Stigma does not kill women in prostitution. Men do.
– Julie Bindel (2017) The Pimping of Prostitution: Abolishing the Sex Work Myth, p.51.

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Stigma does not kill women in prostitution. Men do.
– Julie Bindel (2017) The Pimping of Prostitution: Abolishing the Sex Work Myth, p.51.
Susan Kare, famous graphic artist who designed many of the fonts, icons, and images for Apple, NeXT, Microsoft, and IBM. (1980s)
She also did the playing card art for Windows 3.1′s Solitaire!
Suffragettes didn't just fight for women's voting rights.
They fought for the right for women to own property, domestic violence protections, the right to initiate divorce, the right to have legal standing in courts, the right to obtain guardianship of their children during instances of divorce.
I'm sure you've heard men complain about women always getting custody in court, but prior to World War I, in cases of separation, men obtained guardianship of kids.
The right to an equal education, domestic violence protections, the right to not just vote but run for political office, advocating against the prostitution of women.
Here's a suffragette trying to persuade a sea of men about these things:
"Male fantasies, male fantasies, is everything run by male fantasies? Up on a pedestal or down on your knees, it's all a male fantasy: that you're strong enough to take what they dish out, or else too weak to do anything about it. Even pretending you aren't catering to male fantasies is a male fantasy: pretending you're unseen, pretending you have a life of your own, that you can wash your feet and comb your hair unconscious of the ever- present watcher peering through the keyhole, peering through the keyhole in your own head, if nowhere else. You are a woman with a man inside watching a woman. You are your own voyeur."
- Margaret Atwood
Sabrina carpenter, let's talk about her.
She's one of many well known pop stars, and a sex symbol of Hollywood and western media, which in turn ends up influencing even developing nations. A child actor into a popsinger who released her new album "Short 'n sweet" which has gripped the charts.
The title obviously alludes to her height, something heavily refrenced by sabrina herself and reinforced through her branding.
This "sexy baby" trope is nothing but a pedophilic fantasy. In her concerts, sabrina will ask, "Have you ever tried *this* one?" And contort her body into a promiscuous pose that reveals her undergarments or even use male dancers to position herself in a manner referencing sex. That's not the concerning part. It's called the "Juno" pose, a movie about a pregnant teenage girl, and she refrences teenage pregnancy as some sort of joking leeway to sexualise herself. Additionally, the first image above is Sabrina carpenter recreating the classic image of Lolita, a young girl lusted after by a grown man.
So clearly 2 things are emphasised.
Her sexual attractiveness.
And her petite and small figure.
As said herself in her improvised catchphrases on her tours :
"I'm full grown, but I look like a niña/ Come put something big in my casita/ Mexico, I think you are bonita!" (February 2024)
Or how about...
"Gardens by the Bay, I wanna go there / Then, I'1l take you somewhere that has no hair / Singapore you're so perfect, it's no fair!" (March 2024)
Notice how both quotes emphasised sabrina looking like a "niña" (meaning little girl) in particular and being hairless.
It seems that in the modern day feminism, adult women co-opt girly femininity as proof of their sexual attractiveness. Adults who are regressing with frilly socks and bows on pigtails and endless aesthics like bimbo/softgirl/tradwife all promoting girlhood from the school girl clothing to the childish attitudes as the perfect woman. Endless girl-math, girl-talk, girl-dinner and plenty more sub categories demeaning women into girls. Using a pedophilic manner of embodying a teenage girl in all their perceived ditzy, naive, high-pitched soft and feminine talk and then turning around and telling us that no - actually that's what's sexually attractive for women to emulate.
Adult women so detached from that humiliating isolating experience of being a teenage girl that they now regress and try sexualise that experience.
On the other hand, young girls are hearing the wrong message. Adults are telling them that sexualising themselves isn't a good thing yet these same adults praise and invest in their favourite celebrities and pop media that all sell a harmful idea. They see sexualised women in media get all the positive reinforcement and have that socially programmed craving for male validation and attention.
Now to young adolescent girls, they want to rush into womanhood. They dress and try to act like the Caricature of a Catty 20, something rich socialite. The rise in sephora teens paying hundreds for makeup and clothes not made for them. Adult women are regressing, and young girls are trying to grow up too fast to be taken seriously for once.
For as much as many adult women feel heartbroken at the statistics of harm and harassment and child sexual abuse young girls face, it seems to be very shallow. They support industries that make girlhood into a hypersexual pedophilic caricature that only leads to harm of real girls.
Of course, they don't want to be girls anymore. They think growing up gives them agency, being taken seriously. I feel so bad for the little girls who grow up and realise... that never ends. That humiliation and demeaning from boys in their classes continues well on as an adult.
If adult women are too busy role-playing as hyperfeminine teenage girls and glorifying girlhood, and teenage girls are oversexuliaing themselves and wanting to escape girlhood for womanhood then WHO is protecting little girls?
It can't be the adult men who are the main consumers of child sexual abuse material and the pimps and groomers and traffickers.
It can't be the government's who don't crack down on female opression worldwide.
It can't even be adult women, who cater to pedophiles and pedophilic men by making themselves seem as petite and feminine and small and girlish as long as they physically can. Never wanting to age or be dare caught bare faced unless they have dozens of surgeries to look as youthful as they can naturally.
No. Nobody cares, it seems. The world seems to revolve and center male fantasies. Money is a the resource used to trade girls around - the real currency and delicacy that unites men from all over the world.
If adult women keep funding and praising idolculture that promotes pedophilia, than those adult women shouldn't call themselves feminists. It's one thing to listen to their songs, but buying merch and renting tickets and keeping that industry well fed is a disservice to all women.
You might say, so I just watch nothing? Do nothing? There's no radical feminist singers, and not everyone fits my viewpoint. Surely it's unrealistic to expect change? That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that if someone cares enough, change happens, and you must give things up.
There's many ways to go about this, for one ignoring celebrities and celebrity culture, you might download their songs so as to not give them money for their work. And just in general, ignore them.
Death of celebrity culture is death to the beauty industry who all promote pedophilic beauty standards and profit off of womens desire to look youthful.
If you can't send money to save young girls, deny money to these celebrities that cater to pedophilic men's wet dreams.
Of course, it's going to be hard. It's feminism
You have to prioritise women and girls safety over fitting in. Ignore celebrities, reject the normalisation of gross pedophilic and misogynistic standards.
And remember, we are NOT the weird ones, everyone else is desensitised because pretty much every main industry benefits from the exploitation of the female people.
My dear sisters, don't worship female celebrities, they pander to pedophiles.
- Lani, your Lady
They’re not gonna like this one
People really hate that the status associated with being skinny is being threatened with effective obesity medications. Saw a video where someone said that as drugs like GPL-1 become more mainstream and safer- people will start using something else other than body-size to distinguish themselves: most likey muscle mass and body comp. Ie: a look that requires significant money, time, and resources to get.
Anyway, just puts context to all the snide, pissy comments whenever someone loses weight with Ozempic. It's a threat to the status quo and thus, not appreciated.
She got famous for a song that called thin women silicone barbie dolls, skinny bitches, not what real men want, etc. Her body positivity depended on putting other women down, and now she has that body type. Sorry, but all I can do is laugh. That's not about competition; it's about her hypocrisy.
...but seriously, don't take ozempic if it isn't medically necessary (it was originally made for diabetic people, right?). It'll fuck with your health and we don't have the data to know it's long-term effects.
Her body positivity gave thin women the tiniest taste of what people say about fat women. I don’t even know what political celibacy means anymore because all I have to do to follow all four tenets of 4B is exist as a fat 40 year old woman instead of starving myself or taking drugs to make myself thin and paying doctors thousand of dollars to inject chemicals into my face but a fat woman sings “my mama she told me don’t worry about your size, she said boys like a little more booty to hold at night” and everyone clutches their pearls. Don’t make me laugh.
Thin women didn't like it because they've already experienced comments like that lol. It didn't come out of nowhere. Anyways, the hypocrisy is the point here. Girl made a fake body positivity song about how much she loves being thicc and now she's either on a regimen or took pills to be a skinny bitch (while still having an hourglass figure, of course; we wouldn't want to be sticks, now, would we?).
Skinny people who genuinely get angry at the odd sprinkle of body positivity here and there display one of the ugliest forms of insecurity. Many skinny people have a certain noblesse oblige about the status they occupy- meaning they know they're the standard and enjoy that status yet also have a graceful, Princess Diana aura about it- never bringing it up unnecessarily. And are just a class act about the whole thing. Insecure skinny people however can be hit with a constant stream of uninterrupted validation for days or months on end but a throwaway line like "He likes that I have a big booty ;)" enrages them. It's like the difference between a classy rich person who quietly donates large sums to the children's hospital and a tacky rich person who runs around calling people "broke" every two seconds. Like. the difference is very apparent and jarring.
Are you all radfems defending the song calling women “skinny bitches” and placing our worth or “perfectness” based on what men might like about women’s bodies? Women (regardless of thin or fat) should hate that song because its understanding of “body positivity” is ridiculous in the first place and not because Meghan Trainor had booty or whatever. You all sound like libfems.
That you live it happily and comfortably does not make it any less oppressive for other women.
That you find prostitution comfortable and safe does not make it any less oppressive for all those women who suffer rape and abuse just to be able to eat and support their families.
That you find the life of a tradwife comfortable and happy does not make it any less oppressive for all those women who live imprisoned in their own home depending on their partner and having to be his slaves.
That you find religion comfortable and happy does not make it any less oppressive for all those women who limit their lives because of their religion, or who are mistreated and abused in the name of religion.
“When I asked male interview subjects what they would like to do in bed, “ejaculation on a woman’s face” was most often at the top of their lists. But when I asked them what the attraction of this act was and whether it meant anything, their initial response was puzzlement. They had never given it much thought. With time for reflection, however, most came up with answers very similar to those of the pornographers I interviewed: it is about controlling women, doing something disgusting to them. It’s like spitting or urinating on them. Thus something unsettling about gender relationships mediated by pornography is revealed: on-screen male domination is sugar-coated — portrayed as causing women ecstasy — which in turn arouses further desire on the part of the male viewers: the desire to experience the pleasure derived from control and aggression. And deep down, these viewers understand it. “The second you have an orgasm and that passion sinks out of your body, and you’re still watching the movie, you start to really see what’s going on,” one male college student said. “This is not sexy. This is not sex. This is not how I want to experience sex.””
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Chyng Sun, co-director of The Price of Pleasure (via radicalfeministuprising)
Germaine Greer: “Women have no idea how much men hate them.”
(via the-uncensored-she)
That reminds me of two quotes in Judy, Lola, Sofia and I (an investigation about “amateur” porn in France) :
In pornography, sodomy or facial ejaculation seem like many ways for a man to celebrate his victory over a female body. For Liogier [sociologist who wrote a book about masculinity], this conquering spirit is also seen in bukkake : “It’s the notorious female body, desirable because belittled, punished and defeated.”
The other quote is a dialogue between Robin D’Angelo (the journalist) and Célian (pornographer/actor) :
Célian had shown me a video where he ejaculates on the face of a beginner. She’s like paralyzed, then runs to the bathroom and throws up, to the delight of the producer.
- When you do this, you’re only humiliating her, besides you know she hates sperm…
- I am still a man who needs to finish the scene! Let me enjoy it a little! And aesthetically, for business, it’s better a cum shot to the face, even if the girl is whining. Also the fact that the girl does something she doesn’t like will turn on the client. That’s what they want to see. Authenticity. A chick who gets destroyed. Degraded. It relieves their frustration.
The men who watch this hate women and they deserve no sympathy for what they do to women
They are rapists and they deserve a brutal death
I will continue to scream forever about how porn is anti-female propaganda: a backlash against women’s rights. It is no coincidence that this shit started to become popular in the 60s and 70s which is when women started to enjoy more rights and freedoms, and has only continued to become worse as women started to move up in society while accumulating more wealth than ever before.
Men watch this stuff because they fundamentally hate women. They think we should be their slaves and they’re pissed off that we’re not legally bound to them anymore. When they watch porn, they’re imagining that the woman on the screen is their “nagging” wife, their female boss, a woman who rejected them or any other woman that they don’t like because she doesn’t worship men. The more independent and successful we become the more they hate us, and the violence shown in porn becomes more degrading and sadistic.
Also note that they view the very act of sex with them as disgusting and degrading, something they want to do *to* a woman they hate, as the comment above pointed out.
For men, sex is not an expression of love or affection. It is a tool to control, one of which they see as humiliating and degrading for the recipient.
Re: Natalee Barnett trying to open a women’s-only gym and getting harassed by TRAs.
I followed this woman years ago, when I was first getting into weightlifting, and her content is SO helpful, accessible, and empowering. She made a point of telling women to TAKE UP SPACE in the weight room, that they deserve to be there, and that there are other women out there who will support and uplift them. She never gave into the “lifting will make you bulky” sentiment that deters women and girls from getting strong, she was such a beacon of positivity and humor in the online weightlifting space that is so dominated by cringe gym bros. She’s been talking about opening a female-only gym for YEARS and it’s obvious how much work and love went into it.
It saddens and frustrates me that women cannot have ANYTHING of our own. That instead of applauding her for the amazing work she’s doing, she’s being flooded with comments calling her a bigot and a horrible person. Women deserve their own spaces! Women deserve to do what they love in a space with other women that isn’t full of predatory, egotistical men!
I have had numerous encounters in the gym just this MONTH where men have made me physically uncomfortable. Demonstrated their power over me, spoken to me when it was obvious I did not wish to continue a conversation, the list goes on. And I show up bare faced, unshaven, in baggy clothes! It’s so much worse for so many others. I wish I had a space to lift in peace, with women, without the constant eyes of men. I deserve better. Women deserve better.
I can only hope this is a tipping point for her and other women. We need to wake up to the harm imposed when women are denied single-sex spaces.
And I’m not on TikTok or Instagram anymore so I’m sure this has all been said. But fuck. She inspired me so much when I first got into weightlifting, a practice which has totally and completely changed my life
"Over the past decade, the recasting of female sites of separatism and refuge as sites of privilege in which the dominant discourse is replicated has been aided by the concept of "cis privilege". This allows, within the category ‘woman’, an analysis of the power male people hold over female people to be turned on its head (the privileged woman is she who has a vagina, who must therefore cede space to others while remaining silent about the relationship between her sexed body and her own social status). This reassessment of those who must be included in women-only spaces has enabled those who simply do not want women to meet and share knowledge to reframe separatism (the act of the group without power denying access to the group with power) as segregation (in which the group with the power excludes the group without it).”
Marilyn Frye
Found this on the 4B subreddit.
“But I didn't and still don't like making a cult of women's knowledge, preening ourselves on knowing things men don't know, women's deep irrational wisdom, women's instinctive knowledge of Nature, and so on. All that all too often merely reinforces the masculinist idea of women as primitive and inferior — women's knowledge as elementary, primitive, always down below at the dark roots, while men get to cultivate and own the flowers and crops that come up into the light. But why should women keep talking baby talk while men get to grow up? Why should women feel blindly while men get to think?”
— Ursula K. Le Guin
sexy but psycho by jessica taylor
Do not waste your time or energy attempting to educate a male. He does not need you to teach him empathy, compassion, or basic human decency. He does not need you to tell him that rape, misogyny, and the oppression of women are bad things.
He knows. They know.
They do not care.
They are not ignorant, or incapable of empathy. They reserve their care, empathy, and respect for other males, and actively deny women those things.
If he sucks? Let him suck. If he's stupid, let him be stupid. If he's useless, let him be useless. If he's lonely, LET HIM BE LONELY. He can resolve those issues himself!
Reserve your empathy, kindness, compassion, and emotional labor for yourself, and the women you care for. And provide nothing to the males.
Unless they start giving all of that energy, labor, respect and empathy BACK to us in full - they get nothing. And I mean nothing. Because right now - no man on earth is truly your ally. If he was, he wouldn't be leeching your time, energy, care and compassion from you. He wouldn't be making you do all of the emotional labor. He wouldn't be emotionally unavailable. He would treat you like a human being that he has full respect for. And so far? I don't see any of them doing that in a truly meaningful way.
Because if he truly had empathy for you, he would be outraged over the oppression you - and all women - face. If he truly had empathy, he would be actively fighting against the system that oppresses women. He would be committed to fighting the patriarchy, because if he had empathy, he would recognize it as the correct and moral thing to do - whether you were involved with him romantically, or not.
The fact that the overwhelming majority of males can't be bothered to give a shit about women's oppression, tells you all you need to know about them.
Focus on yourself first. Your loved ones next. Then your friends. And males - never.
Because you're not even last to them - when you don't even make the list as a real human being in their eyes. You're not first, second, or last if you don't even exist on the list to them in the first place.
Give them the same treatment in return.
They haven't earned anything better.
Don't bother arguing with them or attempting to educate them.
Focus on yourself, other women, raising awareness, solidarity, community and activism.
The males can figure it out on their own. You don't owe them anything - and they certainly don't deserve you holding their hands through jack shit.
They don't deserve you, period.
It’s admittedly difficult for me to accept people’s ignorance like if you don’t see the millions of women suffering worldwide, the hundred thousands of femicide and rape and trafficking and DV, majority of which are female victims suffering under male perpetrators, and you want to pretend female oppression isn’t that bad compared to LGBT or racial oppression, I do not give a single fuck about your opinions or causes. If you think misandry is bad I think you are a fucking idiot. If you see that 99% of rape, 98% of mass shootings, and 90% of violent crimes are committed by the male population and refuse to admit that something is seriously fucked up with men, and women have legitimate reasons to hate men then I think you are a horrible, cold, unsympathetic asshole. Lots of you can justify a black person or POC hating white people, LGBT person hating cishets, or any other oppressed demographic resenting their oppressor demographic but you refuse to extend the same sympathy towards women. Misogyny is so normalized you cannot accept that women are humans with feelings such as anger, sadness, and hatred. We get shamed for being bitter feminists and our negative emotions are constantly shamed and invalidated. Every single one of you have been complicit in the brutal oppression of women and violation of our human rights.
prostitution is work just like child labour is work. something being "work" does not make it okay, you little capitalists.
Terfs Pretend to care about how destructive sex work is for cis women. But literally less than 2% of the cis women population are sex workers, whilst 14% of the trans community does sex work. And trans sex workers are 1.8 times more likely to be victims of violence and over 6 times more likely to be killed
and the proportion is even higher among trans women of color
btw trans women on sex work get less money than any cis woman does
they also didn't talk about how most of these are thrown there being minors, minors who were kicked out of their own homes by their own parents
no parent kicks a cis woman out of their house by being a cis woman
This is like when someone brings up male suicide rate when women try to advocate for women’s rights. Or brings up false accusations when women speak up about rape.
I hate to say it but the male mentality and selfishness of so-called trans rights activists is astounding. You can’t even let people advocate for something without making it specifically about yourself. Nothing about op’s post even suggests that she’s okay with the prostitution of trans women. You just assumed that way and vilified her.
“No parent kicks a cis woman out for being a cis woman” There are countries where women are banned from education and healthcare for being women. The practice of honor killing and marrying underage girls and women to their rapists still exist to this day. There are online communities where 70,000 men share graphic photos and videos of them raping their mothers and sisters. Do you ever speak about those or do you only demand cis women speak about your issues?
Also you all suck at statistics.
women create life and then men appropriate it by giving his name to the child; “she’s pregnant with his child”, “we’re pregnant” we’re expecting”; he celebrates the “dad bod”. contemporarly, men say it’s women’s job to reproduce, it’s her duty, it’s her purpose; her pregnant and post-partum body is ruined and disgusting, she can’t “let herself go”, she needs to do better and “get back on track”.
women create community, art, technology and then men appropriate it by locking her away and stealing her labour, energy and time. contemporarly, men say she has to serve his unilateral society, he calls her art bland or absurd, her technology is forgotten, stolen or unimportant; nothing is ever enough to compare to his society, his art, his technology, she always needs to do better.
do you see the connection? this is why i say creation is female. a man can only create because a woman decided to create him first. this is why patriarchy destroys.
Just a very friendly reminder that radical feminism would be incomplete without gender critical theory. There is no such thing as a “trans-inclusive radical feminist” and anyone who calls themselves that isn’t a radfem.
There are quite a few new “radical feminist” accounts popping up, claiming to be trans-inclusive with some having posts clearly being written with ChatGPT. I personally think this is an attempt to either influence our opinions and or invade our spaces. It would be best to not interact with these accounts. Don’t like, comment, reblog or report whatsoever. Even if you are going to call them out. Don’t give them an audience.
you can be gender critical without being explicitly trans exclusionary (even though trans people may not think so). of course we are radical feminists and want to abolish gender, but that doesn’t mean it’s top priority to belittle transgender people or identity, who are merely a symptom of the problem of widespread gender ideology (aka modern gender roles and gender hyperfocus in society). they are misled and ignorant, and brainwashed down to the core with gender propaganda. not some new conspiracy, but old gender propaganda.
i’ve said this several times and i’ll say it until the lamb eats the fucking lion: the main problem is gender ideology. not the undercover way of saying trans ideology, actual gender ideology. the one spread by iron-age religions, modern gender performance, conservatives, advertisements, movies, media, clothing stores, books, music, little misogynistic sayings that make you want to bash your head in. the ones so old you can find them in hieroglyphs. the stereotypes and expectations of women and men based off nothing but what they do with their genitals. the propaganda of the man coming first and the woman being his offshoot, the propaganda of the male warrior and the female scavenger. THAT’s the problem that we radical feminists aim to dismantle, that bullshit and all of its little disgusting offshoots. and while trans ideology is one of its biggest offshoots, we’re nowhere NEAR close to dismantling the big problem enough for focusing on trans ideology to matter much at all. have some goddamn strategy. this is a biblically accurate angel of hatred and discrimination, not just a few one-headed beasts.
black and white thinking will kill radical feminism long before the evil trans woman “swinging her dick in your face” (existing in front of you) does. focus on the task at hand. we must kill the heart of gender first.