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A theory on Dess's purpose (if she *isn't* the Knight).
This has often been a question of contention whenever DessKnighters and others clash; how is Dess going to figure into the plot of Deltarune? How will she be found?
I think I have an answer:
She won't.
Or rather, she shouldn't be.
I suspect that Dess will parallel, most closely out of any Undertale characters, *Chara*: I think she will only show up in the Weird Route.
The regular route's climax will already be nuts with Kris and the Player and the Vessel and Carol/the Knight (if Rudy is the Knight, which I believe, he's probably not the final boss) and maybe maybe some sort of animated darkness. I don't see Dess featuring or being saved as part of it, especially since I'm assuming the Knight's motivation is some desperate and clearly unhealthy plan to sacrifice everything to save/find her. I can't imagine she'd be a part of it.
The Weird Route, on the other hand, has been implied to come with some sort of reward which will somehow justify, from a certain point of view, the serious injury or deaths of Susie, Ralsei, Berdly, and countless Cyber World Darkners, as well as, crucially, the twisting of Noelle. At the very least, some tragedy is implied to potentially be averted that, due to the Sword Route, is likely not Ralsei or Susie dying. My theory is that the tragedy might potentially be the futility of the plan (maybe Dess is one or more Girl, and the prophecy speaks of her death, which everyone thinks is Susie's?), or, if not, then at least the Weird Route will have some sort of boon for Noelle. And what could be a bigger gift than the sister she's been missing?
Consider some additional evidence:
The Knight's position as the overarching antagonist so far most closely parallels Asgore; if the Knight is a Holiday parent, consider where Asgore's lost child appeared.
Noelle *thanks us* in the Weird Route, and remains at the center of it alongside the Player. I think fulfulling her desires, giving both of us what we would want most, her lost sister and, without a main route appearance, our biggest source of unanswered questions, would be a suitable emotional core to the WR climax.
And finally, regarding the prophecy, its price, and, in general, a reason to play the Weird Route; Dess has been treated differently from pretty much every other character, with the only similar one being Asriel. She's becoming a sort of object of fascination among the fandom; she already has discourse without dialogue or a confirmed appearance; I think there's a certain kind of interest in her that isn't replicated in any actually present character. I wouldn't do the Weird Route if it were the only way to save Queen or Lancer or Susie or anyone. I doubt you would either. But Dess is beyond a character. She's the question and the answer. She's everything.
In the genocide route, per the metanarrative, you just want to see what happens. In the Weird Route, you want something else. I think that's actually a someone.
So, yeah. That’s my theory for Dess's role, under the assumption that she isn't the Knight.
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we are now already in google doc conspiracy theory territory. these bitches really speed running this thing 😭
they are coping really well I feel 👍
I feel like this reply sums up how fandom largely treats women characters, specifically queer women, perfectly
oh. yeah. its like, real bad. people are also now theorizing that the finale wasnt actually a finale and theres a secret better finale being released soon. literally sherlock shit, theyre entering a psychosis LMAO.
but the lesbian shit makes me like, genuinely genuinely really mad. i know its typical fandom behavior but like, holy shit, you guys straight up dont see women as people. like, obviously thats mostly subconscious, but literally thats the root of it. you do not respect women on the same level of humanity and value as men.
friendtat and mikefriend has to be the funniest ship/theory combination ever. imagine finding out the old alter ego you've used like twenty years ago to trick some middle-aged gay marriage has been stolen by three tinfoilers working for one of the aformentioned gay men who have no idea what they're doing and are trying to find out who you are. and instead of following around the one dude who got it right (and is using you like a fursona??????) you instead choose to focus on the green guy who thought you were a microphone for some reason.
if that fuckass dead kid comes back i'm gonna turn alan becker's bones into jello
Bringing Gold would be such a disastrous writing choice from Alan that would invalidate the entirety of King's character and redemption. If Gold is at least some sort of brainwashed vessel/minion for the Ender-thing villain that needs to be put down then I'd accept it, but Gold actually coming back to life as himself would be horrible and prove Alan cares more about happy endings than actual good stories.
[ID: parody of the "Jaws" movie poster with Shok.wav and Alastor. The title is replaced with SHOK.WAV. /End ID]
Okay, I watched the Valentino drawing video, and... it's adorable. I've been thinking about it on and off since I've seen it... and I wanted to talk about something that nobody has really mentioned:
How drastically different Vox is in it?
Like, Val being actually sweet and wholesome with Vox and Velvette-- its a side of him we've seen glimpses of and he still has that god awful villain side of him wanting to see a guy getting run over, but his disposition with Velvette is so sweet? You can see why they're friends, and how well they get along with one another.
And that brings me back to VOX. Like, I knew he cared for the Vees. I knew he truly thought well of them, and looked out for them. But I was NOT expecting Tired Caretaker Husband Vox to walk in and start asking Val what he wants to eat. Like, his tone and disposition was so different, I didn't recognize who was speaking at first. I thought Val had a side dude he was fucking that walked in, until Vox said Val's name in that 'Vox is annoyed with him' way he does in season 1! Am I the only one whose jaw dropped as I listened to their wholesome and domestic banter?? I feel like this side of Vox is huge-- because it's (as the fandom has dubbed) 'Vincent' interacting with Valentino.
There is none of that usual posturing, none of the cavalier attitude he puts on for the audience, no facade, no manipulation- just raw and unguarded ease and comfortability. He literally sounds just like your average heteronormative boyfriend that just came home and found out you didn't eat all day.
He's tired, had a shit day, just wants some greasy ass food, but he's not going to go get anything until he's sure your ass is taken care of first. Vox literally starts fussing at Val that he needs to eat more, and points out he only nibbles on food before he gives it to the pet. Like- I feel like I'm going insane at this direct opposition of what we've been getting so far??
I can SEE the man Vincent could have been on Earth if he hadn't had his psychotic break; hell, the life he could have been already living outside of his Television Studio. I can see the wife he could have had, the little kid running around. He's so used to being a provider that taking care of his partner and keeping them on task is second nature to him. And I mean, he died around the 50s; the man being the core household provider was just the accepted norm back then.
Through this small little glimpse into the Vee's daily lives, we get to see how Vox probably was during those 7 years when Alastor was gone. Calm, chill, maybe a little grumpy, but he's a provider- and hell, he's GREAT at it?! He may have whined at Val at first, but he literally comes back with nachos AND wings for Val to make sure his fussy boyfriend eats. That's literally ridiculously thoughtful of him, for someone he's technically not even dating!
So, with this new side Vox... what is it about this 'strawberry-looking-pimp' that makes Vox lose his ever loving mind?
Because this difference that comes over Vox when Alastor is even mentioned is now actually terrifying with this comparison. Vox goes from a pretty chill guy and fantastic significant other- to a literal deranged psycho. It's so intense!
I know that Vox had deep feelings for Alastor in the past, and Alastor more or less shattered him into a million pieces... but it's just. It just makes no sense. One person holding so much power over you to nearly change your entire personality is just literally insane. Mind boggling; baffling. It just makes Valentino's little Yearning Wife moment is episode 7 make a little more sense.
Val is used to a man who... kinda treats him right? But when he's around Alastor? Oh no, he's racist, abusive, controlling, and neglects him and Velvette to completely focus on the weird red deer.
Val handles all of this... with a lot more grace than a lot of people would have, especially with how we KNOW his temperment to be.
it is so fucking hilarious to me that there's absolutely ZERO reason for alastor to be here in this scene. like vox could've just done this himself. he didn't even bring the other vees. he just NEEDED alastor to witness him capture lucifer like alastor was going to give him an A+ in villainy for doing this I'm crying
Vox carrying his own ragebait with him everywhere he goes is so funny.
I’ve posted this somewhere already but I know Vox was fucking ecstatic beginning in the 90s when the big budget documentaries about his life started coming out. The Vees have gotten so tired of him yanking them from their rooms whenever a new one releases. At this point, they probably know all the major "plot beats" of his life backwards and forwards, and can and will mockingly recite and act out Vincent's most famous monologues word-for-word every time they're shown. I feel like there's also a big Hollywood biopic coming out soon on Earth in the vein of 2022's Elvis and he has become SO fucking insufferable about it.
Vox raging and kicking his chair whenever a documentary gets something wrong about him
S2 Vox is so fucking funny. Genuinely competent, charismatic, and powerful, with the single glaring exception of losing his entire mind whenever he’s in a room with Alastor. So obviously he immediately cuts a deal which means Alastor will be in the room for every step of his grand plan. Psychosexual obsession barely covers this shit. Fucking amazing.
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