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Stop trying to tell me I have ADD you pricks
If you are an adult who identifies with the concept of Gifted Kid Syndrome and:
You have an unusually intense reaction to the concept of rejection, whether personal, professional, or academic
You have consistent trouble meeting deadlines
You have big dreams and ambitions that are completely achievable, but you consistently can’t take steps toward achieving them and you don’t know why
You procrastinate, like a lot
You like video games, like a lot
You switch seemingly at random between binge watching your favorite shows for absurd lengths of time or not being able to sit down and focus on them unless you’re doing something else at the same time
You cannot for the life of you keep your living area clean and organized
You struggle with substance dependencies, whether with alcohol, tobacco, weed, harder drugs, or even just caffeine
You struggle with texting/calling/emailing back, even for people you care about deeply and/or even for important deadlines
Please, please, please consider seeking out an ADHD evaluation.
I’m not a psychiatrist or any kind of a medical professional, but personally I can’t help but notice how many elements of what I was perceiving as personal failures before my diagnosis stem directly from my executive dysfunction. Meds and an adequate support system can make a world of difference!
Just some advice from your friendly neighborhood nonbinary-mom-friend blogger!
...these are all seriously signs of ADHD?
You’re kidding
Not even a little bit.
Why do you guys have so much decent commentary on like child abuse but when the subject of former “gifted kids” come up you constantly act like the sum of the issue is an attack on the struggles of the former normie kid population, forgetting the importance of this “nuance” you all speak of. Some former “gifted kids” have narcissist tendencies but I can assure you many of the ones complaining about depression and the threat of emotional terrorism at the idea of failure from the adults in their lives aren’t trying to say the r-words had it easy lol they’re articulating child abuse. Anyway. Don’t drag me I was an r-word who was Gifted Kid Passing so you can’t cancel me without a fight.
Kids get terrorized by their parents for failing in this dumb ass school system. Some statistics show that kids are more likely to be abused when they bring home “unfavorable” report cards over the weekend. Many kids are taught that their intelligence or their performance in school is the most important part of their identity. Getting good grades pleases their parents, their teachers, and basically every seriously authoritative figure in their life. It is easy to see how kids who do not perform up to these ridiculous expectations are broken down. I guess some of you have a hard time with “gifted kids” complaining because they somewhat had a defense mechanism against this onslaught. But their ability to survive it is in itself an injustice. Kids shouldn’t feel compelled to barter for a half-maybe-somewhat bearable existence from the adults in their lives by bringing home good grades. Kids shouldn’t be emotionally pressured into valuing these numbers as the primary markers of their own morality and approval from the people who should be nurturing them. Kids shouldn’t fear failure. The approval that “gifted kids” may receive is often tainted by the specter of abuse, abandonment, or a negative change in the relationships they have with their parents. Kids, no matter how they perform, are forced to navigate this dynamic. It is an injustice no matter what their results are. There is a common denominator here and that is an institutional failure of the education system and the lack of protections/rights for children, among a host of other things. Former “gifted kids” may be clumsily trying to articulate this, some may feel a false sense of entitlement, but generally they are not your enemies! Yall are getting bopped by the same system but reducing it to petty playground spats smh. Anyway sign my Lisa Frank yearbook.
Hey friends, it’s been a while. Apologies!
I’m throwing some tendrils to the wind to do a quick interest check.
Who wants to see the blog active again?
Who would be interested in an actuallygt discord server (complete with pronoun roles and potentially - roles for additional bits of info for users who want to share it - want to share that you’re actuallyadhd too? ask for a role!)? I happen to have one I got halfway through setting up, sitting in limbo on my discord, ready to be put into use should it be something others find useful.
Alternatively, and perhaps the idea I like more, is if the discord were a general discord for neurodivergent folks of all walks, not just GT folks. What do you all think of it? actually___ roles available for members, for whichever of the communities you wish to have them for.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Info I should really look into getting posted up on that blog? Toss them my way!
Admin Shan Cade
(P.S., I’ve changed my sign-off, but it’s still me! I just have changed the nickname I go by, and also have changed to they pronouns - but if you slip or use she pronouns once in a while I won’t hold it against you.)
Best wishes, friends!
The ultimate--and unspoken--"gifted problem"
In the gifted community, it has become trendy to talk about “twice exceptional” kids who are both gifted and learning disabled. Many parents of gifted kids have come to realize that it’s possible to have reading, or math, or attention, or social, disabilities, and still be gifted.
Yet people still do not seem to realize that a gifted person can sometimes lack basic knowledge that someone their age might know. (Even though, if you’re busy reading about advanced calculus or philosophical problems or whatever, you have that much less time to spend on learning more “basic” facts).
According to some parents, gifted people can be bad at particular *skills,* but they still have to know everything.
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When I was a child, I was afraid to ask about things I didn’t understand–whether it was how north/south/east/west worked and how they related to familiar concepts like left/right–or how to use a TV remote, which to this day still confounds me with its zillions of buttons–or how to put shampoo in my hair without getting it in my eyes.
Because I would be mocked.
It wasn’t just that my behavior would be criticized. Every parent has to tell their child when they do something that doesn’t measure up.
But no, there would be name calling. Words like “lazy” and “not paying attention” and “not listening” and “spoiled brat.” No one can learn from this. Except, apparently, gifted kids–we’re supposed to be able to learn from anything. And when I didn’t learn from this, when I attempted to explain that I wasn’t lazy or not paying attention or listening, that I was trying my best, and that I was a decent person thank you very much, I was called rebellious and defensive and a bad kid who refused to learn from criticism.
I would not be mechanically inept, with no sense of direction, today if I had been able to reveal that I didn’t know some fact or skill without being mockingly told I should know how to do it. With that sort of attack on your sense of self, you stop asking questions. You also start feeling inadequate.
I am a summa cum laude, honors graduate of one of the hottest universities in the country, I qualify for MENSA, but I lose my glasses or phone pretty much every day. I forget things (sometimes even important appointments). I do stupid things. I walk into furniture. We all do. I just seem to do it slightly more often than the average smart, well-educated person.
But thanks to the way I was treated as a child–which wasn’t intended to hurt me, by the way, it was just due to the thoughtless assumption that as a “smart kid,” I should “know better”–every time I do one of these things, I berate myself and feel like a worthless person.
The biggest obstacle in my way today is my own lack of confidence in myself. That little voice inside tearing me down and saying “you’re gifted, why can’t you do this, you must be stupid or not trying. You’re such a failure, just because you made one small mistake.” That voice that confronts me every time I write a job application, or think about applying to graduate school in preparation for a career where maybe 30% of people even set foot on the tenure track–if they’re lucky. By the time I can start pursuing my dream, I’m already exhausted from having to argue with and push aside these voices telling me I’m not good enough to make it.
I thought the gifted community had changed. I thought parents had stopped doing this to their kids.
But prominent members of it still do. Members who know that giftedness doesn’t mean being brilliant at everything. Members who at least theoretically know that twice exceptionality exists.
Not naming any names, but one such person posted:
Why is my son, who got accepted into the top school in #NYC, nonetheless a fool? I know he should be smarter, I have test scores! #gifted
Note the gratuitous name-calling (“fool”), alongside the most hurtful thing you can say to a gifted person (“I know you should be smarter, what’s wrong with you?”).
Perhaps I should have let this pass without comment, but I imagined this person’s child–certainly old enough and smart enough to read it should they be on Twitter–seeing it and feeling hurt in the same way I have for years.
(Parents of nonverbal kids say even more hurtful things than this, but they figure their child will never see it or understand it. Whatever the merits of this argument, that excuse isn’t even available to parents of smart teenagers).
My response was measured, I think, given the circumstances:
I hope he can’t read this. I still have emotional scars from my mom saying stuff like this to me. We’re not good @ everything :(
The unnamed parent went on to explain:
14 yo should know letters require stamps. This is not skill someone is good at. This is dumb behavior that deserves mocking.
Of course a 14 year old “should’ know a stamp goes on the envelope, if they’ve ever seen anyone send letters in real life or in the movies. (Then again, virtually no one ever sends a letter any more, so it’s possible that a 14 year old today may never have seen it. But whatever, let’s assume for the sake of argument that every 14 year old knows how letters work in a digital age).
Did you, for even a moment, pause to wonder how this 14 year old must have felt about such an elementary mistake? They probably felt like a complete moron, maybe even a failure, as soon as they learned about their mistake.
Even if no one mocked them.
And if their parent is mocking them online, in front of total strangers (a *definite* unethical thing to do), you just know they’re saying worse in the privacy of their own home. Because everyone feels freer to say cruel things in private than in public.
Well, parents like this should know: One of the worst feelings is the shame at realizing you’ve made a mistake that no one like you–no one your age, your intelligence, your general knowledge of the world, whatever–is supposed to make. Your heart feels like it’s been stabbed and then it sinks down into your boots. You want to run away from yourself. Just being inside your own skin hurts, almost physically.
And yes, you can be gifted–heck, you can be highly, exceptionally, or profoundly gifted–and still make such mistakes. I know I have. And I’m still learning to forgive myself for it and move on with life.
Why is it not obvious to everyone that it is NEVER, EVER okay to make fun of someone for what they don’t know?
And no, it doesn’t matter how ridiculous it appears that a person doesn’t know something. First of all, even if the person should know it, mocking them doesn’t help them learn it, it just makes them hurt, and often want to defend themselves or escape from the experience, not learn from it.
There’s an additional problem, too: not everything that seems like it’s “obvious” or “everyone should know it” really is. Anyone who’s had a calculus or engineering professor who left out crucial steps in a proof because they’re supposedly “obvious” will understand this.
Or, consider: When I was five or six and my classmates were telling me how proud they were for starting to read chapter books, I didn’t get what the big deal was. I’d been reading real books for some time, and it never even occurred to me this was a milestone. Should I have mocked them for their pride in doing something I thought was so easy? Of course not, that would be cruel.
Well, I don’t know about this particular case, but many parents–including my own, who had little experience with kids–know about as much about what kids of any age “should” be doing as I knew then. Is it really worth causing one’s child such emotional harm?
One of the hardest things for me to accept–even though it’s pretty much the story of my childhood–is that generally kind, decent people who understand basic things about their kids’ minds, and parenting, can still do cruel things that leave emotional scars that last for years. Things that if they saw someone else say or do, they’d be horrified.
But somehow, it’s okay, because their child is gifted.
Their child must know and be able to do everything at at least average levels.
If not, they deserve to be mocked.
Can you imagine the pressure we feel as we internalize this unspoken message? (And yes, we do pick it up. We’re gifted, after all).
And then the experts wonder why we all have depression, anxiety, and other mental problems.
Giftedness should never be an excuse for emotional abuse. But so often, it is. And to me, that’s pretty much the ultimate gifted problem. Most of all, because it’s the one no one ever talks about.
We’re not learning machines, we’re people, and not all of our problems have to do with an inadequate educational system. It’s time to heal, it’s time to speak out, and it’s time to get the word out so future generations of kids don’t have to go through what we went through. If you have similar experiences of your own, please reblog and share, and spread the word. I don’t know if there’s anything we can do for this particular teenager, but maybe we can help someone else.
P.S.: Thank you to the unnamed parent for inspiring this insight, and fueling my determination to try to make things better for other gifted kids and adults. And to their child, my heart goes out to you and I hope that you never struggle in the same way I have.
God do I know this feel. I was really good at math as a kid if I was left alone - but as soon as someone hovered over me to watch how I did it, or told me to ‘show my work’, it crumbled and I couldn’t do it anymore - I just did everything in my head and it worked, but if I put it to paper it didn’t work anymore. I also played several instruments in band, but could never read music. I still can’t, and I was called an idiot and other names by teachers for not being able to do that, despite being able to play multiple instruments perfectly well by ear. I have very few memories of my childhood anymore, but I can remember pretty vividly being told ‘you’re smarter than that, why are you being so stupid/lazy’ many, many times. Parents/caretakers who do this to children do not deserve to be around children at all.
Damn, this sure sounds familiar…
I’ve been thinking about this exact concept a lot over the last year or so, and one of my biggest issues is how much we, as society, conflate ‘smart’ with ‘capable.’
Just because I can do algebra in my head doesn’t mean I can remember to do my laundry when it needs doing.
Just because I can write a six-page paper in two hours doesn’t mean I can have a productive, satisfying conversation with a stranger at a party.
Just because I can read a long book in one day, or remember boat loads of trivia, or get perfect grades, doesn’t mean I can do all the daily tasks required to live alone.
And just because I’m gifted, doesn’t mean I know everything.
My parents, over the course of my life and to this day, have always gotten angry and impatient with me for being ‘so smart, and yet so stupid, ’ because things that seem like common sense to everyone else simply don’t occur to me at all. I’m thirty years old, and still lack a lot of ‘basic’ knowledge that all adults are expected to have.
So again, being gifted does not mean knowing everything about the world. If anything, it means the way our brains work affects the way we interact with the world, to the point where what is considered common knowledge is not so common.
I was gifted enough to be taking algebra and geometry in middle school and was able to read books of college level, but I kept getting lost in the morning during runs with my school’s cross country.
I would be able to trace my path back but it’d make me almost late for school and parents and coach were worried about why I’m not taking the set path like the other kids. The coach was giving clear directions after all, turn left at such and such street and then a right here, etc.
Except I never put together that the green signs showed the street names.
While I wasn’t berated for not knowing what should have been obvious information known way before I was 14, it still gets brought up sometimes 8 years later like its let’s all have a laugh at this silly thing medicmoth did.
There was definitely other times though, when something was supposed to be obvious and wasn’t to me that it was met with anger. These days, I have a lot of anxiety about doing things for the first time because I might do them wrong.
It’s funny you mention street signs, because I used to get confused about which direction the street signs indicated. Like, I thought instead of showing the direction of the street they were lying parallel to, I thought they were pointing toward the perpendicular direction. Thus, I interpreted signs in the opposite of the correct way.
I also could not understand the concepts of North, South, East, and West, and how they mapped onto the directions that made sense (in front of me, behind me, left, and right).
My parents used to worry I’d run out into the street and got hit by a car, if I let go of something and it blew into the street or found a cool rock, because I had no fear of cars. I now suspect I couldn’t see moving cars at all. That is, my eyes took in the information but my brain did not consciously interpret them as moving cars, or, if it did, did not send the information to my brain that they were moving fast and were dangerous.
If I had lived in most times and places in history, I probably would have died very young.
My parents were great about this when I was a small child, which is one reason that having the “but you have so much potential” conversation over and over again as an adult grates so goddamn much. I had a mix of home, public and private schooling so there were a lot of things I learned in a different order than my classmates or age group at any particular time. I guess their patience for the gaps in my ability or knowledge diminished as I got older.
Parents, your children need to know that you love and respect them apart from their ability to perform by these metrics. Knowledge acquisition happens at different rates. Some people don’t stay “gifted” relative to their age peers because the other kids catch up. If you move them to a gifted program, be prepared for them to perform at average levels in the new setting because the population has shifted. Don’t center your parenting identity on having a smart kid.
Growing up, I took pride in being better than other people because I was smart. It fucked me up when I began to struggle in school for a bunch of reasons that were beyond my control. Dismantling that belief has taken a lot of work that’s still ongoing and I regret the times I’ve thrown that internalized shame onto others.
As someone who is also twice exceptional (and now a certified teacher), this hits home so hard in so many ways.
And I wasn’t just berated and criticized by my parents for not being able to do something that seemed so simple to them. Literally every adult in my life did this to me (and still does this to me because it is apparently socially acceptable to continue to do this to a fully grown 26 year old adult). It destroyed my self confidence for years and I don’t think it ever fully recovered. I developed a self defense mechanism of not giving a shit in order to cope with dealing with the adults in my life doing this to me.
I can do complicated math in my head (even that common core math most people don’t understand) but anything that requires any decent amount of executive functioning and my brain can’t handle it. Cooking isn’t something I can do even though most non gifted abled bodied neurotypicals can cook at least basic things. If it requires more than 5 minutes and more than 2 steps to prepare, it isn’t something I can make for myself.
I understand the complex political situation in mainland China but struggle to do my own laundry.
And just because I can write papers at the last possible moment and still pull off a reasonable grade, doesn’t mean I will ever be able to live on my own for any length of time.
This idea that gifted kids and adults need to be able to know how to do everything really needs to die immediately. Our brains are not computer chips, they’re a living organ and the brain doesn’t operate like the hard drive of a computer at all. That isn’t how knowledge or memories work at all.
So parents and teachers of gifted kids, remember that we aren’t robots. We don’t know everything and can’t be expected to know everything. Some of us (or perhaps many of us) are twice exceptional and that really needs to be taken into account. Some of the most revered gifted people were actually twice exceptional. It’s okay if your child doesn’t know some basics when they have mastered the complex topics. It isn’t the end of the world.
I can’t count the number of times adults, my parents and home room teachers especially, would jump from praising me and treating me like the Most Special Kid™ bc at a young age I was reading at college levels and books that my classmates couldn’t, and then not 30 minutes later giving me shit for not being able to do basic math. I have discalcula and ADD and this was honestly heartbreaking for me. “I can’t believe someone so smart can be so dumb” - my cousin and honest to god this mind set has ruined me.
this kinda shit is why I care about 2e kids. I got this exact treatment and it still gets me severely anxious and depressed, which makes juggling all of life even harder.
just, you know, keep this in mind.
-mod kc
How Gifted And Talented Programs Reinforce Class And Race Inequities
Christina Torres knows what it’s like to be one of very few gifted students of color in a classroom of mostly white students. After one of her teachers advocated for her, giving her the opportunity to retake the test for the gifted and talented track after she missed by only a couple points, Torres said she was disconnected from many of the other Latino kids at school, most of whom attended regular classes.
meditations on 2e and college life
i really do have a history of breaking down in the presence of teachers, and more recently professors i guess, because of the intersection of my adhd and high intelligence.
it happened in 7th grade after the skip (before that everything was a ridiculous breeze, which probably wasn’t good but… i digress) when i had trouble keeping up with my math. it happened again in high school, multiple times, but mostly junior year with precal and senior year with my overzealous AP sciences scheduling.
each time it happened there was a breaking point – i had been struggling to manage my symptoms quietly, on my own (because i didn’t want to appear stupid or lazy, of course), and when i had to face my instructor with my failure thereof, i’d just break down.
i wanted to be held in high esteem by my educators, and i wanted (and still want) to come across as a student who was engaged, who excelled, and who cared genuinely about the material and her education.
because it’s true, i try to excel and stay engaged, but damn me if it’s not getting progressively harder. and because i was always rather smart and bookish (even if strange and off-kilter), my symptoms never really got properly addressed.
sure, i was diagnosed, and sure, my instructors and parent knew about that, but there was always an attitude that because i wasn’t as “severely impaired” as others without the high intellect (read: my autistic cousin, to whom i’ve been compared to many times regarding our functioning levels), i didn’t really need that much help. there was a feeling that because i was “ahead” of my normal peers in one respect, that meant i didn’t deserve help where i was behind, and that i should just push through it, or at the very least work around it.
and for a while, it worked.
but there’s this phenomenon in gifted kids where they’re way ahead of the curve while they’re young, but they level out eventually – not at average, but also certainly not as ahead of their peers as they once were. that happened to me. i used to depend on my way-aheadness to compensate for my lag with regards to concentration and working memory and all that good stuff, but it just doesn’t work anymore.
and it’s not like learning/developmental disabilities like mine, ADHD, level out to normal at the same rate, if ever. i’m still way behind – i lag in conversations, i still need subtitles and reminders and to work around my erratic cognitive functions, just being interested in the material for its own sake isn’t working anymore – and with all the stresses of college and adult life, i’m overwhelmed, beyond my capacity to deal with it all.
so i’m going to be looking into accommodations soon, i think. it’s too late for this semester, and before i’ve been too overwhelmed at all the paperwork, but i’m going to my school’s conseling service for guidance regarding that.
Characteristics of Gifted Adults - From the Gifted & Creative Services of Australia
Here is a list of characteristics of gifted, or high-IQ adults. I definitely have felt and do experience everything on this list. You will see that it’s about much more than “being smart”. It is really more about being highly aware and able to easily see connections between ideas, events, people and on and on.
This list is from the Gifted & Creative Services of Australia, which offers information on the experience of being a gifted child or adult.
perfectionistic and sets high standards for self and others
has strong moral convictions
feels outrage at moral breaches that others seem to take for granted
is highly sensitive, perceptive or insightful
is a good problem solver
has unusual ideas or connects seemingly unrelated ideas
thrives on challenge
fascinated by words or an avid reader
learns new things rapidly
has a good long-term memory
is very curious
has an unusual sense of humor
has a vivid and rich imagination
feels overwhelmed by many interests and abilities
loves ideas and ardent discussion
can’t switch off thinking
is very compassionate
has passionate, intense feelings
has a great deal of energy
feels driven by creativity
needs periods of contemplation
searches for answers in life
feels out-of-sync or out-of-step with others
feels a sense of alienation and loneliness
The mods have been discussing and we have something exciting we’re planning to roll out for you all once we get the details worked out. Are you excited to find out what it is?
In the meantime, what kind of posts would you like to see? What kind of things would you like the gt community to have/do?
Admin Shan
Sensory Overload And How To Cope
Sensory overload has been found to be associated with disorders such as:
Fibromyalgia (FM)
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Autistic spectrum disorders
Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD)
Synesthesia
Sensory overload occurs when one (or more) of the body’s senses experiences over-stimulation from the environment.
Basically it feels like everything is happening at once, and is happening too fast for you to keep up with.
Sensory overload can result from the over stimulation of any of the senses.
Hearing: Loud noise or sound from multiple sources, such as several people talking at once.
Sight: Bright lights, strobe lights, or environments with lots of movement such as crowds or frequent scene changes on TV.
Smell and Taste: Strong aromas or spicy foods.
Touch: Tactile sensations such as being touched by another person or the feel of cloth on skin.
Obviously, everyone reacts in differently to sensory overload.
Some behavioural examples are:
Irritability – “Shutting down” – Covers eyes around bright lights – Difficulty concentrating Angry outbursts – Refuses to interact and participate – Covers ears to close out sounds or voices – Jumping from task to task without completing Overexcitement – Low energy levels – Difficulty speaking – Compains about noises not effecting others High energy levels – Sleepiness/fatigue – poor eye contact – Overly sensitive to sounds/lights/touch Fidgeting and restlessness – Avoids touching/being touched – Muscle tension – Difficulty with social interactions
There are two different methods to prevent sensory overload: avoidance and setting limits:
Create a more quiet and orderly environment - keeping the noise to a minimum and reducing the sense of clutter.
Rest before big events.
Focus your attention and energy on one thing at a time.
Restrict time spent on various activities.
Select settings to avoid crowds and noise.
One may also limit interactions with specific people to help prevent sensory overload.
It is important in situations of sensory overload to calm oneself and return to a normal level.
Remove yourself from the situation.
Deep pressure against the skin combined with proprioceptive input that stimulates the receptors in the joints and ligaments often calms the nervous system.
Reducing sensory input such as eliminating distressing sounds and lowering the lights can help.
Calming, focusing music works for some.
Take an extended rest if a quick break doesn’t relieve the problem.
What if someone you know is experiencing sensory overload?
Recognize the onset of overload. If they appear to have lost abilities that they usually have, such as forgetting how to speak, this is often a sign of severe overload.
Reduce the noise level. If they are in a noisy area, offer to guide them somewhere more quiet. Give time to process questions and respond, because overload tends to slow processing. If you can control the noise level, for example by turning off music, do so.
Do not touch or crowd them. Many people in SO are hypersensitive to touch - being touched or thinking they are about to be touched can worsen the overload. If they are seated or are a small child, get down to their level instead of looming above them.
Don’t talk more than necessary. Ask if you need to in order to help, but don’t try to say something reassuring or get them talking about something else. Speech is sensory input, and can worsen overload.
If they have a jacket, they may want to put it on and put the hood up. This helps to reduce stimulation, and many people find the weight of a jacket comforting. If their jacket is not within reach, ask them if they want you to bring it. A heavy blanket can also help in a similar way.
Don’t react to aggression. Don’t take it personally. It is rare for someone who is overloaded to cause serious harm, because they don’t want to hurt you, just get out of the situation. Aggression often occurs because you tried to touched/restrained/blocked their escape.
When they have calmed down, be aware that they will often be tired and more susceptible to overload for quite awhile afterwards. It can take hours or days to fully recover from an episode of sensory overload. If you can, try to reduce stress occurring later on as well.
If they start self-injuring, you should usually not try to stop them. Restraint is likely to make their overload worse. Only intervene if they are doing something that could cause serious injury, such as hard biting or banging their head. It’s a lot better to deal with self-injury indirectly by lowering overload.
To summarise - Remember the 5 R’s
Recognise The symptoms of overload
Remove Yourself from the situation
Reduce the stimulus causing the overload
Relax Your body and calm yourself down
Rest Yourself as you will most likely feel fatigue.]
(the original post is a photoset and the above was part of an image description, hope no ones minds i just changed it into a text post)
Reblogging always because this is so vital.
Sensory overload is also a huge and common migraine issue
This is also a common issue among gifted people, in my experience (which is sometimes with other disorders and sometimes not).
Just to make it clear, synesthesia is not a disorder - but it can definitely be a cause of overstimulation.
^ Thank you! I sometimes am not sure what word to use when talking about things that are disorders and things that are not disorders together.
since this might be important for some of us, I'm reblogging it here. If you ever experience these things, it definitely doesn't mean you're weird - it simply means the whole situation might be a little overwhelming. please take care of yourself, y'all!
I babysit a 5yo girl who I think might be gifted. I don't know that she is/will be book-smart, which obviously isn't the only way to be gifted, but she has other behaviors and traits that make me suspicious. I'm not an educator or anything, but I'm wondering whether I should talk to the parents about her. Given the role of GT-ness in my community, I'm not sure if I should point it out or wait for a teacher to do so, if a teacher ever notices it. Any thoughts?
This is a challenging question, and I’m not sure. It can sometimes be hard to tell. What kinds of things have you noticed? I think part of this might depend upon how her parents and the school system view and work with giftedness, and also upon how much you think you personally or others you know can or want to help her with it, and what kind of help she might need. Telling people could be super great for her, but it also might not be, or it might put some unrealistic expectations on her.
I guess my one hesitation here is that if she is held to a standard of giftedness and doing-what-gifted-kids-do, but there is an unrealistic bar for those things... it could do a number on her self confidence and lead to imposter syndrome or gifted underachiever syndrome, which I hate to see anyone go through. (I say this from experience with my younger brother and our school system not understanding what giftedness even is.)
I would recommend that you:
- Look at what kinds of things are in place in your community and what requirements there are to get into those and see if they are reasonable and realistic standards.
- Consider what her parents know about giftedness.
- Try to provide resources, coping skills, someone to talk to, enrichment in whatever areas she holds interest, talent, skill, etc. where you are able to.
- Consider multiple explanations for what you’re noticing in her, because some gifted things overlap with some adhd or autism or other neurothings, and see how they compare, and it’s important for those things to not be overlooked because of giftedness.
And if you decide to talk to her parents about it, I would go prepared to explain to them what giftedness is, provide them some resources, and dispel any myths about it that they might have heard. That will probably help give her a lot better chance, if her parents know abut it already. I’d definitely go with a “this might be but it also might not be” approach. It’s hard to tell sometimes, and can definitely be hard to know what to do in these situations.
- Admin Shan
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Sensory Overload and how to cope.
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man i’m reading the wikipedia page on intellectual giftedness and like
everything makes so much sense
i was officially (diagnosed? given the status? idk how you want to word it) as gifted when i was in second grade because my mom thought something was up when her 8 year old was smarter than her
and i’m just going to run through this article and bust out snippets that made me making animalistic noises over how “me” they were
Gifted children may develop asynchronously: their minds are often ahead of their physical growth, and specific cognitive and emotional functions are often developed differently (or to differing extents) at different stages of development - this probably explains what i mean when i say i’ve felt like i’ve mentally ben 35 since i was 9 apparently if you ask my mom she could have adult conversations with me about life events since i was three years old and it creeped her out
Generally, gifted individuals learn more quickly, deeply, and broadly than their peers. Gifted children may learn to read early and operate at the same level as normal children who are significantly older. i was reading picture books by a year and a half, harry potter in first grade and stephen king in third.
The gifted tend to demonstrate high reasoning ability, creativity, curiosity, a large vocabulary, and an excellent memory. They can often master concepts with few repetitions. explains why i can’t teach anyone something because i don’t understand how normal learning works. i can learn something quickly and when someone doesn’t understand something right away, i will seriously break down and cry because it frustrates me that i have no idea how to not learn something.
They may also be physically and emotionally sensitive, perfectionistic, and may frequently question authority. yes, yes (the first time i got a B i went home and cried and despite my mom assuring me she was a straight C student and look how she turned out, it just made me cry even more), and i’m pretty sure this is why i love politics because while i don’t have authority issues, i’m perfectly content analyzing authority and morality and deciding when someone in authority is “wrong” and i don’t have to listen to them.
Some have trouble relating to or communicating with their peers because of disparities in vocabulary size (especially in the early years), personality, interests, and motivation. As children, they may prefer the company of older children or adults. my only close friends growing up were the other kids in the gifted program because i just couldn’t talk to “normal” kids. vocabulary played some part but i mean, i remember our sleepovers were so…deep for kids our age. like i remember having an emotional breakdown in my friend’s backyard late one night looking at the stars because i couldn’t figure out the concept of being and the meaning of life. we were 11. and that last part is my life in a nutshell. when i was 7, my closest friend was 16. i’m (let’s just go ahead and say 20 because my birthday is sunday) now and the average age of my friends probably sits around 30-35.
Giftedness is frequently not evenly distributed throughout all intellectual spheres; an individual may excel in solving logic problems and yet be a poor speller; another gifted individual may be able to read and write at a far above average level and yet have trouble with mathematics. yes. my sphere is definitely more verbal-based. we took IQ tests when we were first admitted to the program (i had to take it twice: once in north carolina and once when i moved back to pennsylvania) and my IQ was 142. but if you know me, you do not trust me with anything math related. my verbal IQ is 172 and my nonverbal is like 130-something. i don’t remember that number because i was too shocked like…172 how the fuck that’s a very high number.
Many gifted individuals experience various types of heightened awareness and may seem overly sensitive. These sensitivities may be to physical senses such as sight, sound, smell, movement and touch. For example, they may be extremely uncomfortable when they have a wrinkle in their sock, or unable to concentrate because of the sound of a clock ticking on the other side of the room. Sensitivities of the gifted are often to mental and emotional over-awareness. For example, picking up on the feelings of someone close to them, having extreme sensitivity to their own internal emotions, and taking in external information at a significantly higher rate than those around them. These various kinds of sensitivities often mean that the more gifted an individual is, the more input and awareness they experience, leading to the contradiction of them needing more time to process than others who are not gifted.
Hypersensitivity to external or internal stimuli can resemble a proneness to “sensory overload”, which can cause such persons to avoid highly stimulating, chaotic or crowded environments…Some are able to tune out such unwanted stimulation as they focus on their chosen task or on their own thoughts. In many cases, awareness may fluctuate between conditions of hyperstimulation and of withdrawal. (An individual’s tendencies to feel overwhelmed is also affected by their extraversion and introversion.) i was really fucking relieved to read this part because for the longest time, since my middle brother is autistic, i was paranoid that i fell somewhere on the spectrum too because i get sensory overload all the time. hell, even in one of my gifted classes, one of our FPS problems was on sensory overload and my teacher looked right at me and said “i bet you experience this a lot” and i was creeped out like how the fuck did you know that. i fall victim to culture shock a lot when i travel. vegas was the ultimate “this is too much i have to go lay down for a bit before i hyperventilate and cry because everything is happening”. and i was always that person who cannot write in public because the slightest noise kills me. i remember during PSSAs one year the girl across from me was chewing gum loudly and i had to ask to move because i just wanted to put my head down and cry; i couldn’t think.
Unhealthy perfectionism stems from equating one’s worth as a human being to one’s achievements, and the simultaneous belief that any work less than perfect is unacceptable and will lead to criticism. Because perfection in the majority of human activities is neither desirable, nor possible, this cognitive distortion creates self-doubt, performance anxiety and ultimately procrastination. aka the story of my life. it was even worse because, like i said, most of my friends were in the same boat as me and i would constantly compare my scores to them and if i did worse, i would just think i was worthless and nothing. which leads to…
Underachievement: There is often a stark gap between the abilities of the gifted individual and his or her actual accomplishments. Many gifted students will perform extremely well on standardized or reasoning tests, only to fail a class exam. This disparity can result from various factors, such as loss of interest in classes that are too easy or negative social consequences of being perceived as smart.Underachievement can also result from emotional or psychological factors, including depression, anxiety, perfectionism, or self-sabotage. yep. i slack off way too much because i get bored so easily. and i kicked every standardized test’s ass. i mean, my SAT score was only 1890 but i got into both colleges i applied to and just didn’t care anymore. (and sometimes i angst about what my life could have been like if i actually went to NYU but i don’t know man i’m not even in grown-up college anymore so all of the problems i have at Pitt would have probably been worse if i was far away but i also would have been happier because NYC is home to me so idk?)
A number of people have noted a higher incidence of existential depression, which is depression due to seemingly highly abstract concerns such as the finality of death, the ultimate unimportance of individual people, and the meaning (or lack thereof) of life. Gifted individuals are also more likely to feel existential anxiety. all. the. time.
so to sum it all up, any time someone told me that it must be nice to be “smart”, i was completely serious when i said it was way more complicated than they thought. it really is.
My existential depression tends to start with small things like sensory overload or daily upsets and spiral into “the world is broken and no one will listen and I cant fix it because I’m only me” at any thing that might trigger it – frequently a political debate or reading something where the other party shows a lack of compassion for people.
I am so happy that I am starting to see more people write about the kind of intellectual giftedness that I know of. - and not “this is the next Einstein/Beethoven/whatever”.It is so nice to be reminded that I am not alone and knowing that people outside of my country is this way as well (that might sound werid, but it makes sense to me). I Denmark we have an organisation called “Gifted Children” for highly intellegent children. Basically a mensa for children/young people. I think great and I’ve met some of my best friends there. But knowing that there are people from around the world that I can communicate with about this is really great. Thanks for taking the time to wrtie about it. Keep doing it. I hear you, hopefully more people will :)
This is why it's so important for us to talk about giftedness! - Admin Shan
Giving gifted students time
Great post about giving gifted students time in school to pursue their interests and excel at their own pace.
A few takeaways:
Teachers can pre-assess students or use the compacting concept to see what time might be saved by not re-teaching current understandings and using that time instead for other interests or accelerated content.
Time for spontaneity and enthusiastic engagement in the classroom is important.
Creative thought usually needs time to incubate or develop into fully formed ideas. Students should be encouraged to delay conclusions about solutions or ideas that require an aspect of creative thought. (Your first idea may not be your best one.)
Deadlines can be set, but sometimes students could use more time to incorporate feedback and improve on their ideas. The work world operates like this—the product you finish by the deadline may not be the final, best version.
You can read the full article here. Source: National Society for the Gifted & Talented If you are a gifted student or teach gifted students, what are some ways you use pockets of time in the classroom? Let us know. - Kali