“I’m Getting Her Back” 🦇🌸

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Stars Eternal and Night Triumphant

Lady Death and lord of bloodshed

Death and his lovely fawn

Bird of flame and

lord of fire

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The moment e/ucien realised that Lucien is stuck in this mating system as much as Elain, will be the moment I know peace

They can never convinced me that Lucien love Elain because who she is but only coz of the mating instinct. And this is not an insult.

Them two never had a proper conversation.

So why do they convinced that Elain is the key to Lucien’s happiness??

The only reason he pursuing her is because of the mate instinct. He feels miserable in a room w her more than two minute. He does not always want to see Elain when travel to the NC. Elain is nothing like Jesminda etc like he’s so clear abt that.

I truly think most of e/ucien doesn’t really want lucien end up w elain. They just want lucien to have some kind of prize after his endurance for ‘yearning’.

A male character could do a lot of questionable shit but god forbid if he yearns!!!!! thats it he needs happiness. NOW!!

But Elain who got her life turn 180 and lose her humanity is a brat for not yearning back. Aha ha ha hmm

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“Give Elain to Tamlin. I want her to leave Az and Lucien alone”

This is one of the most evil and horrible things you could ever said abt a woman even if she’s fictional.

Is because you know Tamlin is an abuser. Thats why you want her to go to him.

I dunno guys, wishing a woman end up with an abuser do tell something abt how you think as a person. Wishing a woman misery in the hands of a man is a thing id never wish to my enemy.

yall can hide under the “but she’s not real” umbrella all u want but the fact your mind go to that direction when thinking abt a woman is so frightening.

[mabevil]

watching obsession and thinking about how e/uciens would do this to elain in a heartbeat so long as it meant she ended up with lucien 🫠

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antis must be delusional to think that outside of the fandom (outside of their cult actually), people do not want to read abt Elain

Casual readers might not necessarily like her but they genuinely want to know more abt her. She is one of the main characters. She is the mystery 3rd sister who went into the cauldron, who is present since the first book. The 3/3 of the whole set of 3.

So screaming in comment section abt how Elain is bland or how boring she is to you would not negate the fact that SJM since acomaf intended to write an Elain book.

Again antis like to equate how much they hate Elain to how important she is. Theyre like “if I hate her and my cult leader also agreed then this must mean everyone also think the same and therefore Elain is undeserving of a book”

If she is bland and boring as u claimed, then how could she ignite this strong emotion from yall. Wanting her death solely for being boring is quite a stretch isnt it? Coz lets be real yall never hate Elain for the fact that she’s ‘boring’. Its because..

SHE IS A THREAT TO YOUR SHIP.

Theres no reason for you to passionately hate Elain other than that reason. Her sole existence specifically in the Night Court is so damning to ur ship. “She can’t stay in the NC. She must be evil. I want her de@d. She will be human again.” Anything just so she will not be in the Night Court

The fact that antis are that scared and that opposed and have this strong feeling abt Elain getting a book is so weird to me. If ur ship is as strong as steel, Elain getting a book would not be a problem. Its like…they know Elain’s book is inevitable so they hope screaming in the comment section would make sjm/bb change their mind???

Again if ur secure with ur stance then there’s nothing to be afraid of right? right?

Antis never said this out loud but they certainly wish a certain red head character received the ‘3rd sister treatment. yk an aunt to somebody, a sister to somebody, a sister in law to somebody, a part of this core group and most importantly a dream girl to NOT ONE BUT TWO GUYS!!!!! oh lord

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What if Elain and Azriel are mates?

I know it sounds crazy, but bare with me.

In the Throne of Glass series, Rowan was convinced from the moment he first laid eyes on Lyria that she was his mate. He believed that for centuries and every day since, even after falling in love with Aelin.

However, in the end, it was all a trick orchestrated by Maeve to turn him into her servant. What if that’s what went on with Lucien, Elain and The King of Hybern.

What if the King of Hybern (who we all know is NOT an idiot) saw how faltering Lucien’s loyalty to Tamlin was becoming and how dangerous that could be to him during the war, but couldn’t risk killing Lucien and ruining the alliance with Tamlin and The Spring Court. So, as a way to ensure Lucien’s loyalty, he tricked him into believing that Elain was his mate, because he never expected her to get away with the rest of The Court of Dreams at the end of ACOMAF. He expected to have Elain locked away at his side (as she temporarily is in ACOWAR) with Lucien right there, ready to do anything for The King as long as he didn’t harm her.

The King of Hybern had The Cauldron. He broke an unbreakable bond, turned humans into high fae, destroyed the entire wall in the blink of an eye and he almost cleaved the world apart with it. Creating an elaborate illusion is certainly not beyond him.

It would also explain why Lucien, despite always being concerned with Elian’s safety, wasn’t hesitant about leaving her at The Night Court when he left for The Continent. In fact, when he returned, he didn’t even ask about her or try and find her in the middle of a deadly battle where she could be in serious harm. In fact, Elain shows little to no interest in him at all. She is simply indifferent to him.

If Lucien was not Elain’s mate but Azriel was, it would also explain why Azriel was so quick to take a liking to her. He was supposedly in love with Mor for five hundred years, but if both Elain and Mor were in the same room, his attention would always be directed towards Elain. Even Mor noticed it and pointed it out herself.

Elain trusted Azriel enough to not fear him, even though she knew exactly what and who he was, and exactly how dangerous he could be. She was never scared of him. Oh, and here’s the real kicker, Azriel gave her Turthteller. Remember, that weapon that he has never so much as let anyone touch, not even his high lord, not even his brothers or the woman he supposedly loves? He handed it over to her despite barely knowing her.

Maybe it’s just me. Maybe I find Azriel and Elain as a couple makes more sense to me then Elain and Lucien together, and perhaps I think Azriel and Elain have much better chemistry. However, there were way too many hints and clues pointing towards Elriel, and we all know SJMaas does not just do that for no reason. They could be each other’s temporary romantic interest, but they’ve both had they’re hearts broken by the person they believed they were meant to be with.

So maybe this isn’t a crazy theory, and maybe they are mates. We’ll just have to wait and see.

[elainsgirl]

Do you want to know why I am so sure elucien isn’t endgame?

Look at eluciens. Look at how they treat Elain.

Elains toxic for making a move on the man SHE wants all because she hasn’t rejected a bond forced onto her. She didn’t set out to make a move on Azriel, it was the way events unfolded. She isn’t leading Lucien on, she’s made it clear she does not want him yet they still label her as toxic.

Do you genuinely believe Maas is going to support the sentiment of this take? Maas who justified elains reaction to Lucien and how she is dealing with the bond in the CHD interview, do you think that same author is going to turn around and be like “oh Yh Elain is definitely toxic for what she did in the bonus!”

“But Elain is disrespecting the sacredy of bonds! Of fae culture!”

The fact eluciens cannot comprehend that the sacredity of the bond IS actively being potrayed as an issue in Prynthian by Maas. Mates, who are miserable together, still stay together BECAUSE they believe the bond is sacred and they were chosen together for a reason -> That is the issue. The sacredy of mating bonds isn’t something Maas idolises especially bonds where its forced and the couples do not want each other.

The fact they’ve simply proven they see Elain as an extension of Lucien, not her own person entitled to her own feelings. She is not toxic for not wanting Lucien. She is not toxic for naturally making a move on someone SHE wants. She is not toxic for how she is treating Lucien.

To actually label Elain as toxic is genuinely so disgusting. How are grown women proudly showing themselves as misogynists. All because she does not want the man responsible for shoving her into the cauldron per Sjm’s own words? All because she wants someone else?

“She should reject the bond first!” Why is the first ever bond rejection going to take place in someone else’s book? Elain has rejected Lucien in all the human ways. You cannot say she is leading him on.

Sjm isn’t going to make the couple endgame that supports the message “women belong to men even if they do not want them.”

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All her future must be somehow included Lucien. With Lucien. Lucien’s friends. Lucien’s journey. Lucien’s feeling.

Lucien’s feeling’s hurt. Valid. Poor my baby boy

Elain’s loose her newfound boldnesss around lucien. She’s still healing. Toxic. Rude. She need to redeem herself

They always use the “we need her pov” card. They could take Lucien’s word and accept it to be the truth but never when it comes to Elain

They know if they ever side with Elain that would mean entering the elriel talking point.

If you’re actually believe everything Elain said and accept it as how she felt and what she wants then you’re an elriel. congrats.

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“I dont want Elain’s book coz why would i read abt flower and gardening for 900 pages i would rather stare at a wall. I might read it if she’s w lucien or went batshit evil. That’ll be interesting”

first of all you dont want Elain’s book BECAUSE its not a gwynriel book. Which also means its Elain and her Li Azriel’s book. Which also means Elriel sexy time included. Which also means rejecting her mating bond.

THATS WHY YOU DONT WANT ELAIN’S BOOK

Because deep down you know Elain would not only in her garden for 900 pages. Sjm will write Elain the same way she wrote her other female main characters. EMPOWERMENT.

Because at the end of the day, a woman like Elain could also be significant, impactful and empowering.

Noticed that antis always insults Elain with her gardening hobbies but not with her seer abilities.

They never bother to care for the fact she’s a seer. Only the fact she likes gardening. Because god forbid if they acknowledge that Elain’s a seer, it could also accidentally admitting that she might be interesting after all.

It’s easier saying “gardening is boring” rather than “being a seer is boring”. These 2 traits exclusively relate to Elain in the series but antis only drag Elain with one.

I WONDER WHY HMMMM….

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The Evolution

How it started:

It's 100% Gwynriel's book

How it's going:

Well, it's Azriel's book. But Gwyn will be the Love Interest

Okay, okay, it's actually Nesta's book, but she'll set up Azriel and Gwyn, and theirs will be the main love story

You know it has to start with an Elucien book. So it's Elain and Lucien falling in love first, and then it's Gwynriel's book after

Listen, I know it's weird, but Elain and Azriel might have a whole relationship first, but then they'll say 'ew' and return to their respective redheads

It's obviously a multi-POV, with many romances

It's a Valkyrie book

Hear me out: Elain dies in childbirth! And Azriel obviously goes after Gwyn

Hear me out: Elain and Azriel are married, but then Azriel's bond snaps with Gwyn, and he obviously leaves Elain

Hear me out: Elain is EVIL! and Gwyn kills her

Azriel kills Evil Elain

Rhys kills Evil Elain

Nesta kills Evil Elain

Okay, but Elain loves flowers and Tamlin is lonely. He deserves a redemption arc. Elain will end up with Tamlin. *what about Lucien? It's obvious that their bond is fake. Duh.

Based on the singing imagery...

It's obviously a retelling of the Little Mermaid. No, no, not the book. The cartoon!

Y'all it's multi POV

How it's going now:

Well actually, anything is fair game now

Meanwhile, Elriels:

2018-present

It's an Elriel book

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One of the most enduring and consistent arguments that the antis use to rebuff any Elriel moment as significant in any way is by saying their favorite: well, Azriel would've done it for anyone!

'he would've saved anyone!'

'he would've protected anyone!'

'he cares about everyone!'

'Elain's not special, Azriel does it for everybody!'

The problem with this argument is of course that he doesn't. He doesn't care about everyone and he doesn't do things for everybody.

Everything that he's done with Elain IS unique. And hence, has been given a lot of page time and explanation.

None of his behaviours with Elain are what he usually does with others, and therefore, we, as readers, are meant to be constantly aware of it. That's why SJM uses the words 'never' to describe his actions or reactions.

'Azriel never have that dagger to anyone'.

'I've never heard a sound so joyful' (when Azriel laughed at the headache powder)

Azriel never acted the way at the table, making everyone wait until Elain arrived.

They talk about it because it's UNIQUE.

Exactly the opposite of him doing it 'with everyone'.

He certainly doesn't sit with anyone else in the garden except for Elain.

He certainly doesn't volunteer to go and rescue anyone from certain death. He didn't lift a finger to save Gwyn or Emerie or Nesta from the Blood Rite. He didn't volunteer to go to Oorid, but had to come along and draw straws. He didn't particularly want to train the priestesses but was asked to do it.

He absolutely does NOT give up his siphon and deliberately weakens himself and his powers in order to get to someone faster.

It's only with Elain that he is dripping blood from his wings but is still cradling her in his arms, though she is perfectly capable of walking, so much so that Rhysand, his High Lord, needs to wrench her out of his hold, so Azriel could get medical attention.

It's only Elain's powers does he understands and actually names. Mind you, he, for example, never named what Nesta's 'power of death' was.

It's only Elain who gets Truth-Teller handed to her, and only to her, directly to her, exclusively to her. It's only Elain who is TRUSTED with TT for that one day, and it's Elain who understands the assignment, uses TT as it was meant to be used and then returns it to Azriel.

It's only Elain's bond that Azriel's scents and suffers from.

It's only Elain's gift that he keeps on his nightstand to look at every night. Not Mor's daggers or towels.

So no.

That's where the antis are very very wrong. Because Azriel, in fact. wouldn't do it for everyone.

The only person he does everything for is Elain.

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No one is saying that merch is the confirmation

But do Antis ever consider that Businesses never give a damn to put their fav red head in their product or articles is because their fav is just not that important and not the main characters of acotar?

Common sense🤷🏼‍♀️

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The hate towards Elain is awfully personal. It had stop being cristicism for her action a long time ago and become more about who she is as a character. They could use back handed compliment in a decorative powerpoint slide but it will never mask that hidden deep and personal hate of her existence in the story. All her contribution and growth often, either being discredited or deem as irrelevant. The need to degrade her and put her dignity through the mud just because a man’s feeling got hurt and for the fact that she’s a THREAT to their ship.

Noticed that antis often have this wishful thinking of Elain to…..

Beg on her knees for Lucien

Be this aggresive jealous person and willing to attack gwyn over Azriel’s affection??

Betray her family for no concrete reasons

Nesta/Azriel/IC will come for Elain for hurting Gwyn

be this hateful person when the canon had describe her to be one of the kindest people

the womb theory. What a great contribution to feminism holy shit.

they know its unlikely for sjm to write these but still, “WoUldNt iT bE fUn iF It dOEs haPPen” 🙄

They never denied those takes being misogynistic either, instead they put it under the “She’s not a real person” or “This will make her more interesting and complex” umbrella. Sure sure

The difference between Mor and Elain is that Elain reciprocate Azriel’s feeling. So, they couldnt stop at “I dont ship Elain and Azriel”. That’s not enough to legitimise gwynriel and to disqualify Elain as Azriel’s ‘love interest’.

To uplift Gwyn, Elain need to be this loser, pathetic and unlikable woman. And often than not, they will put Gwyn in the victim position and Elain as the perpetrator.

Potraying Elain as this Evil and Jealous woman, served their preferred ship’s narrative. They need to counter attack the traits Sjm had wrote for Elain, to deem her as an unworthy lover. At best she can only be Azriel’s ‘hookup material’.

They need this so much in order for their ship to appear superior because atm they know the only way for Azriel to ‘choose’ gwyn is for him to ‘unchoose’ Elain.

Not in a way that elain’s the girl who got away and therefore Az go with gwyn. They need gwyn to be the first choice uncontested. So how can they achieved that??? Aha u guess it…

Loser, pathetic and unlikable Elain. Dismissed after the first hookup no less.

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Azriel found out Elain’s a seer when Lucien was also in the room after that Madja advice got me giggle gaggle like how can yall defend this ship by their mating bond when the bond is so weak ass

Like if e/ucien destined to be endgame then this is the ✨PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT ✨reason or starter for Lucien to be close to Elain. To gain her trust. Elain has no choice but confide to Lucien abt her lucid dreams see if he could help. Search for the queen together, go to the human lands out of the NC, bond with the BOE organically, search for lucien’s mystery parentage, seer + trove + Koschei = lucien is now tied to the main plot, mating ceremony, Have BABIES!!!!! happily ever after😌

BUT NO!!!

He just sat there and let Az do the job🤣🤣🤣

Lucien silently slid into one of the chairs, before the window, that metal eye whirring as it roved over my sister. It made sense, I supposed, that Azriel alone had listened to her. The male who heard things others could not … Perhaps he, too, had suffered as Elain had before he understood what gift he possessed.

Seriously theres no need for Azriel in the mix for the reluctant mate trope to happen.

Azriel ALONE had listened to her. Only Az. Not Azriel and Lucien. Yk throw the mating bond some bone to chew on. Anything to know that yes!! thats why Lucien is meant for Elain. This is it.

Like how can antis fault Elriels to ship Elain and Azriel??? Like how?? Literally why would I ship E/ucien? whats the ooohhhh aaahhh element from this ship other than the fact that theyre mates???

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Imagine self proclaimed as “Pro Elain stan” but unite with a group whom openly hate Elain. Its obvious that they are comfortable seeing Elain getting hate as long as it means their ship get some validation.

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Elriels are alone in this fight but at least we dont lick asses like some people. We dont need the other group or to join force coz for us, the canon are enough.

They need each other’s support to fight elriels but like babes yall dont even like each other😂

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Imagine self proclaimed as “Pro Elain stan” but unite with a group whom openly hate Elain. Its obvious that they are comfortable seeing Elain getting hate as long as it means their ship get some validation.

[bolinhoelriel]

Other thing:

Azriel wanted to return or give away the necklace because it was causing him a lot of emotional pain, stress and discomfort,

which means that he never wants to see that necklace again,

and the fact that he considered giving it to Gwyn or whoever (knowing she could wear it) means that he doesn't want or expect to see Gwyn that much on a daily basis.

I'm not saying it. Azriel is showing it. I'm just reading his actions.

[nicawritesandwhines]

You cooked here, my friend

[elainsgirl]

Reminder,

In ACOFAS, Sjm hinted that Emerie and Nesta were going to become friends.

There are 0 hints that Elain is going to have a friendship with Jurian, Vassa or Eris.

Instead, Mass chose to remind us in acosf that Elain has made two friends by herself. Together they form a female-centric trio. Just like the Valkryies. Just like Amren/Mor and Feyre.

We don’t know much about the twins, just like we didn’t know much about Emerie. The point of Elains book, is to also flesh out Nuala and Cerrideweans’ characters like how acosf fleshed out Emerie and Gwyn. We will learn more about the twins in Elains book because they’ve become important to HER character.

There was no reason for Sjm to make them friends if she was planning on dropping that friendship. She could have stated elain is friendly with the twins but instead made their friendship deeper.

Nuala and Cerr are Elains’ friends. In Elains book, this is the friendship we will explore.

Its rlly not hard to comprehend the idea that we will learn and know more about the twins in Elains book. This refusal to accept that idea is telling how eluciens have never prioritised Elain and the relationships she has made. They only care about fitting her into Luciens life.

Anyways, no matter how much they deny it and downplay Elains friendship with the twins, its meaningless because Mass herself made that friendship canon and relevant. And the twins’ fit into Sjms’ pattern of 3-women trios whilst the elucien-version of Elains friends don’t. And we all know how much Mass loves her patterns 🤭