Most of society only sees trans men as trans, but most of the queer community only sees trans men as men.
Trans men don't get to be both trans and men. They are one or the other depending on which one can be better used to hurt them.

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Most of society only sees trans men as trans, but most of the queer community only sees trans men as men.
Trans men don't get to be both trans and men. They are one or the other depending on which one can be better used to hurt them.
trans men being "allowed" (and often times forced) into "womens spaces and communities" isnt "at the expense of trans women", you just view trans men existing as taking up space that could be used for trans women because you want trans men eradicated
it is genuinely concerning to me how many people on this website don't think hating on trans men is transphobic.
they'll say "omg look at these whiney transandrocunt theyfab birthday boys" and get surprised when you tell them that that's transphobic
Trans man: I have a complicated relationship to gender and masculinity and don’t vibe with the expectations of heterosexual relationships in our society.
Plaidos: Hey I’m thinking about your genitals right now. Can I use a misogynistic derogatory word for your genitalia, fantasize about you being penetrated, and imply that being born with a vagina makes you privileged? You’re just sooo rapey and predatory :(
experiencing discrimination and hatred from your own mother because you're finally starting to pass and you're not the "perfect little hyperfeminine baby girl" she's forced you to be all your life is NOT for the weak
If you’re not a trans woman you need to get way more comfortable with trans women talking about issues that don’t affect you. If you’re not a trans man you need to be ok with trans men talking about their own experiences that don’t affect you. If you’re not non binary you need to stop being weird about nonbinary people talking about the poor treatment they get for being nonbinary. If you’re not intersex you need to stop inserting yourself into conversations that aren’t about you and begging to be centered. Everyone get less self centered NOW!!!!
The direct links between:
Trans men being seen as "undesirable, unfuckable women" after transitioning
Trans men being one of the demographics of the LGBT community at highest risk of rape
Trans men being targets of forced detransition via corrective rape and forced pregnancy
People denying both that this increased risk of rape and forced detransition even exists, and instead attributing it to trans men being "TERFs in waiting"
People insisting that trans men being seen as unfuckable women and/or mentally ill girls protects them from systemic violence and therefore makes them less worthy of protection
would be funny if it wasn't fucking terrifying. When you deny the reality of transandrophobia- when you claim that trans men are lucky to "only" be seen as "ugly mentally ill girls"- you are enabling societal violence against trans men.
i literally had someone that im not a real trans man and im "infantilizing" myself because i call myself a tboy??
well yeah im not a trans "man". im a trans boy. im a teenager. man feels odd for my age. ofc i use tboy for myself. people have no respect for trans people if theyre minors i think
is this transandrophobia?
This is transandrophobia
even if I'm a minor myself I use trans man bc using "boy" feels infantilizing myself. but then again, if that feels right for others I don't mind.. but why the hell
In case anyone was wondering about the current state of transfeminism, one of the most praised transfeminist authors just boldly and unapologetically referred to someone as "tdickmatized".
We're supposed to take seriously the critiques of a woman who is coming up with new derogatory terms for transmascs in relation to their genitals.
Telling trans men to stop making everything about us is hilarious to me because when is anything ever about us
Incredible work simultaneously blaming trans men for their own need to join teams that don’t align with their identity (or else end their careers entirely) while reaffirming the sexist structure of sports but like, wokely. I agree this and all “women’s teams” should sign trans women but like what are we doing here. Why are we acting like this is some kind of unforgivable misogynistic act that poor wombyn are going to be FORCED to play with a MAN (no it’s ok he’s trans so it’s actually super affirming to say that!!!) and not like. Focus on how it sucks that trans athletes have to make these kinds of choices. Wait I know why it’s bc hating transmasculine ppl is considered cool right now
The levels of mental gymnastics involved in this is killing me
For one, calling that random guy a nazi defender because one person 7 years ago used the same word in one post getting less than 50 notes that is now used to mean something completely different. The level of mental gymnastics good god.
But now lets address the random 'you think you haven't gone far enough? Well one of you did something admittedly pretty bad so now clearly none of you get to advocate for yourself'
Yall tried to get me fucking MURDERED. You tracked down my ip address or whatever, found my full legal name (not my trans name btw the girl name that is on my documents. Tried to contact my traffickers so that they would 'come and shut me up'.
Talking about 'this is who agrees with you'
Yall threatened a 16 year old boy with rape & murder of his family members, accusing him of being an adult terf even after he showed you his birth certificate and schoolwork
Yall bullied a black 'tma' transneufem off the internet because they didn't like the way you talked about trans boys who are punks.
Yall sent an intersex transmasc TEENAGER who had been through igm photos of fresh and bloody igm images to scare him
Talking about some 'transandrobro did this so every transmasc is culpable shit'. Fix your own side of discourse first you fucking losers.
How people think being a trans man works
Transmasc: I am transmasc actually
People: Oh thank God you're not a woman. Here's the hormones, here's your birth certificate control, here's your male privilege, here's your male clothes and you'll be immediately accepted into male spaces with no problem! You're so much better than those vile women.
How it generally happens:
Transmasc: I am a man
People: no you're not, you're a fucking freak. Why do you want to ruin your body with T. Don't take off your uterus and tits what if your hypothetical future husband wants kids. What do you mean you don't want them. Also you'll not be safe in male only spaces nor be safe in female only spaces. Congrats on the newfound easiness of being sexually abused too. Oh also don't forget about people telling you to shut up now not because you're a woman, but because you're a man.
cis people to trans men before they come out: women fucking SUCK lmfao, you are a fucking idiot for being a woman
trans men: damn misogyny sucks
trans men later: hey i think im a trans man
the trans community for some fucking reason: trans men SUCK, why would you betray women?? youre a fucking idiot for being a trans man
trans men: hey this reminds me of the misogyny i experienced when i was a-
the trans community: I CANT BELIEVE YOURE WEAPONIZING YOUR AGAB THIS IS AFAB PRIVILEGE YOU MRA TERF BITCH
the evolution from 'transmascs dont do anything but be uwu fandom boys' to 'why dont you write/draw/work for US' (from every group btw) the second they realised how talented and creative transmasculine people can be has got to be studied.
Not necessarily transandrophobia, but transmasculinity is so not talked about to the degree of me seeing some transfems unironically go "Oh, transmasc voice train too?" "Transmascs have bottom surgery too?"
Like, girl, are we for real now...
This is transandrophobia
"trans men aren't real" fuck you