Aussie Male, 23, gamer, drunkard, martial artist of 17 years, resident kinky little shit, happily spoken for. I have ADHD and Aspergers. Came for the shitposts, got sucked into the political shit. Raising an army for the great headpat crusade. I donāt tag much so be prepared for anything, you have been warned. I block back ;)
So glad that women started slowly waking up after all that abortion ban bullshit. It's really not worth the unpaid, unappreciated and hard work so that at the end you'll just end up raising a living monster who will continue torture women...
The way this is phrased is very provocative and designed to incite an idea that women create misogynists and male violence when they literally do not. The children of single mothers are also the children of absent fathers, yet we hardly see any focus on that. Nobody blames a child's criminal conviction on the father that abandoned his family, permanently altering that child's concept of family, community, and themself. Yet everybody rushes to blame it on the mother who did not abandon her family and tried to make ends meet. Because at the end of the day, it's easier to punch down on women than to recognize the widespread problem of absent and irresponsible fatherhood.
Also did you know that children of lesbian couples tend to be more well-adjusted and academically successful? So this whole "children becoming criminals" trend being blamed on mothers or feminism is ... interesting. Children need loving parents, this is very obvious. So clearly when one parent abandons their family, children will suffer. Especially if it's the parent that is more likely to bring in the financial support for the household. But why scorn the parent that stayed and not the one that left?
āThe children of single mothers are the children of absent fathersā
What about the fathers who died? Or the ones who never knew they were fathers? Or the ones who were divorced and refused custody?
I blame the criminal first and foremost but if your kid grows up to be a criminal, outside of a few rare exceptions, you failed as a parent.
Lesbian couples have nothing to do with single mothers, Iām not sure why you felt the need to put that there but I suspect itās youāre convinced Iām trying to say that women are the problem, that is not the case. Iām merely pointing out the irony of that statistic given the attitudes of the people in the OP, an attitude thatās almost universally shared by modern feminists.
I find it very interesting that you keep trying to frame the issue as always being the result of a deadbeat father abandoning their kids (which is an issue) when we both know thatās not the case.
About the only thing in your post I can agree with is that children need loving parents. The rest is just typical feminist rhetoric trying to blame men for everything, no surprises there.
So glad that women started slowly waking up after all that abortion ban bullshit. It's really not worth the unpaid, unappreciated and hard work so that at the end you'll just end up raising a living monster who will continue torture women...
Bc men hate accountability and will rather self combust! Men abandoning and walking away from their kids but yāall will blame single mothers instead.
Funny how men raised by their fathers sill have higher rate of being violent criminals compared to women in every single country. The common denominator here are men. But men will blame all things but the men that commit crimes.
Also,
Funny how despite men having small chances of having custody, they make up such large position of murdering their childern. Imagine if more men got custody, the rate of children being killed will skyrocket. ļæ¼
Classic radfem trying to shift the blame on men by pretending that every single mother ever is caused by an absent father when the reality is itās more commonly a divorce that leads to the mother being given custody of the kids because of the bias of family courts in favour of women.
According to https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 37.8% of single mothers are divorced and 41% never married (meaning they got pregnant to either a boyfriend or a one night stand/stranger) in 2004. It also states that 60% of rapists and 70% of juvenile murderers came from single mother homes
Many School Shooters are the Product of Broken Homes
This source proves them wrong on two counts, the rate of single fathers killing neglected children (from 2001-2006) is only 0.13% (859/661,129) (killed/neglected) vs 0.12% (1704/1,452,099) for single mothers. So the likelihood of a single father killing a child is only just higher than a single mother. Meanwhile the data collected from the same period show that of all single parents that abuse or kill their children āeither acting alone or in concert with someone other than the childās other parentā, single mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalities. So more men having custody of kids would have a very minimal impact on child fatalities.
The data providing these statistics are also cited in the source to have been taken from the US department of Health and Human Resources
Mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers. Fact? | Child Protection Resource
So in summary, @redfemmayās response is completely wrong on all fronts, which is why thereās no sources to back any of it up
Men who abandon their kids are assholes (funny how people never talk about women that do the same) and the people that commit the crimes are obviously at fault. But to pretend that the parents (or in many cases parent) that arenāt raising their kids properly, especially when the statistics show that it is a factor, arenāt at least partly to blame so you can spew radfem propaganda is reductive and stupid, which is about what you can expect from a radfem.
āClassic radfem trying to shift the blame on men by pretending that every single mother ever is caused by an absent father when the reality is itās more commonly a divorce that leads to the mother being given custody of the kids because of the bias of family courts in favour of women.ā
Classic male deflecting away from any accountability bc accountability makes yāall foaming at mouth and have brain hemorrhage.
More commonly though a divorce ? The rate of single motherhood is more common with non married women. Do men not know what the consequences of unprotected sex ? Do men have no autonomy over their bodies ? You act as if men are all raped here.
Bias of family court ? Oh you mean a court rooted in the fact men believe that women should be primary care and that women are the nurturing ones? The ideology that is connected to women should stay home and be housewives. Funny how back them when men were forcing women to he housewives and not allow them to have any other dreams, yāall males didnāt have any issues with it. Men cry about unfair treatment only when things do not benefits them. MOST LAW MAKERS ARE MALES! Most of those in power are also men. If men truly wanted to change things, they would have. However men do not actually want to win custody of their kids. They just want to use the court system to have something to bitch and play victims of. Bc when a male does win, this switch up like this
Video link ( he deleted his video so I can only find reactions videos)
Single father, Merrick Brown has went viral after being told to choose better when he made a Tik Tok video complaining about raising his son
āAccording to https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 37.8% of single mothers are divorced and 41% never married (meaning they got pregnant to either a boyfriend or a one night stand/stranger) in 2004. ā
So with whom did they have one night stand with ? Isnāt a boyfriend also a male ? I guess if women not married, men shouldnāt be held responsible? Do men not know the consequences of one night stand ? Yāall men truly hate accountability. It takes two to create a child. Why are men having sex with random women ?and with women they know they will not want to marry and start a family with ?
Men complain about child support a lot but that doesnāt stop them from having sex with any woman they can get.
āIt also states that 60% of rapists and 70% of juvenile murderers came from single mother homesā
98 percent of rapists and 90 percent of murderous across the world are. Men that come from houses with both parents still have much higher rate of murder and rape then women that come from single mothers. Funny how daughters that come single mothers are not going out and killing at the rate of men. The common denominator here are men. But men will dig and twist until the accountability is shifted and they can find the nearest women to blame, this time it is the mothers.
āThis source proves them wrong on two counts, the rate of single fathers killing neglected children (from 2001-2006) is only 0.13%(859/661,129) (killed/neglected) vs 0.12% (1704/1,452,099) for single mothers. So the likelihood of a single father killing a child is only just higher than a single mother. Meanwhile the data collected from the same period show that of all single parents that abuse or kill their children āeither acting alone or in concert with someone other than the childās other parentā,
So despite single fathers being rare and given on small chances, they still make up higher rate of killing ? That says a lot about men then anything.
āsingle mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalities. So more men having custody of kids would have a very minimal impact on child fatalities.ā
That is bc mothers win 90-95 percent of custody cases. If more men have custody of their childern, the rate of abuse and killing will skyrocket. As you mentioned earlier despite single fathers being rare they still have higher rates of killing their childern.
Men having custody of their kids will would mean more cases of these:
The father accused of killing his three sons could face the death penalty if he is convicted on all charges, the prosecutor said.
āsingle mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalitiesā
So many of single mothers is that ? Bc 98 percent of rapists are men, 90 percent of murderous are men. 80 percent of violent crimes are committed by men. Does that mean I can say that men are violent creatures ? Can I use that date to paint men ?
Funny how when anyone does that; yāall men cry sexism though.
āMen who abandon their kids are assholes (funny how people never talk about women that do the same) and the people that commit the crimes are obviously at fault. But to pretend that the parents (or in many cases parent) that arenāt raising their kids properly, especially when the statistics show that it is a factor, arenāt at least partly to blame so you can spew radfem propaganda is reductive and stupid, which is about what you can expect from a radfem.ā
You must have drank a lot of delusional kool-Aid! A father abandoning his child is common and unsurprising. A father abandoning their children is not even taken seriously, all they have to do is pay child support. However, a woman is shamed and is expected to take care of her child as a single mother.
Funny how when it comes to adult male criminals, we have to twist it until we can find nearest woman to blame. However, female criminals are the responsibility of turning out like that is solely on them. A man can be 60 years old criminal and yāall will still do mental gymnastics until you can blame the mom.
anything you do not like and any accountability for men is seen as propaganda to you
Do women not also know the consequences of one night stands? why is the man the only one in the wrong when they have a one night stand? Especially if they might not know that the woman they slept with is pregnant? Why is it the manās fault? Sounds a lot like you donāt want women to be held accountable for their actions and you just want to blame men for something that takes two people to do.
The hypocrisy of a radfem of all people claiming men only complain about inequality when it affects them is astounding, have you ever looked in the mirror?
None of your sources actually prove anything, you cherry picked a couple of videos from the internet as if that means anything compared to sources that used government data
Single men have higher rates of killing their children proportionate to single mothers, and itās 0.13% compared to 0.12% so statistically speaking the child fatality rate would barely change, if at all. Which I pointed out already but you clearly either ignored it or canāt read.
As far as the male crime statistics, Iām willing to bet you pulled them out of your ass much like the rest of your argument.
The rest isnāt worth addressing honestly, itās all opinions and typical radfem bile that every radfem feels the need to include in their rants.
TL;DR: a random YouTube video and a Fox News article donāt disprove two sources backed by government data and the rest of your post is the same crap every radfem has spewed since I joined tumblr in 2014.
So glad that women started slowly waking up after all that abortion ban bullshit. It's really not worth the unpaid, unappreciated and hard work so that at the end you'll just end up raising a living monster who will continue torture women...
Bc men hate accountability and will rather self combust! Men abandoning and walking away from their kids but yāall will blame single mothers instead.
Funny how men raised by their fathers sill have higher rate of being violent criminals compared to women in every single country. The common denominator here are men. But men will blame all things but the men that commit crimes.
Also,
Funny how despite men having small chances of having custody, they make up such large position of murdering their childern. Imagine if more men got custody, the rate of children being killed will skyrocket. ļæ¼
Classic radfem trying to shift the blame on men by pretending that every single mother ever is caused by an absent father when the reality is itās more commonly a divorce that leads to the mother being given custody of the kids because of the bias of family courts in favour of women.
According to https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 37.8% of single mothers are divorced and 41% never married (meaning they got pregnant to either a boyfriend or a one night stand/stranger) in 2004. It also states that 60% of rapists and 70% of juvenile murderers came from single mother homes
Many School Shooters are the Product of Broken Homes
This source proves them wrong on two counts, the rate of single fathers killing neglected children (from 2001-2006) is only 0.13% (859/661,129) (killed/neglected) vs 0.12% (1704/1,452,099) for single mothers. So the likelihood of a single father killing a child is only just higher than a single mother. Meanwhile the data collected from the same period show that of all single parents that abuse or kill their children āeither acting alone or in concert with someone other than the childās other parentā, single mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalities. So more men having custody of kids would have a very minimal impact on child fatalities.
The data providing these statistics are also cited in the source to have been taken from the US department of Health and Human Resources
Mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers. Fact? | Child Protection Resource
So in summary, @redfemmayās response is completely wrong on all fronts, which is why thereās no sources to back any of it up
Men who abandon their kids are assholes (funny how people never talk about women that do the same) and the people that commit the crimes are obviously at fault. But to pretend that the parents (or in many cases parent) that arenāt raising their kids properly, especially when the statistics show that it is a factor, arenāt at least partly to blame so you can spew radfem propaganda is reductive and stupid, which is about what you can expect from a radfem.
So you agree. The problem is in men who lack accountability. They shift their part of responsibility to already stressed women just to go buy some milk. Don't understand what you tried to prove here though...
Another classic radfem trying to twist someone elseās argument by cherry picking their post, nice stereotype btw.
The reason you donāt understand what I proved (cited and sourced), that both you and the other radfem that responded are both wrong and idiots is because, as is typical for radfems, you ignored the actual evidence that was put right in front of you.
But sure, if you ignore my entire post except for the first seven words of the last paragraph (which ironically is probably the only part of it that isnāt backed with a source), it would seem like I agree.
Do you know that there is far more single-mother families than other way around and it's logical to have more abusive single mothers than fathers? Learn how to use statistics before trying to ragebait you silly little incel.
The percentages I cited were adjusted for proportion, I understand radfems donāt know how statistics work so youāre trying to pick any little hole you can in my argument to try to score points but youāre still wrong.
Also the irony of trying to shit on men in the same breath as the sentence āitās logical to have more abusive single mothers than fathersā is pretty fucking funny to be honest.
My preferred number of abusive mothers (and fathers) is zero but thatās just me, I understand that radfems donāt care about things like child abuse unless itās men doing it, which is why the other radfem above us (incorrectly) argued that the child murder rate would skyrocket if more men got custody of children (my post above already showed, with a source, that the impact on child murder would be minimal if not negligible as far as statistics are concerned).
Because as far as radfems are concerned even if women do terrible things, itās actually because of men, yet theyāll harp on about men lacking accountability.
My intent was not to ragebait, it was simply to show that the other radfem that decided to try to blatantly lie about reality was wrong, which I did.
Why are there more single mothers than single fathers? I know youāll try to twist it otherwise but the actual answer is that childrenās courts are biased in favour of women, which is a problem in and of itself.
And somewhat unimportant but funny to note, Iām neither celibate or a virgin, so I donāt fit the definition of an incel and havenāt for about 5 years now but in typical radfem fashion you assumed that I didā¦ because baseless assumption is about all radfems are good at
Thatās a funny way of saying you canāt refute anything Iām saying. Also find it fucking hilarious that you say in your bio that you arenāt a feminist but both your opinions and behaviour are exactly the same as that of a feminist.
So glad that women started slowly waking up after all that abortion ban bullshit. It's really not worth the unpaid, unappreciated and hard work so that at the end you'll just end up raising a living monster who will continue torture women...
Bc men hate accountability and will rather self combust! Men abandoning and walking away from their kids but yāall will blame single mothers instead.
Funny how men raised by their fathers sill have higher rate of being violent criminals compared to women in every single country. The common denominator here are men. But men will blame all things but the men that commit crimes.
Also,
Funny how despite men having small chances of having custody, they make up such large position of murdering their childern. Imagine if more men got custody, the rate of children being killed will skyrocket. ļæ¼
Classic radfem trying to shift the blame on men by pretending that every single mother ever is caused by an absent father when the reality is itās more commonly a divorce that leads to the mother being given custody of the kids because of the bias of family courts in favour of women.
According to https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 37.8% of single mothers are divorced and 41% never married (meaning they got pregnant to either a boyfriend or a one night stand/stranger) in 2004. It also states that 60% of rapists and 70% of juvenile murderers came from single mother homes
Many School Shooters are the Product of Broken Homes
This source proves them wrong on two counts, the rate of single fathers killing neglected children (from 2001-2006) is only 0.13% (859/661,129) (killed/neglected) vs 0.12% (1704/1,452,099) for single mothers. So the likelihood of a single father killing a child is only just higher than a single mother. Meanwhile the data collected from the same period show that of all single parents that abuse or kill their children āeither acting alone or in concert with someone other than the childās other parentā, single mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalities. So more men having custody of kids would have a very minimal impact on child fatalities.
The data providing these statistics are also cited in the source to have been taken from the US department of Health and Human Resources
Mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers. Fact? | Child Protection Resource
So in summary, @redfemmayās response is completely wrong on all fronts, which is why thereās no sources to back any of it up
Men who abandon their kids are assholes (funny how people never talk about women that do the same) and the people that commit the crimes are obviously at fault. But to pretend that the parents (or in many cases parent) that arenāt raising their kids properly, especially when the statistics show that it is a factor, arenāt at least partly to blame so you can spew radfem propaganda is reductive and stupid, which is about what you can expect from a radfem.
So you agree. The problem is in men who lack accountability. They shift their part of responsibility to already stressed women just to go buy some milk. Don't understand what you tried to prove here though...
Another classic radfem trying to twist someone elseās argument by cherry picking their post, nice stereotype btw.
The reason you donāt understand what I proved (cited and sourced), that both you and the other radfem that responded are both wrong and idiots is because, as is typical for radfems, you ignored the actual evidence that was put right in front of you.
But sure, if you ignore my entire post except for the first seven words of the last paragraph (which ironically is probably the only part of it that isnāt backed with a source), it would seem like I agree.
Do you know that there is far more single-mother families than other way around and it's logical to have more abusive single mothers than fathers? Learn how to use statistics before trying to ragebait you silly little incel.
The percentages I cited were adjusted for proportion, I understand radfems donāt know how statistics work so youāre trying to pick any little hole you can in my argument to try to score points but youāre still wrong.
Also the irony of trying to shit on men in the same breath as the sentence āitās logical to have more abusive single mothers than fathersā is pretty fucking funny to be honest.
My preferred number of abusive mothers (and fathers) is zero but thatās just me, I understand that radfems donāt care about things like child abuse unless itās men doing it, which is why the other radfem above us (incorrectly) argued that the child murder rate would skyrocket if more men got custody of children (my post above already showed, with a source, that the impact on child murder would be minimal if not negligible as far as statistics are concerned).
Because as far as radfems are concerned even if women do terrible things, itās actually because of men, yet theyāll harp on about men lacking accountability.
My intent was not to ragebait, it was simply to show that the other radfem that decided to try to blatantly lie about reality was wrong, which I did.
Why are there more single mothers than single fathers? I know youāll try to twist it otherwise but the actual answer is that childrenās courts are biased in favour of women, which is a problem in and of itself.
And somewhat unimportant but funny to note, Iām neither celibate or a virgin, so I donāt fit the definition of an incel and havenāt for about 5 years now but in typical radfem fashion you assumed that I didā¦ because baseless assumption is about all radfems are good at
Thatās a funny way of saying you canāt refute anything Iām saying. Also find it fucking hilarious that you say in your bio that you arenāt a feminist but both your opinions and behaviour are exactly the same as that of a feminist.
Been seeing this argument a lot since I came back lately and itās been pissing me offā¦
āItās fantasy so you can make up whatever you want because itās pretendā is a copout. As a DM of about 3 years now, one of my favourite things to do is to come up with some mystical bullshit coupled with a completely plausible explanation as to why it would work in-universe.
Just because itās fantasy it doesnāt mean that you shouldnāt have an explanation for how your fantasy bullshit works, even if it would never work in the real world an explanation that makes sense given the nature of the fantasy world youāve created is far better than bitching out by saying āliteral dragons and potions that heal gaping wounds exist but youāre gonna āxā?ā
Yes, the easy answer to that is that both dragons and healing potions have prior establishment in fantasy. But realistically, you should also have an answer for why those exist in your world and how they work. Anything that doesnāt exist in the real world should have a āplausibleā explanation for how it works, just like how everything in the real world has a āplausibleā explanation, even when those explanations sometimes sound crazy.
So glad that women started slowly waking up after all that abortion ban bullshit. It's really not worth the unpaid, unappreciated and hard work so that at the end you'll just end up raising a living monster who will continue torture women...
Bc men hate accountability and will rather self combust! Men abandoning and walking away from their kids but yāall will blame single mothers instead.
Funny how men raised by their fathers sill have higher rate of being violent criminals compared to women in every single country. The common denominator here are men. But men will blame all things but the men that commit crimes.
Also,
Funny how despite men having small chances of having custody, they make up such large position of murdering their childern. Imagine if more men got custody, the rate of children being killed will skyrocket. ļæ¼
Classic radfem trying to shift the blame on men by pretending that every single mother ever is caused by an absent father when the reality is itās more commonly a divorce that leads to the mother being given custody of the kids because of the bias of family courts in favour of women.
According to https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 37.8% of single mothers are divorced and 41% never married (meaning they got pregnant to either a boyfriend or a one night stand/stranger) in 2004. It also states that 60% of rapists and 70% of juvenile murderers came from single mother homes
Many School Shooters are the Product of Broken Homes
This source proves them wrong on two counts, the rate of single fathers killing neglected children (from 2001-2006) is only 0.13% (859/661,129) (killed/neglected) vs 0.12% (1704/1,452,099) for single mothers. So the likelihood of a single father killing a child is only just higher than a single mother. Meanwhile the data collected from the same period show that of all single parents that abuse or kill their children āeither acting alone or in concert with someone other than the childās other parentā, single mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalities. So more men having custody of kids would have a very minimal impact on child fatalities.
The data providing these statistics are also cited in the source to have been taken from the US department of Health and Human Resources
Mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers. Fact? | Child Protection Resource
So in summary, @redfemmayās response is completely wrong on all fronts, which is why thereās no sources to back any of it up
Men who abandon their kids are assholes (funny how people never talk about women that do the same) and the people that commit the crimes are obviously at fault. But to pretend that the parents (or in many cases parent) that arenāt raising their kids properly, especially when the statistics show that it is a factor, arenāt at least partly to blame so you can spew radfem propaganda is reductive and stupid, which is about what you can expect from a radfem.
So you agree. The problem is in men who lack accountability. They shift their part of responsibility to already stressed women just to go buy some milk. Don't understand what you tried to prove here though...
Another classic radfem trying to twist someone elseās argument by cherry picking their post, nice stereotype btw.
The reason you donāt understand what I proved (cited and sourced), that both you and the other radfem that responded are both wrong and idiots is because, as is typical for radfems, you ignored the actual evidence that was put right in front of you.
But sure, if you ignore my entire post except for the first seven words of the last paragraph (which ironically is probably the only part of it that isnāt backed with a source), it would seem like I agree.
Do you know that there is far more single-mother families than other way around and it's logical to have more abusive single mothers than fathers? Learn how to use statistics before trying to ragebait you silly little incel.
The percentages I cited were adjusted for proportion, I understand radfems donāt know how statistics work so youāre trying to pick any little hole you can in my argument to try to score points but youāre still wrong.
Also the irony of trying to shit on men in the same breath as the sentence āitās logical to have more abusive single mothers than fathersā is pretty fucking funny to be honest.
My preferred number of abusive mothers (and fathers) is zero but thatās just me, I understand that radfems donāt care about things like child abuse unless itās men doing it, which is why the other radfem above us (incorrectly) argued that the child murder rate would skyrocket if more men got custody of children (my post above already showed, with a source, that the impact on child murder would be minimal if not negligible as far as statistics are concerned).
Because as far as radfems are concerned even if women do terrible things, itās actually because of men, yet theyāll harp on about men lacking accountability.
My intent was not to ragebait, it was simply to show that the other radfem that decided to try to blatantly lie about reality was wrong, which I did.
Why are there more single mothers than single fathers? I know youāll try to twist it otherwise but the actual answer is that childrenās courts are biased in favour of women, which is a problem in and of itself.
And somewhat unimportant but funny to note, Iām neither celibate or a virgin, so I donāt fit the definition of an incel and havenāt for about 5 years now but in typical radfem fashion you assumed that I didā¦ because baseless assumption is about all radfems are good at
So glad that women started slowly waking up after all that abortion ban bullshit. It's really not worth the unpaid, unappreciated and hard work so that at the end you'll just end up raising a living monster who will continue torture women...
Bc men hate accountability and will rather self combust! Men abandoning and walking away from their kids but yāall will blame single mothers instead.
Funny how men raised by their fathers sill have higher rate of being violent criminals compared to women in every single country. The common denominator here are men. But men will blame all things but the men that commit crimes.
Also,
Funny how despite men having small chances of having custody, they make up such large position of murdering their childern. Imagine if more men got custody, the rate of children being killed will skyrocket. ļæ¼
Classic radfem trying to shift the blame on men by pretending that every single mother ever is caused by an absent father when the reality is itās more commonly a divorce that leads to the mother being given custody of the kids because of the bias of family courts in favour of women.
According to https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 37.8% of single mothers are divorced and 41% never married (meaning they got pregnant to either a boyfriend or a one night stand/stranger) in 2004. It also states that 60% of rapists and 70% of juvenile murderers came from single mother homes
Many School Shooters are the Product of Broken Homes
This source proves them wrong on two counts, the rate of single fathers killing neglected children (from 2001-2006) is only 0.13% (859/661,129) (killed/neglected) vs 0.12% (1704/1,452,099) for single mothers. So the likelihood of a single father killing a child is only just higher than a single mother. Meanwhile the data collected from the same period show that of all single parents that abuse or kill their children āeither acting alone or in concert with someone other than the childās other parentā, single mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalities. So more men having custody of kids would have a very minimal impact on child fatalities.
The data providing these statistics are also cited in the source to have been taken from the US department of Health and Human Resources
Mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers. Fact? | Child Protection Resource
So in summary, @redfemmayās response is completely wrong on all fronts, which is why thereās no sources to back any of it up
Men who abandon their kids are assholes (funny how people never talk about women that do the same) and the people that commit the crimes are obviously at fault. But to pretend that the parents (or in many cases parent) that arenāt raising their kids properly, especially when the statistics show that it is a factor, arenāt at least partly to blame so you can spew radfem propaganda is reductive and stupid, which is about what you can expect from a radfem.
So you agree. The problem is in men who lack accountability. They shift their part of responsibility to already stressed women just to go buy some milk. Don't understand what you tried to prove here though...
Another classic radfem trying to twist someone elseās argument by cherry picking their post, nice stereotype btw.
The reason you donāt understand what I proved (cited and sourced), that both you and the other radfem that responded are both wrong and idiots is because, as is typical for radfems, you ignored the actual evidence that was put right in front of you.
But sure, if you ignore my entire post except for the first seven words of the last paragraph (which ironically is probably the only part of it that isnāt backed with a source), it would seem like I agree.
Absentee fathers is a toxic masculinity problem, Women primarily being hired for caregiver roles is a patriarchy problem.
Feminism doesn't blame men for inequality. Feminism is about dismantling the systems in place that create the problem.
Men are victims of toxic masculinity too. Men kill themselves rather than admit they have emotions. Toxic Masculinity raises boys to objectify their love interests and so can never hope to form true emotional bonds. It puts men in boxes so they can never truly know who they could have been.
Baffled by this take. Pokemon has asked if you're a boy or a girl from the beginning. Games have asked your pronouns for as long as the computing power has allowed it. Because the characters will talk to you. Using the pronouns you pick. This is as basic as letting you name your character, I don't understand why these people have decided it's political now.
It's weird to see people look at something that has explicitly been political for years, according to those who support it, and going "no, it's not political at all!"
Baffled by this take. Pokemon has asked if you're a boy or a girl from the beginning. Games have asked your pronouns for as long as the computing power has allowed it. Because the characters will talk to you. Using the pronouns you pick. This is as basic as letting you name your character, I don't understand why these people have decided it's political now.
Pokemon actually only started the boy/girl in gen 2 but a) point stands and b) brings up an important reason why pronouns are important in video games and spoiler: it's not because of "wokeness" or "gender equality" as much as it is about how the video game industry treated specifically girls for the longest time.
Oh yes, I'm bringing sexy back by bringing back the oldie but goodie of old fashion Video Game Sexism.
I am a girl. I identify as a girl. I am also a gamer and have been since I was an itty bitty. And you know what one of my biggest pet peeves is, my dearies? When a game doesn't give the choice in a game that theoretically should; I'm talking your open worlds, your rpgs with character customization to some degree, your sims and what have you. Big difference between games that should have it and games that either don't need it (like a rhythm game) or a game that it wouldn't really be necessary in (dating sims of the otome variety for instance which are literally for girls; rants about the fact there are not enough lgbtqia+ dating sims will be saved for another day). But in a game like, oh, Starfield an open world, yeah it should have them.
Why? Because it's not once upon a fucking time yet; we still live in an age where if gender choice isn't given, the default is almost ALWAYS going to be male. You're going to be playing a boy, a male, XY, you has a penis or should at least. You got boy parts, 'arry, and don't matter if you actually would prefer to have girly parts (or no parts).
Does it matter to me? Yes it fucking does! Because being allowed to be the gender identify as is important to me (oops I did make it about gender equality, silly me) and for most of my life that hasn't been allowed. Because gen 1 pokemon automatically made me a boy and so did gen 2's silver and gold (in which baby me called a boy Sabrina and all was well in life). Because 'girls don't play video games so why should we give them the time of day?'. Because I'm a girl and only boys get to be assassins, warriors, sorcerers, heroes, gods, whatever they want.
Now do I abandon games just because they don't give the choice? Nah, because I'm a gamer and I love to game. So I'll play the boy trainer trying to catch em all, and I'll play the warrior who has to save his kingdom, and I'll play the assassin fighting a corrupt secret society, and I'll be the hero because it's all pretend. I have abandoned games for bait and switches (I'm looking at your ass Akiba's Trip you piece of shit game) but normally I just abandon games that didn't hold my interest or prove worth my time, and a lot of times I love playing as the male character (in Tales of Symphonia, a game with minor choice since you can choose which of the characters you control in battle, i prefer the male magical knights rather than the female healer, chakram user, ninja, or axe wielder).
But again at the end of the day, identifying as a gender that has historically been underrepresented by the industry, that still often gets underrepresented, the fact that pronouns exist means that I get the chance to actually be myself in a game. I get to be Crystal instead of Gold/Silver (ha pokemon manga jokes). I get to be Cassandra instead of Alexios. I get to be a kickass female high elf necromancer in Skyrim and I can be a female revived colonist from the lost Hope.
I get to be me. And that's what pronouns are for. Because they let us be us and that's what is important.
But in a game like, oh, Starfield an open world, yeah it should have them.
If you ignore open world games where you're playing as a defined character, yes. Like, y'know, GTA. The second most popular open world game series of all time, with the second best selling video game of all time, period.
(The first is Minecraft. Which does let you choose a the skin's gender, which changes absolutely nothing.)
. You're going to be playing a boy, a male, XY, you has a penis or should at least. You got boy parts, 'arry, and don't matter if you actually would prefer to have girly parts (or no parts).
So you're implying women having to play a pre-defined character who's a boy is a major gaming injustice (but not the other way around)?
Interesting.
You know many women actually like playing dudes, right? Look at the Persona fanbase. Or BOTW/TOTK.
Because gen 1 pokemon automatically made me a boy and so did gen 2's silver and gold (in which baby me called a boy Sabrina and all was well in life).
So you're complaining about the gross injustice of a game that will be 24 years old in a few weeks lacking gender options.
Nearly old enough to rent a car.
>Because 'girls don't play video games so why should we give them the time of day?'.
I agree. Those people you invented with motives you made up certainly sound sexist.
>I get to be me. And that's what pronouns are for. Because they let us be us and that's what is important.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm completely failing to see what any of this has to do with pronouns. Especially if pronouns are decoupled from gender and gender presentation, as they are in Starfield.
really the issue at hand here is very simple. annoyingly so.
a game just having the option to choose pronouns in it is not a big deal in itself. you're going to spend seconds on it, it's not going to majorly impact your gameplay experience in the long run. that's not the issue.
the issue is that the game developers felt the need to plug the single most obvious virtue signal for their - extremely controversial - political views into their game and rather than accepting that blatantly and absolutely needlessly taking sides in a socio-political debate, just for the sake of telling all your players that you've taken a side, in a video game, is a stupid fucking idea, the people defending the developers' choice to make absolute asses of themselves for political brownie points have elected to instead just screech how little impact the way they did it has mechanically at the top of their lungs until everyone stops pointing out how stupid of a choice it was.
Yeah. A game making you choose your gender isnāt a political statement because itās not controversial. A game making you choose your pronouns independent of gender is different and that is a political statement
I will say though, I feel like anyone saying they wonāt play the game because of this probably already didnāt want to play it and was just looking for an excuse not to. In my case this does make me not want to play the game, but I already know I didnāt want to and wasnāt planning to
No one is annoyed at this because it's 'just like choosing your sex.'
It's that it's a separate toggle from the male/female bodytype indicators (which piss me off to no end that they've started just calling them 1/2. Which does not always work for games which don't have clearly sexually dimorphic playable species [Dragonborn, BG3 I'm looking at YOU]).
It's that NONE of the NPCs in the vast majority of these games use this differing functionality.
It's that NONE of your main NPCs/Companions comment on the difference or, hell, have a plausible reason to intuit the choice.
Like Turtleduck said; it's point-scoring with the lowest hanging stupid fruit.
Plenty of women are working in the fields youāve mentioned, we just need for efforts to encourage girls to aspire to these roles.
Just as a sentence, this makes no sense: "there's already plenty of women working those jobs, that's why it's absolutely imperative that right now "we" engage in mass-propaganda campaign to brainwash little girls into thinking they want to work those jobs".
On top of that, your argument is once again rooted in the far-left ideological assumption that human beings are a "blank slate" that can - and should - be coerced by the state to get the outcome their specific political agenda wants, regardless of the wishes of the people under their thumb.
This is a belief about reality that has no basis in fact and actually runs contrary to everything we know about evolution and biology. Men and women are, self-evidently, not the same, and so for there to be universally-observable differences in the interests and fields males and females tend to gravitate towards is mostly the result of nature, and adaptation to basic immutable realities of life, not some fictional and invisible worldwide conspiracy to keep the wimminz down.
Also, feminism almost exclusively cares about the relative lack of women in white-collar jobs. Blue collar, which I suspect you mentioned, not so much.
I met maybe a dozen women in the 4 years I worked on construction sites, one was a dogman (person that runs around hooking shit up to the crane and making sure itās the straps balance the weight properly so nothing falls out while itās in the air), one was a roofer, both were good at their jobs. The rest were all traffic controllers that spent most of the time looking at their phones.
So glad that women started slowly waking up after all that abortion ban bullshit. It's really not worth the unpaid, unappreciated and hard work so that at the end you'll just end up raising a living monster who will continue torture women...
Bc men hate accountability and will rather self combust! Men abandoning and walking away from their kids but yāall will blame single mothers instead.
Funny how men raised by their fathers sill have higher rate of being violent criminals compared to women in every single country. The common denominator here are men. But men will blame all things but the men that commit crimes.
Also,
Funny how despite men having small chances of having custody, they make up such large position of murdering their childern. Imagine if more men got custody, the rate of children being killed will skyrocket. ļæ¼
Classic radfem trying to shift the blame on men by pretending that every single mother ever is caused by an absent father when the reality is itās more commonly a divorce that leads to the mother being given custody of the kids because of the bias of family courts in favour of women.
According to https://www.fixfamilycourts.com/single-mother-home-statistics/ 37.8% of single mothers are divorced and 41% never married (meaning they got pregnant to either a boyfriend or a one night stand/stranger) in 2004. It also states that 60% of rapists and 70% of juvenile murderers came from single mother homes
Many School Shooters are the Product of Broken Homes
This source proves them wrong on two counts, the rate of single fathers killing neglected children (from 2001-2006) is only 0.13% (859/661,129) (killed/neglected) vs 0.12% (1704/1,452,099) for single mothers. So the likelihood of a single father killing a child is only just higher than a single mother. Meanwhile the data collected from the same period show that of all single parents that abuse or kill their children āeither acting alone or in concert with someone other than the childās other parentā, single mothers make up 70.6% of cases of abuse and 70.8% of fatalities. So more men having custody of kids would have a very minimal impact on child fatalities.
The data providing these statistics are also cited in the source to have been taken from the US department of Health and Human Resources
Mothers are more likely to abuse children than fathers. Fact? | Child Protection Resource
So in summary, @redfemmayās response is completely wrong on all fronts, which is why thereās no sources to back any of it up
Men who abandon their kids are assholes (funny how people never talk about women that do the same) and the people that commit the crimes are obviously at fault. But to pretend that the parents (or in many cases parent) that arenāt raising their kids properly, especially when the statistics show that it is a factor, arenāt at least partly to blame so you can spew radfem propaganda is reductive and stupid, which is about what you can expect from a radfem.
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