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Howdy everyone
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Everything else is unrelated
BBC Merlin is like Star Wars in a way where it Could Have Been So Good And We All Know It
It’s finally happened.
After almost a decade on this site, I found another Tumblr user in the wild. I stopped to tie my shoe with rainbow laces this morning outside the silversmith at Colonial Williamsburg, and I heard it.
“I like your shoelaces.”
Oh. Oh no.
I responded the only way I could. “Thanks.” And then I reluctantly added, “I stole them from the president…and if that makes sense to you, I’m very sorry.”
The poor man, in full Colonial dress, stared at me for a long moment. And then burst into laughter. And said, “I haven’t thought about that in YEARS and this has never happened to me before.”
Yeah. Me neither. Not until today.
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the massacre is an all-timer of a doctor who serial. it's a historical, but it's specifically a historical about an event that the vast majority of viewers would be unfamiliar with. william hartnell is there twice but you'd never notice because the entire thing is missing. it has probably one of the greatest confrontations and speeches by both the doctor and his companion in doctor who history. the historical event in question is one of the bloodiest, most violent, most genuinely sickening in french history, and to be honest just history in general. steven suffers more in this one than he usually does, which is really saying something. the doctor just fucking abandons him in one of the most violent periods in french history. dodo is also there
#dear penny Anna whomst I am reblogging this from#I have been seeing posts about the massacre for years#I am not a doctor who fan.#I am a history nerd#Is this about St. Bartholomews day massacre?#Every fucking screenshot I've seen has that doctor guy and his entourage of young men dressed in late 16th century garb#First of all they are slaying but back on topic#What the hell happens. What do we know#Maybe I should correct something#Maybe I am not a doctor who fan. Yet.#I have been asking myself this question for a long time. Please. Anyone. Tell me if it is that masacre
yes, it's the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre. you sometimes see the story referred to as 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'*
tragically there are not screenshots at all as it's a missing story w no visual record; the images you've seen are photographs taking during the dress rehearsal.
*(some 60s who stories have multiple titles in use)**
**(I think 'The Massacre' is generally preferred as the historical event is not called 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve' on account of it took place on the day itself and not the eve but I think the title might actually be referring to the fact that the events take place on the eve of the massacre given that there is a pivotal scene where the Doctor realises the massacre is going to happen the following day but i digress)
apologies if this is a bit of a tangent but it’s been on my mind for a while - ‘the massacre of st bartholemew’s eve’ is also a phrase used in the first english translation of alexandre dumas’s la reine margot, which features the massacre of the huguenots as its inciting incident
[ID: An anonymous English translation (Margaret of Navarre: or the Massacre of St. Bartholemew's Eve, London: G. Pierce, 2 vols.), based on the text of the serialisation, was rushed out immediately. However, the somewhat compressed Marguerite de Valois: An Historical Romance (London: David Bogue, 1846) was preferred by English and American publishers who were to reprint it regularly.]
(from the oxford world classics edition)
james cooray smith in his black archive on the doctor who serial also suggests that it might not have been as unknown a piece of history at the time as is generally assumed, since there had been a high profile adaptation of la reine margot under a decade before.
conclusion: the weirdness of the longer title miighht be the fault of some anonymous nineteenth century french to english translator? i guess it depends on when and who titled it that in production and how aware they were of dumas 🤔
would that be this film adaptation?
that WOULD make sense as a number of 60s historicals were clearly heavily influenced by film(The Romans, The Gunfighters).
the massacre is an all-timer of a doctor who serial. it's a historical, but it's specifically a historical about an event that the vast majority of viewers would be unfamiliar with. william hartnell is there twice but you'd never notice because the entire thing is missing. it has probably one of the greatest confrontations and speeches by both the doctor and his companion in doctor who history. the historical event in question is one of the bloodiest, most violent, most genuinely sickening in french history, and to be honest just history in general. steven suffers more in this one than he usually does, which is really saying something. the doctor just fucking abandons him in one of the most violent periods in french history. dodo is also there
#dear penny Anna whomst I am reblogging this from#I have been seeing posts about the massacre for years#I am not a doctor who fan.#I am a history nerd#Is this about St. Bartholomews day massacre?#Every fucking screenshot I've seen has that doctor guy and his entourage of young men dressed in late 16th century garb#First of all they are slaying but back on topic#What the hell happens. What do we know#Maybe I should correct something#Maybe I am not a doctor who fan. Yet.#I have been asking myself this question for a long time. Please. Anyone. Tell me if it is that masacre
yes, it's the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre. you sometimes see the story referred to as 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'*
tragically there are not screenshots at all as it's a missing story w no visual record; the images you've seen are photographs taking during the dress rehearsal.
*(some 60s who stories have multiple titles in use)**
**(I think 'The Massacre' is generally preferred as the historical event is not called 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve' on account of it took place on the day itself and not the eve but I think the title might actually be referring to the fact that the events take place on the eve of the massacre given that there is a pivotal scene where the Doctor realises the massacre is going to happen the following day but i digress)
#THANK YOU I was RIGHT!! MY FASHION GUESSING WAS ON POINT! that's a win#Fascinated by this#so curious what could they have possibly been doing#because by this point there is material on St Bartholomews day masscaacre (the historical event)#Dumas and Mérimée had both written their respective novels on the subject#And There's So many ways to take a story with this#like how heftily did they interact with historical people?#Does doctor who pass Henry of Navarra in the streets and tip his hat?#Does doctor who sneak about the Louvre and detangle the schemes of Catherine de Medici?#im starting to understand y'all's obsession with this
ok so i guarantee you will not be able to guess what they do with it bcos it's genuinely so odd fgkhdfg. im going to cut this it got long.
okay. Wow. Holy shit. Some thoughts under cut with obvious spoilers for historical and fictional events. I respect wanting to find out history for yourself even if it's already happened so go forth and do that I guess
THEY GET INVOLVED WITH COLIGNY????? THAT'S. HMM. UNWELL. MY GOD. ok.
While i don't know if Charles Preslin and Anne Chaplet were real, odds are the doctors advice to stay inside on the day of the massacre probably wouldn't have done jack shit, on account of how the whole thing started at night anyway, when most people (COLIGNY INCLUDED) were inside their houses and this did nothing to protect them. (You can find out more by looking up what happened to Coligny's corpse, but I do warn you it's not for the weak and particularly gruly and brutal.)
Anyway. Amboise is an interesting name to pick because it reminds me of the Amboise conspiracy, albeit that was in 1560 and the massacre itself in 1572. The Amboise conspiracy involved kidnapping the then 15 year old king Francis II. (Didn't work. )
Anyway, this is a more normal plot i guess if you can call it that? I mean as long as Steven isn't personally sneaking into the chambers of Marguerite de Valois, sister of the king, you're kind of in the clear ? It is however compelling to think of a better plot. I have 0 credentials and have never seen a single doctor who ep so I will not be doing that but I can provide some historical information.
as someone with an interest in both sixteenth century religion and doctor who it is very entertaining to watch the two collide from people who are only familiar with one or the other
the massacre is an all-timer of a doctor who serial. it's a historical, but it's specifically a historical about an event that the vast majority of viewers would be unfamiliar with. william hartnell is there twice but you'd never notice because the entire thing is missing. it has probably one of the greatest confrontations and speeches by both the doctor and his companion in doctor who history. the historical event in question is one of the bloodiest, most violent, most genuinely sickening in french history, and to be honest just history in general. steven suffers more in this one than he usually does, which is really saying something. the doctor just fucking abandons him in one of the most violent periods in french history. dodo is also there
#dear penny Anna whomst I am reblogging this from#I have been seeing posts about the massacre for years#I am not a doctor who fan.#I am a history nerd#Is this about St. Bartholomews day massacre?#Every fucking screenshot I've seen has that doctor guy and his entourage of young men dressed in late 16th century garb#First of all they are slaying but back on topic#What the hell happens. What do we know#Maybe I should correct something#Maybe I am not a doctor who fan. Yet.#I have been asking myself this question for a long time. Please. Anyone. Tell me if it is that masacre
yes, it's the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre. you sometimes see the story referred to as 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'*
tragically there are not screenshots at all as it's a missing story w no visual record; the images you've seen are photographs taking during the dress rehearsal.
*(some 60s who stories have multiple titles in use)**
**(I think 'The Massacre' is generally preferred as the historical event is not called 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve' on account of it took place on the day itself and not the eve but I think the title might actually be referring to the fact that the events take place on the eve of the massacre given that there is a pivotal scene where the Doctor realises the massacre is going to happen the following day but i digress)
#THANK YOU I was RIGHT!! MY FASHION GUESSING WAS ON POINT! that's a win#Fascinated by this#so curious what could they have possibly been doing#because by this point there is material on St Bartholomews day masscaacre (the historical event)#Dumas and Mérimée had both written their respective novels on the subject#And There's So many ways to take a story with this#like how heftily did they interact with historical people?#Does doctor who pass Henry of Navarra in the streets and tip his hat?#Does doctor who sneak about the Louvre and detangle the schemes of Catherine de Medici?#im starting to understand y'all's obsession with this
ok so i guarantee you will not be able to guess what they do with it bcos it's genuinely so odd fgkhdfg. im going to cut this it got long.
okay. Wow. Holy shit. Some thoughts under cut with obvious spoilers for historical and fictional events. I respect wanting to find out history for yourself even if it's already happened so go forth and do that I guess
THEY GET INVOLVED WITH COLIGNY????? THAT'S. HMM. UNWELL. MY GOD. ok.
While i don't know if Charles Preslin and Anne Chaplet were real, odds are the doctors advice to stay inside on the day of the massacre probably wouldn't have done jack shit, on account of how the whole thing started at night anyway, when most people (COLIGNY INCLUDED) were inside their houses and this did nothing to protect them. (You can find out more by looking up what happened to Coligny's corpse, but I do warn you it's not for the weak and particularly gruly and brutal.)
Anyway. Amboise is an interesting name to pick because it reminds me of the Amboise conspiracy, albeit that was in 1560 and the massacre itself in 1572. The Amboise conspiracy involved kidnapping the then 15 year old king Francis II. (Didn't work. )
Anyway, this is a more normal plot i guess if you can call it that? I mean as long as Steven isn't personally sneaking into the chambers of Marguerite de Valois, sister of the king, you're kind of in the clear ? It is however compelling to think of a better plot. I have 0 credentials and have never seen a single doctor who ep so I will not be doing that but I can provide some historical information.
the massacre is an all-timer of a doctor who serial. it's a historical, but it's specifically a historical about an event that the vast majority of viewers would be unfamiliar with. william hartnell is there twice but you'd never notice because the entire thing is missing. it has probably one of the greatest confrontations and speeches by both the doctor and his companion in doctor who history. the historical event in question is one of the bloodiest, most violent, most genuinely sickening in french history, and to be honest just history in general. steven suffers more in this one than he usually does, which is really saying something. the doctor just fucking abandons him in one of the most violent periods in french history. dodo is also there
#dear penny Anna whomst I am reblogging this from#I have been seeing posts about the massacre for years#I am not a doctor who fan.#I am a history nerd#Is this about St. Bartholomews day massacre?#Every fucking screenshot I've seen has that doctor guy and his entourage of young men dressed in late 16th century garb#First of all they are slaying but back on topic#What the hell happens. What do we know#Maybe I should correct something#Maybe I am not a doctor who fan. Yet.#I have been asking myself this question for a long time. Please. Anyone. Tell me if it is that masacre
yes, it's the St Bartholomew's Day Massacre. you sometimes see the story referred to as 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve'*
tragically there are not screenshots at all as it's a missing story w no visual record; the images you've seen are photographs taking during the dress rehearsal.
*(some 60s who stories have multiple titles in use)**
**(I think 'The Massacre' is generally preferred as the historical event is not called 'The Massacre of St Bartholomew's Eve' on account of it took place on the day itself and not the eve but I think the title might actually be referring to the fact that the events take place on the eve of the massacre given that there is a pivotal scene where the Doctor realises the massacre is going to happen the following day but i digress)
the massacre is an all-timer of a doctor who serial. it's a historical, but it's specifically a historical about an event that the vast majority of viewers would be unfamiliar with. william hartnell is there twice but you'd never notice because the entire thing is missing. it has probably one of the greatest confrontations and speeches by both the doctor and his companion in doctor who history. the historical event in question is one of the bloodiest, most violent, most genuinely sickening in french history, and to be honest just history in general. steven suffers more in this one than he usually does, which is really saying something. the doctor just fucking abandons him in one of the most violent periods in french history. dodo is also there
Wait hold on what do we mean Gillenormand and Bolkonsky are the same guy
Thematically! not literally. Horrible old men who treat their daughters (and everyone else) caring for them like garbage, while angrily holding on to the memories of a perceived Glorious Youth instead of doing anything Now
WORLD'S BIGGEST SILLINESS IS HAPPENING
Is the fact that I'm posting again a recession indicator or is the fact that you people are reblogging my post a recession indicator?
The ominous chest I keep under my desk: *hums*
What was that
i need every actor who has played monty to just spend an hour together in character. all of them, every cover and principal. put them all in a room, with a camera for our entertainment, and tell them not to break character. let chaos occur.
julia monty is going to change lives
No one's doing it like actors playing Colonel Johnny Bevan . You're telling me the role is Strict British Officer, IAN FLEMING, Silly British Man in a red Hat and Passerby who says "No"? And you get to be a mean bitch? Hell yeah girl
hi, french speaker here. not super versed on hugo but i have found the 1972 version and the page numbers cited and it does seem to check out. page 521 specifically says "We are accustomed, here in 'Choses vues', to the secret vocabulary and writing of Victor Hugo. Certain phrases are still enigmatic, other have "keys", often simple. Thus, when Victor Hugo, talking about a conquest, writes "Switzerland", which is the country of milk, he means breasts. Sometimes he wrote, to describe the same thing, the saints or the torso." (my translation) it continues on with explaining more coded phrases. the other cited page (371) is a section of hugos diary where he refers to "very loud/strong knocking at my bedside". make of that what you will
thank you so much for the translation!! I'm going to append it to the post. I appreciate you!
Never too late to make friends with the kid.
this barricade day let's remember Évariste "got sent to jail for threatening to kill Louis Philippe" Galois, who absolutely would've also been at the barricade if he had not died on May 31st
(the jail part is real, the cause may be exaggerated. But my boy Galois is the intersection of Les Mis and mathematics and he had a somewhat mysterious and very tragic death, so I recommend looking into his life)
better than that, his funeral might have been the trigger if Lamarque hadn't died. There's a lot.
Good starting point is "Genius and Biographers" by Tony Rothman!
YES OH MY GOD I'm glad someone mentioned it!! I was unsure if the book I'd read about him ("Whom the Gods Love" by Leopold Infeld if anyone's curious) was being serious about this but I guess it was!!
Yeah Galois got sent to Sainte-Pélagie twice and had only been free for about a month when he died. Also no one knows where he's buried!
tooting my own horn but Galois/Combeferre exists! (there should be lots of AUs though!)
This is generational intel holy shit