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Got into a fight with my boyfriend because he thinks feminism is unnecessary and now I’m sleeping alone and crying lol yay
maybe you could just agree to disagree?
if you think feminism is worth this then you are really treating it as a religion
I’m glad he dumped you, OP. This lucky bastard just dodged a bullet aru. -Wang Yao
gosh dang patriarchy making me sleep alone over minor disagreeances
And just to amp up the hypocrisy even further, keep in mind that part of the voice acting for a Mortal Kombat game involves envisioning yourself being horrifyingly dismembered and mutilated while letting out agonized screams. At the hands of a potentially male opponent, no less.
here she is in TF2, telling you about the contracts for killing people
I do not believe Ash said that hypocrisy to anyone. I wanna see an article or something. No one who voices so many violent and murderous female characters in games would say that games reinforce violence in men.
See the YouTube url in the image? It’s there for a reason.
I tried to enter it in the address bar before and got a 404 page. Mind lending a hand, please?
the actual video got thumbed down into oblivion and filled with comments ripping the data apart so they deleted it, that’s the broken link, I remember when it was uploaded last year but the sneak peak preview video is still up
here’s an article that was made in response to it tho
and here’s a twitter post
and Reddit about it
Well, first, voice-acting in violent video games doesn’t mean you enjoy them. It’s a job. But that’s besides the point.
Don’t you think it’s possible to both enjoy violent video games, but ALSO recognize that they reinforce stereotypes? Not everything has to be “good media” or “bad media”. It’s not hypocrisy, it’s being critical of the media you enjoy, and not just consuming media without thinking about its concepts and themes.
Unless the next sentence out of her mouth was “therefore, we should ban all violent video games” I don’t think there’s any contradiction.
The whole premise of the video was the shit Jack Thompson was spouting years ago and was wrong about then. They’re spouting off all the same “The vidya gaems turn the dumb hyper-impressionable gamer kids into psychotic, unfeeling murderers!” shit that Jacko and Joe Lieberman and Tipper Gore and Jonathan McIntosh and others like them have all spouted every ten years or so and always been proven wrong about. We’re basically watching history repeat itself in real-time. So yeah, sorry for not agreeing that we should all be sitting around going “I’d like to fully enjoy this, but I must think about what reactionary media watchdogs who hate video games THINK it’s doing to my brain and thus criticize and scrutinize its every aspect. After all, this could be the next big civilization destroyer if we aren’t careful, just like South Park, Elvis and comic books before it!”
Also, Ashly Burch is a hypocrite for profiting off of AND HELPING TO CREATE–since her own videos tend to be very violent, usually focused on very violent games, and at times gruesome–the very thing she claims to be against. Not to mention she talks about kids with shitty lives using games as an escape/coping mechanism as though this is a bad thing. And really, if she disliked the games she’s done voices in as much as she pretends to whenever she feels like sucking up to her cuck brother’s waifu Scamkeesian, she could’ve easily, y'know, not accepted the roles. She also voices HERSELF in Saint’s Row 4–she, Anthony and their father are available as DLC characters for that game. So yeah, again, so much for her actually disliking violent games and only working on them cause she needs the money, since she endorsed this one so hard that she became a goddamn character in it.
And that’s before getting into the fact that her best-known role is Tiny Tina. Yeah, the insane child from Memelands 2 who loves killing people and blowing shit up. The character who SJWs threw a fit and accused Anthony of racism over because she tends to speak in ebonics. That Tiny Tina.
Oh, and it also doesn’t help that they’re talking as though these games are aimed at kids, yet pretty much every single game they showed is rated M, so basically it’s more pretending the ESRB doesn’t exist and blaming everyone but parents for shitty parenting on top of everything else.
“Well, first, voice-acting in violent video games doesn’t mean you enjoy them. It’s a job. But that’s besides the point.“ I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS BUT I’D GLADLY BE PAID TO PARTICIPATE IN THINGS THAT I DISAPPROVE OF
no, that doesn’t work if your opinions on violence are that important, you wouldn’t take a job in a violent game, if you don’t find a respectable job in voice acting, mcdonalds is always hiring
To be clear also, as some may not know much about the Burch’s, her brother *wrote* Borderlands 2, Tales from the Borderland, and some of The Pre-Sequel. As well as working on Duke Nukem Forever. He also worked on a few other things as a ghost writer, but nobody knows what that is, but considering gearbox’s history it’s likely it was more violent games. He also wrote the parts that he knew his sister would be performing, so the idea that it was “just a job” is a bit of a stretch.
Additionally they both write and perform their own video series titled “Hey Ash, whatcha playin?” which has plenty of violence in it, itself, aswell as sexist and racist humor.
While I can’t speak much to Ashly, Anthony himself is known to spout quite a few misogynstic or racist remarks in the past, and arguably in the presence as of the past few years he seems to be making cases for why “Tokenism isn’t a real problem” and that “Gay characters don’t have to be interesting” amongst a bunch of other bizarre statements. Hypocrisy appears to be what this family thrives on.
They are actively and purposefully creating the content that they are claiming is damaging to not only the medium and surrounding industry, but to the people playing the games. It’s pure unadulterated insanity.
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If you replaced “football” with “video games” you’d have Anita and every other RadFem in the gaming industry in a nutshell.
“Got an extra controller? That’s right, a woman wants to play video games! How about that?”
"Well, that’s super duper, Anita. In fact, we already got four girls playing online right now.”
“You do?”
“Uh huh. But we’d love to have you on board.”
“Well, I’m not really a fan of video games…After all, what civilized person would play games with such violence against women?!”
“Well actually, Anita, the violence is only committed against fictional women and men.”
“Yeah, and studies show that video game violence has little to no impact on the way we treat people in the real world.”
“Stop oppressing me!”
OMG that’s awesome.
Perfect
I’m not normally one to support the more persistent movements of social acceptance, but it’d be ridiculous to not acknowledge this as being rude.
The guy running this Twitter was most likely well aware he was going to stir up trouble for making a joke of something that some people take very seriously, and still went ahead with it. I don’t personally understand why some people have confusion expressing their gender, but the thing about that is that I don’t have to. It’s not my business. It’s a personal problem that shouldn’t be made into a joke.
Not trying to come off as the stereotypical SJW Tumblr user for pointing this out. I figured I’d give my thoughts on the matter and explain to those who might not understand why this could be considered a big deal, since I have a few friends who are transgender.
Anything can be a joke, when you start saying X and Y thing can’t be a joke then you start a huge slippery slope.
Nevermind the fact that this was a joke about otherkin, as Hedgehog and Attack Helicopter are not genders. This is tumblr and the regular social justice crowd twisting and contorting something yet again.
And you just took the bait, my friend.
My thoughts and prayers are with Kesha. To go through all the trauma and have the strength to stand up to your abuser and say ‘never again’ is incredibly impressive, and the judge and lawyers who implied she was lying are scum.
“Implied she was lying”? There’s no proof of it, you fucking lunatic.
The way the judicial system in the united states works is that you are innocent until proven guilty. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that Dr.Luke acted in any way that Kesha claimed. No phone call records, no emails, no text messages. Nothing. Not a single thing.
Ontop of that, Luke invested millions of dollars into her career, and agreed to allow her to record without any involvement of his. So you tell me, why a judge, or anyone even slightly cognisant of law, would look at this situation and say “No, Kesha should be “freed” of the contract she agreed to”?
Grow up, jesus.
Thank you for your extreme overreaction for my statement of solidarity with a fellow trauma victim.
Yes, the American justice system claims you are innocent until proven guilty, except when you are a victim of sexual violence, in which case you are a liar until you can prove otherwise.
Also did you expect Dr. Luke to take a selfie while he was raping her? Was Kesha supposed to hide a camera on her forehead to take a picture while she was drugged and raped?
To expect hard evidence in rape cases is in most cases to expect too much. Can you imagine how traumatic it must be after your body has been invaded to admit to yourself within a few hours what has really happened (when it often takes much much longer to come to terms with it) and go to a hospital to have rape kit samples taken? To have someone staring at and poking around where your body was just invaded and violated is too much for many survivors for very understandable reasons.
The judge said that the company’s money was more important than her emotional well being and that is disgusting. If you think otherwise you need to ‘grow up.’
In what way is it an “extreme “over-reaction”? You are contributing to a culture that professes guilty until proven innocence, in regards to rape. You’re given a situation wherein two people are making opposing claims (Ie, rapist and not rapist) and you, along with many other people on this website, make the immediate judgement that the man is a rapist, and label him as such, despite none of Kesha’s other claims (physical and mental abuse, harassment, etc) holding any water or having any evidence what-so-ever.
It’s not a lack of “hard evidence” it’s a lack of any evidence. Again, no mean texts, no phone calls, no emails, no witnesses, nothing. No evidence of any inappropriate conduct from Dr.Luke at all, anywhere. Yet you, and others, immediately make the judgement that the man is a rapist and that Kesha is being trapped in a contract with a man who raped and abused her, and that there is some sort of conspiracy to keep her suffering, despite again, there being no evidence that anything took place, and Luke himself stating he would disassociate himself with any of her further productions.
Again. I want you to look at the situation and explain to me why a judge would say that Kesha should be let out of the contract she agreed to, when multiple parties involved have invested millions of dollars into her and her music?
Also, you show at best a complete misunderstanding of law, and at worst an intentional blatant disregard for it. Kesha is not a “liar until proven otherwise” she’s an alleged victim, Luke is the accused which means he has to be proven guilty. This is how every. single. crime. operates.
Yet for some reason people here on tumblr, and you, based on your words, think that rape should be the opposite of how every other matter of law works. They think that he should be considered guilty, until proven innocent. This is the most assbackwards ridiculous fucking sentiment that I’ve ever heard and it is completely asinine.
It’s not an over-reaction to be completely disgusted by yet another pitchfork wielding hate mob painting a man as a rapist based purely on the word of one person, whom kept it a secret until they wanted to leave their contract. It’s absurd.
can we talk about trans!luke on his period? - han helping him through any dysphoric moments by reminding him that lots of boys have periods and that it doesnt make him any less manly - han basically being luke’s personal hot water botter and rubbing his stomach when luke gets bad cramps - just imagine han helping his cute trans boyfriend get through the worst time of the month
that’s it, your mother and i are taking away your posting priveleges
Wow, way to trigger dysphoria in trans boys, OP. You do know that’s what you often do when you say shit like “boys with periods” or “boys with vaginas” and stuff, right? Hell, before y’all started this bullshit, I could look down at the ground or something with no problemo but now I can see my belly in the process and all I can think of is “people with uteri” and the damn thing is taunting me now to the point where I literally want to cry and/or commit seppuku in the hopes of getting it out even at the cost of everything else.
So yeah, thanks for making shit worse for us, you fucking assholes.
I’m gonna just start tagging you in every instance of transtrending nonsense I see crawl across my dash, @opposition-research - here we see the gross over fetishization of trans individuals and our issues. This is a major part of transtrending because it’s the precursor to “appropriation” - this kind of thing turns trans people and trans issues into a game and invites the readers to play along, despite their severe lack of understanding in regards to what it actually means to be trans and how this kind of thing turns us and our lives and our issues into toys and jokes.
@thesocialjusticecourier Let’s… back up a moment.
The definition of transtrender I was working from, the one I, perhaps foolishly, presumed to be your definition, involves a person who is not trans appropriating the identity markers of transness for some kind of social status. The classic example I tend to see is people who identify under atypical gender identities and who use pronouns derived from nouns.
So what I was expecting was something to point to and go, for example, here’s where this person says they’re not trans, and here’s where they appropriate the trappings of transness for funsies, stuff like that.
Bearing in mind, I don’t think you have the right nor the authority to dissect the identities of strangers and determine if they’re good Christians or witches. But you think you do, and I don’t have the power to stop you.
But I see none of that. The trans man depicted (this being the trans variant of Luke Skywalker, apparently) is apparently a binary trans man who experiences dysphoria. The word dysphoria is right in the post, and I don’t know how the OP identifies, but they (he?) wished for someone like Han in the tags of the post, so, my interpretation is that you’ve sent me a trans man who experiences dysphoria making a little fluffy headcanon about characters he enjoys based on what he would want for support by a lover. But I don’t know that for sure, I’m just interpreting what you’ve given me. There are countless ways this could be something completely different.
At any rate, I’m not interested in getting into the alleged fetishization of trans folk by this post, at least not yet, because as far as I can tell, it doesn’t demonstrate how anyone involved is a transtrender, by any definition. At best, you’re telling me that this is the kind of thing transtrenders do, so clearly, the post is the work of a transtrender and not a real trans person. Is that what you’re saying? Because that’s the most coherent argument I can pull from your post.
I’m not saying the post is objectively irrelevant. I’m saying that under the definitions I’m working from, it appears irrelevant. If it’s pertinent to your definitions, you’ll have to tell me how, because I can’t read your mind.
How do you define ‘transtrender’? Is OP a transtrender, by your definition? How do you know that? Can you somehow determine that from this post, or have you found this out through other means? If by other means, what are those means?
I’m not dismissing your argument — I’m saying what you’re making isn’t an argument, as far as I can see. Or at least, if it is an argument, we’re working from a wildly divergent set of definitions that is quite frankly incomprehensible to me.
Give me something as coherent as the arguments you were making in messages. You were quoting the DSM-V at me, you can at least do me the courtesy of quoting the parts of the post you find problematic. You have my ear; I’m listening. But there’s nothing to address here. It’s just a bunch of accusations.
Transtrender: Any person claiming a gender identity that exists outside of a natural gender binary: male, female, bigender or agender. Predominantly those who claim otherkin identities make them trans (they don’t), or those who claim that gender is a malleable choice that can change on a whim or those who claim you can be transgender without experiencing dysphoria. Transtrending also encompasses things such as trans fetishization (outrageous trans headcanons that mock trans identities are part of fetishization and can lead to appropriation).
Dysphoria: Any urge to question or step outside of your gender identity that is powerful enough to effect your daily life: wearing a skirt one time doesn’t equate to dysphoria - but a consistent desire to be something outside of your designated gender I would argue is classifiable as dysphoria. The urge to do this varies from person to person, as do the symptoms of these urges. Some people experience very powerful dysphoria and this can lead to questioning self-worth, self-esteem problems and even lead to self-deprecating actions such as alcoholic or drug related addictions, self-harm and even suicide. Others experience mild to light dysphoria that is triggered by specific things rather than a constant feeling of inadequacy or displacement.
Trans people with dysphoria can perpetuate transtrending ideas and concepts just as easily as those who believe you can be trans without experiencing dysphoria. Trans individuals who coddle transtrenders are as detrimental to our health and safety as the transtrenders themselves. It is unhealthy to push this idea that gender is a social construct and not tied to biology as well as society. This is the heart of transtrending - and the above is one of the ways that ideology is pushed. A classicly perceived cis character forced into a trans role and branded as “headcanon” pushes the idea that cis can be “fixed” by being made trans and that trans is a “solution” to the cisgender problem. It’s a perpetuation of cisphobia and it’s rampant on this website and the main cause of transtrending.
No one wants to be cis, because cis is seen as bad and wrong. So they must make themselves trans. This is a cog in that machine.
@thesocialjusticecourier …Well, this explains a lot.
So you’re saying that no genders other than male and female, in some combination, exist? Are we… really going to go down this path?
Are you really going to force colonialist interpretations of gender on fa’afafine, hijra, kathoey, and other genders older than the rigid bifurcation of humanity you’re working from? Bearing in mind, I’m not asking whether you believe they exist. I’m asking whether you accept their interpretation of their own gender, as opposed to your contradictory interpretation of it.
Are you really going to define gender in terms of a biological dichotomy that necessarily pathologizes intersex people? The one that posits only two sexes are possible and everything outside it is an aberration?
Are you really suggesting that we accept the TERF party line that it’s useful to base social classes on what’s in your pants? I’m incredibly surprised by this one. You want to talk about people causing harm to their own, you just invited Cathy fucking Brennan into your living room. Where did you come up with this argument, The Transsexual Empire?
How many people are you willing to throw off the ship in order to become pure?
And don’t say zero, because I’ll laugh you right off this thread. So far the list includes intersex people and those you label transtrenders. That’s not up for interpretation. You just believe it’s justifiable, like some in-the-wilderness you can’t handle the truth schtick.
But let’s… try a thought experiment.
You really don’t have the ability to look into my head and interpret what I’m thinking and feeling, but let’s pretend that you do.
Being genderfluid (not one of your approved genders, I know), my state of being is in relatively constant flux. This is how much it’s in flux: during periods where I feel feminine, my sense of my own body physically changes. I interpret my own face in the mirror as being more feminine. I interpret my body shape as being more feminine. When I was thinner, I actually experienced a mild form of dysphoria over having a flat chest, though I no longer do. When I feel masculine, I interpret my own face as being more masculine. I interpret my body shape as being more masculine.
Please note that this has nothing to do with gender roles or whatever other dodge has rotated into the meta. This is my relationship to my own body. The bedrock principle on which you build the concept of dysphoria.
I also experience… let’s call them surges of gender. It’s a silly name, but it’s evocative, and that’s what I’m going for. Usually, these surges are towards the feminine. Sometimes, rarely, they’re towards the masculine. These surges may be subtle or very strong.
One day a few years ago, I was doing the dishes, and minding my own business. And my mind wandered, and something triggered a surge extremely heavily towards the feminine, so much so that whatever controls this sensation actually panicked, overcompensated, and sent me towards the masculine again.
And then something really strange happened: I was sent in a third direction.
I spent the next five minutes with a very confusing mental state in which I felt, with the same conviction of experiencing femininity or masculinity, like another gender. If I’m being honest, I felt alien, not only like my body was wrong, but that no possible human configuration of my body was correct, and yet something else would be. Dysphoria for an alien body, I suppose, is how I’d explain it. This explanation is muddy, vague, ambiguous, and probably incomprehensible, as if trying to explain my base experience wasn’t already, but this is how I experienced it, and this is how I understand myself, so, this is my honest interpretation of events.
Bear in mind, I’d felt the femininity and masculinity ‘surges’ before. I knew what they were, and I knew what they felt like, and they result in the aforementioned shifts in my sense of body. This was distinct from both of those states, and not some surge towards being agender, either, because I’ve felt that, too. This was, as far as I can explain it, a surge towards a third, distinct gender, as separate from manhood and womanhood as they are from each other.
So how do you interpret that? How do you interpret what happens to me at the level of awareness of my own body? Am I transtrending only some of the time? Is my fluid gender only valid when it happens to align with one of the binary genders? Do you think I’m lying or mistaken about an experience you have no possible way of verifying?
And for that matter, how do you interpret gender fluidity in terms of your list of acceptable genders? If I happen to feel like a girl, am I a girl for all intents and purposes? Are my other identities erased until they are brought back to the fore, like gender doublethink? Am I supposed to operate under the same logic handed down to bisexual and pansexual people when people say our sexuality is defined in terms of the gender of the person we’re in a relationship with? Like my gender is understandable as being male and female and both and neither in unpredictable combinations and that experience is not fundamentally different from being only male or only female?
Nobody calls Guernica a monochrome painting and then leaves it at that, not even when discussing the raw mechanics of the work. It’s the context of one colour next to another in specific spatial locations on the canvas that produces its meaning.
And you can debate that all you want, you can deny the forces of social construction, but take the universe and grind it down the finest powder and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of femininity, one molecule of masculinity.
And yet you act as if there is some ideal order in the world, as if there is some… some rightness in the universe by which it may be judged.
Now, about ‘trans fetishization’.
I… have no idea what you’re talking about.
I’m not saying that what you said isn’t understandable. The words are in a grammatically correct order and together they convey its meaning.
I’m saying your position is not in contact with any reality I am aware of.
Nobody’s forcing the poor innocent fictional character to be trans. The trans reading of a character most people read as cis doesn’t erase that other reading. The OP interprets Luke Skywalker as trans, which is a possible interpretation based on the literal text of the Star Wars movies.
Look, let me back up a bit.
I think it might be useful to sidebar about interpretation here, because I think we’re working off fundamentally different concepts about what it is.
When someone interprets a text in a certain way, they are saying, this is a possible way to read it. There’s the intended reading by the author, and then there’s what the audience reads, and this doesn’t have to be the same thing.
Death of the Author posits that these interpretations are both equally valid. I think if you wanted to argue against that, you’d have to argue against the existence of headcanons, fanfiction, and pretty much the entire concept of fandom since Don Quixote, and I don’t think you’re prepared to do that.
Now, let’s talk about transness.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that you’re aware of the fact that it’s not always possible to interpret someone’s correct gender by their dress or appearance. You posted the entire conversation we had, so I feel pretty safe to point out that you yourself mentioned that you had a full beard when you spoke to me, and it was ‘merely annoying’ — but the point is, presence or absence of a beard doesn’t make your gender any less valid. You are how you identify regardless of how you appear. I certainly wouldn’t argue any different. I’d avoid saying or doing anything to you I knew would make you feel like shit about your beard or any other part of you, and I’d defend your identity to anyone who dared to challenge it.
That goes with the territory of being a decent human being in my book. It’s not something special or earned or revokable. I don’t care if you’re an abusive, violent, murderous asshole. I don’t care if you’re mr-cappadocia, ihatecispeople, David Koch, Bernie Sanders, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Karl Rove, Cathy Brennan, Steven Harper, Chelsea Manning. You get to identify how you want, with all that entails. That’s a human right.
Even if I could come down on you for any number of other things, that one’s off the table. The ends of hurting someone for what they’ve done never justify the means of allowing myself, even in the most extreme circumstances, to deny someone their own identity, because there’s always a way to argue extreme circumstances, and maybe my identity’s next. Or yours.
It’s possible, depending on factors of safety and personal aesthetic, that you might, to use a problematic term, pass as male sometimes. That people interpret you as being a cis man even though this is not correct. Whether you actually do or not is immaterial for this discussion — if necessary, we can say that I pass as male sometimes, or that it is possible for trans women to pass as male sometimes.
It’s possible in the other direction, as well, when someone passes as their intended gender and they are believed to be cis men when they are trans, and cis women when they are trans. I’m not saying anything new here, I’m sure.
The intersection of all this, however, is that in the absence of the text explicitly denoting the cisgender or transgender status of a character, that character is always interpretable as trans.
In the exact same way that a trans man can pass as a cis man, it is possible to interpret that a character is doing the same. This is what the OP is doing.
Did you notice what I did, though?
I used the exact same line in the OP about trans!Luke and periods, modified for you and beards. I played the Han to your Luke, only without the implication that we’re dating, because, unless you’re one of my people and haven’t told me, we’re not.
Was it okay to say that to you, and not okay to say that about a fictional character?
Would it have been okay if the OP said this not as a headcanon about Luke Skywalker, but as a hypothetical about their own desires as a trans man for the support they’d like? ‘I wish I had a boyfriend who…’
Would it have been okay if the headcanon was made about a trans man and another man in a canon relationship?
Would it have been okay if the headcanon was made about trans!Luke and Han Solo if they weren’t boyfriends, or in the context of a romantic or sexual relationship?
What is so harmful in letting a dysphoric trans man comfort theirself with a fluffy headcanon about god damn space boyfriends that he is now on trial for crimes against transness?
I mean, look at what you’re saying about the post: “This is a major part of transtrending because it’s the precursor to ‘appropriation’”. Your literal actual argument is that this post is somehow bad because of some future hypothetical issue down a slippery slope.
Meanwhile, you’re harming an actual dysphoric trans man, right now. You’re telling him that his methods of coping with dysphoria are wrong and bad on the basis that you believe they might, down the line, cause someone to “appropriate” transness. You’re putting him under extreme scrutiny for daring to call Luke Skywalker trans, in the absence of any other wrongdoing.
Have you noticed that your arguments boil down in many cases to blaming someone for the sins of other people?
The doctors and HMOs denying care to trans people, according to you they’re using the correct arguments, because they’re your arguments. Yep. It’s perfectly valid to treat all trans people like medical tourists because of the mistaken belief of others that they require transition. The mass generalization of all trans folk who seek care into a single collective pass/fail for treatment is perfectly okay, and you’re 100% on board with that, but you have a problem: Transtrenders exist, sullying the good name of those true trans people and stopping those doctors from signing off on the paperwork. So to make the generalization real, your plan is to eradicate anyone who dares conceptualize transness in a different way, require crippling, unmistakeable dysphoria to be allowed the label of trans, and then the medical establishment is bound to generalize all trans folk in more beneficial ways, because that’s been their record with marginalized groups.
The people making up headcanons, they’re providing an environment in which other people might think it’s not a death sentence to be trans. Oh my god. Call Fringe Division. This person has somehow caused people they have never met to do something wrong. I bet Walter Bishop theorized a way to alter the gender self-concept of others through neuro-linguistic programming. DON’T LOOK AT THE FLUFFY HEADCANON. IT’S A LEVEL 3 COGNITOHAZARD.
And don’t come at me about how inflammatory I’m being, or about the tactics I’m using, or the attitude I have. You’re literally telling a trans man that he’s fetishizing himself, and then coming down on him for hypothetical future problems, and zero of those words are certain or factual. Problems, I add, that even with the call to action I have not yet seen evidence of.
Your tactics are from the fucking Inquisition, with eminently predictable results, and about as much accuracy.
I used to see people call out trans folk for faking all the time. What happened to that? I was honestly expecting a list of blogs by now, people who identify under tumblr genders and who use nounself pronouns, stuff like that. Did you all realize that you’re being, well, ridiculous, and that it’s impossible to see what’s in someone’s head and their heart, and that maybe, just maybe, you feel bad about all the people who are trans by your own definition that you put on the rack in pursuit of the impure?
Or did I just manage to lose sight of the dungeon?
You’re being ignored. Just figured I’d let you know. And it has literally nothing to do with your post, I barely skimmed it - it’s the fucking size. I have a fucking life off tumblr. I’m not going to sit here and read a small book. Condense whatever your point was down to like… five paragraphs or less and I’ll take a gander - otherwise I’m just not interested in your 8 page thesis. How long did it even take you to write this? Why would you write a post this long? Really? What do you get out of this?
@thesocialjusticecourier I produce as long a post as is necessary to address what has been given to me. My reply was 2,400 words. That’s barely a chapter in a fanfic. And if the length of that post is objectionable, then it has everything to do with the post.
I’m not interested in pithy phrases, jargon, sloppy argumentative structure, any of that. What I’m interested in is rigid, analytical debate. I want my work to be citeable. I want it to go from unimpeachable facts that you accept as valid to my own conclusions in an unbroken chain of logic with no leaps or assumptions in between. This takes time and column inches.
It took me something like three hours to write this. In that time I counter-analyzed my own argument, and cross-referenced it with yours to make sure I was addressing what you actually said. I debated with myself over the specific tactics I was using, what response those tactics might result in, whether those tactics aligned with my moral beliefs, and whether those responses would be beneficial for my position.
In short, I did my due diligence. Which is, to be perfectly honest, far more than anyone who has addressed me about this topic.
If you want to build a case for the eradication of whole identities, which is what you are doing, it takes more than your lunch break to do it. Put in the work or stop acting like you have all the answers.
There’s your five paragraphs.
Well, seeing as you have done your due diligence in responding and spent three hours on your above incredibly long post, I suppose that it deserves at least a somewhat diligent response. I can’t promise to take three hours in my posting (as I actually don’t think it will take me that long to put my thoughts into writing), but I can promise to at least try and address the majority (if not all) of your claims and to hopefully provide some clarification as to why exactly I believe that you are fundamentally mistaken in many of your arguments against @thesocialjusticecourier. So, without further ado, allow me to add a read more here and let’s get to work shall we?
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This was flawless. I typically don’t take the time to read responses of this length, especially when the person in question has shown no desire to see another point of view or opens with an aggressive manner but this… this was gorgeous and amazing. @thenuanceddebater you explained this in a way that I just couldn’t, and I thank you for it - from my four point gender/sexuality theory to the way that trans fetishization works and how it arrives to that point in the social media “pseudo-society” for lack of a better word. XD
Thank you so much for this, truly. Your arguments are always such a joy to read, even when they contradict/oppose my own I find them enjoyable because you conduct them all so patiently and pristinely. On that note though, I have to say everything you’ve said here is on the dot for me, I disagree with none of your points whatsoever. It was all perfect, thank you so much for this again.
This website is fucking dumb.
this whole thing with Kesha is really pissing me off. like, it’s evident that Dr. Luke and Sony are in cahoots with one another trying to fuck up her career. i believe that Kesha won’t go down without a good fight. SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO BE HAPPY AND FEEL SAFE in any environment she goes into. #FreedomForKesha
You’re right you figured it out, Luke, who invested $60 million dollars in her career and agreed to not be involved with her music anymore, and Sony, who invested over $250 million in her career and produced all of her music videos, manufactured and distributed all of her albums, promoted her, etc don’t want her to succeed. They’ve conspired together to throw away a quarter of a billion dollars so that someone is upset.
Fuck, I had no idea sherlock holmes himself had taken up residence here on tumblr dot com. I always thought he was a disney fan too, I knew it!
YOU DONT GET TO DECIDE IF SOMEONE WAS RAPED OR NOT
Great while we’re at it, lets make it law that a judge can’t decide if someone was assaulted or not and I can get all these dumb fucking kesha fans thrown in jail for punching my nipples off.
My thoughts and prayers are with Kesha. To go through all the trauma and have the strength to stand up to your abuser and say ‘never again’ is incredibly impressive, and the judge and lawyers who implied she was lying are scum.
“Implied she was lying”? There’s no proof of it, you fucking lunatic.
The way the judicial system in the united states works is that you are innocent until proven guilty. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that Dr.Luke acted in any way that Kesha claimed. No phone call records, no emails, no text messages. Nothing. Not a single thing.
Ontop of that, Luke invested millions of dollars into her career, and agreed to allow her to record without any involvement of his. So you tell me, why a judge, or anyone even slightly cognisant of law, would look at this situation and say “No, Kesha should be “freed” of the contract she agreed to”?
Grow up, jesus.
#FREEKESHA
It’s been over three years since we last got a full length album from Kesha. Warrior was my favorite album released in 2012. Unfortunately, today Kesha lost her case against the rapist Dr. Luke. The case’s initial goal was to allow Kesha to make music without Dr. Luke. Sony has suggested that she stays under her current contract without having to work with producer Dr. Luke. Kesha’s lawyer made it clear that it is a bad idea because she will still have to pay him because she is under his label and the deal might result in lack of promotion for Kesha’s future music.
No one should be forced to work with their rapist. This is not the end. Animals, we’re ready to keep fighting. After all, “we were born to break the doors down, fight until the end”. Good will always win.
This isn’t the first time Dr. Luke has been blamed for disgusting acts of cruelty. Other female singers who struggled with him include Charli XCX, Becky G, Demi Lovato, Lady Gaga, P!nk, Bonnie McKee, and Sky Ferreira.
Many celebrities showed their support by tweeting about the issue by using the hashtag #FreeKesha, some of the celebrities that show their support are Lily Allen, Bea Miller, Lorde, Alessia Cara, Ryn Weaver, Halsey, and Zara Larsson.
PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT BY CONTINUING TO TWEET #FREEKESHA. WE’LL NEVER BE SILENCED, JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED.
You people seriously disturb me to my core. Lukasz Sebastian Gottwald, AKA Dr. Luke. Is not a rapist. He has not been convinced for a crime, he has not been CHARGED with a crime. There is absolutely zero evidence that he raped, drugged or physically assaulted anyone.
What we have, is Kesha’s claim. Nothing else. This idea that that he is guilty until proven innocent (something that you cannot do, in this particular case) is fucking asinine and you people are fucking nuts.
The statement that Dr.Luke is a rapist is straight up fucking libellous.
Gamergate is amazing.
Enjoy more of this insanity in my storify. If you think you can handle it.
My turn:
Of all the post that I’ve read…I have only seen #Gamergate supporters say that they couldn’t believe that they were for once agreeing with Jack Thompson (in reference to his opinion on Anita Sarkeesian)
But in August and September I saw many post floating around tumblr and twitter from the SJW’s and Journalist that were saying “Jack Thompson was Right all along”
Now that he’s against their queen and they want to demonize him again
There wasn’t any talk of Gamergate in the video yet everyone one of the Anti-GG side proclaimed he had sided with us so much as if he was our new leader
Hell no, he was wrong for the way he went about trying to ban games back then, that’s why we hate him
He still has an anti-violent video game stance but he has eased up on it to the point that he just wants to keep them away from kids and only let adults play them
Of which almost all adult gamers feel about that subject
He only says it now because we beat him back then and educated him on why he lost,
Give Anita or any of the journalist 5-10 years after we beat them in this war and they’ll probably sound more logical too
War, war never changes….
These are backers only comments from a Tropes vs Women Kickstarter update. Each comment is from someone who donated to Anita Sarkeesian & Jonathan McIntosh. If anyone claims I’m the only backer that has a problem with the series, they’re either ignorant or lying. The videos are more than 3 years late, they push debunked science, and they use stolen gameplay footage. Feminist Frequency has also received almost half a million dollars ($) in donations.
But that’s okay because something something feminism something something video games hate women.
(cc: @poppypicklesticks @thespectacularspider-girl @plebcomics)
Woman Whos Never Worked In The Gaming Industry: Women in the gaming world are discriminated against in the work force
Feminists Who Also Never Worked That Field: This must be stopped!!
Women Who Actually Work In The Gaming Industry: Actually its really inclusive and many of he higher ups are women.
Feminists Who Also Never Worked That Field: Your experience doesn't mean everyone's is like that.
Woman Who's Never Worked In The Porn Industry: The porn industry is a harmful and toxic place for women.
Feminists Who Have Never Worked The Porn Industry: This must be stopped!
Women Who Actually Work In The Porn Industry: Actually most of the people in the industry are women, including actors, directors, svreen writers ect.
Feminists Who Have Never Worked The Industry: Yeah you don't know what you're talking about.
Woman Whos Never Worked In The STEM Field: The STEM field discriminates against women and seeks to stop them from from coming in.
Feminists Who Also Have No Experinence There: This must be stopped!!
Women Who Work In STEM Field Positions: Actually its not hard at all and no one really cares i am a woman. Less women are just interested in this field
Feminists: Oh my god shut up. You obviously have internalized misogyny and are brain washed.
The lack of self-awareness in this in mind-boggling
The normal person doesn’t want to talk to the SJW, because the SJW keeps pushing gender-politics into everything…
…so what happens?
The SJW pushes gender-politics into everything - and then looks confused as if to say “What? What did I do wrong?”
Consider that making a comic like this takes time. Time in which a sane person could have realized that you’re making yourself look bad - you’re proving why you’re unpopular, why people do not want to talk to you.
Fucking hell
… This is not anti-SJW comics?
Because it’s a brilliant anti-SJW comic.
Seriously, I thought this was an edit of an actual comic.
What the hell?
I…
What’s the original joke supposed to be? How is this anything except making fun of your ideologies? I just don’t understand.
Anti-GG SJW accuses #GamerGate of trying to doxx twitter in an effort to get #GamerGate shut down.
Fails to note that their screencap reveals that they themselves were the one that doxxed twitter.
Posts screencap to twitter.
Oh wow.
What a noob, they got so excited over finding a way to make Gamergate look bad that they didn’t proof read it
Sad thing is, this isn’t even the first time they’ve done this.
There were numerous attempts to pull this same shit over and over on the various GamerGate boards, all of which have IDs on them.
It was a riot watching clueless outsiders attempt to stage some form of doxing or death threat to screen cap, only to then go on to repeatedly reply to their own posts.
And these are just the couple I have on hand. This doesn’t even cover incidents like Brianna Wu starting a hate thread about herself with her own account on the discussion forum for her own greenlight project.
Don’t ever doubt the depths these people will sink to. There’s a lot of money and their entire professional lives on the line here and there’s not a single SJW alive who wouldn’t fake their own harassment or set up a false flag if they knew it would benefit them.
This also happened with sarkeesian and wu on their respective (although not respected) tumblr accounts, wherein they claimed they were hacked afterwards.
While the double standard is certainly apparent here, I can’t really endorse this post because of that completely cringe-worthy reference.
If you also played “modern-videogames” you’d know that was a terrible choice and implying a shitty meme from a bad game was any barometer for being a “real gamer” is absurd. Additionally it completely undermines your argument to do the “prove you play vibeo games for realz!!!” shit
