I have a question for polyamorous people that I hope isn't weird for y'all to answer.
So I've been creating a supernatural tv show for the past 2-3 years and the main relationship in the show is sapphic. I was going to keep it that way until recently after watching a movie with a love triangle in it and wanting said triangle to become poly at the end (shocker, it didn't happen). Point is, the movie made me want to include a poly relationship in my show, and I want to change my sapphic relationship into a poly one.
Some background of the show is a woman falls in love with a vampire that moves into her town. We'll call them Leading Woman and Vampire A. What I'm thinking of doing is having some events happen and the two fall out for a few episodes. During the fallout, the Leading Woman starts to have feelings for the vampire brother of Vampire A. (No, this isn't her blood brother. They're both adopted on the basis of having the same maker.) Leading Woman is still in love with the brother, even after rekindling her relationship with Vampire A. She then makes the choice of wanting to be with both of them instead of choosing between the two.
Here lies my question: Would it be weird to have a polyamorous relationship with two siblings, even if the siblings won't be engaging in incest? It'll just be Leading Woman loves Vampire A and Brother Vampire, Vampire A and Brother Vampire love Leading Woman, and Vampire A and Brother Vampire have their platonic relationship.
After rewatching the season, it seems like Jocelyn was in control the whole time. From the first time Jocelyn sees Tedros and hears his opinions on how her music should be, a plan starts to form in her head. She's thinking "if I could get him to inspire me musically, I'll appease him and make him think he's in control." Did she go about it the wrong way? Of course, but maybe that's the point. Up until the last episode, we're on her side wanting her to wake up and understand that Tedros is playing her, but she played Tedros and us (the audience).
The confusing thing about this, still, is was she being abused by her mother or was this all an elaborate hoax made up to get people on her side? Going back to the Xander torture scene, he calls Jocelyn and her mom "cunts" and controlling everything people do around her. Was he actually lying about her mom or was he telling a small amount of the truth? You also have to think about her team knowing as well. To my knowledge the only ones who knew, or at least talked about it, was Xander and possibly Leia. It seemed like Destiny, Chaim, and Nikki didn't know or never talked about it.
I have more questions than I should after watching this, and I feel like that's a big problem. Five episodes really was not enough for this season because there's so many plot holes and continuities that just don't add up. I blame the show runner and HBO because they're the ones who decides how many episodes are in a season.
So, I just watched the season finale of The Idol, and I've never been more confused in my entire life (i actually have been, but I'm being dramatic). To have her manager try and get rid of him just to end up taking him back, even after the shit he did, was so stupid. Not to mention, things that were said about Tedros in the past 4 episodes were just forgotten. Sam either needs to learn how to write better or let someone else do it, because there's so many plot holes and confusing things about this.
I say all that to say, if the show is renewed by some happenstance, it should become an anthology series instead of focusing on Jocelyn and Tedros' relationship because it seems, based off the finale, like they're good. There's really no cliffhanger to hold on to, unless you count her team trying to get rid of him again, but that'll be boring since they've done that already.
What HBO should do is make the show have seasons with different stories from different industries like film/tv, fashion, sports, maybe even have a kind of politician like character. It won't bore the audience with these different stories because it'll be focused on the issues in their respective industries. HBO should also force Sam Levinson to have a damn writers room so they won't have another mess like this first season was.
If you felt uncomfortable or grossed out, then that’s a good thing, he says.
For those that believe Abel himself is a bad guy just from his character, I advise you to read this article. It explains why his character is the way that he is, and why he says and does certain things in the show. It's also a good reminder that viewers of any show/movie should not equate the character with the actor/actress playing them.
My unasked watch through of The Idol episode 2 *SPOILERS*
the warning has already made me even more nervous (yes i know there was a warning in the last episode, but this one is ehhhhhhhhhh)
i stg if he actually does do some dirty talking shit in this, i don't think i can finish. i get second hand embarrassment terribly
i do not like jane adams. like at all.
NOT THE EUPHORIA TEXT FONT LMAOOO COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW
ooh girl, he ain't picking up? oop
oooohhhhhhhhh, this is when her mother died. scratch what i said before then
wait, when did her mom die? she said she was inspired last night so that obviously means that this picks up the day after the events of last episode. I thought this was a flashback I'm so confused.
YOU STARTED THE SONG OFF WITH MOANING?????? GIRL YOU ARE NOT DONNA SUMMER
honestly the original version was great fck anyone who doesn't think it was
leia nodding to it like the bestie she is, YOU COULD NEVER MAKE ME HATE HER
if that was me showing my team a new version of a song, i'd be standing there shitting bricks pls
00000000KKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY that was....some transition. at least the beginning scene ain't 20 minutes this time
damn i gotta mute this, my mom's in the other room lol
oh we're back cool
WHY IS NIKKI ALWAYS ATTACKING XANDER BACK OFF BITCH
managers/agents/record labels probably act like this in real life. if she don't like it, she don't like it. she's the one making you money dummy
LEIA SAY SOMETHING (i know she won't bc she's a shy girly) PLS
THIS MAN STILL ISN'T PICKING UP HIS PHONE GIRL YOU'RE BEING PLAYED
so Chaim is like the dad figure for her aww
why am i enjoying this
the new version of the song sounds like it could be played in step up with all that breathing. i can see them doing a chest pump with it Imao
"why'd you play them the song?" SHUT UP BRO YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERING HER TEXTS WTF WERE YOU DOING????????
YOU'RE PHONE WAS ON SILENT PLS GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE BRO I CAN'T STAND YOU
we don't even know the passage of time because that damn studio has no windows BUT HE LEFT HIS PHONE ON FUCKING SILENT BRO
• i'm just typing angrily on my keyboard right now, this man has me so heated
if i was jocelyn, i would not have answered bc you just ghosted me after we had that good good and applesauce and NOW YOU WANNA TALK?
at least the scenes are progressing faster than the pilot
izaak is def...ya know💅🏿
DID HE JUST INTERRUPT HER?? AFTER SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT HIM FOR THE PAST FEW HOURS???
she said "i am the id babes" PERIOD
LET HER KEEP DOING IT SHE WANTS IT TO BE BETTER YOU BITCHES
she's obviously going through something and no one is sensing that
NIKKI YOU WERE THERE WHEN DYANNE WAS DOING THE DANCE HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW WHO SHE IS
Chaim really is a father figure to her awwwwwwwwwwww
THEY GOT A PI ON TEDROS LMAOOO THAT'S WHAT YOU GET WHORE
I love DaVine she's so mother
NIKKI YOU BTICH
how can they shoot it if dyanne's not there?
please tell me the music video is coming out
NO THE FUCKING CAMERA ISN'T WORKING Y'ALL SHOULD'VE HAD SOMEONE ON TOP OF THIS WHAT WERE YOU DOING DURING THAT 15 MINUTE BREAK BRO?????
so instead of just cutting, they let her do the whole routine while the shot was OUT OF FOCUS??? I'd fight that director on the spot i'm so heated
it don't matter if i'm giving 110%, if i'm not seen yell cut and fix the shit
now she's gonna mess up again and they're gonna be on her ass bc she wants it to be perfect
the filmmaker in me is trembling in anger i'd light that damn set on fire
director? fired. dp? dropped. 1st ac? probably didn't do anything, but that's why the take is shitty so they're gone too
they need to call it a day bc she's literally hurting herself
HE HAS A SHOCK COLLAR ON IZAAK WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU BRO
that $450,000 ain't worth her health
oh, she's breaking. end it for the day y'all, she's been pushed too much
of course this is gonna drive her into tedros' arms even more
PEP TALK HER INTO IT? NO SHE NEEDS TO GO HOME AND REST
DAVINE YOU'RE NOW MY FAVORITE CHARACTER BC SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT NONE OF THOSE BITCHES WOULDN'T BE THERE WITHOUT JOCELYN
it's kinda giving "black best friend", but i still fuck with it
oh SHUT UP NIKKI NO ONE LIKES YOU
OH FUCK YOU NIKKI YOU BITCH HOW DARE YOU JUST REPLACE HER
sam levinson loves his zoom ins and zoom outs
"hello angel" fuck off bro
DYANNE NO
DYANNE WHAT THE HECK BRO
are you sure you should be wearing heels babe?
at least he has transportation
what a beautiful chocolate man
NOW WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN SWIM IN THAT GIRLS POOL? WITH NOTHING ON?
ok but who's the black girl?
DO NOT CORRUPT MY INNOCENT GIRL LEIA WITH YOUR FOOLISHNESS TEDROS
CHOLE WHO SAID YOU CAN TAKE A TOUR?
that wig was professionally done at the Tyler Perry School of Wigs lord FIX IT
WHAT IS CHLOE DOING?????
WHAT. IS. CHLOE. DOING.
wait, DID HE TELL CHLOE THE SAME THINGS?
okay, it's getting very wattpad/ao3 right now
or is chloe wanting to be her?
HIS MOANS........
thought the sex scenes would be worse than this tbh, but that isaac and leia one was a jumpscare ngl
MOVE IN? WHAT THE FUCK
chloe can play and sang baby
WHERE DID THE BLACK GIRL GO????
YES HARMONY
oh poor leia
but like seriously WHERE DID THE FUCKING BLACK GIRL GO?????????
my overall opinion of the episode: way better than the first. I didn't feel that it was dragging on at any point. the writing is still a little iffy, although I understand why some characters say certain things. Abel, babe, either the acting ain't it bc the script is off or he just can't act. Like there were points were I liked his acting, but then he'd do something that just deducted 10 points for me. Not to mention that last scene when they were at Jocelyn's house and he started talking dirty to her, I wanted to throw myself out the window bc it was giving Wattpad/AO3 vibes and not in a good way. Overall, I give this episode a 7/10. Do with that what you will.
My unasked review of the 1st episode of The Idol after watching it 2x because I kept pausing during the first time
The writing on this show is a hit or miss. I felt myself kinda cringing at certain points because why would you have your actors do that? Also, 30 minutes for one scene? When all of that could've been half that time? A waste.
I think the best thing about this episode was the cinematography. I am a graduated film student, so of course my eyes and brain would pay attention to the way things look because that's what four years of film school has ingrained in me. The shot where Jocelyn is in that rectangle all alone was sooo good. The one shot I didn't like was the bar scene in Jocelyn's house. There was so much shaky cam, I almost thought this was a found footage show. It ain't that hard to put the damn camera on a tripod. You did it for all the other shots.
The acting was also fine? Lily and Rachel are amazing, Troye was so so, Abel.... I'll just see what the second episode has to offer. Jennie was serving during that dance number, as she fucking should. Jane Adams annoyed me, mostly because of the rumors about her on set behavior and what she did to Lily.
I was surprised to not see a bunch of sex in this episode. The way critics were talking about it made it seem like there was sex every 5 minutes. Then again, they did watch 2 episodes so this episode might be the calm before the shit storm.
One thing I have learned after following this whole show's ordeal is that writers rooms are very, very, VERY important. As we all know, Sam Levinson doesn't have a writers room because he believes he can write all of this himself. He's like the white Tyler Perry, although Tyler Perry gathered some type of sense in the past few years because he now has writers rooms for his shows. What I want to see is the original script for this show, because cast and crew has said that that script was amazing, and then they changed it to fit Sam's needs, ego, or whatever. I love Abel down, but jfc I am getting pushover vibes from him, just from this alone. This is the same man who demanded to keep his masters, and you mean to tell me he folded and decided to rewrite an amazing script for a white man? A MEDIOCRE WHITE MAN AT THAT??? I get not wanting to burn bridges in the beginning of your film career, but there's a difference between burning a bridge and making a boundary, which Sam and HBO (because they decided to add him on instead of getting someone else) crossed. I have more hope for the movie he's gonna be in since that was written by the director who did "It Comes At Night" and "Waves".
My final thoughts: I'm not gonna say HBO should've cancelled it based off the first episode alone, but if the rest of them are ass backwards, then yes they should've cancelled it. Not like they're worried about losing money since Batgirl was cancelled AFTER IT WAS FILMED (I know Warner Brothers cancelled it, but HBO is under them so 🤷🏿♀️).
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