I had this idea in my mind for a long time, first I wanted to write a long fic, but the ideas didn't came to me, only the one "scene" I write for this fic and rather than force myself to write I let the idea flow and this is the result!
Anyways...
If someone is interested in reading it, there it is!
Then, when I was tagging the fic, I realized that Jon and Shireen don't have a face to face interaction jajajajaja!
I wish you good fortune in the wars to come (2624 words) by Yoliliztli
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: A Song of Ice and Fire & Related Fandoms, A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin, Game of Thrones (TV)
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Shireen Baratheon/Jon Snow, Shireen Baratheon & Jon Snow, Jamie Lannister/Brienne of Tarth mentioned, Aegon Targaryen (Son of Elia)/Margery Tyrell implied
Characters: Shireen Baratheon, Aegon Targaryen (Son of Elia), Jon Snow
Additional Tags: Implied Relationships, Secret Relationship, Broken Promises, Arranged Marriage, Alternate Universe, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, English Is Not The Author's First Language, and it shows, Kind Of, Aegon is kind of a d
Summary:
The Crown Prince eloped with another, now he has to talk with his former fiancée, as his father demands.
What make you think that there is something "between" Sandor and Sansa?
Someone asked me what make me even feel like there is something "between" Sandor and Sansa that goes over Arya and Sandor's dynamic and that make it..romantic. So here we are, i will share all i can think of about it, for myself and everyone interested in it.
It will be long and i will probably add more:
1. Maybe it is the fact that Sansa dreamt of a daughter like Arya and in the same book, I REPEAT IN THE SAME BOOK, few chapter away someone had the impression that Arya could easily pass as Sandor's kid. If this is not foreshadow i dont know what else can be.
In Sansa's dreams, her children looked just like the brothers she had lost. Sometimes there was even a girl who looked like Arya.
( A Storm of Swords - Sansa II )
"Come on then, we can have you across before dark. Tie the horse up, I don't want him spooking when we're under way. There's a brazier in the cabin if you and your son want to get warm."
"I'm not his stupid son!" said Arya furiously. That was even worse than being taken for a boy. She was so angry that she might have told them who she really was, only Sandor Clegane grabbed her by the back of the collar and hoisted her one-handed off the deck.
( A Storm of Swords - Arya IX )
"They have steel now, good swords and mail hauberks, and they watch the high road—the Stone Crows, the Milk Snakes, the Sons of the Mist, all of them. Might be you'd take a few with you, but in the end they'd kill you and make off with your daughter.” I'm not his daughter, Arya might have shouted, if she hadn't felt so tired.
(A Storm of Swords - Arya XII )
2. It could be the fact that Ned promised to Sansa to find her a man that was described with three specif qualities :
“When you’re old enough, I will make you a match with a high lord who’s worthy of you, someone brave and gentle and strong.”
( A Game of Thrones - Sansa III )
Yet the only one man that, in the 5 books we already have, ever was described by Sansa with those words is Sandor.
‘I should have come to you after,’ she said haltingly. ‘To thank you, for… for saving me… you were so brave.’
( A Clash of Kings - Sansa IV)
The Hound gave her a push, oddly gentle, and followed her down the steps.
( A Clash of Kings - Sansa II )
“A stab went through her, so sharp that Sansa sobbed and clutched at her belly. She might have fallen, but a shadow moved suddenly, and strong fingers grabbed her arm and steadied her.”
( A Clash of Kings - Sansa IV)
i love the post that @qveenofthorns made about it, the take is really well articulate and exhaustive, thank you :
3. It could be the fact that they share marriage's symbolisms from all over Westeros's traditions. Sandor not only is the last one still standing during the Hound's tournament, which often rappresent the win of the hand of lord's daughter, but he even gave his cloak to Sansa, which is traditionally part of the marriage's protocol in Westeros, and Sansa not only keep it but preserve it in her cedar chest. Sandor and Sansa are not wildlings yet one of their most intest scenes is about Sandor trying to kidnapp Sansa with a knife at her throat..as wildlings do for tradition.
"Is the Hound the champion now?" Sansa asked Ned.
"No," he told her. "There will be one final joust, between the Hound and the Knight of Flowers."
But Sansa had the right of it after all. A few moments later Ser Loras Tyrell walked back onto the field in a simple linen doublet and said to Sandor Clegane, "I owe you my life. The day is yours, ser."
(A Game of Thrones - Eddard VII)
Sansa said, "I knew the Hound would win."
(A Game of Thrones - Eddard VII)
"Someone give the girl something to cover herself with," the Imp said. Sandor Clegane unfastened his cloak and tossed it at her. Sansa clutched it against her chest, fists bunched hard in the white wool.
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa III)
The night of the battle, Sandor Clegane had come to her chambers to take her from the city, but Sansa had refused. Sometimes she lay awake at night, wondering if she'd been wise. She had his stained white cloak hidden in a cedar chest beneath her summer silks. She could not say why she'd kept it.
( A Storm of Swords - Sansa I )
@bighound-littlebird made a great meta on this some time ago : https://www.tumblr.com/bighound-littlebird/626455129788481536/do-you-think-sansa-putting-sandors-cloak-in-her?source=share
"A man can own a woman or a man can own a knife," Ygritte told him, "but no man can own both. Every little girl learns that from her mother." She raised her chin defiantly and gave her thick red hair a shake.
(A Storm of Swords - Jon V)
He gave her arm a hard wrench, pulling her around and shoving her down onto the bed. "I'll have that song. Florian and Jonquil, you said." His dagger was out, poised at her throat.
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa VII)
4. It could be the fact that Sandor romanticize Sansa and that night with Sansa like she does even if he is aware of it:
“Well, maybe it does, but I saved your sister’s life too. The day the mob pulled her off her horse, I cut through them and brought her back to the castle, else she would have gotten what Lollys Stokeworth got. And she sang for me. You didn’t know that, did you? Your sister sang me a sweet little song.”
( A Storm of Swords - Arya IX )
I took the bloody song, she never gave it.
( A Storm of Swords - Arya XIII)
5. It can be the fact that even if far away she seems to connect protection and safety to him progressively passing from being scared of him and for him to wish he was with her to her immediantly assuming - even if for a second - that the man that is protecting her must be Sandor even if he is far away :
She was afraid of Sandor Clegane...and yet, some part of her wished that Ser Dontos had a little of the Hound's ferocity.
( A Clash of Kings - Sansa IV)
I would be gladder if it were the Hound, Sansa thought.
Harsh as he was, she did not believe Sandor Clegane would let any harm come to her.
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa V)
I wish the Hound were here.
(A Storm of Swords - Sansa I)
"Lord Petyr said watch out for you." It was Lothor Brune's voice, she realized. Not the Hound's, no, how could it be? Of course it had to be Lothor...
(A Storm of Swords - Sansa VI)
6. It could be even the fact that when GRRM wrote Sandor biggest parallel his first thought was to give him his own Sansa. Expecially when he is fully aware that his fanbase over analyze his works to find foreshadows and he likes to play wit it:
💬 0 🔁 4 ❤️ 22 · After how many coincidences can we speak of a clue? · Because it seems to me that 10 canonical similarities are a clear re
7. It could be the fact that every Sansa's parallel has her own Sandor too.
💬 2 🔁 6 ❤️ 39 · I was thinking about the fact that Catelyn compare Sansa to two girls, Brienne of Tarth and Mya Stone, and both seems to c
8. It could be the fact that they seems not only to not being able to stop thinking about each other even if far apart and they seems so tied to each other to be able to answer to each other question even if far a part :
She wondered what had become of Sandor Clegane. Did he know that they'd killed Joffrey? Would he care? He had been the prince's sworn shield for years.
(A Storm of Swords - Sansa VI)
"The little bird flew away, did she? Well, bloody good for her. She shit on the Imp's head and flew off."
(A Storm of Swords - Arya XIII)
9. it could be the fact that Sandor look like a northern man even if he from the south while Sansa look like her southern mom even if she is from the north.
💬 7 🔁 8 ❤️ 43 · SANDOR IS SANSA'S NORTH IN SOUTH! · When people talk about Sandor and Sansa's mutal bond, PLATONICALLY OR ROMANTICALLY, th
10. It could be they both seems to be keep a new identities before return to themselves.
"I am Alayne, Father. Who else would I be?"
(A Feast for Crows - Sansa I)
I am not your daughter, she thought. I am Sansa Stark, Lord Eddard's daughter and Lady Catelyn's, the blood of Winterfell. She did not say it, though.
(A Feast for Crows - Sansa I)
The Hound is dead, and in any case he never had your Sansa Stark.
( A Feast for Crows - Brienne VI )
"It is true, then," she said dully. "Sandor Clegane is dead."
"He is at rest." The Elder Brother paused.
( A Feast for Crows - Brienne VI )
11. it could be the fact that among all the "not knights" he was the only one that acted as one to her.
The silence went on and on, so long that she began to grow afraid once more, but she was afraid for him now, not for herself. She found his massive shoulder with her hand. "He was no true knight," she whispered to him.
( A Game of Thrones - Sansa II)
I like dogs better than knights. [..] A hound will die for you, but never lie to you.
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa II)
Only Ser Dontos had tried to help, and he was no longer a knight, no more than the Imp was, nor the Hound.
the Hound hated knights . I hate them too, Sansa thought. They are no true knights, not one of them.
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa III)
She even sang for Tyrion the Imp and for the Hound.
He is no true knight but he saved me all the same, she told the Mother. Save him if you can, and gentle the rage inside him.
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa V )
12. It could be the fact that she changed him in so many ways that he started to belive that he could be her knight even if no knight really exist:
"True knights protect the weak."
He snorted.
"There are no true knights, no more than there are gods. If you can't protect yourself, die and get out of the way of those who can. Sharp steel and strong arms rule this world, don't ever believe any different."
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa IV)
"I could keep you safe," he rasped. "They're all afraid of me. No one would hurt you again, or I'd kill them."
(A Clash of Kings - Sansa VII)
13. It could be because Sandor "died" while talking about her as, supposedly, Rhaegar did for Lyanna :
I wonder, my lady . . . what do you hope to find there?"
"A girl," she told him. "A highborn maid of three-and-ten, with a fair face and auburn hair."
"Sansa Stark." The name was softly said. "You believe this poor child is with the Hound?"
(A Feast for Crows - Brienne VI)
The Elder Brother had no doubts that the girl with auburn hair that could be with Sandor was Sansa Stark..which mean that Sandor talked about Sansa with him.
14. It could just be the fact that George Raymond Richard Martin deeply love The Beauty and the Beast and Sansa and Sandor's dynamic resemble it. On @azulolivart 's post you can see in more details :
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🎼 Lyrics in caption are from the song “We’re Gonna Hold On” by George Jones and Tammy Wynette ❤️ I’ve always thought that Nedbert are very George and Tammy coded, which is why I used lyrics from one of their legendary duets to caption this. The entire comm itself is based on a picture of George and Tammy with their daughter, which I’ve included under the cut below! ☺️
i never saw this angle before why is nico double cheeked up like that. checo considering if he can truly handle all that ass (the answer may surprise you)
One thing that caught my attention in the King of Scars duology was the idea that, under Nikolai and Zoya, Grisha children were no longer required to study at the Little Palace.
The notion was all but presented as The Darkling being this monster who, on top of other things, ripped children away from their families and made them soldiers.
The show perpetuated this in a way, with Alina asking if anyone ever tried to escape the palace within the first few hours of getting there, despite it clearly being a comfortable environment.
Let’s discuss this;
Zoya’s dream for Grisha to have the option of being something other than fighters, though a noble one, makes absolutely no sense during an active war with Fjerda and Shu Han, which continued after the Fold was destroyed and is still very much happening in the King of Scars.
Grisha weren’t soldiers because Aleksander needed an army - they were soldiers because the Tsar needed an army.
Ravka was established as less advanced in military technology than both their enemies. Grisha were said to be their best weapon and the only thing evening the odds a dozen times throughout the original trilogy.
The Second Army being a necessity was the only thing that kept Grisha safe under Alexander III Lantsov and his predecessors.
The Ravkan people are not shown to be in any way morally superior in their understanding or acceptance of Grisha. If anything, a lot of people were shown to be afraid, spiteful, and bigoted.
Aleksander made Grisha lives matter in Ravka and he built a safe haven for them.
In the show, Genya notes that the Little Palace contains everything a Grisha might need in order to thrive. We see time and time again that they have the best tents, food, equipment, and education available.
King of Scars notes that the families of Grisha children received a hefty salary and Zoya’s backstory makes it clear that being taken to the Little Palace is what saved her life.
Her mother wanted to marry her off to an old man when she was nine years old, but once they discovered her powers, she was untouchable - because Aleksander made it so.
He made certain that Grisha children have a place where they can develop their skills and remain safe from prosecution.
The Darkling provided for his people.
You can hate him all you want, but give credit where credit is due. Painting his contribution to the Grisha in a bad light for making studying at the Little Palace and military service mandatory is ludicrous.
How do you think Alina and Mal found themselves in active service at the ripe ol’ age of seventeen?
Maybe because being drafted during an active war doesn’t really have anything to do with being Grisha or otkazat'sya?
Furthermore, what kind of life could a Grisha child even have outside the Little Palace? How would they practice? How would their families keep them safe?
Grisha need to use their powers in order to live. Alina didn’t and she was physically ill because of it.
The Little Palace is where they can hone their skills in a controlled setting, without fear of prosecution or negative attention.
Even places that accept them, like Ketterdam for example, don’t value them.
Aleksander created the only known place where Grisha were able to live up to their full potential, but please do tell me again how he cared only for his own power and did nothing good in his life ever.
Very good points. It was in the end of R&R that it was first said the Grisha wouldn’t have to go to the Little Palace if they didn’t want to and what always struck me on top of that was that there was also the comment in the same chapter that Nikolai hoped to be able to abolish the draft in ‘a few years’ for the First Army. Which sounded to me like another reason those prejudiced against Grisha would be angry - non-Grisha still get drafted into the First Army for now and the Grisha, already having a FAR nicer lifestyle in the Second Army than non-nobility would in the Firat, have a choice about whether they’d even choose to be trained. Also there was no reason put forth about why Nikolai might be able to end the draft that quickly, which made it sound unlikely to pan out on that timeline. They were at war and had been for over a hundred years. The Fold being gone wasn’t going to mean instant address of all the things that put Ravka on an uneven footing with Fjerda and Shu Han.
Great point! The other thing that stood out to me was that the Fold was actually stopping Ravka’s enemies from invading. Like, yeah, it was horrible that Ravka was torn in two and had to rely on regular supplies from the West to survive, but it also made any plans from Fjerda and Shu Han to invade patently ridiculous. Even if they were invaded, how were their enemies supposed to keep hold of Ravka without relying Grisha power to get supplies across the Fold? The volcra and the unsea would become their problem.
If anything, with the Fold gone at the end of R&R, it was essentially open season on Ravka, especially in a time of such poltical turmoil and the aftermath of civil war. That would have been the best time to invade Ravka, imo.
all of these are such great points! i know i already posted a (long) response to the original post but i mean all of these are so valid.
@dreamsatdusk i completely agree with your point. i feel it would have just added to overall prejudice towards the grisha.
also, like @serpenteve the fold was literally a good defence. it protected ravka so much, and with fold gone that protection disappears and none of the base problems (w the shu han and the fjerda are properly solved) and i can’t imagine that one the other countries would just actually (they may say they will) drop their persecution of the grisha. aleksander may have gone abt the wrong way, but having the fold as protection was actually the right idea.
Honestly, there are a few things that came to mind as I read the book, and a friend who was also reading/watching with me agreed that they’re frankly sort of bizarrely overlooked as part of the world building:
Grisha children can’t afford to not be weaponized. As much as Baghra is right that a lot of them aren’t meant to be warriors, Aleksander isn’t wrong that they need to be able to defend and fight for themselves because the show quite frankly tells us nobody else is. Aleksander did the math and realized he could create his army and give Grisha an army if he sold it to the king as an army serving the crown. What other way could he possibly get his people power otherwise? What are the chances he hadn’t tried a bunch of other things that he had to wait four hundred years to finally get a Little Palace built? (I’m also going to point out, his thinking is also very similar to the kind of hypervigilance you see in trauma victims. He’s also…not really wrong.)
While there is a hint of the narcissism in his ranting to Visser about taking children from his palace, it’s clear that in his mind, Aleksander thinks he is the one in the best position to protect the Grisha and teach them what they need to survive. I mean…as problematic as it may be to take the children from the parents, if what Ivan says is true and being Grisha was a death sentence, what the hell chance did a peasant family have of protecting their children? Who else offered protection? Yeah, the one family escaped to Ketterdam with her child, but we meet two Grisha in Ketterdam, and what are they? One was a prostitute in danger of being killed during the events of the story, and the other was Nina who literally gets sold out by her own countrymen to the enemy. Within her own country’s borders. Holy shit.
Why aren’t more Grisha in the novels taken with the idea of Aleksander as a saint? Why did it take until the duology to reveal there’s a splinter group that credits him with putting the Grisha back into power? (And are they wrong? Would the world have accepted a Grisha queen without all of the mess he created previously?) If he’s immortal, that means he has to move on every few decades to keep his existence from being detected. The Little Palace is clearly something he’s been building to for awhile, but other Grisha wouldn’t know that. They just know this dude came along, built an army and got them a palace and a good life all within the span of 20-30 years. (And this is really stretching it for the book. At least show Alexander looks believably forty-ish with a beard.) Like…wouldn’t you think that shit was the second coming?
Something that actively bothers me about the Darkling in the second and third book is that he’s supposed to be this big, scary villain who’s manipulative and cunning…but she made him kind of an idiot. His maneuvers make no sense, not militarily and not politically. Like, the smartest dictators have an idea of how far they can’t push the line before the people strike back. You’re telling me Aleksander, a man who has witnessed generations of kings, who has had time to study the nuances of power and what kind of structures work in place, couldn’t run a country fairly effectively? What we see in the two books is frankly not even remotely scary because there’s just absolutely no way he wouldn’t have a massive rebellion on his hands after a few years. If you wanted to make him scary, make him competent. Make him a dictator that knows how to kill just enough people to make a statement but also knows that keeping a country at heel means keeping their bellies full even as he bleeds the nobility to fill the coffers. Show me a king who uses the Fold strategically to create beasts that roam along the border and give the small villages there their first taste of peace, making them reconsider Grisha. It’s just reads as throwing the darkest shit she could throw at the wall to make him evil and boring so we wouldn’t think a redemption plot is coming, even though there’s plenty of reason to see him as a problem because of his supremacist views toward non-Grisha. But then…
That taps into the problem with Alina’s journey. Why isn’t her journey about accepting responsibility AND recognizing the conditions that made Aleksander who he is? I mean, don’t redeem him, that’s fine, but maybe…your heroine should be better? She should see where they need a united society because she’s been on both sides of the Grisha/non-Grisha divide. That should have been her moral driving goal by the end. Understanding Aleksander so she could take up the mantle and do it the right way after.
It makes me so angyr B*rdugo tried to even demonize Aleksnader for trying to protect the Grisha by building the Little Palace for them.It’s not like they’re not a presecuted group that are constantly murdered/enslaved/experimented on.And don’t get me started on how not making the Grisha train as soldiers in the mids of a civil war makes sense at all.
I swear it’s like B*rdugo has completely forgot that the Grisha are a presecuted group taking care of that insipid oprhanage,ugh.
billyblackbirdrusso:
Was it said that when Aleks was in charge that they couldn’t communicate with their family? Like did he not let them send letters because I don’t think that’s the case. They want to act like everything he ever did was just pure evil. The Grisha would not be where they are today without him.
Also it is really dumb to abolish the Grisha draft but not the first armies. They are just adding to the problems the Grisha face.
yototothelalafell:
My mind boggles at the idea of leaving untrained magic users loose in the wild. It’s bad enough with elemental magic, but think about heartrenders. An emotional teenager could accidently kill someone. Maybe if she had abolished the Little Palace and set up regional Grisha schools I’d find that idea a little more reasonable.
mcheang:
I agree. I disliked how the twins compared the Darkling to the Taban queen. He doesn’t torture his Grisha…
tazerpagan:
This this this!! I’ve been going a little crazy over how aleksander is depicted as this evil kidnapper denying grisha their freedom, when the ‘freedom’ in question is. literally being hunted for sport? like yeah conscription sucks but yknow what else sucks? when the king decides your people are more threatening than useful
starksholmesless:
LMAO THIS IS SO FUNNY. Yeah I think taking children from their homes against their will is actually a very good thing. Also implying that grisha only use their powers at the little palace is stupid. Grisha use their powers whenever they want, they dont need to be trained. How is giving people a choice about how they live their life worse than being forced to do something. Please examine your priorities
fateme24:
@starksholmesless First of all, you somehow missed the point of the op entirely. Second, “Grisha use their powers whenever they want” well yes, “they dont need to be trained” wrong. Tell that to Jesper and Hanne. Especially someone like Hanne (a Corporalnik) who could accidently hurt someone or even themselves. Or even a Summoner (imagine an inferni accidently setting everything on fire).
So yeah they DO need to be trained and they DO need to learn how to use their powers properly. But I agree separating children from their families isn’t ok. But the thing is, the Grisha don’t really have the luxury of that choice either, considering they’re not even safe inside Ravka, not really. Also, the Little Palace is a school. Now normally you PAY to get into a school but the Grisha’s families GET PAID for it and they themselves get to live in a palace and are provided, they can study and learn how to use their powers. And then they’re secured with a job too. All of this granted to them while living in a war torn country that isn’t really safe for Grisha actually sounds like a dream tbh. And all of that is possible thanks to the Darkling. So painting him as some sort of monster who separates children from their families is unfair. And that was the point of this post.
juneisafantasyaddict:
@starksholmesless did you completely miss the part where Grisha get killed just for existing? Did you miss the part where Fjerda kidnaps and murders them, and Shu Han experiments on the them? The Little Palace and the Second Army are literally the only safe places for Grisha to thrive. Lmao! Did you not read the books or watch the show? 🤣🤣🤣 also, you don’t think children with extraordinary abilities should receive proper training?? When those abilities could hurt them or other people?
Back to how “safe” is letting the kids stay home with otkazat’sya families:
Mean, angry or just emotional baby Grisha wouldn’t be danger to anyone, not even themselves. I’m so glad they can stay home, unsupervised by adults with similar powers.
I actually managed to block Zoya’s first jab, but not the second. It caught me hard on the jaw and my head snapped back. I tried to shake it off.
…
I stepped to the side, and as she came in close, I hooked my leg around her ankle. Zoya went down hard.
The other Summoners broke into applause. But before I had a chance to even register my victory, Zoya sat up, her expression furious, her arm slashing through the air. I felt myself lifted off my feet as I sailed backward through the air and slammed into the training room’s wooden wall. I heard something crack, and all the breath went out of my body as I slid to the ground.
basically adult Zoya in Shadow and Bone
Nina had been scared, but more than anything, she’d been angry. Curled up on the floor, she’d felt something in her shift, a long, luxurious stretch, like a cat yearning toward a sunbeam. All her breathlessness and fear rushed out of her, and it was as if she could feel Tomek’s lungs as they expanded, contracted. She squeezed her fists tight.
“Look how—” Tomek hiccuped. Then his friends hiccuped. It was funny. At first. They stopped poking Nina. They looked at one another and giggled, the sound broken by startled little huffs.
They kept hiccuping. “It hurts,” said one, rubbing his chest.
“I can’t stop,” said another, bending double.
It went on that way, all of them hiccuping and moaning long into the night, like an assembly of discontented frogs.
Nina found she could do all kinds of things. She could soothe a crying infant. She could ease her own tummy ache. She could make Tomek’s nose run and run and run until his whole shirt was wet with snot. Sometimes she had to stop herself from doing anything too terrible. She didn’t want to be a tyrant too. Only a few months later, the Grisha Examiners had come to the foundling home and Nina had been taken to the Little Palace.
King of Scars, and we can be glad she “just” made them hiccup. (Even that isn’t healthy, but it sounds fun, right?!)
And then we have Baghra killing her sister in a fit of rage at the age of six…
So “Yeah I think taking children from their homes against their will IS actually a VERY GOOD THING.”.
Alina in 100 years crashing out because she finally understands Alexander, and he's not there to be with her through forever because she killed him. And she knows she can't do it alone. Just like he couldn't. And his words are bouncing around her head taunting her because she can't remember his voice.
just the idea of like saying “achilles is bisexual representation!!!” is crazy to me. in addition to being the lover of patroclus he also kidnaps and rapes women!! like. i understand some people have not read the iliad but in what world would you even think
catelyn: *stares at sandor whose hair is matted, his body unwashed for three days, clothes tattered, and a scowl permanently etched on his burnt face.*
