your mother fucking animal abusing ass that I am taking that cat and I am bringing it to the fucking vets, and those people are never going to fucking see it again.

If you don't want someone who actually gives a shit about your animal safety to steal your fucking cat, then do literally the most basic fucking job of yours is as a pet owner, and take the most basic fucking care of it and keep it inside or walk it on a leash or have it in an enclosed fucking yard.

You don't get to fucking abuse an animal and then complain when it's taken away from you you piece of shit.

[bitchterra]

You guys sound very ridiculous is this a parody post?? Having a cat that goes outside is not animal abuse?????? And if a cat has a collar on you don’t have the right to just take it cus it’s outside like are you serious??! Like you expect people to walk a cat?? On a leash??? A CAT? If you don’t let your cat out that’s fine I guess but there’s nothing wrong with people who’s cats go in and outside. Like am I being punked? HelLO?

[tuxedo-beanz]

Yeah, walk your cat on a leash. It's not that ridiculous.

[bitchterra]

Dude cats hate being walked on a leash. Animals like being outside sometimes, especially cats. And saying that someone is piece of shit animal abusier cus their cat goes outdoors sometimes is legit ridiculous. The internet is so weird 😭

[tuxedo-beanz]

Cats only hate it because they weren't trained properly to use it. I literally follow cats on IG that walk on leashes daily, and they love every minute of it. A perfect example would be sukiicat. Not only does it keep them safe, it lets them explore the outdoors without fucking shit up. Oh also?? You don't see dogs free roaming, and they're one of those animals that love being outside. If dogs can be walked on a leash, then so can cats.

Also look, you may not be single handedly abusing your cat (I personally don't really like throwing the word abuse around like that, because I know people do care about their pets), but there is a level of neglect going on because you can't keep a constant eye on your cat. They could come home injured, or not come home at all. They could get poisoned, neighbors could hurt them (happened to my boyfriend's cat, he was shot with a BB gun on two separate occasions years ago, and now has a permanent BB lodged in his chest), they could get hit by cars, attacked by wildlife. My late cat was bit on the shoulder by an opossum, probably because she tried fucking with it, I wouldn't know for sure because I was a baby. Cats could simply hurt themselves by jumping off of things. They aren't indestructible creatures.

[bitchterra]

Yeah but isn’t that just life? You can never 100% shelter your cat from all dangers, even if you do keep it indoors 24/7. I mean shit happens cats get into stuff that’s what they do. But I honestly think cats that are aloud to go outside as they please are a lot happier. Also my dogs run around outside sometimes but I live in the country. But cats are a lot more independent then dogs so taking them on a walk would be waaaay harder. Anyway if you see a cat outside with a collar you don’t have the right to just take it for yourself, because of some distorted savior narrative. That’s like super fucked up.

[tuxedo-beanz]

(Hey I at least agree people shouldn't just up and take a cat with a collar on without a good reason, even if they're outside. It's not safe to assume every person who picks up a cat outside is a nice person. They could have bad intentions for all we know.)

You're also right that you can't shelter your cats from all the dangers, but wouldn't you want to shelter them from as many dangers as possible? So why not keep them indoors? I've seen happy indoor cats. You know why they're happy? Because their owners offer enrichment. Towers, toys, scratching posts, etc. It's your responsibility to keep your cat happy. And again, walking a cat on a leash just takes patience and training. It's 100% doable, and if done correctly it won't be difficult at all.

I haven't even touched on the fact that outdoor cats absolutely wreck wildlife populations. They aren't just catching mice and rats, they're out there killing native birds and reptiles that are essential to the ecosystem. They're really good little hunters, and that's another problem with them being outdoors.

[tuxedo-beanz]

Also you're literally saying it's okay if your cat gets hurt or killed because "that's just life"

[vanessa-the-besta]

Are you just ignoring that the first person responded to you as if you're an idiot despite your point literally being that you were uninformed at the time and didn't know better or did i miss something? I mean they literally said you deserved to get your cat stolen bc it was outdoors w/ a collar??? Why are you being told you deserved a bad experience and treated like you still have cats outside?? (You weren't even the one who wanted the cat outside????)

When a dog gets loose and has a collar you don't tell people the dog deserves to get taken. In fact i literally had the exact same situation happen with one of my dogs when i was young. (Neighbor straight up stole him and i happened to bike by and see him chained to their front yard tree. Our dogs have always been indoor dogs) only difference being it was an accident he got out.

Sorry but I just don't like such an ass tone. "Clearly your neighbor gives more shits than you" uh for taking a cat? Stray and feral cats get horrifically tortured PLENTY by people who just happen to get ahold of them. And I'm pretty sure the friendly ones are more at risk because they're easier to catch.

Tl;Dr: if the person making the post is talking about an experience they learned from, maybe don't berate them when they've learned, and don't assume that just bc someone has an animal indoors that they inherently treat the animal better.

[tuxedo-beanz]

I've already addressed that if you look in the replies. The response from the other person was made a while ago, it was a misunderstanding/ my post was taken out of context/didn't come across the way I thought it would.

HOWEVER it did catch me off guard when they responded that way, I didn't expect this post to get taken out of context like that 😬

[vanessa-the-besta]

Ah okay! I looked at the replies but must not have scrolled far enough

[kidanivillage]

can we stop acting like it’s okay to make fun of people’s physical appearances after they’ve said something ignorant?? especially with women. as soon as someone slips, ya’ll are there tellin’ her how ugly she is like you’ve been waiting for a reason to do it all along. what’s your problem??? stop

[tuxedo-beanz]

Y'all want another reason why outdoor cats are a bad idea?

So, one day, my brother brought home a cat that previously belonged to one of his friends. This was shortly after my first cat's passing, so I was pretty ecstatic about it. Only problem was my dad didn't want the cat inside the house. Not an issue (at the time) I guess, the cat was outdoor her whole life. She'll be fine, right?

Well, fast forward literally weeks later, she kind of... disappeared? She had a collar with a bell on, too. Unfortunately no tags, but a collar typically means "hey, this cat belongs to someone!" Well, people aren't very intelligent. And one of those people was my (dumb) neighbor.

I don't recall the exact series of events, but basically she straight up TOOK the cat to her house despite the cat wearing a collar, and said "she's a stray!" Needless to say I was livid, and asked her what she thought a collar meant. Also after that, the cat disappeared again and never came back.

TLDR; don't let your cats outside, especially friendly cats, even if they're wearing a collar, because some idiot can and will steal your cat without thinking twice. Also, after she disappeared the second time there's really no way to tell if she was stolen, or worse.

[rjalker]

If a cat is outside wandering around by itself unsupervised and it's not missing, and you aren't actively looking for it and you don't have wanted posters put up? That's a free cat, and honestly you deserve to have it stolen from you.

It sounds harsh, but clearly, your neighbor gives way more shits about that cat's safety than you do.

What's the difference between an outdoor cat and a stray cat?

The difference is there stray cat is one that somebody wants back, a stray cat is a cat that is cared about and people are actively searching for it and trying to keep it safe.

How exactly do you expect people to know that your friendly cat wearing a collar is an abused and neglected cat, and not a beloved pet? ( because news flash, asshole, leaving a cat outside to fend for itself? Putting It In harm's way? Allowing it to destroy native animals? Is abuse and neglect!)

How exactly do you expect people to know that your cat is outside because you don't care about its safety, not that it's outside because it got out by mistake and you are frantically searching for it to keep it safe?

Good for your neighbor. And I hope that when your cat disappeared again, it was because it was taken in by somebody who actually gives a shit about its safety, and not that it was hit by a car, killed by some predator, or other horrible, completely preventable things.

If your cat is outside wandering without supervision, and you are not actively looking for it, that's a free cat. And if somebody takes that cat that is literally nobody's fault but yours.

If you aren't allowed to keep the cat in the house, then you should not own that fucking animal. If you are literally incapable of taking the most basic care of an animal, you should not have that animal.

I had a friend we are no longer friends, but I had a friend and she had her cats outside because your dad didn't want them in the house. Guess what happened to those cats?

One of them got eaten by a fucking coyote, completely fucking dismembered by a God damned coyote.

And the other one? We're not sure what happened to him. We don't know if he got hit by a car, attacked by an animal, maybe kicked by a fucking horse or something since they lived near a farm. We don't know! We don't know what happened to him!

But we do know the results of whatever happened to. The result being that he is crippled for life.

And guess what? When he came home one day limping, his front paw bloody missing fur in a tire chunk taken out of his arm, what did my friend do?

Did she rush him to the vets? Did she at least rush him inside to help him?

No. She saw what happened to him and she just fucking ignored it because as far as she was concerned it wasn't her problem.

When another friend found out what happened to him, she offered to not only not only driving cat to the vets, she offered to pay the entire vet bill.

And guess what this ex-friend did? Did she gratefully accept the offer to have her cat taken care of with literally no cost to her or her family? Did she allow this friend to take this severely injured animal to the vet, literally no expense to her or her family not even wasting her own time?

No. She refused to allow this person to take this literally cat missing an entire fucking chunk out of its armed to the vets. Even though she wouldn't have to do anything. Even though this friend was offering to pay literally the entire bill.

She told this friend, actually, several friends because several fucking people were offering to take this cat to the vet several fucking people were offering to pay for this cat's vet bill, she told them that they were not allowed. She refused.

Not only did she not give a single shit that her supposedly beloved cat was Gravely injured, she actively, actively fucking stood in the way of this animal getting help.

She literally prevented this animal that she supposedly cares about from getting medical attention when it was literally missing a chunk out of his fucking leg, when it was fucking covered and fucking blood and limping and clearly in fucking agony.

Eventually, we managed to take this cat and the one other surviving fucking outdoor cat away from her. Because she still fucking refuse to get this cat medical attention, she refused to even fucking fill up a bowl of water for them, she refused to even put out a bowl of fucking food for them.

By the time we fucking managed to rescue these fucking cats from her abusive piece of shit ass, the damage to this cat's leg was fucking permanent. He is literally going to walk with a limp for the rest of his life, his arm does not fully extend, it is constantly curled up at the wrist.

This cat is literally crippled for the rest of his life because not only did she not giving up schitt's in the first place to keep them safe, she actively refused to get the medical attention when they were injured, even though it literally would have cost her nothing and there were a line of people begging her to let them help.

So don't you fucking complain that somebody who actually gives a shit about your cat safety took your cat in thinking it was a stray.

Don't you fucking dare complain about other people giving an actual shit about the safety and well-being of animals and the environment.

Don't you fucking dare complain about you outdoor cat being stolen when you are literally doing nothing to protect it, when literally every single one of the bad things that could happen to it while it is outside unsupervised, including being taken in by an actual responsible pet owner, is completely fucking preventable.

You don't want your cat to get "stolen"? You don't want your cat to "mysteriously" disappear and never come back?

Then keep your fucking cat inside, and at least pretend to give a shit about its safety and well-being.

[rjalker]

To add the fuck on, last year when Merlin got outside by accident, when we spent three weeks straight scouring the fucking neighborhood for her, spent $100 on live catch traps, spent $50 to print out missing Flyers, when we went all over online to all the missing pet sites posting pictures of her and our contact numbers, when we spent three weeks straight doing everything we could to bring this cat home safely, we found another cat.

Another very very friendly very excitable and sociable cat.

This cat happened to look like Merlin - white and orange. And since we had been telling literally everybody we could in the neighborhood to be on the lookout for a white and orange cat, because we loved Marlin and we adore her and we actually live about her safety, a lot of people were seeing this cat and trying to take it home.

This cat's "owners" we're very exasperated and upset about this.

Guess what?

I don't think there was a single patch of fur on this cat's body that was not caked in blood.

This cat was missing more than half of its fur. And what exposed skin there was was raw and covered in scabs or oozing blood.

And the "owners" knew about this.

Because apparently, this cat was allergic to fleas.

And the so-called owners knew this, and they refused to take it inside, and they refused to take it to the vets, they knew this cat was allergic to fleas, to the point where literally half of its god-damned fur was missing, to the point where half of its body was self-inflicted wounds from scratching, and still, they forced it to live outside.

Another thing about this cat?

It was as skinny as a stick. If you traced your hand along its spine where it's still had fur, you could feel every bone of his vertebrae.

And the owners knew this, and they did not care, and when I ask them if they could take it to the vet or if I could take it and get it to the vet, they told me no. They said no. They refused to contemplate the thought.

My sister and I called the SPCA, because very fucking clearly this animal was being abused.

This cat was so emaciated you could see it every one of its ribs, you can feel every bone and it's fine, half of its fur was gone.

We called the ASPCA.

They didn't do anything. They said they couldn't do anything.

They didn't even send anybody to check on the animal to make sure it was okay or to get it to the vets.

It's been a year now, so I don't even know if that cat is still alive.

But if it is? If I see it at all this summer?

You bet your mother fucking animal abusing ass that I am taking that cat and I am bringing it to the fucking vets, and those people are never going to fucking see it again.

If you don't want someone who actually gives a shit about your animal safety to steal your fucking cat, then do literally the most basic fucking job of yours is as a pet owner, and take the most basic fucking care of it and keep it inside or walk it on a leash or have it in an enclosed fucking yard.

You don't get to fucking abuse an animal and then complain when it's taken away from you you piece of shit.

[bitchterra]

You guys sound very ridiculous is this a parody post?? Having a cat that goes outside is not animal abuse?????? And if a cat has a collar on you don’t have the right to just take it cus it’s outside like are you serious??! Like you expect people to walk a cat?? On a leash??? A CAT? If you don’t let your cat out that’s fine I guess but there’s nothing wrong with people who’s cats go in and outside. Like am I being punked? HelLO?

[tuxedo-beanz]

Yeah, walk your cat on a leash. It's not that ridiculous.

[bitchterra]

Dude cats hate being walked on a leash. Animals like being outside sometimes, especially cats. And saying that someone is piece of shit animal abusier cus their cat goes outdoors sometimes is legit ridiculous. The internet is so weird 😭

[tuxedo-beanz]

Cats only hate it because they weren't trained properly to use it. I literally follow cats on IG that walk on leashes daily, and they love every minute of it. A perfect example would be sukiicat. Not only does it keep them safe, it lets them explore the outdoors without fucking shit up. Oh also?? You don't see dogs free roaming, and they're one of those animals that love being outside. If dogs can be walked on a leash, then so can cats.

Also look, you may not be single handedly abusing your cat (I personally don't really like throwing the word abuse around like that, because I know people do care about their pets), but there is a level of neglect going on because you can't keep a constant eye on your cat. They could come home injured, or not come home at all. They could get poisoned, neighbors could hurt them (happened to my boyfriend's cat, he was shot with a BB gun on two separate occasions years ago, and now has a permanent BB lodged in his chest), they could get hit by cars, attacked by wildlife. My late cat was bit on the shoulder by an opossum, probably because she tried fucking with it, I wouldn't know for sure because I was a baby. Cats could simply hurt themselves by jumping off of things. They aren't indestructible creatures.

[bitchterra]

Yeah but isn’t that just life? You can never 100% shelter your cat from all dangers, even if you do keep it indoors 24/7. I mean shit happens cats get into stuff that’s what they do. But I honestly think cats that are aloud to go outside as they please are a lot happier. Also my dogs run around outside sometimes but I live in the country. But cats are a lot more independent then dogs so taking them on a walk would be waaaay harder. Anyway if you see a cat outside with a collar you don’t have the right to just take it for yourself, because of some distorted savior narrative. That’s like super fucked up.

[tuxedo-beanz]

(Hey I at least agree people shouldn't just up and take a cat with a collar on without a good reason, even if they're outside. It's not safe to assume every person who picks up a cat outside is a nice person. They could have bad intentions for all we know.)

You're also right that you can't shelter your cats from all the dangers, but wouldn't you want to shelter them from as many dangers as possible? So why not keep them indoors? I've seen happy indoor cats. You know why they're happy? Because their owners offer enrichment. Towers, toys, scratching posts, etc. It's your responsibility to keep your cat happy. And again, walking a cat on a leash just takes patience and training. It's 100% doable, and if done correctly it won't be difficult at all.

I haven't even touched on the fact that outdoor cats absolutely wreck wildlife populations. They aren't just catching mice and rats, they're out there killing native birds and reptiles that are essential to the ecosystem. They're really good little hunters, and that's another problem with them being outdoors.

[tuxedo-beanz]

Also you're literally saying it's okay if your cat gets hurt or killed because "that's just life"

[vanessa-the-besta]

Are you just ignoring that the first person responded to you as if you're an idiot despite your point literally being that you were uninformed at the time and didn't know better or did i miss something? I mean they literally said you deserved to get your cat stolen bc it was outdoors w/ a collar??? Why are you being told you deserved a bad experience and treated like you still have cats outside?? (You weren't even the one who wanted the cat outside????)

When a dog gets loose and has a collar you don't tell people the dog deserves to get taken. In fact i literally had the exact same situation happen with one of my dogs when i was young. (Neighbor straight up stole him and i happened to bike by and see him chained to their front yard tree. Our dogs have always been indoor dogs) only difference being it was an accident he got out.

Sorry but I just don't like such an ass tone. "Clearly your neighbor gives more shits than you" uh for taking a cat? Stray and feral cats get horrifically tortured PLENTY by people who just happen to get ahold of them. And I'm pretty sure the friendly ones are more at risk because they're easier to catch.

Tl;Dr: if the person making the post is talking about an experience they learned from, maybe don't berate them when they've learned, and don't assume that just bc someone has an animal indoors that they inherently treat the animal better.

[whiskey-gunpowder]

lefties can’t wait to do this here 

[silverscreenx]

Doesn’t this go against the Hippocratic Oath?

[amarretto-cowboy]

This is unbelievably terrifying.

…and dont give me the “if youre not racist, sexist, homophobic, etc you got nothing to worry about” nonsense.

Ive been called a racist for not hating white people.

[eeveelutionsforequality]

“Currently, staff can refuse to treat non-critical patients who are verbally aggressive or physically violent towards them.”

“But these protections will extend to any harassment, bullying or discrimination, including homophobic, sexist or racist remarks.”

“About one in seven of the some-569,000 staff surveyed reported being physically attacked - up slightly on the year before.”

“The poll found staff at ambulance, mental health and learning disability trusts were worst affected by abuse and violence.”

https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-staff-can-refuse-to-treat-racist-or-sexist-patients-under-new-rules-11937175

To correct the misinformation, this isn’t a case of you saying something mean or controversial on twitter months ago, getting falsely labelled a nazi, and then being unable to ever receive care for disagreeing with the left - this is a case of an extension to pre-existing laws, to make it so that if you go to hospital and call your nurse a faggot, you can then be denied non-essential treatment on the basis of harassment. Which, personally, I would say is at odds with the oath, with the commitment that even assholes deserve proper medical care.

That said, given the results of that poll, I think that this is going to affect people who aren’t in their right mind the most - people who are dangerously drunk and picked up by an ambulance, people with severe learning disabilities who are lashing out at the medical professionals because they’re scared, people who have severe dementia (I remember being in hospital with a lady who had severe dementia, who was yelling at the staff members because she was stuck in a memory of having been raped and she was terrified of them, she said nasty things, even racist things, but she wasn’t thinking anything close to clearly), and so on. I’ve been on a psych ward and known people who’ve worked on dementia wards and even wards for severely mentally ill criminals, and I don’t think that it’s very professional to sign up to deal with people in an unfit state, only to refuse to do so because your feelings were hurt.

That said, I’d suggest reading into things like this before assuming it’s the left trying to stifle disagreement, when in reality it’s more likely to negatively impact the mentally ill than political opponents.

[rainbowloliofjustice]

Yeah, this does seem like a terrible idea for people who can get stuck in memories or be triggered into violent PTSD episodes. 

However, it does say “non-critical” which makes it a bit better as they are not in immediate danger? But i mean like, not by much

[eeveelutionsforequality]

When I was in hospital with the dementia patient they were short-staffed, and I had a nurse from the psych hospital with me (I’d smuggled something in and attempted suicide with it, so I had to be transferred to the general hospital for treatment, but I was too at risk to be left alone), and so when the dementia patient got up and started pissing on the floor no staff were available, and I told my nurse that I promised not to make a run for it if she got up and dealt with what was happening (I kept that promise because I definitely didn’t want somebody to get reprimanded for doing the right thing).

So as much as I want to be like “Yeah, at least it doesn’t apply to life or death situations.” I still can’t help but think back to that situation (which was no fault of the hospital staff themselves, it’s a problem plaguing the entire NHS, they mostly did their best with her despite everything… they were obviously uncomfortable with her cruel remarks, and they clearly weren’t trained to properly deal with seriously mentally ill people, but mostly they just had nowhere near enough staff for the number of patients), and I think “Okay, but imagine if you were that person or in a similar situation, and you were terrified and in pain - and even if in this hypothetical all you need is some painkillers for a headache, that headache is still extra pain on top of what’s already going on - and they’re just going to leave you sobbing in your own piss because, in your hysteria, thinking that they were going to rape you, you said a mean word.”

With situations like extremely under-staffed and under-trained nurses already on relatively large general wards all night, tired and irritable, and genuinely abusive or neglectful staff members also being amongst the ranks in unfortunately too many cases, this just adds more fuel to the fire instead of addressing the real issues.

In my general hospital, a lot of the security guards are only there for a short time because they get fired for being “too rough” or behaving improperly, a lot are just ex pub bouncers, etc, I’ve been lectured for attempting suicide by them (because it’s “insensitive to people who are really ill”) and manhandled by them for being delirious, and so it’s already a problem that people can be put at risk when they “act up”, even if we ignore the issues with the medical staff or the lack thereof.

That’s not even getting into the recent abuse and neglect controversies in my local area.

I definitely don’t think that we have the worst hospitals in the world or that there’s some nefarious conspiracy to kill people, I don’t think that it’s socialism run amok and reaching its inevitable conclusion, I think that it’s a case of administration doing what administration does - reading long lists of numbers and not understanding the actual, on the ground experiences and situations that really led to those numbers. Most people would see the fact that learning disability trusts are amongst the most affected and go “Oh right, I see what’s going on here.” but the hollow process of an overbearing administrative system that’s never been in that situation doesn’t. Administration wants to be seen addressing the number of cases of staff being “victims of hate”, because that’s a controversial issue that could easily make them look bad, I don’t think that it’s any deeper than that.

It’s also something that the left doesn’t want to address - very ill people can be nasty. When you’re in that fog and that pain, and somebody is terrifying you, and you need to push back but your arms are held down… you say the worst words that you have available. It sucks, and it sucks for the staff who have to deal with that nasty language - but ultimately that’s what you signed up to do.

The numbers speak for themselves. This isn’t an epidemic of bigots going into hospitals just to yell cruel things at the staff, it’s ill and drunk and high people who aren’t in their right mind. This measure won’t stop that from happening, only leave those people out in the cold… potentially even leading to deaths if what was assumed to be a minor issue turned out to be a warning sign of something severe.

The better solution is better mental health care and staff who are adequately trained to deal with it all. Like I said, I’ve known people who worked in dementia wards and criminal wards, and they’ve been beaten, had chairs thrown at them, had literal shit thrown at them, and heard more bad words than I even knew existed… and I’ve got the mouth of a drunken sailor. But every single one of those people will tell you “At work you’re not you, you’re a carer. You don’t take it personally, you don’t react to it, you do the job that you signed up to do… and if you can’t do that then quit.”

It sucks, and sometimes staff need help themselves to deal with the mental strain of upholding that… so we should provide them with that help, not turn away those in need.

Also, sorry for ranting at you, I know that you’re not disagreeing I just realised like a paragraph in that I had more to say on this.

[vanessa-the-besta]

I didn't understand why this was a problem until you explained it here, thank you.