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ok hi url change after like three years (i was sageblus)

#pinning this for a bit <3 #also hi if you’re here from my sideblog trying to figure out who tf is in ur notifs. it’s me r mercblues 🫡#talks

diotimas

zero stars for nolan because odysseus, on his journey home to ithaca, was NOT visited by a ghost that tells him that once he reaches his home, once he slays all his enemies and sets his house in order he must do one last thing before he can rest. the ghost does NOT tell him to pick up an oar, walk inland, keep walking, until somebody mistakes that oar for a shovel. for that would be the place that no man has ever been troubled by the sea. and that's where he'd find peace.

#black sails i miss you so fucking bad

yuridiot

we can't talk here. message me on the bruce springsteen app

leghorned

party 4 u / the social network

#wowwwwww #the social network

poetrylesbian

half considering cold emailing my professor from undergrad to get her take on nolan’s odyssey

#one of my favorite professors ever #and the way she taught race in the odyssey was particularly fascinating and i would love to hear her thoughts #hm #talks

looking at my tirade from yesterday like yeah maybe i could have phrased some of that better but i stand by what i said

#so many posts so many words sorry 🤐 i left that theater PISSED OFF #talks

punkedupfae

Alright ive seen enough

Someone put a blanket over my cage.

“nolan’s odyssey is a take on the effects of war on a person’s psyche” im glad we got another movie about how we need to feel bad for the (white) soldier that killed people because look how much killing those people affected him. i think that we were really lacking in movies that explored that perspective

#YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS PEOPLE #talks #odyssey crit #< tagging so ppl can filter. every time i think im done its literally AND ANOTHER THING

i really did try to go into it with an open mind. like admittedly ive seen a lot over the past year that made me apprehensive at best but i tried really really hard to set aside preconceived notions and not just look for negatives. and i am glad i watched it because the criticisms i had walking in are not necessarily the ones i left with, but i’m able to articulate those criticisms far more clearly than i would be able to if i were trying to piece it together from what other people had to say. like i gave it a shot, i watched it myself, and now i can articulate my complaints with confidence and engage in informed dialogue and discussion about why i thought it was ass. <3

#^ literally talking to no one but myself but that’s okay. i <3 shouting into the void on my blog. what else is it for #i should use this blog more often it’s so peaceful here lowkey #i say one wrong thing on the sideblog i get half a dozen anons in my inbox telling me to kill myself for criticizing a racecar driver 😭#sorry for subjecting the few of you that are here to my odyssey crashout. but i gotta get it out #talks #odyssey crit

AND DONT GET ME FUCKING STARTED ON THE CYCLOPS

#actually in a lot of ways that whole thing encapsulates what i hated about the movie #turning the ‘other’ into an unintelligent depersonalized violent monster who attacks odysseus and his men unprovoked #leaving him and his men perfectly justified in their wounding + disfigurement of said ‘other’#further cementing them as victims who even if they HAVE done wrong in the past are now only acting in self defense #like why are you moralizing to me right now. i don’t need odysseus feeling guilty about the sack of troy to tell me war is bad #i can get there on my own and having it spoonfed to me with YOUR idea of no nuance good guys and bad guys #is insulting at best and propaganda at worst #like odyseuss is interesting because he sucks. he is prideful and arrogant and tricky and sneaky and distrustful and HE WANTS TO GO HOME #not because he’s oh so noble and a moral blueprint.#like if we are getting our morals from Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey then let’s just pack it up and go home i mean wtf are we doing #talks #odyssey crit

like on top of being a dogshit adaptation it’s also just. a bad movie

#do you have any idea how bad a movie has to be for me to NOT have fun at the movie theater. i would watch paint dry on a big screen #poor pacing. party city costumes. uninteresting dialogue. same desaturated coloring as every other movie rn #literally just not even enjoyable to watch #talks #odyssey crit

keepthedelta

actually can't get over how terribly christopher nolan treated the black women in the odyssey

keepthedelta

like. i don't think any of the women in the odyssey are treated well by nolan (penelope and circe in particular have their characters ruined to make odysseus seem smarter and more honourable) but there's something so nasty about casting a black woman as athena, goddess of wisdom, war, and handicraft, the character who arguably drives most of the post ogygia plot in the poem, and choosing to ignore all of that in favour of a mute hallucination of a girl who was raped and murdered whose only function in the film is to add to the guilt the white male lead feels over the atrocities he committed. or casting a dark skinned black woman as the most beautiful woman in the world, and then having her husband carve up her face to disfigure her as punishment for being so beautiful that she was kidnapped

keepthedelta

those things don't happen in the poem either. it's all a choice by christopher nolan to do that

#christopher nolan you are not seeing heaven #odyssey crit

like ok we can let circe talk about how she turned odysseus’ men into pigs because she couldn’t trust them! they would have harmed her! but only if we go out of our way to have those men reassure her that they have no intent to hurt her. because of course we can’t have our “good guys” be the type of men who would brutalize and rape women simply because they could. so these men never would have hurt circe! but see we’re ACKNOWLEDGING that she feels that they might have. don’t you see how we made her look irrational and vindictive and cruel but in an empowering way??

no see melantho WANTED to help antinous. she chose to betray penelope! and it was a betrayal of penelope and not a betrayal of odysseus so see look how empowering it is when penelope throws melantho out into the slaughter of the suitors! melantho the slave girl had agency and she chose to be with antinous so it’s okay that we allowed her to be slaughtered brutally! feminism!

we could NEVER include odysseus’ hanging of the enslaved women after the slaughter of the suitors. we can’t have our hero odysseus do such a thing! we’ll let penelope do it though :) just a little bit with melantho but she deserved it :3 feminism <3

see look we cast a black woman as helen of troy! famously one of the most beautiful women in all of greek mythology surely you can’t have a problem with that! ignore the fact that we added a part where her husband deliberately mutilated her as punishment for being so beautiful. and look! we let her play her “twin” sister clytemnestra too — yes, the clytemnestra that brutally murdered her husband but we explained why it was justified! black women should be allowed to play violent characters! would you rather us cast NO black women? don’t you know these are the only two options?

it’s okay though because we also cast zendaya as athena and utterly defanged her. she’s in virginal white robes the whole time and she plays the divine manifestation of odysseus’ guilt over the sack of troy. she’s no warrior goddess, she would never condone war or violence! good women don’t do such things!

we gave all these women agency don’t you see! we let them talk about and address these problems! and don’t worry, all the main male “hero” characters really are good guys who would never really do anything to hurt them. so really the women didn’t really need to go into all of that but we want YOU to know that They’re Strong Women who would never let themselves be victimized by the patriarchal ideals that they’re subjected to. in fact, we did our best to remove the evidence of these ideals at all! that’s why we made sure the good guys would never treat women badly. look we absolved them AND we let the women call them out. sure now it looks like most of the women are overreacting and vindictive because we didn’t want to make you think about our Heroes doing those things ever in the first place. but that’s fine right because really we did BOTH things you wanted us to do so why are you complaining?

#didn’t proofread this tbh it’s mostly me venting but oh my fucking godddddd we are never getting out of here!!!!!#talks #odyssey crit

caryatidcolumn

in case anyone was wondering. the odyssey was bad

caryatidcolumn

not like “oh this was a poor adaptation they’ve bastardized the story homer would be horrified” good news! homer didn’t exist. the whole point of adaptation is to take a story and spin it and do something different with it. i wasn’t expecting a verse by verse 1:1 reenactment. it’s a wholly different medium so that would make for a pretty shit movie. i would expect and honestly even hope for there to be creative choices made that make it different than the source material.

however IN MY OPINION those creative choices sucked lmfao. the story they chose to tell was trite and uninteresting and also pushed some pretty sinister narratives that seem likely to go largely unnoticed and/or unexamined. judging by the applause from everyone in the theater i was in tonight. which is pretty disheartening and also alarming icl

caryatidcolumn

also i stand by my original take that matt damon was abysmal casting

#personally i would have preferred it if the whole cast had been unknown/no name actors but like it was what it was #and i don’t think that they ALL did a shit job like i can respect the performance from a lot of them #< this is coming from a known r patz lover sorry. i actually think he was a great antinous but i like him in most things. character flaw ik #but matt damon can get fucked that was so unbearable #odyssey crit

caryatidcolumn

in case anyone was wondering. the odyssey was bad

caryatidcolumn

not like “oh this was a poor adaptation they’ve bastardized the story homer would be horrified” good news! homer didn’t exist. the whole point of adaptation is to take a story and spin it and do something different with it. i wasn’t expecting a verse by verse 1:1 reenactment. it’s a wholly different medium so that would make for a pretty shit movie. i would expect and honestly even hope for there to be creative choices made that make it different than the source material.

however IN MY OPINION those creative choices sucked lmfao. the story they chose to tell was trite and uninteresting and also pushed some pretty sinister narratives that seem likely to go largely unnoticed and/or unexamined. judging by the applause from everyone in the theater i was in tonight. which is pretty disheartening and also alarming icl

#need to collect my thoughts further but god i hated it.#talks #odyssey crit

in case anyone was wondering. the odyssey was bad

#so obnoxiously misogynistic it was so fucking gross.#i have other complaints but the treatment of all of the women characters was so sinister #odyssey crit #talks #( < was @sageblus)

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