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from a dream i had last night
just realizing this could be either post or pre reveal. or one sided reveal . (post relationship? LMAO)
based off of this
[Image description: Miraculous Ladybug comic, hand-drawn in black on a tan background.
Panel 1: Marinette (left) sitting with a blanket over her shoulders and her knees up next to Chat Noir (right), as he gestures with a hand and a raised eyebrow.
Chat Noir: “Some people say I’m so oblivious I wouldn’t know a girl liked me if it hit me over the head. What does that even MEAN?”
Panel 2: Still smiling slightly, without any change of expression, Marinette smacks him on the back of the head, knocking it forward.
SFX: BAM
Panel 3: Chat rubs the back of his head, whipping his gaze up to stare at her. Marinette looks back, eyes wide with anticipation.
Chat Noir: “You…” Marinette (thinking): ‘No way. Did he actually get it?’
Panel 4: Chat still rubbing the back of his head, which pain lines are emanating from, with an anger mark on his temple, an angry expression and tears running down from his eyes. Marinette looks extremely unimpressed, with a hint of a blush, and is trembling.
Chat Noir: “WHAT DID YOU DO THAT FOR?? IT HURTS!” Marinette (thinking): ‘Adrien you colossal blockhead.’ Marinette, blandly: “Mosquito.”
Image: Reddit post from user Jesus_marley with 4.4k likes:
Guy here. I was walking a friend home one evening and I mentioned to her that I am quite oblivious about when a girl likes me. I said “a girl could smack me on the head and I wouldn’t realise she was into me”.
She then smacked me on the back of my head and I responded with “Ow! What the hell was that for?!?”.
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To be fair, he did tell her…
breaking my silence for one of the most episodes ever
[Image description: Lineart comic with colour-coded speech bubbles for each character.
Panel 1: Chat looking miserable and downcast.
Chat: “... I’m scared that she hates me now.”
Panel 2: Marinette offering friendly reassurance.
Marinette: “Of course she doesn’t hate you, Chat Noir.”
Panel 3: Both under Chat’s staffbrella, Chat looking deadpan, Marinette with a hand on one hip in a lecturing pose.
Chat: “Today she threw me in the trash.” Marinette: “Okay that was unrelated and also hilarious.”
Panel 4: A startled Marinette being yanked backwards by the jacket into a limo.
Kagami: “MARINETTE.”
Panel 5: Kagami holding up a shoujo manga and pointing to it as she lectures.
Kagami: “I’ve been doing more research and I really think the enemies-to-lovers trope could work for you and Adrien.”
Panel 6: Marinette looking intimidated and glancing sideways in search of escape.
Kagami: “You are currently on the friends-to-lovers track but I believe this could speed up the slowburn development.” Marinette: “Uhh-” Kagami: “Either that or we could create a bed shortage, but given the security levels of the Agreste mansion, it would prove difficult to steal Adrien’s bed-”
Panel 7: Gabriel trying to give awkward advice without making eye contact.
Gabriel: “You know, son, if you’re ever feeling... down... you can always come to your dad.”
Panel 8: Adrien looking Absolutely Done, with teartracks still running down his cheeks.
Adrien: “Yeah, I’ll keep that in mind for next time I have a dad.”
Panel 9: Adrien turning to talk to his friends in his seat at school, Alya pressing her hands together and holding eye contact, Nino staring in mute horror.
Adrien: “-so if we can figure out who ‘Buttercup’ is, we can help Marinette confess!” Alya: “Adrien, I’m a big fan of where I think this is going, but first I have to know your personal level of commitment to this project.” ]
What kind of Stand would the Shadow develop?
Consider: The Shadow himself as a Stand. The Shadow Knows (named after the couple dozen songs that have been named after that, take your pick) is a Stand bound to a Girasol Ring that can think and act independently from the user as well as along with them, and regenerate from anything, but is still bound by whoever has the Ring, and it will be altered in personality depending on who's wearing the Ring.
The Ring was first uncovered by aviator Kent Allard during WW1 and was him during his trip to the Yucatan, and then it wound up at the hands of a mysterious man named Burbank, a former acquaintance of Allard, who heeded the instructions of the mysterious entity inside the Ring to create a crime-fighting network in the 1930s. It was passed along to several agents, first of which was a man the Stand rescued from suicide named Harry Vincent. Where did the Ring wind up after The Shadow's dissappearence in 1949? That's where fanfic comes in, I'm throwing out this premise in case anyone wants to take it.
The Stand will not obey it's user 100% and takes quite a lot of effort to control, and while it's overriding will is to fight evil no matter the cost, it can and will change also if it falls into the hands of villains, for it is a shadow, and has no form or substance aside from what others imprint on it. Because of how volatile it is, this can mean that the villain obtaining the Ring can be both a serious raising-the-stakes moment for the heroes, as well as the prelude to something absolutely terrible befalling the villain, as their Stand abilities get turned against them by a being with the most intimate knowledge of how they work.
It cannot be destroyed, because it's original user, Kent Allard, is dead, but it also cannot do anything on it's own without someone wearing the Ring. After all, he says as much himself in The Five Chameleons
He who wears this stone - like which there is no other - is The Shadow. No matter what his guise may be, he is The Shadow. Tell none what I have told you.
JoJo Stands generally follow this pattern where protagonist Stands are usually simple and versatile above anything else, and villain Stands are whatever specific horror/action puzzle box Araki felt like creating that week to trap his protagonists in. On one hand, as a Stand wielded by the protagonist, you could have The Shadow as a Stand have a relatively simple but horrifying versatile ability, like the ones he already has, like perfect mimicry, illusion creating, maybe the power to move matter through shadow, something like Whitesnake meets Black Sabbath maybe (I mean hey, wouldn't be the first time he would physically interact with shadows)
And on the other hand, The Shadow is a villain who fights villains, and JoJo villains have much, much weirder abilities. Additionally, Stands are also said to be influenced by the user's willpower, and I do like bringing up that episode of the radio show where The Shadow managed to carry himself and Margo Lane intact through literal time loops purely through the willpower that also powers his abilities. So you could also go for some Bites The Dust / D4C space-time warping weirdness. Maybe both, even, it's not like both at once doesn't happen in JoJo.
The Shadow has had so, so many weird abilities over the decades and so many that were just kinda introduced once and never explained or reincorporated again, that you absolutely could take one or several of them to extrapolate into an appropriately bizarre Jojo-esque superpower. You could even mine ideas for giving him space/time/reality-bending abilities just by reading the way he's described in the pulps and some of the weirder abilities he's had.
Swaying evasively, The Shadow made a strange target. His tall form, moving with a mystic rhythm, seemed to elude the fire of his foeman. A bullet clipped the top of the slouch hat. Another zimmed through the flowing border of the black cloak. - Green Eyes
The darkness of the anteroom was moving. Like a creature from some hidden vault of space, a form was emerging from blackness. While hushed fiends still gazed, the outline became clear. A being clad totally in black. A form enshrouded by the folds of an inky-hued cloak; features concealed beneath the brim of a broad slouch hat.
Circling toward the empty chair at the side of Rochelle's desk, The Shadow kept his guns trained on his clustered foemen. The mobsters who guarded the prisoners, feared to move. Each villain who viewed the muzzles of The Shadow's automatics, thought that both guns were directed fully upon him - The Embassy Murders.
Jotaro ‘Im bad at one liners and have to ask other people to do it’ Kujo
in his defense, when he does try to do it himself, he kinda uhhhhhh:
the most revealing detail about Jotaro’s character is that he thought the one-liner “Nice watch – too bad you won’t be able to tell the time on it after I break it. Break your face, that is!” was so good he used it TWICE
Bingo: THe OG Jojo, Jonathan Joestar
My thoughts and opinions on Jojo have shifted all over the place in the almost a decade since I got into the series, but I still stand by the opinion that Jonathan is my favorite JoJo. Probably not "the best", if you wanna get like, technical about this as far as writing quality and arc and all that crap but, pretty uncontested my favorite, and I don't think I'd even know how to argue this. Do I have to argue this? No? Okay, I will anyway.
Most of this has to do with the Jonathan x Dio dynamic (and where it stands on the ensuing larger Dio vs Joestars conflict) being my favorite in the series, and that being the biggest factor in making Phantom Blood my favorite part and the one I keep rewatching / rereading the most again and again (a lot of this helped by it being the shortest part). Jonathan is dramatically more interesting as Dio's enemy than he is as a character onto himself, and that kinda sounds like a knock against Jonathan but, it's actually kinda integral to how that dynamic and Phantom Blood works. Jonathan was Dio's enemy first and foremost, and a protagonist second, by Araki's own admission Dio had just as much claim if not more to being the protagonist of Phantom Blood. And that kinda makes Jonathan unique in a way none of the other Jojos really are.
Araki's said as much that Dio was designed first (even not counting the existence of Mashonen BT, who's Dio's prototype 100%) and was the character he was excited to write for, where as Jonathan was harder to get a grasp on and not the kind of protagonist he preferred to write. He said as much that Jonathan was made to "function as a symbol of purity and dignity rather than a unique, fresh character" because he had to contrast Dio, who was always going to survive. Jonathan was kinda made to die against Dio and pass the torch on to future protagonists, and be the big dramatic and morally pure hero every other Joestar was gonna fail to be, so they could be the kind of weird asshole with a heart of gold protagonists that Araki actually likes to write for.
I certainly don't dislike any of the JoJos, to be upfront (...okay Joseph in Part 2 gets real grating sometimes, I definitely prefer him when he’s older), I don’t really have less favorite Jojos and if I do they’re still a couple tiers to me above like, 99% of any given Marvel/DC characters. Ranking Jonathan next to them is a little unfair because he was never really made to work as a character the way they did but, that's also kind of why I love him more? Because he's so fundamentally different from the other JoJos in a way that forced his author to grow and mature in order to tackle properly and it shows as the part progresses. Because he was designed having an already clear ending in mind and Phantom Blood has a much more compact story, with a clear beginning, middle and end than the other parts, who were mostly running for as long as Araki wanted/could stretch the premise. Because there's no mismatch between Jonathan's personal narrative and the narrative that allows the part to run for as long as Araki wants it to. We grow up, watch him fight, and die with Jonathan till the bitter end.
Jonathan's narrative is Dio's narrative and they are Phantom Blood's narrative and they all run for exactly as long as they need to and not a second longer (the anime definitely could have been paced a little better though), and the side characters and cool powers don't get to steal the show unlike in every other part. Everything revolves around these two and their vicious conflict and everything they try to do to end it, so they can go on to live their lives, unaware that their lives are one and the same even before they become one and the same. They were kind of narratively doomed from the start, and by they I mean mostly Jonathan, because Dio was eventually gonna go on to doom a whole entire universe (not even figuratively) and it was only through Jonathan's sacrifice to save Erina that the world even had a slight fighting chance.
I like Jonathan because we grow alongside him to an extent we just don’t with the other JoJos, and that he actually grows at all to an extent most other JoJos (besides Jolyne and Johnny) mostly don’t in their own parts. The anime cut down hard on most of this but, as a kid, Jonathan was kind of a little shit! He was the spoiled son of a nobleman who got into fights and smoked pipes and threw rocks at crows, who even threw rocks at his dog when he first got him and regularly kicked him around until Danny saved him from drowning. It wasn’t that hard for Dio to surpass him at most things and it wasn’t until Dio assaulted Erina and Jonathan fucked him up that he started proving himself more than an average kid, to us as well as Dio. The anime cut down a lot of Jonathan’s emotionality and development to speedrun through his journey, and in that process made him more one-note than he really is. And that resulted in a lot of fans perceiving Jonathan as a passive and boring cinnamon roll. I kinda dislike the interpretation of him that defaults to “gentleman” as a standalone trait, and I especially detest any that present him as having some stick-up-his-ass about his descendants (if nothing else I’m really thankful the games proved this idea wrong and established thoroughly how much mutual respect there would be between him and them).
His path in Phantom Blood is extensively defined around Jonathan’s continued rise towards becoming someone able to stop Dio, someone who continually pursues Dio and not the other way around. He has to be someone able to match Dio, and so, he grows into someone Dio (and the audience) respects. He has to grow from an immature boy into a superpowered martial artist who storms castles to cleave vampires and zombies from the inside out. Even before he got superpowers, he was fighting street thugs by tanking sawblades in the arm and winning their respect so hard they swore lifelong loyalty on the spot. With powers, he physically outmatched a giant who destroys cliffs with a single sword swing, and he did this to that guy (hate, hate, hate that the anime had to censor this).
He wields a sword that he was given by a centuries-old zombie knight that was so impressed by his fighting prowess, cleverness, and resolve, that he used his dying moments to praise him and give him his sword, after Jonathan restored his faith in mankind so hard it killed him (in my view, people have never appreciated the epic ridiculousness of the Bruford fight enough). He killed a zombie with snakes in his head by mind-controlling and empowering said snakes into slowly and painfully devouring him. Jonathan was way, way, way more ruthless than most people give him credit for, you don’t Belmont your way through hordes of supernatural evil WITH YOUR BARE HANDS and very little training otherwise. The contrast between Jonathan, the titanic beast of a man who literally fistfights evil to death, and Jonathan, the adorably nice boyish good guy and gentleman (and who had to learn to be one), is crucial to what makes the character work outside of his dynamic with Dio and is so much better than the boring hero caricature fandom paints him as.
He forgives and loves Dio even to the bitter end because he’s a forgiving and loving person. He spent the majority of his life hating Dio, and more important, hating himself because he couldn’t bring himself to like Dio when everyone else did (a line that does so much to establish Jonathan’s character as an adult), and still he chooses to be forgiving. And that’s key here: That choice. He chooses to be optimistic in the face of the Ultimate Evil, even when Speedwagon’s given an entire monologue dedicated to how naive he is for doing so. But Jonathan knows first-hand better than literally anyone alive what a massive fucking monster Dio is time and time again, and he still spends his last seconds embracing his brother with tenderness, extending love towards Dio even as he has to drag him into an inferno by hand. I get why some feel this way but I will never accept the idea that Jonathan is boring, not even by JoJo protagonist standards.
Phantom Blood fascinates me so much because it's JJBA's creation myth, and it’s one that has nothing to do with the setting and plot points or even general business that define like, 80% of the series, but one that lays down the groundwork of the battle of good vs evil that the series is built on and all of it's ensuing variations. It's built on abstracts because it has to be, it has to define what the soul of the series is gonna look like even as a massive body has to grow around to obfuscate it. It's The Ultimate Hero vs The Ultimate Villain and the Ultimate Villain wins the battle through superior guile and improvisation and luck and so on, while the Ultimate Hero wins the future, not for himself, but those he loves, through self-sacrifice and love and determination. He lives a short life and dies a tragic death, his legacy is not perfect and neither was he, and most of his descendants have no idea who he is and what he lost to ensure they could live, but his story lives on in some form. The sun still rises every morning whether you’re there to greet it or not.
Completely unintentional on Araki's part, but I've always liked how Jonathan never gets mentioned again outside of hearsay from family members and his worst enemy’s words, so it ultimately falls on you, as a reader and fan, to give Jonathan his due. To remember him even as the story doesn't, even as he faded into the abstract good of the Joestars that comes from him. I've always liked the idea of a setting's heroic paragon not being remembered as such or even remembered at all by most of the people continuing the fight they started, and that it wasn't their power or efficiency or even their unshakeable morals that lingered or saved the world or defined them, but the sacrifice they used their dying breaths for.
Who they were, above all else, till the end.
Jojo bingo: Vinegar Doppio/Diavolo
Doppio/Diavolo is one of those characters that I find deeply fascinating, more so than well-realized, which I guess could be said for a lot of other favorites of mine. Everything great about him is almost all in the build-up that ends with an pretty unsatisfying pay-off by the time he gets lost in the Chariot Requiem shuffle (quite literally so), and then gets even more lost once GER happens and, y’know. Diavolo is more famous for his “death” than anything else which is, fitting, in a way, but doesn’t exactly do much to alleviate the idea that he’s pretty unsatisfying as a main villain. I do think there’s a lot to like about Diavolo in regards to his build-up and the ways he’s presented, I’m a lot more generous on the guy than most JoJo fans seem to be. He’s on the bottom of my favorite main JoJo villains but still a character I really, really like.
He’s definitely he one main JoJo villain who got an undeservedly horrid fate, maybe the worst fate possible and one that countless other JoJo villains deserved far, far more. There’s lots of room to argue over what works and what doesn’t about the Vento Aureo finale but, regardless, I do think it’s a solid concept on it’s own, I do love some GER jokes myself and I like that it gave him a niche as “the guy who’s dying forever”, I like how some fan works play with that idea.
I’d say upfront that my favorite thing about him is how the anime presents him. Now obviously this doesn’t sound like high praise, but so much of JoJo wins me over due to presentation and I definitely think the anime did the best it could and beyond with the character. I love the sounds used for his powers and transformations, I love the ways they adapted or visually changed the phone conversations between Doppio and Diavolo, I love King Crimson and Epitaph’s effects, and I especially love the fact that, unlike prior parts where the villains only really had one theme to go with, they gave him NINE THEME SONGS to go with on the soundtrack (that’s not counting his sung opening interlude), making use of separate motifs to represent Doppio, Diavolo, King Crimson, Epitaph, their key battles vs Bruno and Risotto and the finale, and etc. All of these songs build off each other in their shared motifs for the two and sporadic usages of phone noises, death shrieks, distortion effects, chorus, clock ticking sounds, pitch shifting, all of these mixing and matching and making part of the tracks to capture how discordant and powerful he is. The soundtrack for Part 5 makes Diavolo one of the most musically interesting characters in the entire series by sheer variety alone.
I love Diavolo’s build-up as The Boss and how we kind of grow accostumed to thinking of King Crimson as The Boss, with how frequently he speaks and acts through King Crimson first and foremost. King Salami is an all-timer Stand design, wonderfully expressive, wonderful power, wonderfully vicious and strong even without it’s game-breaking bullshit, it has a wonderfully deadly build-up in how it’s every appearence is heralded by a main character dying. and it works to put one among many layers of separation between us and The Boss along with Doppio, who adds another interesting twist in that he’s visually and functionally indistinguishable from the protagonists. It’s a wonderful way to let The Main Villain operate as Protagonist without spoiling anything about said Main Villain even when we quite literally get inside his head and see him juggling variants and frantically calculating ways to stop his feral manchild alter-ego from getting themselves killed or exposed. I like Diavolo because he’s pretty damn funny, he’s deeply ridiculous and self-destructive even as he makes a lot of genuinely clever plays and moves to stay ahead. I’ve seen him described as the kind of JoJo character that Nicholas Cage could play and I agree with that, he can be brutally comedic in ways intentional and unintentional.
I’m also obviously taken by characters with split/multiple personalities, and I do think the concept is used very interestingly here, in how Diavolo and Doppio function and relate to each other. Diavolo/Doppio is definitely the one main JoJo villain I most definitely have headcanons for because I find them fascinating to think about, to explore. I actually really like that they kinda subvert the usual good/bad thing in that they’re both different kinds of bad, and the seemingly “good’ personality Doppio isn’t actually good at all, merely terrible in different, more aggressive and less self-centered ways. Fandom Doppio is such a boring misread on what a horrid, feral, yet endearing character Doppio is and how great the dynamic between the two is. I love that their main point of contrast personality-wise is that Diavolo is deeply, murderously self-centered, where as Doppio is deeply, murderously selfless, completely willing to disregard his own safety and throw himself headfirst into certain death for the sake of his Boss, who despite caring for Doppio (as much as he can care for anything), doesn’t look back once at the prospect of leaving him behind to ensure his own survival. It’s like if DIO and Vanilla Ice shared the same body and mind, it’s a pretty interesting concept for a dual-identity villain to begin with.
My take on the “who’s the original personality” debate is, whatever idea I find the most interesting to go with at any given moment, but personally I think it’s less that one is the original and the other is the alter, and more so that they were always co-pilots of the same body (the anime kinda leans in this direction by showing their eyes shifting when they were a baby, something that wasn’t in the manga), and their separation was just further compounded with time (to the point Chariot Requiem classified them as separate spirits entirely). Neither of them is quite “complete” as a person in their own right, it just so happens that one personality sublimated the other to the extent they radically embody two different periods of the same person’s life (Doppio recognizes his hometown as his hometown, despite not being able to recognize himself and Diavolo as the same person).
I do love fanon takes on Diavolo x Doppio that play up the idea of Diavolo as a protective alter created to protect Doppio, and I even like Diavolo’s finale behavior a lot better with the idea that he always has been this fundamentally immature and childish being, a shy young man’s idea of what a big and untouchable grown man looks like, and without Doppio, with no smokescreens to hide behind, he’s reduced to his naked self, a raving beast perpetually clawing for power and untouchability (in a sense, a way for Giorno to truly overcome his fate by defeating and taking the reigns from, who else, a man exactly like his dad at the bottom line). The idea Diavolo remembers everything where as Doppio remembers nothing, not even his given orders, because Diavolo was created to be a scary and invincible man, where as Doppio was created to be the carefree young boy they once were. One a violent single-minded protective entity driven by a desire to separate themselves from their past at all costs, the other a fleeting memory of a person meant to take the front seat and enjoy life free from the burdens of a past.
Everytime we see Diavolo fronting, he’s cowering under blankets and hiding in the shadows, where as Doppio gets to go out and play soccer and pet frogs. Diavolo has no wants or desires other than just expanding his criminal organization and protect his identity (even his mad chase for the arrow is more so to keep it away from his enemies and stop them from challenging him, than wanting to do anything with the arrow’s power), and one could argue that his main goal with creating Passione to begin with is just an extension of his clinically paranoid concern over his identity. He follows Kira in the sense that he has no real ambitions, merely an obsessive desire to keep on living exactly the way he does right now, with no possible risk to it, hence why he has to kill Trish, because even though she’s just an average 15 year old who’s literally never even met him, the risk that she could sense and identify him, which she could because family in JoJo works like that, is enough.
Canonically, all of this comes back to his desire to protect himself at all costs, but I really like (and kind of prefer) fandom takes that instead play with the idea that Diavolo’s doing all of this to protect Doppio, as the only thing about themselves that they were able to salvage from a disastrous past they’ve gone through such absurd lengths to kill and bury. I like the fanon idea that all he ultimately cares about, all he really has that’s worth caring about, is Doppio (and canon Diavolo does care for Doppio, even if mostly out of self-preservation), and his most redeeming quality would also be the one that’s caused literally all of his sins, every murder and torture and drug empire and beyond done by him or in his name (I think one of my consistently favorite things about certain JoJo villains is the ways in which their best qualities, morally speaking, tend to be their scariest traits or lead to their most destructive actions).
I get that a lot of what I’m describing is more fan conjecture than canon, but I do like canon Diavolo. I just also really like some fan ideas of him that give him more attention than the Vento Aureo finale could. Not all of his concepts are used as interestingly as they could have been, but I liked them as they were, I like this guy quite a lot and I wouldn’t even mind that much if he somehow came back, if nothing else to be freed from his horrid fate, Jesus Christ Giorno, I know GER was acting independently and that you didn’t know what it was doing or gonna do, but what the fuck is wrong with you that your soul manifested this abomination to begin with, you could have just sniped his head with that scorpion beam and thrown him in the river, you didn’t have to go ahead and somehow outdo your father in sheer eternal pointless cruelty
I’ve really enjoyed your writings on JJBA. You got me to see characters like Dio and Jonathan in ways I never thought of. If you’re still up for Bingo, I’d love to hear your thoughts on Giorno
Thank you! I still want to keep doing these, now that my JoJo hyperfixation is back and won't leave me alone for the time being.
I've always really, really loved Giorno, even back when he was pretty universally-panned in fandom circles as the default worst JoJo. The bad scanlations of Vento Aureo and how they butchered the Western popularity of that part are a story everyone's familiar with by now but, honestly? I don't think the fixed scans are what did it for Giorno. I don't even think it was the anime on it's own. I'd argue the main thing that changed Giorno's reception would be the change of voice actor for the anime.
Because for the longest time the main problem fandom had with Giorno was the idea that he was boring, that he was too dispassionate and unemotional and devoid of personality, and for a long time the only frame of reference they had for the character was the manga scanlation, that really did butcher everyone’s dialogue and personality, and All-Star Battle/Eyes of Heaven, with Daisuke Namikawa doing a decent job as the character but not doing much to dissuade people’s perception of Giorno as monotone. In the aftermath of the anime setting the record straight with Kensho Ono’s performance, and especially those goddamn beautiful WRRYYYEAHs he’s doing, that no longer seems to be as big of a complaint as it used to be. I’m not saying the anime “fixed” Giorno, not in the slightest, the anime basically just adapted what was always there for a much bigger audience, and so people got to see more of Giorno’s sides. Most crucially how emotive and expressive he is, and how funny the 15-year old revolutionary gangster can be.
I’m certainly not saying every criticism levied at Vento Aureo was unfounded, I still need to sit down and reread/rewatch it entirely, but consistently I always thought Giorno ruled. He’s got one of my absolute favorite powersets in the series and one that Araki really, really squeezes versatility out of (to the point I’d still argue Requiem really wasn’t that necessary to defeat Diavolo), I like that he’s built to thrive just as much when he takes a backseat to the action and acts as the planner / support for other characters to rally around and find their own strength, I love all of his dynamics within Bruno’s Gang. I love that he’s scary, actually fucking scary, even besides the whole cosmic horror GER brings to the table, even besides the fact that his normal powerset involves pulling snakes and scorpions and insects out of thin air to hurt and kill people.
He’s the most cutthroat JoJo by leaps and bounds, one who actively grew up wanting to be not just a criminal kingpin, but THE criminal kingpin of his country, one who would employ said resources for the betterment of society. One of the very first battles he’s in, he defeats a villain by going behind his associate’s back and tricking said villain into eating a gun and blasting his brains out. He lies, he bribes, he maims. He has a beetle eat the brain of a serial killer right after turning back on his promise of leaving said killer alive, he even suggests killing civilians if they get in the way of the mission. His selflessness is just as terrifying too, he unhesitatingly chops off his limbs and dives neckfirst into razor blades to assist his partners and eventual friends. He risks death over the prospect of leaving anyone behind, he’s driven to extremes caused by his rage and disgust over innocents and children being victimized by the drug trade, his plans are mind-boggling and brutal and powerful, matched only by his capacity for rallying morale and inspiring others. He’s DIO’s son with Joestar spirit, someone who takes after both, a Noble Champion of the Sun as much as he’s Evil Charisma. The next step in DIO’s evolution.
Giorno kinda feels to me like Araki going back to not just DIO the bedazzling immortal megavillain who rules the world, not even just Dio Brando the enfant terrible turned scourge of humanity, but Mashonen B.T, Araki’s early manga love letter to Sherlock Holmes about a charismatic genius bad boy who uses trickery and underhanded tactics to outfox and defeat opponents, mostly known nowadays for being Dio’s direct prototype in almost every way right down to the design, poses, clothing, etc, a short-lived character who was too controversial a protagonist for Shonen Jump at the time. Araki’s gone back to Dio a lot over every part exploring the facets of his existence and Giorno is one of them, one that allowed him to go all the way back to the initial bad boy protagonist he had and redo him accordingly. A Dio who wasn’t born Evil Incarnate, who didn’t grow up to become this century-wide bloodline cancer and embodiment of fate and gravity center of all that is evil and bizarre, who got to once again apply his talents and smarts against those worse than himself.
And this is kind of related to why I think Giorno loses a lot of what makes him important and thematically interesting when he’s made out to be the son of Jonathan as well, even though it’s an idea I do like. Because Giorno’s whole deal is that he’s the son of the Ultimate Evil who grows up into something much better. Part 5′s big theme is people dealt with bad circumstances breaking free, breaking free from the chains of fate and the burdens imposed on them, with Giorno as the one who did it first and then went on to help Buccellati and others do the same.
Jotaro Kujo, the protagonist of the third series Stardust Crusaders, leavesfor his journey already accepting the bond that links him to his grandfather and his grandfather’s great-grandfather (Jonathan’s father) – there are six generations between them. In this case we can affirm that Dio Brando, the enemy, represents Destiny and Fate.
While i was writing the fifth series, Vento Aureo, i asked myself how the simple fact to be born could have been something to be sad of for someone. Men can’t decide to be born or not. Just like some might be born in happy families, others grow up in awful environments.
So, what should these people do, if Destiny and Fate are something that someone else, like a God or some Great Law who rules the universe and the stars, had already decided for them?
This is the main theme that revolves around Vento Aureo and the same theme that the protagonists and their enemies must deal with.
Giorno, Buccellati, Fugo, Narancia, Abbacchio and Mista. Each one of them grew up or if we want to be more accurate, was forced to grow up, against their will, at the margin of society. I think its the same for Trish, the daughter of the Boss.
Will they (Giorno & Co.) be able to fight Destiny and Fate and to change them? While i was working on this series i kept thinking about it. - Vento Aureo post-scriptum
Giorno is DIO’s ultimate legacy, like Pucci, tuned in a completely opposite direction. He grows up to become like DIO, but better. He is a brilliant, skilled genius, who applies his intelligence towards helping others and working for the betterment of society in a way neither Dio nor the Joestars ever really did. He is someone who is able to convince others to lay down their lives for him without a moment’s hesitation, because he makes friends and partners and unhesitatingly lays down his life for their sake in return. He is charming, attractive and charismatic, traits that make him a great leader and one who allows others around him to thrive and find their own strength. He heals himself and others efficiently without using vampirism. He creates life instead of consuming it, he fights with nature instead of perverting it. He stands proud in the sunlight instead of cowering from it. He is terrifyingly determined, and applies said horrific determination for far greater purposes than just stripping flesh from the weak and flexing over cadavers.
He caps this off by attaining the actual strongest Stand in existence, with no equal to oppose him, and by taking command over the world’s largest criminal empire. He is DIO, but better, and not just morally. Him being the son of DIO who goes on to inherit many of his father’s traits, and apply them for the sake of good, is a powerful statement of intent right out the gate and sets the tone for all the big ideas Vento Aureo’s playing with. His moral greyness, the ways in which he shows us how good he is at lying and cheating and killing, and his abject refusal to endanger innocents and children and cross certain lines, are instrumental to what makes the character work.
Which is something you don’t really get to that effect, if he’s the son of Jonathan. If he’s directly a Joestar, you don’t really get the idea that he was someone born to a terrible fate who was able to turn this fate around for the better, instead it becomes more like he was a JoJo tainted by DIO’s intrusion into the bloodline, and that his DIO-isms serve to make him lesser rather than be instrumental to what makes him better than his father. It makes his existence tied up in DIO’s transgressions against the Joestars, rather than DIO as an entity and bottomless wellspring of evil in his own right, and it places Giorno in a kind of unwanted place almost as a bastard of two families at once.
I do understand where it comes from in that, it’s sorta like that trope you see in fantasy for young adults or children sometimes where a character raised by neglectful or abusive parents eventually discovers their “true” heritage, like some great hero dad that couldn’t be around for them or a saintly mother who died before they were born, and this becomes sort of a catalyst for their own rise into heroism. I think it’s kind of like that, when people think of Giorno as Jonathan’s son or someone whose real father is Jonathan.
That desire for Giorno to have something like a proper family, to have someone he takes his heroism from (rather than just a vague Joestar spirit), to make it so that he doesn’t have to be the son of a wretched disease of a man (and the implication that being so makes him lesser). I truly do understand parts of where this fantasy comes from, the idea that Giorno should be able to disown DIO and have a real father who’s not, well, DIO, but I truly do like that Araki avoided this route and that he never had it be ambiguous that Giorno is DIO’s son, Joestar spirit or not.
Giorno’s story is that he was born into awful circumstances, mistreated and abused and neglected by everyone around him, and undergoing ensuing death of personality as early as the age of 2 that put him well on his way to either being dead, or being rotten to the core like his father, before a random stroke of fate gave him the chance to rise above and let his soul shine as he’d found a dream to believe in. He’d go on to provide this kind of assistance towards others around him, including a girl who herself was born from a vastly powerful ultimate villain. Giorno would go on to defeat and dethrone said ultimate villain and usurp his reign, and in the process, achieve exactly what DIO spent the past century and a half striving for. He’d surpass his fate, surpass his bloodline, and become number one, and he ends his story seated on a throne, waiting patiently as the world lines up to bend the knee before him
While I don’t think of Giorno as Jonathan’s son (not that he doesn’t have Joestar in him), I do think he goes a long way towards proving something that Araki established all the way back in Phantom Blood and would continue to play around with in the other parts, and Vento Aureo especially with the ways Diavolo contrasts Giorno: That evil, true evil, is not just selfish, petty and self-destructive, but also pointless. Useless Useless Useless, as it were, because Dio could have achieved everything he’d wanted, all of his dreams big and small, had he worked with the Joestars instead of against them. That part of the tragedy of what went down between Jonathan and Dio is that, together, they really did make for an excellent team, that they could have achieved anything and overcome whatever came their way.
In Phantom Blood, it was ultimately a tragedy that these extraordinary halves representing mankind were set against each other, that fate set these two on collision course forevermore. But with Vento Aureo, we get to see what happens when said halves work in tandem to achieve the extraordinary, and break the chains of fate that define them. You get Giorno, who breaks the chains of those around him, breaks the paradigm by which the series had been adhering to, and breaks the curse to forge his own future.
If you're still doing the character opinion bingo... N'Doul, please? :D
The N'Doul fight is an all-timer in the series for sure and a pretty stark contrast with later Stand battles, where 90% of the challenge was figuring out how the Stand works so they can counter it. Geb is as simple as Stands can get, conceptually, it’s major advantage being how it benefits from the terrain and N'Doul's own cleverness. He's an excellent introduction to Egypt as the place where shit is gonna get real for the Crusaders, almost taking out the entire party and even disabling Kakyoin all the way to the finale, only beaten by the recent addition of Iggy into the mix. He's a very solid villain and an optimal choice as a entry-level showcase of "this is what a JJBA fight looks like", not surprising that this was the first fight to be adapted into animation as well.
N'Doul and most of the other 9 Glory Gods benefit a lot from Part 3 being saturated with colorful one-note baddies for the Crusaders to routinely beat, because it does wind up making him stick out all the more with his taciturn, focused personality, perfectly befitting a fight that’s entirely based on tense silence punctuated by sudden quick viciousness. A lot of what makes N'Doul memorable is because of that contrast between him and most of the other minions of DIO personality-wise as well as visually, because he's designed to be attractive in a way comparable to Kakyoin, and that throws off your brain a little when you're used to the Crusaders dealing with terribly-dressed sneering cartoons.
To a better extent than Hol Horse, N'Doul wouldn't look at all out of place among the Crusaders as an ally. I’d even say that, in a way, N’Doul reads to me now as a prototype for Enrico Pucci, in the sense of him being this solemn, driven young man with a tragic background driven into DIO’s arms by a need for salvation, and having a number of similarities with the heroes that only serve to punctuate the tragedy that is their suicidal allegiance to evil. I think it’s something that Araki’s been flirting with since Bruford in Part 1 and that saw it’s real potential taking form with Pucci, with N’Doul as the important middle step as someone who was driven to evil out of loneliness and lack of purpose and despair and being manipulated by someone who knew how to prey on his basic human needs. It’s with characters like N’Doul and Wammu that you see Araki first experimenting with that moral greyness he’d eventually make much more extensive use of as the series went along.
What I like most about N'Doul, though, is what he does for the narrative as an enemy for Jotaro to overcome in particular. As the Samurai to Jotaro’s Cowboy, the two get to have a wonderful showdown moment befitting that vibe, and more so than that, I think N’Doul works great as a showcase for Jotaro’s character development because he’s an enemy that Jotaro ends up getting emotionally invested in, an enemy that does go some way towards changing him. More specifically, I think of N’Doul as kind of the benchmark for Jotaro’s growth, the point that fully marks how Jotaro stopped being “just” the next JoJo and fully cemented himself as Jotaro Kujo, the iconic hero in his own right.
This probably has more to do with Araki’s changing tastes and likely not intentional but, I’ve been rewatching Part 3 recently and it just never stops feeling weird hearing Jotaro be called “JoJo” for much of the beginning. Obviously the series needs to keep the JoJo name going, and we’d sat through two other sagas starring guys everyone called JoJo, but with Jotaro, it just constantly feels discomforting, impersonal even. It’s a name that nobody actually close to him calls him, tied to a bloodline he has no connection to until that connection starts killing his mom. He gets called JoJo by his annoying classmates and his distant grandfather and the Crusaders he barely knows at first, and as the part progresses and they become closer and we spend more time with Jotaro, everyone calls him by his actual name. But at first, that name is an antiquated leftover, something that just points to Jotaro as just The Next JoJo and not his own person, a guy who’s just part of the story without belonging in it, if that makes sense.
Because Jotaro’s initially defined a lot by that distance between him and the greater history of conflict he’s getting dragged into. He didn’t grow up with Dio or stories about him, he didn’t take up martial arts to save the world, and unlike with Joseph, the vampire asshole hurting his family didn’t even have the decency to show up at his front door first before trying to kill him. He was just a high school student with an attitude problem one day, and then out of nowhere he gets “possessed” by an unfathomably dangerous thing that pushes him to lock himself up in jail for everyone else’s sake, and next thing he knows, he has to travel across the world with his grandpa and some other guys he barely knows, avoiding superpowered murderers every hour of every day with no rest, so he can go kill some evil thing he didn’t even know existed, because otherwise his mom’s gonna die.
And it’s through the course of Part 3 that we see him grow as a person and as a fighter, grow closer to the Crusaders who all start to know him better than anyone else ever did. We see him become the guy that evildoers around the world fear, we see how he owns that legacy he has within the Joestar bloodline and the destiny that comes with it, and in the following parts Jotaro takes over Joseph’s role as the main tether to it that everyone else has, older and more responsible and carrying that weight on his shoulders (for better or worse and, by the time of Part 6, definitely for the worse).
And I think it is N’Doul who really starts this transition for him on-screen because of how he shakes things up, not merely because he’s more than just another bloodthirsty maniac among the dozens Jotaro’s beaten up over the past days, but because he’s someone so devoted to that evil thing that he kills himself in front of Jotaro. Jotaro had seen people die, he’d seen DIO’s subordinates be offed in front of him, but this is the first time he sees someone commit actual suicide in front of him over DIO, and he’s powerless to save him as he did for Kakyoin and Polnareff (while this is probably not intentional, the fact that Star Platinum exhibited enough strength to smash car-sized diamonds and punch holes straight through DIO definitely makes it seem like Jotaro was pulling his punches quite a bit over the part)
Jotaro meets N’Doul, a man with virtues and qualities that Jotaro recognizes enough to feel some kind of kinship towards him, and he has to watch that man skewer his brains out in front of him using his own Stand. We don’t really get much talkative introspection out of Jotaro in general because of the way he’s written but, prior to the N’Doul fight, the only other time we’d been allowed enough into Jotaro’s headspace was a brief moment in the Death 13 arc where Jotaro reflects that he’s 4.000 miles from home and it’s been 4 weeks and he’s getting worried they won’t make it in time. As in, his driving motivation still remains just getting to DIO in time to save his mom. Obviously not something anyone can criticize him for worrying about but,
In the aftermath of the N’Doul fight, we see Jotaro thinking about DIO specifically, really the first time we see him even address him proper after the beginning where he doesn’t even think DIO exists. DIO is weighing on his mind, he wonders what kind of man is he, the kind of power he has over people’s minds, what other horrors he’s gonna throw their way. He gets emotional yelling at a dying N’Doul and asking him to tell him why, why are you killing yourselves for that man, why is this worth dying for to you people, and N’Doul uses his dying breath to open up about his background and power, and give him the Evil Savior speech. And I think this is kind of when Jotaro finally internalizes what kind of power DIO has, something that makes him existentially monstrous and dangerous on a bigger level than just the things he’s done to his family and friends, or to countless others before and now, or that he’s causing to his mom right this second, or even that he’s done to the fanatics under his thrall he’d sent to die fighting them.
Enya was one thing, and all the Crusaders were pretty shaken about that even then, but this? That’s the kind of thing that gets Jotaro to make a grave, because there’s nothing else he could possibly do, for a guy he’d just seen rip off the faces of innocent people and blind his friend. For a guy that Jotaro didn’t want to kill, a guy who really, really didn’t have to die, a guy who could have been something else, something better, really just something at all, other than just another corpse with DIO’s name on it.
I think of this as the moment where Jotaro truly internally grows into the hero of the story, as the only one who could stop DIO. Who came to understand DIO a little better than the others. Jotaro grows to be DIO’s nemesis not just because he’s equally powerful, or equally determined, or better at stacking up bullshit tricks to win fights, but because he refuses for even a second to entertain DIO, because he'd seen again and again the horrors DIO can wreak if he gets even an inch worth of breathing room (and it STILL doesn’t stop Jotaro from falling for DIO’s bullshit and almost dying in DIO’s World). There is no history between the two as there was with Jonathan, nothing other than savagery and hatred. DIO’s been shitting over everything and everyone for years and it just so happens that Jotaro was given a mop to clean it up. Jotaro was the enemy DIO deserved.
At no point did Jotaro get a choice in the matter, when it came to entering this journey, it was either this or sitting by watching his family die. But here, we see how personally he’ staking it to oppose DIO for reasons other than his mom’s predictament. Iit’s also important that, immediately following N’Doul’s burial and Jotaro’s thinking, we get the scene where he bonds with Iggy, saying he’s not mad for Iggy having screwed him over during the fight and that he doesn’t blame Iggy for being pissed that he got dragged away from home to fight in the desert, and extending the gum as an olive branch, a pretty far cry from what the self-proclaimed “nobody ever said Jotaro Kujo was nice" guy from early in the part would have done (also not an inaccurate way to describe what Jotaro himself went through, no wonder he’s the first to sympathize with Iggy).
Though his trials were countless, it was N’Doul that most prepared Jotaro mentally for the battle against DIO and his unending evil, not just in Cairo, but in the following decades. And I think of N’Doul’s burial as the moment that made Jotaro choose, of his own volition, to step up into his role as DIO’s Enemy, for all the good that would do him. Maybe evil needs a savior, but so do those who need to be saved from it.
I realize I spent most of this post about N’Doul talking about Jotaro but honestly I do think of that as a mark of him being a great villain, I think he brought out something real special out of Jotaro as a character during that fight.
Here’s part 2! More coming tomorrow!
May your 25th of May be glorious! Here's to Truth, Justice, Freedom, Reasonably Priced Love, and a Hard Boiled Egg.
FUCK. honestly just FUCK. We missed a very important day yesterday.
what was yesterday, cat?
I’m not missing it this year.
Disco Elysium Custom Skills Masterpost
72 Skills for your deranged detective to experience violently.
(My wife helped compiled them for me, so massive thanks to her!)
I was mugged by snow white and the seven dwarves the other day. six dwarves now, I suppose. kneed dipshit or dopey or whatever he was called in the eye socket so hard he died before his limp body hit the ground. they all scattered after that. I'll never forget how they wailed his name
The reason your fantasy pantheon doesn't feel authentic is because you're starting from the wrong end. Real-world polytheism is syncretic – just deities from neighbouring cultures getting smashed together at high speed and leaving it for nerds with too much time on their hands to figure out how it makes sense. You are yourself a nerd with too much time on your hands. Don't start out asking yourself what domains make sense together. Pick domains at random and work backwards to invent a theology and metaphysics whereby of course the god of war is also the god of baked goods. What kind of silly question is that?
It's also the product of a BUNCH of nerds with too much time on their hands. Explain some theology to an opinionated friend! Classify whatever they come up with as heresy! Or at least make it a recurring background argument.