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I feel like two Wings Of Fire characters that I never see anyone talking about together (despite the fact that they have Very Similar arcs) are Starflight and Peril. And it's easy to see why people don't necessarily think of them as similar, because in temperament, they are very different dragons, but they do have one very important trait in common, which is idolising the dragon they love, and using them as their most major point of reference in any kind of moral and decision-making situation.
Now, of course, the reasons for this vary: Peril is disastrously lacking in a personal moral compass, and she's also been despised and exploited her whole life--Clay is the first person to see her as anything less than a monster, and he wants her to be better, so be better she will. Meanwhile, Starflight is very self-loathing--he sees himself as a useless failure, who is incapable of doing anything right, either by the NightWings or by his friends--and he also happens to be horribly indecisive. Starflight loves Sunny, because she's everything he's not--she's hopeful and optimistic and brave and she makes things happen--and he figures by thinking 'what would she want me to do' will both help him make the right choice, and help him make the choice she'd approve of. Additionally, towards the end of their arcs, they both have a moment where they do something that they believe is the right choice, and actually have the thought that they did it and for once didn't consider whether or not it was the choice their crush would want them to make.
And it's interesting how it slots into their overall arcs--Starflight's is largely about overcoming his crippling anxiety and cowardice, while Peril's is about seeking connection, but they both have this throughline about growing beyond placing another dragon at the centre of their decision-making. In Peril's case, the idea is that she can be good and she can be loved without Clay--Clay is not the only person who will ever love her for her, and as a flow-on from that, she learns that she can make considerate decisions that may well be the right thing to do without asking herself what he would do in that situation. In Starflight's case, it's more that Starflight can be brave and take a lead and make decisions without being backed up by Sunny (or any of his friends for that matter), and--similarly to Peril--Sunny's approval should not be the be-all and end-all of whether he's done the right thing, or if he's a good dragon worthy of love. I think this actually ties really well in with how Starflight's love confession goes--because he isn't asking her anything, he's just telling her, and quite significantly, he's spent most of the book thinking that 'oh, I'd never actually tell Sunny I'm hopelessly in love with her I'll just think about it forever'. Telling her in this situation becomes more about Starflight getting it off his chest and making a decision to do something that he was deathly afraid to do, and less about needing her to love him back.
Anyway, I thought it was really interesting to compare Starflight and Peril's arcs, because they are really similar (and I love a good 'My worth is not in whether this person likes me' arc), and I've never seen anyone else bring up the similarities.
I do find it a little funny that The Hybrid Prince is kind of like 1984 but with gay dragons and a happy ending.
an animation that's fairly old but im still quite proud of. im probably never gonna finish it. i might try again someday, like i have at least 3 times already (this being the most recent attempt). feast, fellas
Starflight and Fatespeaker go on a little expedition during winter
A Darkstalker doodle because I read the graphic novel. I cannot believe they gave him a dorky little backpack that he wears to court like a student on a field trip. My favourite little disaster of a dragon.
Peril, Deathbringer, and the art of Public Perception.
These two character's are a great example of how you can have a similar duty and yet a wildly different reputation. Fundamentally the way they served for their individual tribes were the same: their roles were to eliminate dragons for their Queen. Both of them were raised to be killers that showed no mercy to their targets but, at the end of the day, both of them turned a new leaf because they fell madly in love with one of the (in)famous Dragonets of Destiny. Yet, in spite of the similarity in their actions, how they are perceived by others in the aftermath of their reformation (at least at the end of arc 1) is very, very different.
Deathbringer is seen by most to be a generally trustworthy, kind of arrogant and overly flirty but mostly harmless dragon.
Peril on the other hand, is viewed more as an unstable sociopath moments away from snapping and going on an unstoppable killing spree.
A large part of why their reputations are so different is due to the huge disparity in their ability to control their presentation towards others.
From the moment she was born, Peril was shown off to the world as Queen Scarlet's grand new weapon, 'her little monster' to be sicced upon the anyone who displeased her. Every order Peril was forced to follow was a violent spectacle designed by Scarlet to inspire others to fear Peril, and in turn, discourage any form of disloyalty in the advent of being thrown into the arena against the Queen's Champion. Peril never had a chance to talk with others without that reputation staining their conversation. Until the events of the books the only real relationships she's had is with her manipulative adoptive mother and an old historian, neither of which would have helped her to develop her social skills whatsoever. Then you have the final nail in Peril's proverbial social coffin, she is also a Firescales. Her very scales are an ever-present threat, un-intentional though it may be, that she cannot physically turn off that ensures everyone she ever meets will always be a little scared of her, even if she has no desire or motive to harm them. It's no wonder she had such a hard time navigating the social complexities of betraying your tribe when Clay first convinced her to help them escape, she barely even knew how to talk to anyone. Doubly so when it seems like the only outcome of said betrayal is potentially losing the first dragon that ever treated you like a person.
Cut to Deathbringer who, in spite of the grim work he was being trained to carry out from a young age, had a normal enough childhood for a Nightwing at the time, volcano notwithstanding. In direct opposition to Peril, any and all violence he commits for his tribe is done subtly, with the express purpose of going unnoticed by the public. Half of his role revolved around information control and it showed in how he was able to straddle the line between being seen as a loyal Nightwing all the while disobeying his orders in not killing Glory or the other dragonets. Only when he staged an active rescue with Clay did anyone catch on and even then he was able to twist his sentence into imprisonment instead of execution.
And so in spite of their shared role as killers for their tribe, in spite of both of them saving the dragonets of destiny on multiple occasions, Deathbringer is the only one of the two to be perceived as trustworthy because only he had the opportunity to learn how to downplay his own lethality.
All that is to say I think Peril was dealt a crappy hand and deserves all the hugs from Clay and Turtle. That and maybe Peril and Deathbringer could talk and even be friends perhaps? Commiserate over their awful childhoods and the complicated feelings they have toward their dead mothers.
Hi moot! I just read your comments on my fic The Scientists and I'm SO GLAD YOU LIKE IT!!! I know I'm not working with the most popular characacters, but I'm having a ton of fun writing them, so it makes me happy very happy that someone is having a lot of fun reading them! I'm hoping to get a new chapter up tomorrow :)
hell yeah!!!!!! Every time you write about some random obscure character know there is at least one rabid fan of said character (me or someone like me) who will absolutely rejoice the moment they see it
Super excited to see what's next in your story!!
I have excellent news for you then
also I would LOVE to hear about your Farsight headcanons and interpretations! I love characacters that are barely mentioned in the canon cause that means we all get to do different stuff with them :) If you ever publish anything I would love to read!!!
If it's interpretations of Farsight that you would like to see, then I can certainly deliver! :D
Even from the little that we see of her in canon Farsight is definitely an interesting character by premise alone. She seems to be very nice, kind, and caring, while stuck on an island that very much is not and has drifted away from those values in its culture as a result. She's the mother of Fierceteeth, who has a polar opposite demeanour, and her other child was taken away as an egg from the prophecy.
From what we get of Secretkeeper's testimony, she's also very forgiving, to the point that SK doesn't worry about Farsight maintaining hurt feelings after she says something cruel (and secretly hypocritical) to her in the Moon Rising prologue. My interpretation of this is that she's a people pleaser, to some degree, even if it hurts her. It would make sense given her circumstances: everyone is suffering, so she came to the conclusion to try to minimise the suffering of others. The state of affairs has also brought out a cruelty in some, and so trying to be as polite and nice as possible is also a possible response to avoid that.
It's possible to infer a bit more about her from her relationship with Mastermind. Mastermind is an interesting character in his own right, but what's most relevant here is that he is (presumably) well meaning yet temperamental and has very poor social cues. What exactly made them fond of eachother is hard to know precisely, but I definitely have my list of headcanons.
For one, Farsight was definitely smart. Mastermind probably wouldn't have had the patience to get to know her if she wasn't an academic equal or near-equal. I also headcanon that this intelligence was something she undersold about herself to appear nonthreatening because of her people pleasing tendencies, but it came out around Mastermind regardless because he has limited fields of interest and so things that required her to demonstrate it would come up in conversation. We already know she was forgiving and presumably patient as an extension, which would've made her able to navigate his quirks more easily. She must've also seen some traits in Mastermind that drew her to him-- the altruistic nature of his work and inventions (as mentioned in your fic!) was very likely one. I also like to think she was endeared by him being a bit of a dork and thinking that was sweet. And, having someone who she could let down some social barriers around (since they were meaningless to him anyways) is probably something she would find pleasant. The version of her that I imagine is definitely a likable personality. Very sweet.
One interesting thing about Farsight is, despite being remarkably kind and gentle for her circumstances, is that she definitely wasn't a saint. Her relationship with Fierceteeth seems to have had some very real struggles to it-- she was preoccupied with Starflight's egg when Fierceteeth was young, which led to some disconnection, which according to Fierceteeth's section in Winglets was never really recovered from. Fierceteeth had some childish jealousy over the attention going to the new baby, a fairly routine scenario, but then everything was complicated by the prophecy and the egg being taken and so it was never resolved like it should've been. The interpretation this implies for me personally is that there was some kind of favouritism involved, presumably subconsciously. We know very, very little about Fierceteeth's father, other than the fact that he died before she ever hatched. It's possible that Farsight's relationship with her daughter was either tainted by his death, or her relationship with him entirely-- it's all too easy for someone with people pleasing tendencies like hers to end up in a bad relationship. Meanwhile, Starflight's egg was something she was very attached to, to the point of being (by my reading) in denial about it being taken. Like, if Morrowseer is able to know that this egg will hatch precisely on the brightest night, anyone should be able to tell. (It is a massive plot convenience in WoF that dragon eggs have down-to-the-day perfectly predictable gestation, by the way, but then again most of the biology is like that. Needing a little extra suspension of disbelief is part of the charm!)
Farsight is also very, very full of potential when it comes to the sheer angst of her character. She's stuck in a kind of ambiguous grief that very few dragons around her would be able to understand for, as far as we know, the rest of her life after Starflight's egg is taken-- she knows he's somewhere better than where she is, or at least presumably is, but she'll never know his exact status or location or well-being or anything about him. He's alive, and so she'd feel bad for feeling so strongly (an 'other people have it worse' mentality) on top of feeling bad because. Her child was kidnapped for the greater good. The other parents of the dragonets of destiny had their eggs kidnapped, which they had to deal with, but there's a sort of knife-twisty-ness in Farsight's specific case because she knew it was coming, knew she couldn't resist for the sake of all of the NightWings' survival, had to do it "voluntarily", and still didn't want any of it. Unless she was really, really going through it with the denial that her egg would be taken it's toatlly possible that Starflight was never supposed to intentinally been a prophecy egg, but ended up perfectly in the time frame by coincidence. Which is uh. A gut punch and a half.
I will never get over the Moon Rising prologue, by the way. Secretkeeper really told Farsight that her honest and earnest attempts to consolidate her were inconsiderate and ignorant because she had two perfecly healthy dragonets, one of which being raised on the mainland, as an excuse to get away to make the hatching of her perfectly healthy dragonet who she faked a miscarriage / the egg equivalent thereof to deliberately raise on the mainland. Like, Fierceteeth was stuck on the island and it was in jeopardy if Farsight would even live to see Starflight one day. Secretkeeper had knowledge of Moon's wearabouts and general life existence-- sure she had to sneak away to see her but this was an arrangement she more or less chose. Like, Secretkeeper!!!! Girl!!!! You better have given a damn good apology, especially since it would be impossible to undo even close to all that damage without revealing your secret (which honestly might've pushed even Farsight over the edge into crashing out at her). And, based on the vague and rushed and weird canon timeline (again suspension of disbelief adds ✨ flavour ✨) , Farsight literally died not long after this. Secretkeeper and Farsight's friendship is very interesting to me because of the sheer "oh my god what the hell" factor that scene has. I also have the VERY evil headcanon that they're uh. Exes. And part of why Farsight has maintained attachment despite everything is because she hasn't fully gotten over it. They can be just as compelling platonically too ofc!
ANYWAYS, now for a more mundane, less depressing headcanon: Farsight's occupation! Yayyyy!! My current headcanon (not a particularly strong or defined one mind you) for what her job was is that she was a lookout, mainly because. Her name. She was looking far away or something. (Her name could probably also symbolize thinking about her missing child who was living somewhere far away I suppose? Just thought of that now.) It also sets her up to get killed by SkyWings a bit more obviously but disregarding that for now! Your interpretation of her being on the council is super interesting too, and it makes a lot of sense for her character-- especially the way you write her! I've also seen a fic where she fixed clocks for a living which is cool. A bit of a random choice but a cool random choice. I've also had an idea that she could be like a scribe sort of, recording information or something. It would fit with the 'smart but pushed to the sidelines' sort of thing I have going on with my headcanons for her.
Hopefully that was coherent! I am incapable of brevity as you can see here, and this isn't even absolutely everything if you can believe it. I have a few outlines sitting around for Farsight-centric stories to better show off my interpretation, but none are polished enough to see the light of day as of now. Ideally I'll be able to write and put out something to share more Farsight appreciation with the world in the near future.
TL;DR: Farsight is super interesting to me on a conceptual level, and I have a few ideas for her personality--mainly that she was a people pleaser, among other things--based on what is available in the text. She has compelling appeal, compelling shortcomings, and compelling angst. Also SECRETKEEPER IN THE MOON RISING PROLOGUE AHHHHHHHH
Unsorted WOF thoughts part 250:
It really does make almost too much sense for Sunny's book to be to the last in Arc 1.
The series has spent four books giving us every possible argument against fulfilling the prophecy. None of the protagonists thus far really wanted to be a part of it anyway, and they all have their own special moment where they say, "Fuck the prophecy, and fuck destiny."
The entire way through, Sunny grows more agitated in the background as the others constantly turn her down and dismiss her.
This all climaxes with the realization that there wasn't even a prophecy to begin with.
The entire series up to this point has been taking everything Sunny knows and smashing it into little pieces. And now she's left to pick up all the pieces on her own, in the span of one book.
In a way, Sunny did actually fulfill a prophecy of sorts. Not the literal Dragonet Prophecy, but Clay's prophecy from the first book.
He wondered if it was at all possible that they could finish the mission and end the war, in their own way.
Clay asked, the others disagreed, and then Sunny gave an answer. That's the structure of Arc 1.
You're so right!
Sunny's character arc is so good, in part, because she really does care about almost every dragon she meets. Again and again, Sunny choose to see the good in others even though doing so didn't benefit her whatsoever and was, more often than not, actively detrimental to her personal safety. But no matter how many times she was shown that other dragons didn't share her empathy, that those in power were callous and saw her own kindness as nothing other than naive and foolish, Sunny still furiously held onto the hope that dragons could be better.
Which is why it was so great that Sunny's own belief was what convinced her friends, and in turn the rest of the warring tribes, that peace was possible. Even when the prophecy proved to be false Sunny still put her faith in other dragons instead and I think that made her eventual success all the more rewarding.
something about this concept amused me enough to want to draw it. I'm sorry Sunny
Shamelessly making art of my own fic because I can. This is just a little exchange from chapter eight after Moon first rejoins the tribe in the rainforest. Darkstalker, as always, is a menace that advocates for sweet sweet petty retribution. You can find the fic: here (or if the link embed doesn't work: https://archiveofourown.org/works/59293489/chapters/151217005)
Like always, when something goes super wrong I go back to wings of fire. My og obsession. Clay was always one of my favorite characters. So when I read the first line in this image I couldn’t help but get inspired.
If yall have any other cool Clay quotes, tell me and I might change up the text
and heres yet another take on Clay
Casually mashing my interests together while simultaneously exercising my long atrophied art muscles. Just a cheeky little concept of what Survivor, Monk and Gourmand (from Rain World) would look like in Wings of Fire.
I think Survivor and Monk were the only two dragonets to hatch from a Mudwing clutch (whether or not the other eggs were accidentally crushed in the Succession war or it was just bad luck they don't know). They were barely scraping by as such a small sib-troop but eventually Gourmand ran into them and took them under his wing.
Gourmand does have his own sib-troop but he left them to travel around on his own so that he could gather up different recipes from all the other tribes.
Anyway next post will probably be back to my normal analysis but the muses told me to make a crossover today so...
While most Icewings in the outer villages away from the capital of the kingdom and the Great Ice Palace hold great reverence for the old animus Caribou and her Gift of Subsistence (the infinite seal pit that solved world hunger for the Icewings) I imagine all of the nobility in the upper circles view her with slight distaste for 'weakening' their tribe. A perception that only got worse once it became such a common name amongst the peasantry and as such became associated with those of a lower class. In time I think it became a bit of an insult within the first circle to 'accidently' call someone 'Caribou' when they mess up during a hunting trip or otherwise act in a manner unbefitting a dragon from the upper circles (i.e. showing sympathy).
While not explicitly offensive it has all the undertones specifically designed to insinuate incompetence in an upper class peer of yours without being too overt. I like to think that if someone called Icicle or Snowfall that once they would have seethed about it silently for weeks.
I love that the blood relatives of the Dragonets of Destiny act as a foil to show how our beloved arc 1 protagonists might have ended up had they not been stolen for the prophecy.
Reed is the bigwings of a group of siblings that he loves but he's ultimately stuck fighting in a war he hates, all the while feeling that the crushing responsibility of keeping all of his siblings alive rests on his shoulders alone.
Orca was headstrong and ambitious to the point where she felt the need to challenge her mother the moment she was physically able to just to get out of the suffocating thumb she was kept under. But just like her sisters after her, Orca ended up dead all the same.
Grandeur ruled well as Queen for many years but even her stoic vigilance was eventually worn down by the un-ending laconic apathy of the tribe she served.
Mastermind was intelligent, curious and genuinely interested in using science to understand the world and make it better for those that live in it but after years of starvation and propaganda he felt obligated to provide his tribe a solution regardless of the morality of the cost
Despite Thorn's best efforts to try and uplift the Scorpion Den into a refuge for those that want freedom from a meaningless war founded on the squabbling of power hungry royals, even she feels as though she has to get her talons bloody to keep those serving under her loyal and those working against her afraid.
While it was awful that they were stolen from their families and the upbringing they suffered through was terrible, as a group the dragonets of destiny were able to support each other to heights they would never had reached were they raised apart. Clay's heart, Tsunami's guts, Glory's cunning, Starflight's smarts and Sunny's spirit were all so fundamental in shaping each dragonet into the best version of themselves they could be.
I often wonder just how radical tribal loyalty is in Phyrria. Especially during the War of Sandwing Succession.
Webs threw himself on the mercy of a Queen he betrayed that was infamous for executing those that failed her on the chance that he'd be let back into his tribe.
The Scorpion Den received the same importance on the map as a royal palace purely by the strangeness of being a place multiple tribes co-existed.
No matter how much Deathbringer disagreed with his orders when faced with the threat of exile were he to disobey the assassin kept his mouth (mostly) shut and got to work.
Nearly every dragon the Dragonets of Destiny came across mentioned how weird the they are in their affection for one another as though inter-tribal bonds were a truly alien idea.
Maybe the real reason Dune didn't tell Sunny the cure for Sandwing venom and Webs didn't teach Tsunami Aquatic was because even though the guardians had forsaken their tribes to work for the Talons of Peace they still couldn't bear the thought of potentially leaking a tribal secret.
Maybe the reason not a single dragon even suspected that Sunny might be a hybrid in spite of how obviously different she looked was because hybrids truly are that rare in a continent dominated by tribal fanaticism.
I think it would be kind of a hilarious premise for Peacemaker to become the king consort of whoever Glory and Deathbringer's heir ends up being. For this to work Darkstalker needs to be gone without any caveats. No lingering memories. No secret shade in the back of Peacemaker's mind. No ceaseless desire to rule the world. That strawberry worked just as intended. Bonus points if Peacemaker is actively annoyed at the prospect of joining the nobility because the added responsibilities would encroach on his free time.
Not only would there be a huge helping of dramatic irony, Jade Winglet and the Dod could also all commence into a comedy of errors style panic in the background, wondering whether the spell is fading and this is just yet another grab for power. All the while the only thing Peacemaker is lamenting is the fact that if he marries into royalty he won't have as much time to focus on his gardening. That and the fact that his new mother-in-law keeps on sending him scary death glares.
More of a 'what if' than actual headcannon but anyway.