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RE Fabled Passage vs enemy fetchlands: Fabled Passage can only get basic lands. Enemy fetches can grab anything with a basic land subtype, leading to other problems with nonbasics with basic land subtypes.
A fine point.
Alternately it leads to fun play patterns with non-basics with basic land subtypes. I know that I was hype for the Eldraine common land cycle and their interaction with enemy pair fetchlands.
Will Zendikar Rising see a completion of a cycle of land creatures, like Dryad Arbor?
Major theme.
For anyone new to the blogatog, this is major sarcasm.
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for the love of karametra, guys, do NOT buy these fetch lands....!
Seconded. I will not be supporting ‘Secret Lair Ultimate’
no one should.
it costs wizards the same to do this or 5 basic forests..., they are charging WAY too much for this... and considering wizards say secondary market doesn't exist...
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt that secret lairs LGS ONLY? So by NOT supporting it, you give them a reason to say FU LGS?
tbh I don't care. If you buy this product, wizards will keep printing the needed cards with ridiculous prices as they did with this.
5 cards
you are getting 5 cards for about $165.
5 CARDS
Wizards have no reason to not peint this in the $40 range as previous secret lairs.
You buy this and wizards will say "so, printing cards for this ridiculous price is selling. Why reprinting them cheaper?" ans they will never do...
Unfortunately, a lot of "investors" (fucking cancer to mtg) will but all of these aviable... But as long as you don't... think about it, $165 can get you WAY more than 5 fetches... Wizards printing cards should be cheap, those 5 fetches cost them the same as 5 basic lands
$165 for a secret lair or:
1 Scalding Tarn $72 MM Reprint
1 Verdant Catacombs $65 MM reprint
1 Arid Mesa $34 MM Reprint
1 Marsh Flats $37 MM Reprint
1 Misty Rainforest $75 MM Reprint
For a total of 283 TCG Mid. So for 165, you can get 1 of each enemy fetch, and still have money left over for your other singles you buy for edh, or cheaper playsets for constructed. Secret lairs are NOTHING but cash grabs. Mythic editions are nothing but cash grabs. People will buy them cause as the math has pointed out, it is BETTER to buy these. People will buy them because they CARE about their LGS. People will buy them because they are new art work. And yes, there are others who will buy and resell. Cause thats capitalism. Companies care about profits, and at the end of the day, WotC is a company.
you don't get the point:
1) Wizards negates the existence of a secondary market, so, from wizards perspective there is no justification for those prices
2) Printing those cards cost to wizards the same as printing 5 basic plains
3) We need reprints that lower the price of existing cards
If people buy this, wizards will not have an incentive to put needed reprints in sets that lower their price, but instead keep putting them in products with ridiculous prices as this one.
This should had cost the same as the secret lair of the snow lands, even less as these are not foil.
Obviously, if you do the math you'll get a better price, but that's too far from the point. This secret lair only proves that wizards has their hands deep until their shoulders in the sexondary market and they just don't want to admit it. This and the absurd buyouts prior new reveals o new bans...
As I recommend, if you really need the fetches, ask your playgroup if proxys are okay and print them yourself. When the game is rigged so only people with money can play it, play against the player, not their wallets.
limit of 10 Secret Lair/LGS btw, so the prices will in fact not go down at all, if anything the prices of the secret lair versions will be higher than the other versions...for a company who said “we will never put a price on a card” wotc sure has changed their vision in the past year
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sexhaver said: the worst part is that because theyre only giving 10 boxes max to each LGS, they can probably find enough whales to sell off all the stock so us personally boycotting doesnt mean anything and WOTC gets to label it a success and repeat it next year
Yeah, it’s like they had a meeting about three years ago with the mission statement “Player Tumblhurgoyf has never been more engaged in this game and its characters and is buying and playing more than ever... what can we do to make them abandon this company forever?”
Just throwing in a thought, it's very likely that the Eldraine Wonderland Secret Lair last year was initially intended to be a Fetchland reprint but someone said "this price point is too low, cut it" and so we got a Milquetoast backup secret lair in that spot while they designed this box to at least pretend that the price point was reasonable.
I have a friend who strongly believes that people are selfish deep down and also believes that the role of government/society is to protect people from their own selfishness. What color(s) would you say they are based on this?
It’s pretty white in philosophy.
That's kinda "everyone is either black or red aligned so white needs to keep those monsters in check" it's a very white aligned notion, but also when someone says "everyone" they usually include themselves consciously or unconsciously. So there's definitely a creamy core of red/black in your friend.
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Ever since my dad lost to a Simic ramp player, I have made it my mission to bring back manaburn. How likely am I to succeed in this endeavor?
I’d call it a longshot.
Oh no, the odds are stacked against him, he has a tragic backstory, I've seen this movie before. Mana burn is coming back and I don't like it.
Why are "Time Walk" (take additional turn) cards not printed more often? Are they too powerful? Are they unfun?
It’s an effect you have to be careful with. We do make new ones, just not super often.
*Points at Nexus of Fate* Let’s just not do that again…
The thing about “Take an Extra Turn” spells is that they’re INHERENTLY free spells. We all know that any spell that costs nothing is super good, and any card that says “Take an extra turn” inherently says “untap all lands you control. This means ANY card that takes another turn is overpowered if you can reasonably cast it with lands alone. The only balance is the opportunity cost of it being so expensive you probably can’t cast it in a game and it’ll be a dead card in hand.\
See, lets take the basic Time Warp, it says…
3UU Sorcery Untap all lands you control. Untap all creatures you control. Draw a card. You get an additional attack phase this turn. You may activate each planeswalker you control an additional time this turn. See how that’s COMPLETELY NUTS?
Heck, you even missed "You may play an additional land this turn."
Yet another question about Yet Another Aether Vortex: Can an opponent control the top card of my library? If I draw a card and reveal Gilded Drake on top, when I exchange control, will the drake still be my top card?
The Gilded Drake gets revealed on top of your library. It triggers its “enters the battlefield” effect as it’s now on the battlefield thanks to YAAV. You exchange control between the Drake and a creature controlled by an opponent. They now control the Drake, but it’s still on top of your library. When you draw it, it goes to your hand, leaving the battlefield, and you regain control of it.
This is some evil bs. I absolutely love it.
Doing this with Sensei's Divining Top sounds like an excellent way to lose friends real fast.
If an opponent is unable to abide truthfully by what they said to a Frankie Peanuts question, do they have to prove that they couldn't? Like "Will you counter my second spell?" "Yes" but then they use their last counter on my first spell because it's too good. Would they have to reveal their hand when I run out my second spell and they had lied?
They only have to do a promised action if they are able to do it at the time. They don’t have to forego action to increase the chance of being able to do a promised action. If they say “yes” to “will you counter my second spell next turn?”, they are promising that if they are able to counter your second spell when you cast it, they will.
If their hand doesn’t have any countersorlls in it as they countered your first spell, well they weren’t able to do it. If they do have a counterspell with the mana to cast it when you cast your second spell, they are obligated to counter it.
I was just wondering if they would be forced to provide proof of being unable. Worrying for players that may just like to cheat.
"I don’t even know what that means." I think he's saying that asking for an Eldrazi Planeswalker is the quickest way to ask for "Something that mechanically behaves like a Planeswalker card (attackable, loyalty, loyalty abilities) with a strong Eldrazi-matters theme; no, we don't care if the creative makes sense."
The problem is we care if the flavor makes sense.
I asked a very similar but more nuanced question, and Mark choosing this one to reply feels like picking the best strawman to fight against…. Sure, reply to the guy who openly says “don’t care if it makes sense”, that will be a constructive discussion. [/sarcasm]
Disappointed…
Been there before honestly. I imagine that happens to someone somewhere almost every time an inelegant question is answered.
"Bolas and Ugin aren’t humanoid" I argue they very much are humanoid. They both have the typical humanoid figure - two arms with fingers and an opposable thumb, two legs, an upright torso, a head with a face with humanoid facial features, all in (or nearly) the basic human proportions. Azor was the only non-humanoid planeswalker we had, and we never even got a planeswalker card of him. I'd like to add my voice to the crowd that wants an active non-humanoid planeswalker.
I’m happy with people asking for non-dragon humanoid planeswalkers, but I think the “dragons are humanoid” argument is a bit silly. : )
Love when this comes up. Also, let’s go the opposite route for the naysayers. Here is what I think is perhaps the most humanoid art of Bolas:
There are some other contenders in this space, due mostly to the orientation of art for planeswalker cards, but that is NOT humanoid. That’s a crocodile standing on its hind legs.
BEHOLD A MAN
oh, another way to take this, give me a Bolas silhouette (I’ll even let you subtract the wings) and tell me which of these it matches
Try this one
"Bolas and Ugin aren’t humanoid" I argue they very much are humanoid. They both have the typical humanoid figure - two arms with fingers and an opposable thumb, two legs, an upright torso, a head with a face with humanoid facial features, all in (or nearly) the basic human proportions. Azor was the only non-humanoid planeswalker we had, and we never even got a planeswalker card of him. I'd like to add my voice to the crowd that wants an active non-humanoid planeswalker.
I’m happy with people asking for non-dragon humanoid planeswalkers, but I think the “dragons are humanoid” argument is a bit silly. : )
Obvious counterpoint should be obvious. Pre-spark Nicol Bolas is depicted very dragon-like, post spark Nicol Bolas suddenly gets a more scrunched face and humanoid shoulders and hands. As depicted on like... all of his modern art. Obvious cherry picking is obvious.
Hey, back to Theros for a moment, there were a lot less showcase style cards this set compared to Eldraine. Is this amount the new normal for showcase cards?
Two things:
1) We counted the Nyx basic lands as part of the showcase cards, so it’s as-fan is much higher than you might think.
2) It will vary set by set.
Well if you count the lands it's got a guaranteed as-fan of greater than one. But I was less worried about the rate of showcase cards appearing and more worried about the variety of them. Eldraine showcase cards were in part super exciting because of their variety which also lent to their rarity and value.
The difference between the white weakness of not being able to draw cards and the green weakness of being over reliant on creatures is that green's weakness needs to be exploited to be relevant, but white's weakness exists independent of other color's ability. What this means is that whenever creature removal falters for any reason or simply doesn't keep pace with green card draw, green runs amok. But white's strength or weakness is entirely centered on white cards. It's internal versus external
I’ve lived through times where everyone was worried about green because it was the weak color that didn’t have the strengths of the other colors. Color power ebbs and flows.
I'm very aware of this, but this is a fundamental problem. When green was weak it was because green didn't get enough card draw, and creature answers were stronger than creatures. White has had the same problem the entire time, but individually strong cards like Path to Exile hid white's weakness.
Now that black has rightfully retaken it's throne at the top of creature removal, and creatures as a whole have grown stronger, white has entirely lost it's niche. And as much as I utterly love the combo potential of the new Heliod (thank you play design and vision design), it doesn't really fix that white strength and weakness as a color are restricted to the strength of individual white cards.
I hate to continue on this discussion of white vs the colors, but Underworld Breach seems like a fine card for white to get that would be very powerful.
White couldn’t get the instants and sorceries.
And historically red shouldn't have been able to get the creatures. Why is this the bend you printed?
Mark, can you let Creative know that the current ratio of planeswalkers introduced on their home plane vs planeswalkers introduced on a different plane is widely disliked considering how disproportionate it is?
Let’s test this bold statement.
When we first introduce a Planeswalker, do you prefer meeting them
a) on their home plane
b) off their home plane
or
c) a healthy mix?
Please answer a), b), or c) and why,
This poll is a bit misleading MaRo, the asker said that the current ratio is disliked, not that there shouldn't be a mix at all. And also the answer C of "a healthy mix" is poorly defined what that ratio should be. Imagine if your audience primarily defined C) as "every walker outside the gatewatch should be from this plane", but you defined it as 50/50. Both you and your audience would expect the answer to be C, but you would still wholly miss that you are off base. If you had just left off C you would have gotten a more clear view of your audience's desires. To be fair to you, the asker was also unclear and hyperbolic.
However, to illustrate the asker's intended question, I went and gathered the information on the trend I personally have seen.
Looking at planes alone: This is where the trend is completely clear and this is what I think a subset of your audience finds frustrating. Eldraine, Ixalan, Amonket, Kaladesh, and Innistrad to boot, Five of the last Eight standard legal, non core planes have had one or more walkers from, on, and introduced in that plane. Furthermote Eldrane, Dominaria, Ravnica, Innistrad, and Zendikar were all homecomings for one or more walkers. Meaning every single plane, (and all but three non-core sets: AKH, AER, and EMN) we've been to since the major block change has had a walker from it, in it.
Looking at walker introductions specifically: This is more mixed as there are a dozen different ways to collect your data. I choose to exclude core sets and supplemental sets from the previous data because they frequently don't have a clear plane or a wealth of story, but this leaves a lot of grey area: walkers first introduced in supplemental sets or core sets that also made it into non core standard legal stories. Specifically Kaya, Nahiri, the Kenriths, Vivian, and kinda Ob Nixilis. Of these, if we ignore their previous introductions, the only the Kenriths were directly "introduced" on their home plane. Discounting those special cases there have been Eleven planeswalkers introduced in non-core standard legal sets. Six of those were introduced in and on their home plane. The odds go to Six out of Seven if you drop the four introduced in WAR, all of which have less story, smaller impact cards, and come from a set that beautifully bucks all the trends that magic had fallen into since Tarkir.
The greatest problem of this is that the sets are all extraordinarily similar in structure from a card standpoint and it seems that introducing a planeswalker from a plane other than the current plane is becoming the exception, rather than the norm or even a common occurence, which arguably means that you do not have a "healthy mix" going.
Now there is no doubt that all of these trends are far more muddled and mostly disappear when you include supplemental sets, but those are not your flagship sets, your driving story or your major focus. This really irks people who actually follow your stories but it also irks people who follow the trail of your story but mostly pay attention to the cards. Planeswalkers are planeswalkers, they go from plane to plane, and they only find out they are planeswalkers by leaving their home plane (excepting Huatli), they are excellent at being fish out of water, but they are also amazing as people who found their perfect home.
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Here is the information on the unofficial vote that made it clear that people want Pluto to be a planet. Pluto is not a planet, officially. NASA, Harvard-Smith, and Cambridge haven’t changed their definitions of Pluto.
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