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[elvis2130]

[rowlfthedog]

[animal-emancipation]

Animals don't exist for us to use. That's it. When utalitarians, plant-based and welfarists, will see that there's only one true definition of veganism?

The movement is not about "reduction of suffering." The term "vegan," as we know it now,' was hijacked by humans who see animals as profit. Moral supremacy, personal gain? You never see anybody say: "Stop beating women, except for Mondays, and you won't be an abuser. It's best to have 5 imperfect men who try to love their wifes than to have no men who aren't trying to stop the abuse. " No human in their right consciousness would ever say that, so why are you claiming that reduction of suffering will bring emancipation of animals closer? It will only teach non-vegans the same principles of suffering that they already know. They already see animals as slaves for their own gain and promoting them becoming more morally supreme if they would try being "vegetarian" or "vegan" (veganism is not a diet, so it would be more right to say plant-based) hijacks the actual principle that veganism is about animal emancipation and end of animal use, end of humans seeing non-humans as their property, stripping away from the idea that those individuals exist for sole purpose of being used by humans in any way.

"Veganism is the rejection of the wrong principle that animals are resources for human purpose. Not a diet. Not a lifestyle. A line. Cross drew it in 1951. It hasn't moved."

"END the USE of ANIMALS" — Leslie Cross, 1951, "Veganism Defined"

So, quit sugarcoating veganism to be more digestible. Hold others accountable for supporting the enslavement of non-human animals.

[wolveria]

Most vegans and vegetarians are fine in my book. The only ones I dislike are the ones who try and force their beliefs down others throats. All that does is make other vegans look bad.

Vegans are no more aggressive than anyone else who takes an ethical stance for something. I’m not sure why they need to be quiet and unnoticeable in order to be palatable.

[acti-veg]

“The only ones I dislike are the ones who actually stand up for victims of oppression because that makes me feel sad while I eat my cheeseburger.”

[zyei]

"the only social justice movement i support is the one that doesn't push back against the violence i choose to engage in for my own selfish pleasure." wow, so brave.

[barbievspredator]

Examples of how I (and other vegan people I know) forced veganism onto people, according to carnists:

Ordered a vegan dish at the restaurant

Said "I'm vegan"

Cooked and served a vegan meal IN MY OWN HOUSE

Posted a vegan dish in the culinary group on Facebook

Didn't giggle and agree with the unhinged tangend about the stupidity of vegans

Ordered coffee with oat milk

Used vegan skincare

Don't look weak and sickly

Didn't agree with some carnist that taking medication makes me not vegan

Cooked vegan food for homeless people

Refused non vegan food

And there's probably a shitton of other examples I can't remember now. It's not even like, actual activism and advocacy here, or any discussions that turned ugly.

[astropeony]

As someone who has been on both sides, I can say that no SINGLE FREAKY vegan is as pushy about veganism as meat-eating regulars are about meat

The only way vegans can "promote" their diet is by pointing out that non-vegan products involve unnecessary and inhumane methods of animal slaughter(which is just fact lol)

While meat-eaters consider it their duty (almost to their homeland🤦‍♀️) to post photos of murdered animals (sometimes not even for food, but just as a cruelty to animals, including from farms) and how great it is to eat slaughtered animals, and in real life start to brainwash vegans for the fact that «killing is a part of life™»

Those who are most vocal about "imposing" are usually the ones who are trying to impose their own opinions on everyone around them

[eggman86]

Reminder that veganism is not a diet and calling non vegans "meat eaters" or "carnists" only helps to push the idea that it is.

Veganism is the principle that humans should live without using or exploiting other animals.

Thats for food, clothing, entertainment, cosmetics, etc.

[thatveganwhiterose]

I’m going to be an annoying fucking intersectional leftist vegan until the day I die

Because I get to piss off BOTH groups: “Leftist intersectional” anti-vegans AND people who hate intersectionality, leftism, and human rights (regardless if they are vegan or not; usually they aren’t).

The best part is I’ve been doing this before tumblr existed and will be doing this if and when it actually dies.

Both of these groups can die mad lol

Also yes I am primarily vegan because I love animals and actually consider them as living creatures and this pisses off these people the most.

I hope my living up to my morals as best as I possibly can ruins someone’s day because it’s so fucking funny that existence can do this.

[trying-trying2lyk]

i love writing out numbers and then putting them in parentheses like "one (1)" even when i dont need to i think its funny

[damselindysphoria]

“you can’t be vegan you need b12!!!!”

my b12 fortified beloved:

[ltwilliammowett]

1. Ketch- a vessel with two masts, the front main mast and the aft mizzen mast, which is getting smaller and smaller. The ketch has its mizzen mast within the (construction) waterline.

2. Schooner- a schooner is a sailing ship which has two or more masts, has scraper sails as main sails on all masts and whose foremost mast is lower than (one) the aft mast(s).

3. Topsail schooner - This term describes the rigging of the ship, not the type of ship. It is a two- or three-masted sailing vessel rigged primarily with fore-and-aft sails (gaff mainsail and staysails) but featuring one or more square topsails on the foremast.

4. Brigantine - a brigantine is a two-masted sailing vessel with a fully square-rigged foremast and at least two sails on the main mast: a square topsail and a gaff sail mainsail (behind the mast). The main mast is the second and taller of the two masts.

5. Brig- A brig is a type of sailing vessel defined by its rig: two masts which are both square-rigged. Brigs originated in the second half of the 18th century and were a common type of smaller merchant vessel or warship from then until the latter part of the 19th century.

6. Barkentine - while a full-rigged ship is square-rigged on all three masts, and the barque is square-rigged except for the mizzen-mast, the barquentine extends the principle by making only the foremast square-rigged.

7. Bark - a barque, barc, or bark is a type of sailing vessel with three or more masts of which the fore mast, mainmast, and any additional masts are rigged square, and only the aftmost mast (mizzen in three-masted barques) is rigged fore and aft. Sometimes, the mizzen is only partly fore-and-aft rigged, bearing a square-rigged sail above.

8. Full rigged ship - a full-rigged ship or fully rigged ship is a sailing vessel with a sail plan of three or more masts, all of them square-rigged. Such a vessel is said to have a ship rig or be ship-rigged, with each mast stepped in three segments: lower, top, and topgallant.

9. Ewer - classic fishing and transport vessel of the Lower Elbe with flat bottom and side swords. It is rigged as single mast as well as one and a half mast.

10. Galeass- mostly a two-masted coastal sailer, ketch rigged, especially common in the Baltic Sea. Length rarely over 20 meters.

11. Tjalk - old East Frisian-Dutch coastal vessels with flat bottom, side swords and round ship ends. Rigging as one or one and a half master. Still common in the Netherlands.

12. Cutter - is a single-masted rig with two or more foresails – typically a jib and a staysail

[natnormalatall]

roald dahl was antisemitic. george orwell was openly homophobic. edgar allan poe married his 13 year old cousin. dr seuss cheated on his wife. hp lovecraft was racist as fuck. anyways they’re fucking dead it’s not like you’re enabling their behaviors in the afterlife or something. then again I think orwell’s homophobia bleeds into one of his books so uh keep an eye out for that

the difference between these old white guys and jk rowling is that the former group is all dead. jk rowling is alive and using your money to oppress trans people

[strange-fairy]

roald dahl was also racist. seuss was ALSO also racist. and these people are dead and we aren’t supporting them by consuming their work but their CHILDRENS BOOKS reflect this. so consume consciously and don’t give racist books to kids and not read it critically with them (and if you don’t it better be bc you know they’ll be able to do it on their own)

[wontshaveforu]

billie eilish says you can’t love animals and eat meat at the same time (and she’s right) and there are thousands of comments sayin she’s rich and she can’t tell people what to do and ohh it’s so easy for her. yeah it can be easier for her but when it’s a black poor vegan saying they are vegan bc they care about something bigger than them you also don’t listen. you don’t care. you just create excuses because you wanna keep harming and killing animals for your own good. instead of hating on billie you should look in the mirror.

[pomegranateuser]

in light of billie eilish’s “hot take” about veganism, I’d just like to say I am so sick and tired of non-indigenous people using our communities and practices as an excuse, to hide behind their own shame when really they don’t give a shit about indigenous peoples. they don’t talk about us in any other aspect besides this one and it’s only to cover their own backs. indigenous communities that have to hunt for their own food for survival is very different than going into a supermarket and buying packaged meat. these communities have quotas, they use every part of the animal, and they are responsible for taking care of most of our ecosystem. any good, intersectional vegan knows this and understands that it would be very colonial of them to go into these spaces and try and change that. saying this, there are a lot of indigenous people who are vegans and they are largely ignored because it doesn’t fit their narrative of the “noble savage” which is also a racist view of indigenous people.

[cosmicfandomvegan]

Veganism is all about the victims, NOT US.

Veganism is all about the victims, NOT US.

Veganism is all about the victims, NOT US.

Veganism is all about the victims, NOT US.

Veganism is all about the victims, NOT US.

Veganism is all about the victims, NOT US.

But it affects all of us. Including the planet.

[theirloveisgross]

not me following billie eilish on ig just because she's an annoying vegan and people are being awful to her and she's like 'suck my dick'. big up, billie! the animals need voices like yours. 💚

[withstand-whats-written]

like look I know you don't go around kicking puppies but that's your lifestyle choice, don't go forcing that on me. it's my personal choice to kick as many puppies as I like. nooo don't judge me or criticize me that's so mean :(

[isleypig]

Actually I think forcing an animal to be pregnant every year of their life and subsequently slaughtered just to get their milk is cruelty and not good for them. I actually think that sounds like torture.

[acti-veg]

Won't doxx them but a feather artist popped up on my feed describing how she 'ethically' sources her feathers. From: pheasant hunters, farmers culling native magpies, pigeon racers, chicken farmers, and exotic parrot breeders. She was bragging about these sources? Being ethical?? What?????? I think her logic was that the feathers are a 'biproduct' but like, no one thinks animals are killed exclusively for their feathers? What does she think 'unethically' sourced feathers would be??

This is a good example of how people struggle to conceptualise how exploitation works. A byproduct that someone is charging money for becomes a supplementary product, it is not the primary reason for an animal's exploitation or slaughter, but helps make that act a profitable enterprise.

It is a bit like buying scrap cloth from a sweatshop. Sure, it'd go to waste otherwise, but you're giving money to the people who are exploiting workers, so you're helping them to turn a profit regardless of what that profit is primarily derived from. In many cases, animal exploitation industries would not be able to function without these byproducts. The hide of cows and the flesh of sheep, for example, are a big chunk of the profits made by the farmers who exploit and kill those animals.

If they were getting these feathers for free, or as discarded feathers from wild or pet birds it would be a different question. But anytime you are paying for an animal product, whether it is the primary product or not, you are directly funding animal exploitation.

[bread-and-roses-too]

Not feminist as in "women should be included in the draft" but feminist as in "being drafted is a violation of bodily autonomy for any gender".

The draft should not exist. Drafting people into the military is a violation of human rights. You should not be able to force someone to risk their life. If you can't find enough people who care about a conflict to keep it going then it simply shouldn't keep going. You can't even force someone to donate a kidney using government power, why the fuck can you force them to donate their whole body and life to a cause they don't agree with or don't care about?