The importance of things that cannot be recovered

undertaker x claudia shipper/ roleplayer: selective indie Claudia Phantomhive and Undertaker (Kuroshitsuji) / Kuroshitsuji theories fan / Mun 21+ / warning nsfw / minors DNI

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Another art where Undertaker is with a female skeleton (both have a matching ribbon) that may be Claudia's

They look in delight at oCiel and Lizzy in wedding outfit (marriage that would mean a continuation of celtic bloodline?)

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Reblog if you’re over 20 and still read/write fan fiction.

I’m curious!

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Over 30. Without fanfiction my life would be empty.

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Kuroshitsuji Celtic Theory - another hint

On this official drawing of Yana we can see Ciel (I think it's Ciel, not Vincent, because the outfit appeared in the manga) bringing to Undertaker the Fenian Cycle ( we can read "-nian" on the cover).

We can see also the book in Theo's hand on the Undertaker's blood (or rather as knew just found out internal organs) farm.

No we know for sure "Fenian Cycle" wasn't just a book that Vincent used to read to the twins when they were small. It connects very strongly with Undertaker and his goals.

@azuresins ( tagging because I know you also like this theory)

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Undertaker muse

I'm thinking about roleplaying Undertaker, so if you want to interact with him on my blog you should know that I'm going to play as close canon Ut as possible.

So I'm not going to create any wild headcanons, however maybe I'm going to use the theory about Undertaker and Phantomhives having Celts roots and for sure the theory of Undertaker being Cedric K. Ros.

If the manga would reveal or change any details about Undertaker I'm going to immediately adapt to those facts.

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Is Frances Midford (home name Phantomhive) an albino?

It's not canon since Frances colours are from the anime (Book of Atlantic), but I believe her hair and eyes colors were somehow confirmed by Yana.

Hair without any pigment and violet/pink eyes in the real world means an albino.

If this would be canon in the manga too and the theory about Undertaker being the father (and Yana confirmed that women in the Phantomhive family take after their fathers) would be also true, it fits that Undertaker was also an albino when he was alive and had then violet/pink eyes.

@abybweisse (because I don't want you to miss this idea)

Additionally if the celtic theory would be true:

Undertaker (or rather Cedric K. Ros) with his natural white hair could be a natural leader among Celts.

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Cedric K Ros, aka Undertaker, is likely Celtic/Irish

I was doing research about the origins of the name Cedric K Ros, and discovered it has Irish/Celtic roots.

The name Ros means 'rose'. And we often see Undertaker portrayed

with roses.

Further reinforcing this theory, I also learned that the Celtic men often wore their hair in braids such as these:

Which makes Undertaker's hairstyle in the Akuma 6 art and the book of Circus art all the more interesting.

The ancient Celtic belief in Ireland was that the head is the essence of one’s soul and that hair was indicative of powers.

That’s why during battles, the heads of the enemy were collected and displayed. Hair had a kind of magical symbolism, an indication of one’s supernatural connections. It was considered disgraceful to cut short one’s hair or beard. If you wanted to humiliate someone you would cut his hair and he would have to hide out and let it grow before showing his face in public again.

I found this bit especially interesting, considering how much more powerful Undertaker seems to be in comparison to the other reapers.

He collectively spanked Ronald's, Grelle's, AND Sebastian's ass red on the Campania, and he did it all single-handedly and with that head of gloriously long hair.

Source: http://irishfireside.com/2011/08/25/all-about-that-celtic-hair/

Celtic men also wore Unascs, which are earrings.

Historically, gold earrings were worn by high-class men to show their status. An earring was once called an Unasc, which comes from ‘u’ (the ear) and ‘nasc’ (a clasp or ring). There were several kinds of ear clasp worn by men, but it seems that the ear was not always pierced. Instead, a thin ring was clasped around the ear, and from this, another smaller ring was suspended.

Source: https://www.irishjewelrycraft.com/blog/irish-jewelry-tips/learn-about-irish-earrings

After getting hooked on @azuresins theory of Our Ciel being named Fenian/Finnian, I am now seeing Celtic/Irish symbolism everywhere in the manga. 😂 But there is a lot of evidence to suggest Undertaker himself has Celtic roots.

As I delve deeper into Irish lore and culture, I'm sure I'll find even more connections and will add them to this post.

Thanks for reading! 💖

[azuresins]

I hope it's okay I add some small additions, I wrote this in a rant a long while ago, I'll just copypaste the possibly relevant:

Historians have all agreed unanimously, that the most important part of the Fenian Cycle, is a portion called the "Acallam na Senórach" ( "Tales of the Elders of Ireland"). It's a later tale (as in it was written much later than most of the tales about Fionn, within the Fenian Cycle and added in), told well-after the death of Fionn the Warrior, that features St. Patrick himself. It's believed and accepted by many, because of this portion, that the Fenian Cycle was allowed to continue to exist AT ALL... and wasn't destroyed, by christians. I don't know how much I, or anyone, can stress the importance of integrating the values and culture of pre-Christian Ireland, with the ... "new ways" of the catholic church. It was critical in preserving any of the "old ways" and to keep ANYTHING from getting burned. There are only five original manuscripts in the world that contain the "Acallam na Senórach".

That being said, the oldest surviving manuscript of that five, is in something that was called at the time it was written, "The Book of the White Earl." The "White Earl" was a man named James Butler, an Anglo-Irish lord who also had ties to the 'Ros' family... His grandmother, was a Ros. His scribes and contributions were invaluable, to Irish culture. Celtic culture for many centuries relied on telling their stories and passing them on generationally... not writing them down. Much of what did manage to be written down by scribes were also destroyed by the church. Perhaps Yana made some kind of historical parallel or nod to this when doing her research and choosing surnames? _ Also one thing one might consider, is Undertaker's manner of speech in Japanese. It's similar to a lot of characters that were interpreted to have Irish and Scottish accents, in the english dub... it's not so easy to tell what accent he might have, the UK is a big place. It could be cockney.... or something else.

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Oooh 👀💖 perhaps Undertaker is the white earl!

I always love hearing from you and your theories. ❤️

Thank you so much for this addition! It gives me a lot to think about.

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Wow. The hairstyles and the earrings are interesting. (I’ve read so many head canons and fiction on Undertaker’s braid and how he acquired it but nothing of this sort.)

I still can’t decide if Yana T omitted a letter or several letters on the Cedric K. Ros—. There is the barony of de Ros and the Ross clan in the northeast of Scotland.

In October 2021 I did a research of a probable noble family that starts with Ros for Undertaker’s backstory (finished writing it but am still not satisfied). There used to be a family of that name, the barony of de Ros. Their contribution to the English history is that one of their ancestors, the Anglo-Norman feudal baron Sir Robert de Ros, served as one of the 25 barons who made sure that the Magna Carta was observed by King John. The family was from North Yorkshire, but the intermarriages of their descendants became Celtic. One of them was the grandma, Maud, of the aforementioned James Butler.

But the Clan Ross is Scottish through and through. This is one of their tartan patterns.

@noirserviteur wrote about the tartans that were featured on Artworks 3 a long time ago. But I cannot find the Ross tartan on Ciel’s attire.

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Reblogging for addition! Yes! I'm sorry if I sounded misleading at all! The Ros family as far as I am aware is a Scottish clan -- James Butler had Irish ties and was considered an Irish-Anglo lord (which is additionally misleading since he had Scottish heritage, but go off Historians 😂) because he was granted peerage in Ireland and owned land there, and thought it was worth preserving a lot of staples of Irish culture. He also spoke an Irish dialect of Gaelic, which was pretty noteworthy for the time. His contributions to essentially preserving the Fenian Cycle is why he's such beloved historical figure, in Ireland. This is a big historical stretch and only speculation... one thing I found interesting was the slight spelling variations and that "Ross", "Ros" and sometimes the "De" before "Ros" would be omitted, in a lot of historical listings, letters, ect. adding to further confusion. While the Ross clan isn't on his outfit, the Blackwatch tartan on the cover of the artbook might mean something ... I read that "Clan Ross" is also referred to as "Clan Anrias", and that clan is what the MacKenzie's stemmed from at some point...? Which is interesting because the MacKenzie, Gordon, Munro and Sutherland clans all eventually adopted the Blackwatch patterns, and colors as clan tartans. I don't presume to know what goes on in Yana's mind, but maybe in the Kuro universe the Ros/Ross clan also adopted the Blackwatch tartan?

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What connection has Phantomhive family with Celts?

I found a few things in the manga about that:

Vincent reading to the twins the Fenian Cycle: Celtic Mythology:

 On the Phantomhive family graveyard next to the mansion are graves with Celtic crosses:

and Undertaker is playing with the celtic Sun Cross symbol on this panel. His face is a mix of painful emotions:

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I can't wait for the new season

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Omg, I've just noticed in the chapter 81 where OCiel saluts the Queen from the boat, Charles Phipps has a chicken on his shoulder. He raised the one from the Easter chapter.

How cuuuuute is that? 🥹

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One of those lockets.

Manga July, 2009

December, 2011

January, 2012

September, 2013

Book of Circus, 2014

Book of Atlantic, 2017

Where is the truth?

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Someone has noticed that a stained glass on the Campania (in the anime) is a lady with two children (probably officially it's Holy Maria), but in this case it can be also a symbolism of Claudia with her children and shattered glass falling on Undertaker would be a shattered life (his and his family).

I like this vision, no matter if it was intentional or not in the anime.

The woman even seems to look down at Undertaker. ❤️

The camera in the anime took a move from the head of the woman slowly down to Ut. Such move rarely is unintetional in directing a scene.

Absolutely love it!

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Is Claudia near Undertaker?

During reading the manga again I’ve noticed a skull on a pillow on Undertaker’s desk. I wonder whose it could be?

Undertaker was seen cuddling a skeleton also on other official arts like these below:

What do you think @abybweisse​ ?

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And another official art with Undertaker cuddling a skull. The skull seems to look at hin fondly too. 🥹

When we have that theory about Undertaker and Claudia love I can see only one solution in this case.

Also the one from the Chapter 86 of the manga.

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People who don't believe in or even Hate the undertaker=cedric theory always have tow reasons, 1,they simp over ut so bad that they can't tolerate him having kids with another person 2, it will make him absurd, because love makes things cheap and not interesting, which I highly disagree with,because if there was anything ever between them I highly doubt it was lovey dovey and healthy, I mean we have ut who is a literal death God and I don't see him as a caring and gentle person like many do at all, and then we have claudia p ( I meant c'mon she is the grandmother of ciel and the mother of vincent, just imagine how deranged and manipulative she herself was) so I really think the relationship between tham was fascinating although I don't think we will ever get a flashback of them because it's not relevant to the current story... just wanted to know ur opinion on this.

Some UT x Claudia/Cloudia thoughts

Well, anon, it's an interesting take, and I agree with certain elements of it, but I have to disagree with the rest.

Some fans might simp over him so much they can't stand the thought of him canonically with anyone, and some might find the "I did it for love" motive to be too cliché and boring. But there are other reasons I've seen for why detractors or critics of the theory don't like it.

Many of them can't handle the idea that a reaper could or would mate with a human. I believe it's entirely possible within the Kuroverse; it's just forbidden. Well, when you are a reaper who has deserted your post, why would you care anymore about the rules? In fact, I think he could have his own motives for mating with humans... like giving his human offspring traits that are supposed to be reserved for reapers. Or even with the intention of decreasing the number of new reapers (if they are reborn to reaper couples, as I theorize). A relatively small chunk of the fandom doesn't want Undertaker to be Vincent's father... because they ship those two guys together. Though, finding out they are father and son might not entirely stop them. 😑

It's possible that a relationship between Undertaker and Claudia/Cloudia wouldn't be the healthiest thing for either of them... but I can totally see it being lovey dovey 🥰. Don't forget that well-written characters aren't so one-sided, and they are allowed to be -- for example -- manipulative and cruel and loving and generous, depending on the circumstances. Undertaker can be gentle and caring; he might have been even more so before she died. Grandma P might have been strong willed and possessing of an evil streak a mile wide, but she also might have fallen head over heels for the most attractive male character in the series, according to Yana-san herself. Don't forget that despite him being cruel and manipulative as queen's watchdog, Vincent does truly love his family -- something else Yana-san has previously said. Why wouldn't people like Undertaker and Claudia/Cloudia produce children like Vincent and Francis/Frances? They seem exactly like the sort of offspring I'd imagine from a pairing like that. They might have had children together for more than one reason, but I believe love is one of them. An act of rebellion might be another. 😏

I sure expect at least one flashback of them together, since it's totally relevant to what's going on. Remember when Sebastian asks our earl just how far back they have to follow the series of events to figure out which culprits to target for revenge? Well, I think our earl's problems largely started with that pairing. Or, more specifically, started with people who didn't appreciate that pairing. I think it's why she died when (and however) she did. I think it adds to the various reasons why the Phantomhives were attacked in 1885. Forget the fans who don't like the pairing; there must be someone in the story that doesn't like it, either. Like the queen... or John Brown....

When Sebastian asks Undertaker what his relationship to the Phantomhive family is, he says he'll leave it up to imagination. But, eventually, I expect him to explain it anyway. And that's when we'd likely get at least a panel or two of them together. We could even get several chapters of them together in a long flashback.

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Is Claudia near Undertaker?

During reading the manga again I’ve noticed a skull on a pillow on Undertaker’s desk. I wonder whose it could be?

Undertaker was seen cuddling a skeleton also on other official arts like these below:

What do you think @abybweisse​ ?

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It's here!!!!

Undertaker x Claudia dancing Cantarella!

It's tooooo perfect!