A home for buns

22 yr old bi. She/Her. I stream now @https://www.twitch.tv/akibunni

[sins-of-sodom]

here's a youthlib opinion im seething over having had this conversation just now

when you avoid kids because of your pedo OCD you are treating them as objects

and ironically that is materially worse for them than interacting with them even if you're someone who is usually engaged in NSFW spaces.

i recently came to this realization because i was talking to people about fandom spaces and proship and antiship and how regardless of the stance of those involved, children are more likely to be groomed in general because these spaces strongly discourage adults from interacting with kids at all. this ties a lot into adults' moral OCD over being considered pedophiles and to be so fucking honest

YOU TREATING KIDS LIKE A POTENTIAL OBJECT OF ATTRACTION DEHUMANIZES THEM AND HURTS THEM WORSE THAN ANY FRIENDLY INTERACTION YOU COULD HAVE WITH THEM

IF YOU BAR KIDS FROM SOCIAL SPACES AND PREVENT THEM FROM HAVING HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS WITH ADULTS THEY WILL BE PUSHED INTO SEEKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ADULTS WHO WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM

This happened to me and this happened to tons of fucking people where we were kids because adults either wouldn't talk to us out of fear of being called predators or would condescend to us because they saw us as dumb annoying children so we either turned to lying about our ages or talking to any adult who would listen to us which was often people who would take advantage of us!!!!!!!! When you refuse to treat kids like people and push them out of places where they could learn to develop healthy boundaries, connect with people and learn about themselves and their place in the world you HURT THEM worse than interacting with them would. Do NOT pretend like you're protecting kids with your avoidance, you're literally just like everyone else. You are doing what the system already does. Deal with your OCD the way you would if it made you scared of any other group of people INTERNALLY AND THROUGH EXPOSURE THERAPY

Fuck your MDNI.

[probuccalfat]

one time i told a group of lesbian and bi women that i have never watched wicked and they were shocked, gagged, gooped, “but you’re queer. you like pussy. how have you not seen wicked?” yeah. well. i like pussy, not musicals?

[probuccalfat]

i’m this exact post. all this just to fuck women.

[probuccalfat]

“are you going to the lucy dacus concert?” no. i listen to gucci mane.

[veil-of-exordia]

[recursivewitch]

I've never read Homestuck but there's a type of media that I call "a Homestuck" and I think it's a useful categorization. The main criteria are:

long enough that the time investment is a serious barrier to entry

irrevocably changes your personality

brings something genuinely unique to the table. there is no real substitute for reading/playing/watching it in its entirety

Fate/Stay Night is a Homestuck. Worm is a Homestuck. When They Cry is a Homestuck.

Undertale has cultural impact similar to a Homestuck at first glance, but the fact that it's a pretty short and accessible game means that you don't get the particular mix of sunk cost fallacy and an intimate experience with a piece of media that results in you needing to connect with others who have already put in the time investment. You can buy your friends Undertale and expect them to play it if they're not too busy; telling a friend to read Homestuck is giving them a quest that, if accepted, will spark an odyssey. to read someone's Homestuck is an act of love without true equivalent.

[underpunsideration]

I've been staring at this post for like 30mins and I'm not sure why it has me like this but I'll try to explain:

Fundamentally, a "Homestuck" must be something you assume your IRL friends:

Are not already into, and

Are probably not going to get into

for a combination of factors, which may or may not include:

Length

Difficulty to parse, for ANY reason(s)

Lack of mainstream presence

Dated/otherwise offensive elements

Notoriety of the fanbase, especially if it's full of literal children

On top of all of this, it must also bring a relatively unique experience to the table, especially one that changes how you see the world.

The result is a piece of media or experience that is almost impossible to share with any IRL friends. It is much easier to find someone online who understands than it is to introduce someone you know to a "Homestuck". In this regard, a "Homestuck" must be a simultaneously enriching and isolating experience for its fans. Without online communities and/or conventions, it must be extremely difficult to share what a "Homestuck" means to you with anyone else.

Ok so some of the examples I kept seeing in the comments and RBs (I haven't read/watched all of these but these are my thoughts)

Worm is a great example. Though the fanbase is different, format is traditional, and it's not "problematic" (I think), Worm is both extremely unique and impossible to introduce to friends.

Danganronpa is more mainstream, but otherwise fits the bill decently well. It's more popular than some of the other entries and its basic formula isn't unique, but it isn't easy to get into and its execution is pretty interesting

More mainstream examples like One Piece, Dr. Who, and Star Trek all feel more like semi-"Homestuck"s due to it being much easier to find someone into them, making them far less isolating experiences.

Touhou makes a lot of sense, as it's difficult to describe its appeal to people and it's a very unusual multimedia experience. However, Touhou can also be enjoyed without needing to parse all of its complexities, so I think it's a bit lower in the list

MLP would be difficult to introduce to people due to the perception of both the show itself and of its fanbase. However, I'm not sure how well it meets the other criteria (I haven't seen it)

I think most of the other examples can be thought of along these lines. Really, the "how isolating is it IRL" seems to be the biggest factor, as if something is both niche and meaningful, it becomes that much more difficult for the people around you to understand you

[isaacsapphire]

Feels like a lot of doorstopper Russian/Russian-American novels fall into this category, in the lit grouping.

[siryouarebeingmocked]

I've actually avoided reading Ward because I'm not the same person I was when I read Worm. I still read the occasional Worm fanfic, though. And I dropped Homestuck after Scratch's cosmic reset.

[generallemarc]

I've been slowly getting into Fate for awhile now, and the difference between it and something like Worm or Homestuck is that, for those two, all the fans I've spoken to have actively advised me to not try and get into it. And the first time this happened was with Homestuck in like, 2011 at a choir camp. Guy next to me brought it up in conversation and when I started asking questions he eventually said I probably wouldn't be able to get into it since it was so complicated. I don't think I ever even learned his name, but he saved me from ruin that day.

[pawberri]

If youre a closeted person somewhere out there thinking "I want to transition but it would be less progressive/unique/countercultural for me to be that gender instead of this one" please know that you are a real person not a character in a narrative and cant live your life based on what is good media representation. You are real you can only be yourself and theres no moral weight to any identity over another

[pawberri]

Liberal transphobes enjoy positioning trans identities as regressive compared to cis queerness or like non-transitioning transness or anything else they can leverage to make transphobia look progressive and I think its easy to absorb that message subconciously. But in real life we just are what we are and no ranking of validity can change the fact that you have an identity that is NOT chosen and is just your unchangeable truth. Not only should you not have to live a life dictated by what is most countercultural to identify as or whatever but also: being trans is extremely countercultural and feminist and leftist to begin with and theyre only trying to convince you otherwise bc theyre bigots

[pawberri]

"Why cant you be a feminine man society hates feminine men 🥺" and "all the butch lesbians are becoming men we need u 🥺" = stay in the closet for the noble purpose of being an abstract representation point in my new york times opinion column. You wont actually be a gnc cis person youll be a closeted trans person who uses the wrong words but I need you to do that because i hate you

[qqchurch]

okay.

[miracestuous]

Mahiro has both bombshell mom and ethically dubious sister constantly trying to jump her bones but she keeps refusing both of them. Least relatable genderswap protagonist

[milf--adjacent]

Let the historical record show that Mr. Beast was entirely ignorable if you were just like doing literally anything else. I've been on youtube as long as it's been around and I've never been recommended a video by him. I see him in passing as a meme. I thought he was a made up joke, a caricature of bad youtuber content miners until someone I trust confirmed his existence to me in late 2025.

[prokopetz]

The reason you can't be the next J R R Tolkien isn't because you don't have the talent, but because you're not the right kind of unwell. Tolkien wasn't bent for fantasy worldbuilding; he was bent for constructed languages, and got into fantasy worldbuilding in order to provide a material context in which to ground the notional evolution of the languages he invented. If you want to be the next Tolkien, you can't start with the worldbuilding; you've gotta find something extremely specific to fixate on, and develop it in such depth that inventing a world to contain it is genuinely the most logical next step.

[k-wame]

[rockergiirl]

coworker asks if i like harry potter and i have to make a disco elysium skill check to come up with a response

[heirtocragflame]

CIS COWORKER — Hey you seem really into wizards and stuff, I bet you love Harry Potter :)

EMPATHY — He’s just trying to be polite and make conversation. He doesn’t know about JK Rowling’s opinions on trans people. Let’s politely change the subject.

COMPOSURE [Trivial: Failure] — “Kill yourself.”

[las-lus]

Watching the new Folding Ideas video and I can't stop thinking that Mr Beast is unsatisfied because he doesn't have a fandom. He is dying to understand where to throw money to make fandom happen. It gives me great pleasure to know that we hold the power to keep mr. Beast miserable

[robotlyra]

When Dan Olson said that Mr Beast's people asked him and a bunch of other youtubers "How do you create fandom", I experienced a moment of terror so visceral that my heart jumped into my throat. But luckily what followed was a thorough reassurance that he would never be able to understand the answer to that question.

The reason WHY Team Beast wants to "create fandom" is because they have an awareness that fandom is something that makes Number Go Up, and they want to have access that sort of loyalty and attention. But fandom isn't really something you create intentionally, it's more of a natural side effect of caring about something a lot, and going about the business of expressing how much you care, and finding community that cares in a similar way. But Mr Beast and his team do not actually care about anything at all, except Number Go Up. Everything Team Beast does is just a random exercise in throwing money at different ideas to see which makes Number Increase More.

Team Beast made chocolate bars because they know their audience of kids likes and buys candy, not because they liked candy or were interested in the process of making good candy. This is how they ended up making a chocolate bar that lacked the pre-sectioned bar shape that any other reputable candy maker has known and utilized for decades.

Team Beast made a reality show, because they know that reality shows are popular, and that Squid Game was a massive cross-cultural phenomenon, not because they care about reality shows, or are interested in telling stories about the limits of human cooperation and integrity in high stress, high rewards situations. This is how they ended up making a reality show with too many people to focus on any sort of interesting individual narratives, filled with elimination challenges that didn't work.

Team Beast is basically going down a checklist of "what activities that have the highest profits/highest level of public awareness associated with them" because they want that Simple Numerical Supremacy that comes from them, not because they care about the actual activities themselves. This also explains why Dan Olson was invited to Team Beast's studios to begin with. They probably only have a vague awareness of him as a guy on youtube with a million subscribers, and a 2 hour documentary about NFTs that is apocryphally regarded as the Film That Ended The Business. They don't actually care about what he or other youtubers consider important. They just want their fandoms.

[trangoldin]

[thatdykepunkslut]

[queer-as-city-folk]

I remember the first time I saw the climate clock, I thought well that's dramatic, Climate Change is an issue sure, but they are exaggerating how fast and how bad it will get, but now? Now I worry they were understating the speed at which things will worsen

[queer-as-city-folk]

There are less than 3 years left on the clock, and thousands died this year from heat waves while the US and Israel have bombed entire cities off the map and AI data centers are being built that use more power than small countries

[deepseasmetro]

the masses only care about the girls starving themselves when its not something they can ignore anymore; ariana grande used to be "just naturally petite" - only now once they can see her skeleton does anyone feel the need to express their concern. and, of course, the fattest of us will starve ourselves constantly, months at a time, for years of our lives, and the only thing we ever get out of it is a congratulations. starvation is ugly, but thinness is chic - i mean, ariana grande wasn't even actually fat before! her mind is sick so she just thinks she's fat. she's starving herself wrongly. thin people are not supposed to starve. only fat people!

[werewolf-transgenderism]

irritating as fuck when people get mad at Black people existing in premodern historical fiction/fantasy media. like first of all, you're racist. and second of all, you are acting as though Black people didn't exist in premodern Europe which is simply false. especially when we're talking about the Mediterranean, like what the fuck do you people think is along the southern half of the Mediterranean Ocean?? everyone's on boats, there are GOING to be interactions with Black people in Northern Africa, and there are GOING to be Black people in Mediterranean Europe. stop being stupid. your imagined homogeneous white European past is not historical reality, get over it you massive losers

[heathercollinsmd]

always going to include this Psych reference

[tolovaj]

THANK YOU

[dykepuffs]

Friendly unfriendly reminder that "Ovulation is like an animal being in heat and makes you stupid" has been a keystone of western misogyny pretty much since Europe worked out what periods are.

[hollowboobtheory]

I have to upload this as a video bc you can see her think this in real time

[maraudingcaptain]

OP you just can't leave out this golden comment

[psipudding]

You're so cool and awesome and your art is adorable!