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Pretty sure that was by choice. Labor Movement was one of a variety of courses you I could choose when going for my Bachelor's.
Either that or your program was just crappy.
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Pretty sure that was by choice. Labor Movement was one of a variety of courses you I could choose when going for my Bachelor's.
Either that or your program was just crappy.
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Okay, I read the article.
It doesn't really take a particular stance on the ethics question but it does inform people who are thinking of doing this of the risks:
"Then Perish" - Your current employer might call your bluff and force you to make a choice
"Oh So It's Like That" - The relationship with your current employer may end up strained. This is especially damaging if your endgame is to stay put.
"Jk" - Your new employer might ghost you after you've parted with your previous employer leaving you unemployed
Personally, I feel like this is a great tool to leverage when negotiating salary. However, like all tools, people need to weigh the pros and cons before going through it. I really like the quote in the article mentioning that once you've pulled the trigger on that ultimatum:
“You could go to your employer and say, ‘Hey I got another offer, can you match it?’ and they say, ‘No thanks, you can leave,’ you have to recognize, ‘Hey this might be my new job.’”
In other words, make sure that the offer you're leveraging is an offer you would be comfortable accepting.
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the idea of "if a workplace is good to its workers then they wouldn't need a union" has got things the wrong way around. if a hypothetical workplace already treats its workers right & cares about them then it would have no reason to oppose workers unionizing because a union isn't threatening unless you're abusing your workers :)
I’ve heard of several cases of good workplaces unionizing. None of them made the news because there was no real conflict. The workers say, “Hey, we’re unionizing,” the boss says, “Okay. Let us know when you’re done organizing.” And that’s about it. It actually simplified things a bit for the management because some of the things HR was doing were taken over by the union. Since they weren’t actively trying to exploit the workers, business just went on like usual. Boring as hell.
I believe this is what happened with Southwest Airlines. The workers said “we’re organizing” and the CEO replied “do what you have to do”.
The only company I have ever heard of workers refusing a union was Pitney Bowes. The company was so completely pro-worker that when a union approached the workers, Pitney Bowes was in favor of accepting a Union but the workers rejected it because they felt it wouldn’t provide any tangible improvements.
In this house we respect one corporation: Pitney Bowes.
Look we all want a robo dog but if you kill someone with a sledgehammer to steal theirs, they are going to find you. There's no way a 75k$ dog doesn't have gps
we are killing the dog
NO.
ALL DOGS ARE PRECIOUS.
Even robot ones.
its not a dog, its a machine used and designed for police surveillance and the entire reason they made it dog shaped is so idiots like you would go "awwww robot dog how precious" instead of seeing them as the oppressive tools they are.
we're killing the fucking dog
That's not a robot dog.
It's a four-legged robot spider.
It is not a dog, a spider, a chicken, a horse, a fish, a tick, a mosquito, a tapeworm or a baby
It is a weapon
There is nothing morally wrong about breaking weapons that are hurting people for any reason other than to prevent those people from hurting others worse
the dog robots are fully capable of hurting people, and badly. failsafes that would prevent that have not been installed. the police are deploying a thing out in public that can maim anyone who touches it wrong.
look, when i was a kid i was passionately in love with the idea of robots--that humans would one day create another sort of intelligence to share our world with-- and believed very firmly that we should respect and protect all our robot friends from the start, so there would be no violent humans-against-robots revolution or anything.
anyway it turns out that the people trying to keep end-stage capitalism running are really banking on us feeling more love for the robots than for the kind of people they're going to be using the robots to oppress.
so like. maybe lets all agree right now that if a robot is being used to hurt a person, you need to smash the fucking robot. they're going to make the robots really cute. they're going to show us so many movies about how much robots need to be loved. and then they are going to use robots to hurt people.
let's try not to fall for it, okay?
And don't forget that scary af episode of Black Mirror, Metalhead. Robot dogs can fuck right off.
They created a weapon, told you to call it a friend and watched as your empathy became their trap and tool.
I've been informed that Boston Dynamics is very specific in their TOS that their robots not be weaponized. Other companies have happily turned their robot dogs into weapons and walking privacy violations, but the BD pups are, so far, good doggos. (You can verify this on the company's "about" page)
Ah, the Gun Maker’s Defense from my Business Ethics class:
“I didn’t make my product with the explicit purpose of murdering people. Don’t you know murder is illegal?”
Except not it’s more along the lines of:
“Mechanical surveillance robots don’t violate human rights, governments violate human rights... with a robot my company sold to them.”
Boston Dynamics is accepting contracts from law enforcement and contractors who work for said agencies. If their TOS meant anything or was in any way binding, those “dogs” would be bricked like a failed iPhone jailbreak.
Do not absolve companies of their ethical responsibilities. It just gives them cover to keep doing it while claiming they’re not liable for the end result of their complacency.
The way a lot of financial crime works is by slow acculturation. You show up at work on your first day, bright-eyed and idealistic, and meet your new colleagues. They seem like a great bunch of people, they’re so smart and know so much and seem to be having so much fun. They go out for beers after work a lot, and sometimes they let you tag along and listen to their hilarious jokes and war stories.
During the day, they teach you how to trade Treasury futures, and it is all so exciting and high-stakes and important. You shadow one experienced trader and quickly find yourself imitating his mannerisms, looking up to him, hoping to be like him one day. “Here is where I put in some fake orders to spoof the price higher,” he says; “a little razzle dazzle to juke the algos.”. “Isn’t that, uh, illegal?” you ask timidly. “Hahahaha illegal!” he replies ambiguously. You do not press the matter. Three months later you are bragging in the desk’s electronic chat room about your own big spoofing victories. As you type “lol i just spoofed em so good hope i dont go to jail” into the chat window, you feel a rush of pride; now you really fit in, you are one of them. You go out for beers that evening and you are the center of attention; everyone congratulates you and celebrates your achievements. It is a great day. Six months later you are arrested.
Now imagine the same story except that you show up at work your first day on Zoom, and your colleagues seem kinda nice but talking to them is awkward and disjointed, and you have no idea what they do after work because nobody leaves their house, but you have a Zoom happy hour once and that’s pretty awful. And there is an electronic chat room, sure, and your colleagues make jokes in the chat, but you don’t get a lot of them because they reference stuff that happened in the office, in person, before you arrived. You learn to trade Treasury futures by reading some training materials. “I just put in some fake orders to spoof the price higher”, says one experienced trader in the chat one day. You frown and reference the training materials, which say “spoofing is super duper illegal and should be reported to compliance immediately”. You shrug and send the chat transcript to compliance. Your colleague gets fired and prosecuted. He may or may not feel a sense of personal betrayal that you turned him in, but you’ll never know or care.
The SEC knows what I’m talking about:
“The work-from-home phenomenon has triggered a fresh frustration for U.S. corporations: Americans are blowing the whistle on their employers like never before.”
- Matt Levine
beautiful!
It's almost like peer pressure was part of the company culture.
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THIS IS CAPITALISM!
I mean, this has been Capitalism since the industrial revolution.
Charles Dickens wrote Oliver Twist and A Christmas Carol as a way to shine a light on the plight of the working class.
It was an appeal for empathy from the barons making all the money.
Different Strokes?
I think I left the teller at the bank genuinely disturbed when I told him that “If I can’t afford it, I just don’t buy it.” “What about a car? Do you drive a car?” he inquired, his voice toning on the edge of fear. I told him, “Yeah, I have a vehicle. I bought it used for under $3,000.” He looked physically pained. “What about if you want to buy some kind of new appliance? Or furniture?” he persisted. I stared at him blankly. “My couch was $5.00 at Goodwill. Like…I just buy shit cheap or I don’t buy it at all. The only thing in my life that I make payments on is my house, my bills, and my insurance, and that’s split five ways because I have housemates.” The young man looked horrified? Appalled? And somehow also awed? This guy couldn’t have been much older than me. But it seemed that he’d never even considered the option before of saving up for something to purchase it outright instead of using a credit card. Am I the only person in my general age group (just turned 26) who’s never owned a credit card, and who has forgone basic comforts in order to save up for items so you don’t owe money to anyone, like, ever?
If you’re living in the US without a credit card at 26, you’re playing with danger.
No credit is viewed as the same as bad credit. Which means you could be denied if you ever do need to rent an apartment or a car. Hospitals and clinics are also less likely to allow payment plan programs for people without good credit.
The best thing you could do at this point is apply for a credit card you’re eligible for and pay a few things (I do gas and groceries myself) with it each month. As long as you keep it to zero balance each month there is no interest and there will be proof of you not having debt (instead of just the absence of debt).
what.
This is legit how it works. The system requires records on you, or else. So you need a credit card and worse, you need to have a record of using it, even if you pay it off every single month. Unfortunately, the formulas used to determine credit score are secret, so we also have people suggesting that your credit rating is helped if every so often you do pay a bit of interest. The whole thing is a complete mess. If you don’t have a credit rating/history, then any loans you manage to get will be at extremely high interest and will require much more effort than they really should.
yeaah let me just go get a card that i can’t pay off because capitalism is shit, even if i literally only buy a pack of gum that’d go well
If you pay it off in full every month there is no interest. Do what OP is doing but put some of that on your credit card and pay it off every month, and soon you will have a very good credit rating.
you skipped right the fuck over the “can’t pay it off” part huh like credit cards are just not a viable thing if you’re poor and have shit income
And I’m saying to literally not put anything on it if you can’t buy it in cash. And I’m aware that they fuck over poor people, but yeah, that’s the system that’s in place. This is advice for navigating it, which is how to obtain good credit which helps a lot.
Right like don’t make minimum payments, put your gas on your credit card then that same day pay the credit card company online then don’t worry about it for another month. It’s an absolutely shit system, but in the event of an emergency it’s good to have.
I have had to explain this to a lot of people in my life, but it’s true- no credit is the same as bad credit. What having (and using) the card actually shows is that you are capable of (and actually follow through on) making regular payments: ie, it is proof of having a steady income (even if you do not actually have a steady income). It is showing you reliably can pay for things you purchase, which is what your credit score is all about.
Think of it this way. You have a credit card, which is your credit tracking device. You use the card to tell someone “I will pay for this thing with borrowed money.” They agree to allow you to pay with borrowed money. You then turn around to your credit card company and say “Thank you for allowing me to borrow your money, I will now pay you back with my own money.” (which, if you repay them promptly enough, you can repay them the exact same amount you borrowed, rather than paying them more than you borrowed [which is what interest is])
The credit card company then recognizes that you successfully borrowed their money AND returned it safely, and they pass that information along to credit tracking companies. Each time you do this, you gain credibility. If you do this enough times, you are considered a credible borrower of money, so that if you ever are in a situation where you need to borrow a large sum of money (for example, a mortgage or a car or a hospital bill or whatever), companies with money will look at how well you have returned money in the past, and say Ah yes, this person repays their debts well, so we can lend them our money this time.
So like, do what the above folks are recommending. Get a credit card and use to to reasonably purchase things you already have to buy- put a batch of groceries on the card. Go home (or wherever you can use the interne), pay it off as if you had paid cash in the store for it. There is no extra fee or interest for doing this, and you are leveling up your credibility in case of emergency later on in life.
Ok, here’s a guide for the easiest way to do this.
1. get your first baby credit card with the bank that you already bank with. If it has cashback rewards, even better (that’ll be free money later).
2. set that shit up so it pays the full amount, automatically, every month. you don’t have to remember to go home and pay it off, or worry about it at all. You won’t pay interest.
Your first card, especially if you have no credit, is going to have a small limit. Like $500. This is important: credit companies want you to use a certain percentage of the card every month. This is 1-9%. I usually just go straight 5%. If you use too much, you look like a wild card (even if you pay it off every month) and if you use nothing than you’re not proving to them you can be trusted.
So your first card has a $500 limit. 5% of 500 is $25.
Your goal is to use $25/month.
This is about a tank of gas for me. So once a month, I would fill up with this card, and then put it in the back of my wallet until next month. The payment was made automatically by my bank from one account (debit) to the other (credit). Rinse and repeat. I did this for a year.
Then after a year, my credit had skyrocketed (because I had nothing before, and added this good habit for a year). So I called up my bank and asked for them to increase my limit based on my new credit. I had shown them I was good at borrowing a good amount of money and paying it back on time every time.
The bank increased my limit to $5,500. Like holy shit, at the time I was definitely not expecting that.
So new math. 5% of 5500 is $225. So now instead of gas, I put my cell phone bill ($50), my car insurance ($130), and my dog food automatic order ($40) on it.
The best part is everything is automatic. I keep this card in the back of my wallet permanently; all these bills and the automatic payments are, well, automatic. My credit goes up, I rack up cash back rewards, there’s nothing to it.
And, if I ever get in an emergency, like a vet bill for one of my dogs, I can use that card to pay the $3,000 emergency bill without worrying about whether the place will take my dog if I have no money. I can then go home, change the settings from “pay in full every month” to “pay $X every month” (more than the minimum!) until it’s paid off, and then go back to just my bills. My credit might take a little dip during that time, but will bounce back pretty quickly.
There’s several other factors to credit (hit me up if you want more info) but this was literally the only measure I took for my first year, and my credit went from 525 to 700 in a year. Another year later, I’m now at 753, have a mortgage with a great rate, and can get a monster ass loan if I really need it in case an emergency or hard times fall.
It’s a shitty system of hoops to jump through, but knowing you can use these measures if it comes to it is a good feeling.
Okay but literally read this entire post please!
Take it from someone who was taught that credit cards are evil, you NEED to build up some credit.
I’m 32 and only JUST NOW able to get a card because my fiance helped me do so. I could not get approved before because I didn’t have any credit.
And do yourself a favour - go read Bitches get Riches for insights into how finance all works and what you can do to help yourself.
http://www.bitchesgetriches.com/
and they are on tumblr
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Being poor and having excellent credit actually helped my parents not lose their house during the recession in the 2000's. They too had credit cards that they used minimally and paid off in 1-2 months.
The end result was that the bank they used was willing to give them extension on their loan payments because of how good their credit score was.
This did not happen with my neighbor who ended up foreclosed within a year because he had poor credit.
An important note to add: deal with credit unions rather than banks.
Credit unions have better interest rates and programs to help you build credit.
After said recession, my parents refinanced their mortgage with a credit union and opened a credit card with them. They're just easier to deal with and won't push any extras on you.
Fun Fact! Two Weeks Notice is not a REQUIREMENT in any sense of the word. It’s a nicety. A polite gesture, and only polite for the MANAGEMENT because THEY want time to find someone to replace you. They cannot withhold your last paycheck if you refuse to give two weeks notice, and they cannot force you to work the two weeks. Additionally, they cannot report that to any future employers who call them regarding your work history. In fact, they’re not allowed to comment on your performance AT ALL! Legally they are only allowed to confirm that you were an employee during the dates you list - anything else and they open themselves up to civil lawsuits in which they can be sued for damages for any number of reasons. So fuck Two Weeks Notice. if you work for a fucked company, they deserve to get fucked in return.
If you ever feel bad about not giving two weeks' notice, or like you're being unprofessional/unfair, think about this: If your boss fired you, would they give YOU two weeks' notice? Or would they have you escorted out of the building then and there? Anything they don't owe you, you don't owe them. Fuck 'em.
Oh these are therapeutic
I'd just like to add a classic:
You don't owe your boss your time or an explanation.
I quit my job on Friday because I started a new job on Monday. They were a crappy company and I gave them exactly what they deserved from me.
Two weeks notice is a courtesy at best, and even then, only reserved for places that I want on my resume, not dead ends.
honest to god can't stop thinking about this song about jeff bezos by philip labes (link takes you to his spotify). it's such a good example of politically driven folk music.
I’m sorry, but … this just isn’t true.
It’s absolutely true of, like, McDonald’s or Walmart or whatever. Yeah, fuck those places.
But there are tons of companies out there that are not massive international capitalist conglomerates.
Small mom and pop companies exist. Worker-owned co-op companies exist.
I’m only saying this because I’ve seen people carry this attitude into the workplace at places like this. A cool, small, passionate little company where everyone is friends (yes, including the boss) and everyone works hard and everyone shares in the company’s success.
And someone shows up and they’re just … entirely resentful. And lazy. And they just kind of make life miserable for everyone else. To the point they’re literally pulling the group down.
I wouldn’t cast an ounce of judgment on someone like that in a company like Walmart. But it’s a lot different in a little fifteen-person company where everyone’s success or failure is intimately tied together.
Like yeah, I get it, they still deserve to exist and we shouldn’t HAVE to labor to survive. It’s not fair that they need a job in a capitalist hellscape to simply keep living. But that’s not the fault of their fourteen co-workers. That’s the fault of the mega conglomerates we happy few have banded together to get away from.
I guess I’m trying to say two things:
1. No, you shouldn’t feel compelled to work weekends for soulless mega corps that are exploiting you and your fellow laborers. But there’s nothing wrong with finding a line of work that you’re passionate about and putting in some extra time there. That doesn’t mean you’re being exploited.
2. Companies do exist that help the people who work there and that care about the people who work there. Companies exist that aren’t composed of invisible corporate leeches sucking the souls out of their labor force. If you think all companies are evil you can miss some great groups to be part of.
Just don’t miss out on opportunities because you assume everyone is an asshole who’s trying to exploit you.
But there are tons of companies out there that are not massive international capitalist conglomerates.
I can't begin to explain how wrong all of this is. It comes from a good place I'm sure but it's so misinformed.
Business 101: The purpose of a business by its very definition is to make money.
It is not a social club, it is not there to be compassionate of fill some social niche. It is there to make a profit.
I'm just going to come out and say it: mom and pop companies do not deserve their idolized status in the collective psyche.
In my studies we determined that they are actually more likely to commit employee harassment, have workplace violations, and commit wage theft than the 'evil' mega corporations.
"Even the boss works hard" overlooks the fact that the boss is the one taking the larger share. It's like saying you help the housekeeper clean your house so she should keep going because you're still going after 6pm and it's not like you're not paying them!
I can't the propaganda worked so well that people are villainizing employees who just want to work and go home instead of socializing and being one big happy 'family' that makes money for the boss.
If said person isn't doing their work, then let them go. But I have a feeling that isn't what's happening.
If I were to crack open one of my Management books I would be able to identify the 'leech' as an employee motivated by money and as their manager it would be my job to ensure that they are well motivated. If I don't want to pay them more, then my job becomes ensuring none of my other workers adopt that same mentality. Why is that? Because it behooves the company for people to see their jobs as more than just a way to get money.
Capitalism is all about manipulation and half of the time, it's about making workers keep each other in line. The premise above is playing the part beautifully.
Just don’t miss out on opportunities because you assume everyone is an asshole who’s trying to exploit you.
You're right. There's plenty of nice people who will ask about your day and how your family is doing while trying to exploit you.
"Nice" companies are just good at convincing workers that they're a team and "we're all in it together!" to form a sense of comradeship. Because if you make your employees emotionally invested in their work, they'll work on weekends and resent the one person who has boundaries and says no.
Sometimes a job is just a job. Sometimes a 'career' is not the same as your social life. People who understand this often become ostracized by coworkers whose entire identity is tied up in their work. They're the same people who become shocked and start crying when they're laid off. Meanwhile, the jerk who saw it coming dusts themselves off and walks away.
Capitalism is about ruthless competition.
It doesn't mean you have to be a jerk. It doesn't mean you have to be rude about it.
But you sure as hell don't owe anyone your hard-earned weekend.
That time is yours and no one is entitled to it. If a promotion means you have to violate those boundaries, then what your really need to think about is if this is really a company you want to keep working for? They are not going to get better. By giving you more money, they will feel entitled to more of your time.
Employees need boundaries even if it hurts their coworker's feelings.
I’m going to scream.
Configurable *UP TO* 16gb RAM but that costs more than SEVENTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS.
The M1 chip isn’t fucking magic and a pastel tint to your -
Oh my god I just noticed that they ACTUALLY describe the keyboard as magic.
Anyway HOPE YOU ENJOY PAYING EXTRA FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING USB 3.0 PORTS.
IN YOUR DEVICE WITH NO OPTICAL DRIVE SO ANY OPTICAL DRIVE WOULD HAVE TO BE CONNECTED VIA USB. BUT NOBODY USES CDs THESE DAYS RIGHT IT’S ALL IN THE ICLOUD THAT’S NOT A PROBLEM RIGHT BUY APPLE FOREVER RIGHT.
HOPE YOU DON’T NEED AN ERGO KEYBOARD INSTEAD OF A MAGIC KEYBOARD FUCK YOU IT’S NOT AESTHETIC ENOUGH SO IF YOU WANT TO CONNECT IT YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.
Also that is a non computer person reviewing a computer and it couldn’t suck off apple any harder if it tried but oh my fuck you can find a two-year-old used dell or lenovo or HP with an i7 processor on ebay for like five hundred dollars and stuff it full of RAM and throw in two 2tb SSDs and get a fucking 32″ monitor and I’m pretty sure ALL of that would cost less than the stripped-down model of this fucking imac and yes it would take up more space on your desk and wouldn’t be fucking mint green or whatever but it would be an actually functional and powerful desktop instead of a nice display with a fucking tablet buried inside of it oh my GOD you can only upgrade these things to 16GB RAM and you can’t add an aftermarket graphics card and I don’t understand why people continue to give apple so much fucking money
Apple is a fashion company.
It’s meant to be pretty.
And as women have always known, fashion is meant to be admired. It’s not meant to be functional...
...or comfortable. Much like how I own shoes that leave me with blisters but they’re so damn cute, this guy make excuses.
And we shell out the cash because it’s name-brand.
After all, it’s an APPLE. It’s worth the price! (Insert vague comparison to an purposely inferior machine to make a point.)
Unfortunately too many essential workers died during the pandemic. The result is that the labor you didn't protect had now become more expensive.
NO ONE WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE!!!
Pay them ppl man.
My degree is Business Administration: Management concentration.
I just want to let you know that there were entire chapters in my Management Textbooks that specifically detail how to brainwash your employees into accepting low pay and poor working conditions by:
Emotionally manipulating them into feeling that the business problems are their problems.
Pitting them against anyone who goes against the company "culture"
Framing every unwelcome demand as "entitled" and the worker as "lazy" for asking
Making them fear replacement
Promoting the fallacy that it's the employee's fault or they're inconsiderate for not thinking of the "team"
Phrasing the position as a choice ("if you don't like it you can leave", "you don't have to work here")
Phrasing the position as a privilege ("do you know how many people want your job?")
Belittling what the job is worth. ("It's not meant to support a family", "Min. Wage wasn't meant to be a living wage.)
The fallacy of "just get a better job" overlooking the fact that there has been a steep decrease of "good" jobs that have been automated or outsourced and it has corresponded with the rise of low-paid service and retail positions.
Above all else... KEEP CONTROL OF THE SITUATION
It's literally written down and every person with a business degree in corporate has the playbook. What's amazing to see is that this pandemic broke the programming. None of those things will work when you're worried about dying. (Fast food workers have a COVID mortality rate 40% higher than the regular population.)
The system is in the middle of a reform. Much like the peasants after the Black Plague, the real power has been revealed and people are not going to go back into their box quietly.
The customer is always right saying needs to die.
Omg I wish we could have put this up at my workplace XD. Not that it would matter, ppl ignore all the other signs saying masks are required and there were actual laws put in the books about it (not that anyone cared about enforcing those laws because acab)
To all the nay sayers in the notes. You're wrong.
It’s more expensive for a business to lose their employees due to infection or fear of unsafe working conditions than missing out on the $20 you were going to drop during happy hour.
Also the law of supply and demand comes into play. There is limited occupancy in each restaurant meaning that there is way more demand than there is supply. And when demand exceeds supply, then businesses get to make the rules.
people trying to defend Mac products in the year of our lord 2020, like honey, please, leave him, I know he looks cool and fast and you’ve been dating since high school, but he’s isolating you, this isn’t good, the new iMac is just
the literal keyboard and mouse are sold separately
It’s almost impossible to repair
You’ll find another fast processor out there, I promise. There’s just no fixing him (literally)
i know a mac fanboy
he gets mad when you point it out
trying to maintain the ethernet is outdated tech
I literally did my marketing final on how Apple is a Fashion Company and not a Technology Company.
It doesn't matter what's inside because you're not paying for the technology, you're paying for the "Prestige" of the Apple sticker on your overpriced POS.
Their entire supply chain and distribution is heavily dependent on fabricated scarcity and their business practices are modeled after Rolex and Armani.
You don't pay the sticker price because you're getting the best on technology or even functionality. You're paying for a status symbol.
But the moment you point it out, the fan boys will be enraged.