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ㅤㅤㅤ" A masked scientist and solider of the void. "
• Call me Vacant, or "The Silhouettes", or "V"
• I'm an adult. Old. I could probably be your father, so Minors go away.
• Pronouns: It/It collectively and are preferred. Masculine and non-human terms are allowed.
• The Dove is VERY dead here, do not eat it. This page will contain dark and/or mature themes, triggering topics, suggestive (NSFW) media, and disturbing content. Look away.
• I don't do stances. They are fucking annoying and I already hate black and white boxes as it is. I interact with whatever I want, and if I don't want to interact with it. I block it. I don't really give a shit what you are.
• But speaking of that, I have a very basic, common DNI. Just don't be a fucking bigot. No transphobes, homophobes, racism, ableism, blah blah basic shit. No slurs, I don't really like seeing 'em.
• The only things on my DNI is Yaoi/Yuri fans (Fujo or whatever), worm/bug blogs, "yume" shippers.
• Yes, you may ask me questions/send asks. No, I do not have to answer you. No, I do not accept DMS or friends or mods or partners. (I'm married. 7.10.23)
• For other people's DNI, so you can know to block me or not. Anti's are annoying. I already said I think stances and boxes are dumb. But I have these opinions:
- ACAB.
- BLM.
- All LGBTQIA+ Rights.
- Women's/AFAB rights (Including abortion. Your body, your choice.) So pro-autonomy.
- Pro-Kink and Pro-Para.
- Pro-Recovery.
- Pro-Furry, Pro-Therian, etc.
- Pro-Age/Pet Regression.
- Anti-Censorship.
- Idc about disorder discourse (Including systems/plurals) We know literally nothing about the brain, it's ableist and entitled to think you do, or have the right to police what goes on in others minds.
- That being said, also fuck the hate against certain disorders and disabilities. They aren't dangerous/demons or some gross monsters.
...Again, idrc about what you are. Do whatever you want forever. But don't out labels or anything on me. I just put my opinions down to let people know what they are getting into.
• No, none of my information (like labels, disorders, or disabilities) are any of your business. I'll share only what I'm comfortable with.
• Not that comfortable with doubles or sharing, unless we're close. But to be honest I really couldn't be bothered, so I don't really care.
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It doesn't matter if you're pro or anti endo, willo, tulpa or whatever the fuck.
Im pro endo and such, but im also pro leaving other beings the fuck alone and not harassing others and denying their existence. Dont invade others spaces and just block them. Thats what the fucking block button is for. I dont care if they're "invading your spaces" block them. Block block block. Some of you fail to understand that there's no need to get into an argument with others when they're minding their business. Leave them alone and block them. They'll never even know you were there.
It doesn't matter what your system's origin is. Leave others the fuck alone and keep to yourself. There is no need for arguments or harassing others. Keep your shit in your room. I'll keep my shit in mine.
This goes for everyone.
This is fucking tiring.
When I discovered that I was a system, I got an ask asking if i was endo. What the fuck do you care??? We've probably never even interacted. The ask made it seem like they were hunting endos. Genuinely just leave others alone. It's useless to argue. You're not going to get anywhere. Just fuck off and use the block button for its intended purpose. Block the tags. Do your research so you can avoid the opposite community better. There is so much you can do, and you're not doing it.
Tumblr Post of our Endogenic and Non-traumagenic Plurality Research
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Endogenic & Non-Traumagenic Plurality
By Guardians System, a diagnosed traumagenic DID system with PTSD and CPTSD
For use by everyone, to be read by EVERYONE
Brought to you by sysmeds who say “I’m not reading all that” (/j)
Feel free to DM on Twitter at GuardiansSystemOpen for anonymous questions on Tellonym also under GuardiansSystemOtherwise, just comment! :)
Lists of Links
Put together by community members! (Not thoroughly checked)
Plurality/Multiplicity + Syscourse Resources and Findings
Pastebin by ButterflyBlood - contains info from the DSM-3 to the DSM-V, medical info, community info, Tulpa info, syscourse info, and a video
Cambrian's Thread of Experts
Thread by the Cambrian Crew - contains info from Dr Eric Yarbrough (Distinguished Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association), info from Dr Nijenhuis and Van Der Hart (two of the writers of the Theory of Structural Dissociation), info from the ICD-11 and DSM-V-TR, and an interview by Dr Richard Loewenstein (lead editor of the DSM-V’s section on DIssociative Disorders)
Studies into non-disordered and/or endogenic plurality
Pastebin by Oliviaset - contains multiple science/government links and a video
Collected Plurality Info - 8 pages of resources - Fractal System
Document by The Fractal System - contains explanations on multiple types of plurality and references links to each, contains community info, history info, academic info, and more
Scientific Papers on Endogenic Plurality - r/Plural
Post and comments by numerous systems/supporters - contains a massive amount of uncategorised links to all types of information on non-traumagenic plurality
Multiplicity Links - SARAH K REECE
Site by Sarah K Reece - a previously diagnosed traumagenic DID system that no longer fits the criteria but is still a system, links focus mainly on general helpful system information
Scientific Articles on Nondisordered Systems
Document by Tabellenblatt1 (?) - contains info specific to non-disordered plurality, including the interview by Dr Richard Loewenstein
Ex Uno Plures - Articles
Community site by Plures House - contains explanations on plurality, info on living plural, info on personal experiences, medical info, philosophical info, social info, and syscourse info
An Endogenic Proof Masterlist - Plural Anomaly
Document by Plural Anomaly - contains community info, academic info, and criticisms on the Theory of Structural Dissociation
Plurality Studies - Multiplicity and Plurality Wiki
Wiki made by numerous community members - contains uncategorised abstracts from medical info and info on Tulpas
Non-Traumagenic & Endogenic System Information
General medical/clinical studies and research
It's just a body: A community-based participatory exploration of the experiences and health care needs for transgender plural people
Study by numerous people including a system - repeatedly references and explains multiple types of plurality, both traumagenic and non-traumagenic
Multiplicity: An Explorative Interview Study on Personal Experiences of People with Multiple Selves
Study by numerous people - uses some outdated language, however, explores how systems exist both with and without Dissociative Identity Disorder
Conceptualising multiplicity spectrum experiences: a systematic review and thematic synthesis
Study by numerous people - explores how multiplicity exists outside of Dissociative Identity Disorder in a medical context in order to recommend appropriate health services
Critiquing the Requirement of Oneness over Multiplicity: An Examination of Dissociative Identity (Disorder) in Five Clinical Texts (Alternative Link)
Study by Kymbra Clayton - explains how multiple selves can be healthy without the need for singularity
NORMAL DIMENSIONS OF MULTIPLE PERSONALITY WITHOUT AMNESIA
Study by multiple people - uses slightly outdated language, describes how multiplicity can be considered natural without the dissociative disorders, and how the dissociative disorders could simply be expanding upon multiplicity
Cognitive processes in dissociation: An analysis of core theoretical assumptions
Study by numerous people - discusses potentially healthy dissociation and the existence of dissociation without trauma
MODES OF EXISTENCE: TOWARDS A PHENOMENOLOGICAL POLYPSYCHISM
Study by Mick Cooper - discusses alternative ways for multiple selves to exist
A plurality of selves? An illustration of polypsychism in a recovered addict
Study by Peter T.F. Raggatt - discusses the normality of non-traumagenic multiplicity and different ways for natural plurality to exist
A Jungian Perspective on the Dissociability of the Self
Study by Brian R. Skea - includes multiple mentions of Freud, extremely explicit and triggering language, and repeated use of outdated terms, however helps to provide an understanding of much older views on non-traumagenic dissociation and plurality
TRANSGENDER Mental Health - chapter 11
Book by Dr. Eric Yarbrough of the American Psychiatric Association - states repeatedly throughout the chapter that plurality is only a part of dissociative identity disorder and exists without the disorder, as well as trauma only being reported in some cases of plurality and that trauma is not the only cause for plurality, and states that plurality itself is only a collection of alters
"I've Learned to Treat my Characters like People": Varieties of Agency and Interaction of Writers' Experiences of their Characters' Voices
Study by multiple people - describes authors’ common experience of accidental multiplicity caused by their characters gaining autonomy
Dissociation in Trauma: A New Definition and Comparison with Previous Formulations
Article by Ellert R S Nijenhuis and Onno van der Hart (two of the writers of the Theory of Structural Dissociation) - page 27, at the end of the article, they recognise mediumship and similar practices as a “division of personality,” which is what they refer to the dissociative disorders as
Exploring the Experiences of Young People with Multiplicity
Research by Zarah Eve and Sarah Perry - begins with multiplicity only sometimes being applicable for a DID/OSDD diagnosis, and continues that multiplicity itself and the dissociative disorders are not the same, as well as some respondents not associating their multiplicity with trauma alongside the dissociative disorders not applying to some of the respondents, and having a section for some multiplicity not being based in trauma
Comparison of Brazilian spiritist mediumship and dissociative identity disorder
Study by multiple people - in comparing Dissociative Identity Disorder with Brazilian Spiritist Mediumship, it was found the two shared very similar results, only that the Mediumship results appeared slightly healthier than DID
Tulpamancy
Studies and research specifically on Tulpas, though can apply to other plurality
Tibetan Buddhist with a Tulpa - Opinion on Plurality
Post by Dharma Yokeyodasampa - a Tibetan Buddhist with a more traditional Tulpa asking community members for questions, discussions include what they think about plurality, western Tulpamancy, how their Tulpa feels, and the difference between western Tulpamancy and the Tibetan practice. (This is a post compiling and explaining most of it, with a response from Dharma.)
Personality Characteristics of Tulpamancers and Their Tulpas
Study by multiple people - examines and explores what Tulpas are, what they do, their role, Tulpa experiences, some history, and more
Sentient companions predicted and modeled into existence: explaining the Tulpa phenomenon
Study by Kaj Sotala - describes a theory on how Tulpas may be psychologically caused via “feedback loops” (can also be applied to various other types of plurality, such as multiplicity caused by authors/artists and caused by other disorders)
A Time for Tulpas
Thesis by Nick Stager - discusses what a Tulpa is, experiences with Tulpas, the development of Tulpas, how other practices may be similar, how an author can accidentally create Tulpas, and more
Tracking the Tulpa - Exploring the "Tibetan" Origins of a Contemporary Paranormal Idea
Book by Natasha L. Mikles and Joseph P. Laycock - explains what Tulpas are, how Tulpas are created both intentionally and unintentionally, some of the history behind Tulpa, and Tulpas based on theosophy instead of the Tibetan practice
Tulpas and Mental Health: A Study of Non-Traumagenic Plural Experiences
Study by Jacob J. Isler - explains what Tulpamancy is and how it can differ from Dissociative Identity Disorder but still be plural
Paranormalizing the Popular through the Tibetan Tulpa: Or what the next Dalai Lama, the X Files and Affect Theory (might) have in common
Article by Ben Joffe - explains what Tulpas are, how Tulpas develop, Tulpa experiences in the outside world, the difference between Tulpamancy and the Tibetan practice, some of the history behind Tulpas, Theosophy-related Tulpas, and Tibetan Sprulpa experiences
Making Friends - Transcript of a Podcast on Tulpas
(Slightly incorrect: more info here) Discussion by multiple people - explains multiple personal experiences with a Tulpa, actions of a Tulpa, accidental creation of Tulpas through writing, Tulpas taking over the physical body, Tulpas having a different identity, purposeful creation of Tulpas, discussions with professionals (Richard J. Loewenstein,) the difference between Tulpas and psychosis, the similarity between Tulpas and Dissociative Identity Disorder, how without distress then it can’t be disordered, and more
Daring to Hear Voices
Dalai Lama - Buddhist practices are open to those who need them
Clinical Information
Helpful medical information not specifically related to non-traumagenic systems
DID Brain Pattern Study Doesn't Measure Up - December 2018
Critique by Spot&Cerberus - discusses the multiple flaws with the MRI scan on DID patients
Moral Status and the Treatment of DID Study by Timothy J. Bane - discusses the current known treatments for DID in the context of integration being commonly used, how it may be unethical and unhealthy to force integration, and that a multiple can healthily exist
DID, OSDD, and UDD Diagnostic Guide (NZ)
Diagnostic guide by ACC (Accident Compensation Corporation) - the New Zealand guide to diagnosing patients with DID, OSDD, and UDD, includes history of the diagnosis, problems with the diagnosis, alternative diagnoses, requirements for a diagnosis, what to avoid in a diagnosis, what to look for in a diagnosis, and similar
The Theory of Structural Dissociation
Theory by multiple people - the most commonly used theory to explain dissociation, often specifically related to dissociative disorders
Problems with the Theory of Structural Dissociation
Research by multiple people - discusses multiple problems with the Theory of Structural Dissociation, including it being a theory, the discarding of derealisation, depersonalisation, dissociative fugue, dissociative amnesia, the lack of association with trauma and PTSD in the DSM-V, and proposes some different ideas
ICD-11 for Mortality and Morbidity Statistics
Book by the World Health Ogranisation - Dissociative disorders on 6B64
DSM DID ALTERATIONS
DSM-V-TR
DSM-V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition)
Book by the American Psychiatric Association - Dissociative Disorders on page 336
DSM-IV-TR
DSM-IV
DSM-III-R
DSM-III
DSM-II-SPECIAL
DSM-II
DSM-I-SPECIAL
DSM-I
Plural History
Explanations and references to different parts of plural history
Plural History - 1811
Collection by Lb Lee - contains multiple parts of history in which systems of all types have existed (there are 4 different chapters)
A Partial History of Plural Self-Advocacy
Collection by Alt H - describes times in history starting from 1987 when non-traumagenic plural advocacy was recorded
It's Not Just a Tumblr Thing - Kerry Dawkins
Article by Ex Uno Plures - contains references in history to plurality outside of and before Tumblr
A Brief History of the Use of "System" in a Non-DID Space
Collection by Lb Lee - describes the history of the word “system” being used to describe those with multiple selves, and how it isn’t a disorder-specific term
A Quick'N'Dirty History of "System" as Plural Slang
Collection by Lb Lee - explains the history of the word “system” and the different uses
"Endogenic" was not coined by Freud
Collection by Sophie in Wonderland - a discussion on the anti-endos claim that “endogenic” was coined by Freud
Origin of the term Endogenic
Explanation by the Lunastus Collective - details how the term “endogenic” came to be created, what led up to it, and what happened after
I saw a post saying we should just believe RAMCOA surivors... okay... so how about this one?
Explanation by Sophie in Wonderland - describes how and why anti-endos think “system hopping” was stolen by endogenic systems from RAMCOA systems, including an explanation from the RAMCOA system that anti-endos reference
Community Explanations
Explanations on endogenic plurality by community members (sources are used)
Debunking the Anti-Endo Carrd - Guardians System
To be updated
What do Sysmeds say That is Transphobic/TERF Rhetoric?
Post by multiple people - a discussion on the comparison of sysmeds and transmeds, and how their arguments and the language they use is the same
Why Not Just Use Thoughtform?
Collection by Sophie in Wonderland and Olivia Set - describes why some parogenic systems prefer using Tulpa over Thoughtform
Debunking Sysmeds - Claims and Rebuttals
Carrd by Ozymandias& - lists claims that anti-endos make against endogenic systems, and critiques the claims alongside referencing studies
I would define a plural system as having multiple, compartmentalised, self-conscious agents - SophieInWonderland
Collection by Sophie in Wonderland - an explanation of the validity of endogenic and non-traumagenic systems complete with referenced research and studies
Studies and Research into Endogenic and Non-Disordered Plurality
Masterpost - Academia on Endogenic and non-traumagenic plurality
Post by Inclusive Syscourse - contains an explanation on the validity of endogenic and non-traumagenic plurality complete with referenced research
Claims There is No Research On Endogenics
Post by Unknown - a list of research on endogenic and non-traumagenic plurality alongside explanations and descriptions
Origins of Plurality and Levels of Dissociation
Study by The Phoenixes - uses the DES to gain insight into plurality not caused by trauma
The Tulpa Carrd - explain the nature and origins of Tulpamancy and what surrounds it
Carrd by Unknown - lists an explanation and some history of Tulpamancy alongside references to research
Likely Origins of "Tulpamancy is Cultural Appropriation"
Post by the Dragonheart System - critiques a Carrd claiming that Tulpamancy is cultural appropriation, referencing research and studies
Resources
General helpful resources for all systems
Multiplicity Wiki - A wiki by plurals and multiples, for plurals and multiples
Wiki by multiple people - contains terms, definitions, and general information on all types of plurality and multiplicity
Layman's Guide to Multiplicity
Guide by Unknown - contains terms, definitions, information, explanations, and experiences on multiple types of plurality
The Plural Association - For Dissociative Identity Disorder & all other forms of Multiplicity under the Plural umbrella
Organisation by the Stronghold System (?) - contains help sites for all types of struggling systems, alongside helpful information and articles on multiple areas
Pluralpedia - the collaborative plurality dictionary
Dictionary by multiple people - contains a massive amount of information on the majority of plural terms and history
Endogenic Hub - a site dedicated to endogenic plurality
Hub by the Hordes System - contains information and experiences on multiple types of non-traumagenic plurality, alongside explanations of what plurality is
More Than One - Plurality (or multiplicity) is the existence of multiple self-aware entities inside one physical brain
Site by Unknown - contains information on terms, different system origins, denounces myths about plurality, and different plural experiences
The Dissociative Initiative - For, by, and about people with multiplicity, dissociation, and amnesia
Run by Sarah K Reece - a support group for systems that contains different information and resources on plurality
Tulpa Info - "For Science"
Guide by Unknown - multiple different languages, explains what a Tulpa is, why they can exist, and where to begin when making a Tulpa
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Feel free to share this post and/or the document with anybody. We're open to (genuine) criticism about our links or socument if something's wrong. You're also welcome to tag us in anything or DM us, with questions or to talk about our links or to respond to somebody. We are a pro-endo, diagnosed traumagenic DID system, with PTSD and CPTSD. We collectively use phe/phex/phins, and go by Guardians.
Please always rely on the document over this post, it's much more up to date.
cluster A culture is not being interested in people who don't share my interests, but at the same time hating people who share my interests, because those are MY interests! they're niche and special! FUCK OFF!
also struggling to actually talk about my interests, because what if this reveals something about me.
szpd culture is seeing niceties as a chore. i view checking in on people as the average person would view doing the dishes. its something i absolutely dont want to do, but i do it anyway because i have to; its just an obligation. i see no reason to text anyone first or hang out with anyone, but i do because thats just how you uphold friendships. i loathe the idea of my life always looking like this, but thats just how it has to be. i do it anyway.
i dont comfort people because i like it, or because i find it easy. the morality of it isnt even what me doing it hinges on. i just do it anyway. i hate it just as much as i hate being the one comforted, but i still do it. i commit myself to everything it takes to keep the people in my life and maybe one day i’ll find a proper reason to. for now though its working out in my favor and thats all i really care about
Also I am begging people that aren't impacted by orientalism to actually listen to the people who are about why we may not like the term yume. People will come up with every single thing they can to try to justify their use of the term and I'm sorry, but you should maybe stop and think about why it is that you see no issue with it when Asian people have repeatedly explained what the issue with the explosion in popularity of the term yume specifically is. Yume is a specific subculture online but it's an Asian subculture, and a lot of non-Asians have co-opted that while misusing terms related to it. Nobody is going to force you at gun point to stop using the term, but please consider why it is that you might immediately get defensive about your use of it when others have talked about how its popularity is a product of cultural appropriation
Don't use either of these platforms if you value yourself and your safety.
Orbit is open about using AI and doubles down no matter what if you point out how risky using AI for an app like this is.
Indigo on the other hand, made an eager post about the app they're developing, saying that they can look at your data and will very much delete your account if they find out you're an endo or find endo material in your account.
Remember that there are going to be people looking to take advantage of the fact there's very little for systems right now. Do your due diligence and make sure to do extensive research before using any platform claiming to be for systems, even if by a system.
We had attempted to go back to download the video where they said it, but it appears they've deleted it.
I recognize this as suspicious, and I take full accountability on the fact that I should've thought ahead considering the severity, but I no longer can give my proof
I had come across the video on my fyp. Commented on it even. But if I had to guess, they deleted it as even from their side of the discourse people were upset about the snooping.
They haven't blocked me, as I'm still able to view the account. But that specific video is now gone. I'm sorry
I saw the Indigo stuff too, the EXACT video this post is talking about and the comments were even worse. Even though it's deleted now, I can vouch, I saw it, other people saw it. Can't hide from the internet! Gross.
The anti's have gotten their slimey little hands on coding it seems. With Simply Plural and others shutting down, everyone wants to be the new code. New apps and tests have been popping up. I've seen promotional tiktoks of people saying "test out my new plural app!" And then in the captain its like "NO ENDOS ENDOS ARE FAKE NO ONE IS A REAL SYSTEM UNLESS HR TRAUMAGENIC DID. YALL SHOULD KYS IF U USE MY APP TBH!! WE WILL USE ALL OF OUR MODERATION TO REMOVE YOU!!!"
You're making an accessibility tool. A PUBLIC one. That's not how that fucking works and honestly it makes me just sigh and wonder how you learned to code, being as stupid as you are and all. It's like making a public game and putting it up on steam for anyone to play and putting a DNI in the description, you look goofy as fuck. 😭
An accessibility tool that isn't accessible to everyone..ISN'T an accessibility tool then. And it isn't accessible. You are fake. And your app is fake and being falsely advertised lmfao.
Do you also think wheelchairs are only for paralyzed people who can't walk? Do you shame someone who just has a bit of knee soreness for using one? Honestly with how antis are, probably LOLLLL.
Anyway, remember to check what you guys are downloading, since all these alt apps keep popping up. Especially since a lot of ppl are desperate, there's even deeper issues than just anti's, apps have been popping up that are just genuinely stealing ur shit or might be a virus. Look out.
