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The Invisible Pressure: Asexuality, Relationships, and Consent
There is an insidious, quiet violence that asexual people, particularly sex-repulsed aces, are subjected to in relationships. It’s not loud. It doesn’t always look like abuse. Sometimes, it’s dressed up in the language of “compromise”. Sometimes, it’s even endorsed by therapists and relationship “experts.”
But at the root of it is this one idea: That sex is the cornerstone of every valid relationship. That if you don’t want sex, something is wrong with you. That your partner is entitled to sex. That you, as an asexual person, owe it to them because that’s “just how relationships work.”
Asexual people are constantly navigating a world that tells us our love is incomplete unless it includes sex. That our boundaries are just hurdles to be negotiated. And that if we’re not careful, we’ll be the one accused of being selfish or withholding.
And the truth is, this pressure doesn’t only happen in unhealthy relationships. It can exist even in good ones. Even in the ones where your partner is kind and respectful and never once demands anything of you. Even when your partner is loving, patient, supportive—the ideal partner. The pressure doesn’t just vanish because the person next to you is good. Because the pressure isn’t coming from them: it’s coming from the world around you.
So even in the safest relationships, we still carry that fear. That if we say no too often, too permanently, we’ll eventually be left behind—not because our partner is cruel, but because we were never what society told them to want. And that’s what makes the pressure so hard to name, so hard to fight. So easy to internalize.
Then, even the most well-meaning conversations about consent often fail us. Why? Because while people are taught to respect a “no” in the moment, there’s still the underlying assumption that “no” is temporary. That eventually, we’ll change our minds. That if someone is patient, kind, persistent enough—we’ll come around. But some of us don’t. Some of us never want sex. Not now. Not later. Not eventually. And the idea that permanent or indefinite boundaries are abnormal is what pushes so many asexual people into violating their own comfort to meet someone else’s expectations.
It’s a form of slow coercion, cloaked in the language of compromise.
And when asexual people bring this into therapy—when we try to advocate for ourselves—we’re often met with therapists who have internalized the same cultural script. A script that says “sex is a need and part of a healthy relationship”. We’re encouraged to meet halfway.
But “halfway” always seems to mean giving up your boundaries to preserve the relationship.
Where is the room for our needs? For the idea that sex is not an automatic default but a choice, one that should never be coerced—whether overtly or through guilt, shame, or the threat of abandonment?
Too often, asexual people are pressured into saying yes to things we don’t want. Not because we’re comfortable with it. Not because our desires have changed. But because we’re terrified of being left. Because we’ve been taught that we’re the broken one. That we’re the reason the relationship is “failing.”
We are not broken. We are not selfish. And sex is not the sole measure of love, intimacy, or commitment. A relationship without sex is still a real relationship.
Consent only means something when it includes the possibility of permanent, indefinite boundaries. If “no” isn’t allowed to be forever, it was never truly respected to begin with.
Sex repulsed people should not have to walk on eggshells when discussing their orientation and constantly remind everyone that they're totally fine with other people having sex and that they're not an anti-sex puritan. You're allowed to be grossed out by the thought of sex and you should not feel like a bad person for your discomfort, no explanation or justification needed. If anyone tells you you're harming others just by being grossed out they're full of shit
[ID from alt: picture of a person's glowing blue silhouette leaving their body, with the caption "the leftism leaving people's bodies when you tell them sex is morally neutral." End ID.]
saw too many posts that pissed me off, so here. for all your "alleged leftist saying masturbating is destroying society" needs AND all your "alleged leftist saying having sex is morally necessary to defeat fascism" needs. (please keep image description and/or alt text if you repost)
in case it wasn't a clear enough corollary, getting grossed out by sex is also morally neutral. the people who equate "having and enjoying sex" with "fighting fascism," and use "grossed out by sex" as a synonym for "policing what consenting adults do" are also not getting "sex is morally neutral" through their heads, at all. you can be grossed out by something without thinking it's morally wrong or should be illegal; you can be grossed out by sex without it saying anything about your politics. sex repulsion also doesn't need to be "cured" to make anyone a more progressive or accepting person. sometimes sex repulsion Just Is, and it doesn't mean anything other than "yeah i'd like to avoid sex personally, thanks"
the reason i made this post was because i was angry about not being able to find sex positivity posts that didn't either imply sex repulsion is fascist (way too common), or word things poorly in a way that probably wasn't malicious, but made it hard to be sure that that wasn't what they meant. you can be a proud gooner without needing to justify it by saying it's praxis or it's morally necessary, i promise
“They’re just looking for attention.”
Oh, a human being is seeking a social response? Human being, the social animal wired to make and track social connection? A human desires the vital blood that permitted their species to survive for millennia? The human being who was born completely helpless and primed in every way by nature to seek attention and help from their community?
Wow that’s crazy. How embarrassing. Humiliating even. Should we isolate them from community? Should we call Wire Mother?
Me, ironically, getting attention on this post: damn it’s feeling very Cloth Mother in here…
what's up, coming at you as one of those dirty-minded smut enjoying asexuals handing out water at the orgy or whatever the fuck people say. anyway, lately i get this kind of insidious sense that people think of sex-positive or sex-favorable aces as the "cool" aces. like "hey don't worry man, i'm asexual but you don't have to do anything to accommodate it." And of course it's a spectrum/umbrella, people can be asexual and sex-positive or sex-favorable, i know that from experience. But i worry it's also seen as the *more palatable* version of asexuality.
So here's the reminder that you are not weird or prudish or childish or mean if you don't want people talking about sex around you. You are not morally reprehensible or puritan or fascist if sex makes you uncomfortable or upset. if someone tries to make you feel ashamed of that discomfort, or pushes your boundaries on purpose just because they can, they're the ones in the wrong for not respecting you. Never, ever compromise yourself for the sake of people who think you're less than for how you feel and who you are.
Aggressive reminder, also, that that "asexuals will hand out water bottles at the orgy" post is and always was just lowkey acephobia. Asexuals do not exist to serve anyone. We do not owe allos a certain level of assistance, enabling, or participation in exchange for respect and acceptance. We do not have to facilitate anyone else's sexuality. We do not have to be cheerleaders or wingmen. We do not have to laugh at anyone's jokes. We do not have to be fun or palatable. We are allowed to (and should) take up space and have our own agenda.
The allos will hand out water at their own fucking orgy.
this also goes for the new trend of allos constantly doing the “aces write the best smut” and “aros write the best fluff.” it’s obvious so many of yall only see our identities as something that can be useful to you.
(Sex positive is specifically in relation to the movement. Sex favorable and disgusted/averse are specifically ace language)
Also reminder that that does mean you are practising acephobia when you try to force people who are uncomfortable with sex out of queer spaces or try to push well-meaning but uncomfortable aces into accepting your "normal" sexual behaviour, no matter how much jargon or therapy speak you cover it with.
Yes, that means you, person blatantly flirting with an asexual after they've asked you to stop and insisting it's just compliments.
Yes, that means you, person who responds to someone politely asking you to stop making so many crude sexual jokes around them by asking "ok but what exactly about my jokes upsets you? where's the line? Can you talk in great detail about this thing that upsets you so I ~~can get as close to the line as possible while pretending not to cross it~~ don't cross it?" You know where the line is. You know perfectly well what is and isn't sexual. Feigning ignorance to discriminate
Yes that means you, person who tells the sex repulsed asexual that they're being queerphobic because they asked that the condoms and dental dams and safe sex pamphlets not be the literal first thing they have to see when they walk into a queer space (not that they shouldn't exist, but I've been in too many queer spaces where they're literally on a table at eye level right in front of the door like dealing with them is a minimum requirement for entry in the name of "accessibility").
Of course sex has an important place in the queer community. But so do aces, and that doesn't end because we're sex-repulsed.
Racism against Indians is actually a little insane when you consider how widespread it is even among liberals and leftists . Even people who consider themselves to be progressive will laugh at call center or tech support jokes. All scammers are inherently indian. It’s okay to laugh at jokes making fun of Indians for their feelings towards animals or how they drive. India is inherently backwards and dirty so it’s okay to make jokes about getting food poisoning from even looking at indian food
Don't forget they ruined the housing market that was already well on its way to being fucked before they got here.
Hey assholes, I've got articles from 2010 literally predicting what we're going through right now but no, it was definitely immigration and definitely from specifically India and definitely not just you being horribly fucking racist, right?
I was in a long-term relationship that fell apart partially because I was ace and my partner was very much not, and every time we looked for relationship help we got told that I was the problem. Not just that a significant mismatch in sexual desire could be a problem in a relationship, but that it was My Fault, Specifically, for not being willing to suck it up and have a bunch of sex I didn't want. To my ex's credit, he cared about consent much more than any of the professionals we talked to and refused to pressure me even when my (lesbian, billed as progressive and pro-LGBT) therapist was actively telling him to.
But it meant that we had absolutely no help or support when we were trying to work on the relationship in ways that *did* value my autonomy. There's basically no advice for people who want to try to make a relationship where there's a big desire gap work that isn't "well you should just have sex anyway" or "just break up lol". And that sucks!
Sometimes breaking up is necessary, and that's what ended up happening with us because there were other reasons we worked better as friends, but there *should* be better frameworks for discussing what people want and need that don't automatically assume that one partner's feelings are automatically more important or valuable than the other's.
I was dating someone who wanted to be accommodating and work with me to figure things out but lacked the EQ to do so in any effective way. It was my first relationship and I was still figuring out what being ace meant for me. It’s been eight or nine years, but I still remember very clearly the moment I realized we’d been approaching the entire discussion as if my orientation was the problem to be solved, and that it would be equally as valid to say that hers was.
She was significantly less impressed with this revelation than I was, but I tried to hold on to it ever since (although obviously the real problem wasn’t either one of us, but the mismatch and the lack of tools to deal with it). I think it’s super important to remember that we aren’t the ones in the wrong while our theoretical partners are the ones in the right. I was surprised by how much I’d internalized the assumption and I don’t think I’m the only one.
Yeah. I kind of completely stopped looking for a relationship for this reason. Anytime I say I want one I'm considered the unreasonable one, the one who has to change. Because I'm sex-repulsed so I can't give an allo partner sex, but also not aromantic so I can't exactly go looking at an ace/aro group. Which is all the ace groups in my area. It's really messed up that no matter where I go I'm the problem
oh god i just realized ive been posting on corporeal tumblr this whole time 🤦
Some of you just use being "anti-puritan" as an excuse to be aphobic and it shows
if your response to, “I wish there was more sex repulsed asexual representation,” is to point out not all aces are sex repulsed, maybe first stop and ask yourself why you are doing that. We live in a society that’s constantly telling us we need to have sex and I’m so glad there are aces who aren’t bothered by that, but it doesn’t invalidate those of us that do not want to. This isn’t a competition, I want to see all kinds of aces, being upset with a lack of respect for sex repulsed aces doesn’t mean I think the rep that’s already there for sex favorable aces should be changed. I am capable of wanting both, why aren’t you?
Please remember there are asexuals who want nothing to do with sex, and that's okay.
Y'know what no actually I'm posting about this because it's genuinely really fucking getting to me. I'm so fucking exhausted by how it feels like some people just took "some asexual people can still want sex, and that doesn't make them no longer ace" and just devolved into "oh so ace people can want sex? cool well i'm going to assume ace people/ace characters must want sex at least a LITTLE 'cause who doesn't?" It's genuinely really fucking upsetting that as an aroace, even in LGBTQ+ spaces, even in asexual spaces, I feel like I'm STILL faced with the same acephobia I would get from non-LGBTQ+ people. From non-asexual people. I feel like I'm still having to face the bullshit of "I don't care if you say you're asexual, there are asexual people who do want sex and do have sex so you're still the weird one." I feel like I still have to face that fucking idea that "everyone wants it, you'll want it eventually, or you'll do it because a partner wants it." No! I don't! and I'm tired of people in my own fucking community making me feel even more fucking broken and alone and making me feel like now instead of being discriminated against for being asexual, it's just turned into being discriminated against for being "one of those asexuals." in the fucking "I'm not like those queer people" way. I'm just so exhausted by this shit. Obviously I think asexual people who do want or have sex are valid. But I'm fucking tired of people making me feel like I must be broken and there must be something wrong with me if I'm an asexual who doesn't have or want sex. it just genuinely makes me feel like.. if being asexual means you're still gonna get perceived as maybe wanting sex and if being open about being a sex-repulsed asexual gets people saying "well don't push your trauma onto other people/make it other people's problem" then what the fuck am i that people can relate to. because it just. makes me feel like the community of people who are like me is a lot smaller than i thought.
This. This is so real. The casual discrimination of sex repulsed asexuals exists, is constant and is really gross and I'm tired, boss
I finally understand why that argument was always making me angry
You guys need to recognize that the push to treat ace and aro discourse as stupid infighting that never left tumblr is indeed a manifestation of the continued erasure and devaluing of asexuality, aromanticism, and and ace and aro lives in an effort to pretend that the people who did it weren't part of a reactionary hate movement that completely decimated two entire marginalized communities both on and offline.
Like I try to be nice about this but I have seen SO many fucking people being like "lol yeah ace/aro discourse was one thing" and that is deliberate erasure of real and important queer history in service of dodging blame on the parties that did this who, for the most part, never fucking apologized or owned up to it, or, in the case of a few blogs I still see going around, clearly still stand by all of it and just hope you don't point that out, and ofc, no one ever fucking does.
Stop downplaying the absolute fucking devastation the queer community did to ace and aro people and our communities. If owning it makes you uncomfortable, good, go make it right, and start by not fucking lying about what happened, thanks.
Everyone will think I'm crazy, but I cannot stress that an atrocity was done to ace and aro people, and we never got so much as a fucking apology.
I do want to say if you got caught up in this I don't hate you, especially if you learned and changed, because like most reactionary hate movements ace/aro discourse was always presented as righteous and fun, and also it was EVERYWHERE and the people stirring shit were very well articulated. A lot of us were teenagers joining queer spaces for the first time ever and we wanted to belong and sometimes that means hating who the people who already belong tell you to hate. I get why people fell for it, I came close a few times myself when I was at my lowest and most desperate to feel like I belonged again. I get it.
I can't offer forgiveness or absolution to everyone, but you don't need me to forgive you to forgive yourself and move on, and I do think most of the people who got caught up in it have more than earned moving on.
However, what I want is for everyone to stop downplaying it. Don't call it stupid infighting, don't go "ace stuff was one thing but this with trans men is too far" don't claim it didn't leave tumblr or the internet, own how bad it was. If you were there you know, and your history is valuable, so even when it sucks please be honest about what happened. This part of queer history should not be forgotten, and especially not for the people who never really changed and have an interest in making sure everyone thinks this was just some silly infighting.
That's what I ask, do right by us, don't let us be erased again.
Especially because when you forget, when you downplay it, you downplay what's happened with truscum shit, with biphobia, and now with trans masc exclusion. You downplay it and you disguise that it's the same people saying the same things about a new group. I found out about the rise in trans man/masc exclusion because I saw someone saying that trans men are collateral damage secondary to the real targets of transphobia, trans women, and I immediately knew the person saying it was a shithead I should NEVER trust because that is exactly what they said about bi and ace and aro people. Word for word.
You do those who were hurt a disservice when you downplay what happened, but you also make our spaces less safe because if we pretend what happened didn't we can't stop it when it starts again.
And it always starts again.
Reblogging again after seeing YET ANOTHER person say ace/aro discourse wasn't mainstream and didn't leave the internet. People got kicked out of irl queer spaces behind this, stop fucking lying about what happened. At this point more someone pushes the "ace/aro discourse was bad but not mainstream/offline/as bad as what's happening now with [xyz group]" the more I think you have a vested interest in making it out to be not a big deal and that doesn't say anything good about you.
Like y'all claim to be against oppression olympics, but you're still engaging with it every single time you say anything even remotely like "ace/aro discourse was really bad but nothing as serious as what's happening now" and I'm sick of pretending it's not oppression olympics and also not a manifestation of the continued violence against ace and aro people. If the only way you're going to talk about what happened is through downplaying our suffering and/or spreading misinformation about it, do me and every other aro and ace person a favor and stop fucking talking about us.
I mean it's still happening in many ways but people don't really like to admit it anymore. Just because a person doesn't say the word "ace" doesn't mean they arent being acephobic. I still regularly get told I dont belong in Pride spaces and my opinion and comfort doesn't matter. It just gets spun into me being a prude and pretending that what I'm asking for is unreasonable when I'm asking to like... move a table two feet left so it's even physically possible to walk into the room without staring at dental dams. Or a giant dick sculpture. Separate instances, by the way.
Sex repulsed aces are queer too. Stop acting like we aren't.
Let's say I really wanted to reduce the number of children who die in car accidents. Car accidents are really bad, right? Nobody disagrees about that. And it would be much better for both the environment and the kids' health if they spent more time walking, or taking the bus. Perfectly reasonable. More cars off the road, safer roads, fewer kids getting hurt, healthier kids. A win-win!
Therefore, let's ban children from traveling by car and require all cars to have a scanner on the door that scans the government ID of everyone who gets in the car to make sure no kids are in there. After all, kids get hurt in car accidents all the time! We need to ban this right away!
The thing we're about to learn in this current wave of social media bans is just how much of the infrastructure of our society we have allowed to be captured by a handful of social media companies. And thus, how much of the world we are shutting a whole demographic out of by banning it for them. If we decide as a society that we want to do this, we can't do it without building the equivalent of a robust public transit network first.
Sure, some kids would start walking to school. But some would just be stuck at home. Forever.