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THE VERY FIRST STAR TREK SLASH FIC PUBLISHED
âA Fragment out of Timeâ, published in 1974. Kirk / Spock. page 1 page 2
I had to share it with you because I canât stop laughing, and every time I reread it it just gets funnier and fUNNIER
This fan fiction is older than the push-through tabs on soda cans.
Your grandma wrote this on her Commodore 64.
I miss my Commodore 64
Oh my dear, sweet children. The Commodore 64 came out in 1982. This was produced on a typewriter and probably mimeographed. And while it may seem funny now, it took more courage to write and distribute this than you will ever  know.
Reblogged for that last comment.
respect your elders
Children, in the olden days fanfiction was written on a typewriter, copied and sent by snail mail. Getting one one of those letters from across the world was every bit as exciting as getting a notification that your favorite writer posted a new fic.
Itâs been said before, but the fact that this fic begins with the dialogue assertion âWeâre by no means setting a precedentâ is endlessly amusing to me.
Diane Marchant changed all our lives. May she rest in peace.
The precedent line is especially amusing when you bear in mind that âA Fragment Out of Timeâ is not only the first Star Trek slashfic to be published in a widely distributed magazine: itâs believed by some to be the first slashfic of any kind to be widely published.
In 1974 it was illegal to send pornography through the USPS. So distributing fic like this via mailed newsletter was literally dangerous. And they knew it.
Tosses you more of these before I go to sleep
Okay I'm going to sleep now goodnight
they're on their way to return the slab
The Doctor's assistant Peter Purves was invited to a screening of the episodes in Leicester.
OH MY GOD??
oh my god i talk a lot of shit about getting back more of daleks master plan but its actually happening there's a clip on the article and everything. oh my god it's 1am. i have work in the morning.
and two?? TWO????? im on the fucking floor
Peter Purves, who played the Doctor's assistant Steven Taylor, was invited to the Phoenix Cinema in Leicester on Wednesday under false pretenses to view the two episodes, and he said: "My flabber has never been so gasted."
My flabber has never been so gasted.
Daleks Master Plan was broadcast once in the UK in 1965/66 and then never again bcos it was never picked up for overseas broadcast. there were 2 copies known to exist total. this is genuinely incredible news I knew we were getting a missing episode return but I can't believe it's actually DMP oh my god
Chuck Jones is the best counterexample to âthe curtains are just blueâ because you would not believe the amount of thought and art theory he put into his silly little cartoons
I need to dig out my Chuck Jones books but one time he was talking about the Wile E Coyote gag where he runs off a cliff and continues running for a little bit before noticing thereâs no ground underneath him and then turns to the camera and holds up a sign saying âHelp!â before plummeting and Jones said the reason Coyote does that instead of immediately trying to get back to the cliff edge is bc Coyote embodies anxiety and in that particular moment represents the fear and worry about the judgement of others over and above the desire for self-preservation.
Like, if someone was told that interpretation without knowing any better theyâd think it came from some pretentious academic or whatever but nope! Itâs literally the creator like those are the thoughts he had in his head when he was creating the cartoons
the Nine Rules of the Roadrunner cartoons always sticks with me. Rule 3 especially
Ngl I totally forgot fandom discourse was a thing. I donât care man, I have car payments
starting a collection
If I may submit:
One of those fandom things that I love is when thereâs new characters around and, with the unwavering confidence of an old farmer appraising cattle, fanfic authors take one good look at them, tilt their imaginary hat, and go âAye. Praise kink, that one. Mighty case of praise kink if I ever saw one.â And everyone else just âaye.â
Not to mention the plot tropes.
âI donât think the Highschool AU is going to come in too strong this year. Fandoms a touch jaded for that. But the hurt/comfort is growinâ thick as weeds and twice as fast. Itâll be a good harvest, fer sure.â
@cynaram
âI hear over at [neighbouring fandom] theyâre putting the top field into fix-it fics.â
âYes, âtwould be.  They had a hard season last year, a right hard season.âÂ
âYou think I ought to plant a little Sailor Moon Wild West AU? Donât know if anything would come of it. Might not make it to harvest.â
âWonât know until you plant it, will you?â
âAh, a heritage crop.â
The shipping forecast.
The Fandom Almanac
âI think Iâm going to sow some rarepairs this season. Donât know what the market for âem will be, but I can eat âem if nobody else wants to.â
Petition to start referring to fanworks as âproduceâ and stop calling it âcontentâ.
Produce = Fresh. Tasty. Nutritious. Contains some ppm of Love.
Content = Lifeless. Sterile. An obligation.
My toxic fandom take is that I think that it's awful how much we can talk to creators and get answers from them word of god style. We should be out here in a godless place rooting for scraps of lore in the media like truffle pigs out in the fields
I miss when everyone on my dash listened to Welcome to Night Vale so thereâs be a good chance that on any ole day someone would reblog a quote that would grab me by the throat and forcibly ascend me to a higher plane where I understood myself and the universe better and with more kindness but also a little spook
âThe past is gone, and cannot harm you anymore. And while the future is fast coming for you, it always flinches first and settles in as the gentle presentâ are you kidding me this quote has propelled me through at least three emotional crises
âThe desert seems vast, even endless. And yet scientists tell us that somewhere, even now, there is snow.â That quote literally got me through grieving my brother like WTNV goes HARD
A List of Some of My Favorite Quotes From This Insane Podcast:
"You are beautiful when you do beautiful things."
"The present tense of regret is indecision."
"We understand so much, but the sky behind those lights-- mostly void, partially stars-- that sky reminds us we don't understand even more."
"Be proud of your place in the Cosmos. It is small and yet it is."
"Believe in yourself. You are an ancient, absent god, discussed only rarely by literary scholars. So if you don't believe, no one will."
"Death is only the end if you assume the story is about you."
âWhisper a dangerous secret to someone you care about. Now they have the power to destroy you, but they wonât. Thatâs what love is.â
"Are we living a life that is safe from harm? Of course not. We never are. But thatâs not the right question. The question is are we living a life that is worth the harm?"
"When we talk about teenagers, we adults often talk with an air of scorn, of expectation for disappointment. And this can make people who are presently teenagers feel very defensive. But what everyone should understand is that none of us are talking to the teenagers that exist now, but talking back to the teenager we ourselves once were â all stupid mistakes and lack of fear, and bodies that hadnât yet begun to slump into a lasting nothing. Any teenager who exists now is incidental to the potent mix of nostalgia and shame with which we speak to our younger selves."
"We are not history yet. We are happening now. How miraculous is that?"
"Wednesday has been cancelled due to a scheduling error."
"We have nothing to fear except ourselves. We are unholy, awful people."
"A million dollars isnât cool. You know whatâs cool? A basilisk."
"There's nothing under your bed. There's nothing in your closet. Nothing waits in every darkness. Nothing is the most terrifying thing of all."
"The night sky is ten miles wide, eight miles deep, and floats three miles up. Its favourite food is grape jelly. It wants to be a drummer."
"Look to the sky. You will not find answers there, but you will certainly see what everyone is screaming about."
"Ignorance might not actually be bliss, but it is certainly less work."
"And now, a special report. Crocodiles: Can they eat your children? *YES.*"
"Lie down and look up at the ceiling and breathe with those curiously fragile lungs of yours and remind yourself: Donât worry. Donât worry. All is as it was meant to be. It was meant to be lonely and terrifying and unfair and fleeting. Donât worry."
"As long as Iâm reminding myself things, Iâm a good person, worthy of love â both from myself and others."
"Guns don't kill people! It's impossible to be killed by a gun. We are all invincible to bullets and it's a miracle!"
"Everything is exciting! Particularly existence. Existence is the most thrilling fact of all."
"There is a monster under your bed. A monster at your window. A monster any place you imagine one. You project your monsters on the world."
"You miss 100% of the bank robberies you don't commit."
"I like my coffee like I like my nights. Dark, endless, and impossible to sleep through. "
"A friendly desert community where the sun is hot, the moon is beautiful, and mysterious lights pass overhead while we all pretend to sleep. Welcome to Night Vale."
"And now, the weather."
I discovered this podcast at the beginning of high school, and let me tell you, it rewired my synapses.
Not only was it my first experience with positive LGBT representation, it was the show I clung to when everything else went to shit. Whatever was going on in my life, I knew I had this show in my corner, making me laugh, making me cry, making me feel okay about my place in the universe.
I owe the creators of this podcast more than I could express.
"the lights over the Arby's" is such an intrinsically queer piece of writing that it hits me *hard* every time.
"We will never be the same again. But here's a little secret for you: no one is ever the same thing again after anything. You are never the same twice, and much of your unhappiness comes from trying to pretend that you are. Accept that you are different each day, and do so joyfully, recognizing it for the gift it is. Work within the desires and goals of the person you are currently, until you aren't that person anymore, and everything changes once again." (from Episode 75)
"The universe is vast. You are also vast. So is an ant. There are different sizes of infinity."
i love media where characters are (violently) obsessed with each other and never kiss or have sex. this definitely has nothing to do with me being aroace
horror sub-genres: cults
sexualizing your fav characters? Nah mate you got me wrong, Iâm asexualizing them, that oneâs demi now
No suggestion any manipulative in this relationship  ° -°
dnis are evitonmental storytelling because you can instantly imagine the incomprehensible hellscape someone is trapped in if they have a dni that's like dni if you:
think irish people can't be pan
are an apologist for season 2 scrunklepus or the knights of glop
hunt and kill people for sport
play frunko's quest
think movies always have to be slimy
think it's okay for welsh people to cosplay flugson
don't tag bibbles or togs
think that dutch and samoan are the same nationality
use the z-slur
participated in the srebenica massacre
are mutuals with steve
Please say sike
I'm so sorry
#do u ever see the silhouette of a whale pass underneath your small fishing vessel?
as youre very both old school fandom and also someone who works to preserve old fandom content, what do you think is the best way to print off and preserve fanfics? I've been wanting to start to move my many many many archived pdfs into actual physical copies but ive been way too intimidated to really look deep into it so I was wondering if you had a preference
Okay, so.
My preference is "yes." Yes, I want you to archive them. Yes, I want you to save them. I've worked to preserve 1960s teen pulp mags, for fuck's sake, it can't get much worse than that, and I'm grateful to have them.
With that said, pick any or all of the following options to make your physical printouts last longer: --select acid-free paper --bind by sewing, not stapling --store in archival sleeves, like the ones you use for old comic books And now, pick any or all of the following options to make my life easier as a historian (or, you know, the lives of the historians who come after me): --include the title --include the author's name --include the fandom name --include which version of the canon, if relevant (e.g. the OG Transformers show vs the Michael Bay movies) --include the date, or at least year, of publication --include the summary --include the site of origin, including the URL All of these things are called provenance and help not only to identify a specific work, but to place it within its cultural context. As an amusing example: I recently got into James Bond, and decided to go through every fic in the main pairing tag, in chronological order. There came a point where suddenly, out of nowhere, there were like two solid pages of nothing but A/B/O, which I previously had not seen at all. I had a suspicion, so I looked it up, and sure enough--those two pages appeared within just a couple of weeks of the corresponding Supernatural episode. Having publication dates let me determine that. If I were a historian trying to piece together a long-ago puzzle instead of going "lol I live on the hellsite, I bet I know exactly where this came from," that would be a huge datapoint. I could probably find a similar sudden explosion in other fandoms, as well--and if we're going far enough in the future, if Supernatural were to just vanish off the face of the planet along with its entire fandom, historians could still trace that it existed and even determine some of its events based on when certain tropes begin to appear in other fandoms. And further, the fact that its tropes and major events appear in so many other fandoms would allow those historians to say "this must have been a very, very popular story." (This isn't just me making shit up to sound important, by the way. This is literally how we have records of a lot of things throughout antiquity and even into the Renaissance. The more copies there are of something, or the more references that are made to a thing in other things, the more likely it is for at least part of it to survive. This is literally how we know about Shakespeare's two lost plays--he was a popular enough playwright that quartos of his plays were advertised for sale.) Whew! Now let's get into stuff you could do that would make me, as a historian, scream with delight if I were to open your folder full of labeled, acid-free fanfiction fifty years from now: --write a little something about why you picked this particular fic to preserve in hard copy when doing so is bulky and time-consuming compared to the easy instant storage of the internet, yes, even if your reason is "I'm trying not to use my phone in bed because the screen keeps me awake but this story is soothing to reread" --write a little something about who you are, even if it's just "my name is X, my age is Y, I live in Z, I printed this out in 2022" And last but not least: Marginalia. Marginalia. Marginalia, my beloved. That's when you write your thoughts in the columns on the sides, underline stuff, circle it, and so on. Having marginalia means I actually get a window into your thoughts as you read--your perspective, stuff that stuck out to you, places the story made you feel some kind of serious emotion. And yes, this goes for everything. Villain A kills Hero B and you write "YOU MOTHERFUCKER" in the margin, that tells Future Historian Me that you really loved Hero B, you were invested in seeing her succeed, and that this scene really resonated with you. One of my most treasured possessions in the fandom museum is a copy of the novelization of the Help! movie the Beatles did. This particular copy is very worn--unsurprising, it was a cheap paperback even when it was printed--but also, its original owner apparently took it to the movie theatre and
wrote notes in the margins indicating all the things happening onscreen that weren't in the book. What does this tell me? WELL. Let's go ahead and take a look: 1) the written ink doesn't look any newer than the book, so I'm guessing a little when I say this was the original owner and in the theatre, but I have an actual datapoint I'm basing that on 2) based on handwriting and the main demographic of the Beatles audience at the time, this was a young woman, probably a teenager. 3) she went to see the movie more than once (some notes are in pencil, some in ink, but the handwriting is all the same) 4) she was dedicated to making sure every moment of the movie was preserved. This was an era before home video players, so once the movie left theatres, she had no guarantee of seeing it again. 5) while the book is worn, it's not beaten all to shit. It was read a lot, but there's no evidence it was mistreated, so it was probably a prized or at least respected possession.
What can I extrapolate from this, with the understanding that I mean "what theories can I reasonably form but not prove"? Well. She was probably a pretty big fan, since she went to see the movie at least twice and also bought the book. Maybe she wanted to keep the story after the movie was gone. Maybe she was looking for answers for some teen mag contest like "find these things in the Help! movie and win a chance to meet the Beatles." Maybe she had a friend who wasn't allowed to go to the movie. You know what the most tantalizing possibility is to me, although I'll never be able to prove it and actual ethics as a historian mean I can only present it as one among many possibilities? Maybe she did it as a source reference for writing fanfiction. We don't know. We can't know, because I have no idea who the original owner was or if she's even still alive and no way to trace her. But that? In terms of fandom history, that is a fucking gold mine. Pure 24-karat all through. From a strictly historical view, that's worth more than the animation cel I've got in there, and I paid over a hundred bucks for that thing.
So yeah! That was a lot of words to say "just do it." But there's your answer!
Oh this is super helpful I had never even HEARD of acid-free paper before this, and I had no idea how important things like dates and notes in the margins could be! Also gives me an excuse to practice sewing again for the first time in years if stapling isnât the best idea. I still have plenty of my own research to do because I care deeply about a lot of these stories and I want to do them justice. Iâm also just really glad there's people like you who go âWho cares if its a shitty first attempt? I have worse and I love it immensely not just despite of it but in some ways because of it!â it really takes the edge of my anxiety about not being perfect.
LAST TIME, ON âNINA BLOGS FANDOM HISTORYâ:
Make me scream in glee by doing these things!
@sailorzeo can confirm she just saw me do just that, when she handed me an old book of printed fanfiction (actual quote upon her finding it: âSQUEEAK!!â). Iâm looking through it right now, and when I say whatever you write, WHATEVER you write, provides provenance and context?
This is from 1996. Today it would almost certainly be measured in total word count. But in Ye Olde Days, you had to watch how much content you were putting per part because dial-up was slow and people wanted to read their fic when they were still young; measuring in pages or K/KB (kilobytes, not thousands) was the standard.
This is literally a look at the customs of fandom before broadband or even DSL were widespread. And itâs a single handwritten page. Look at everything there! How Zeo (and the author) chose to organize it; the length compared to modern-day fic; the way itâs segmented. (Looking at the fic itself, the formatting is also way different than modern formatting. Good, but different.)
And at least in theory, via the Wayback Machine or archive.org, I could still go find this fic online, because the name of the webpage is included on the printouts.
WRITE. YOUR. PROVENANCE.
I'm going to add a little bit that will make historians love you even more when you write the provenance down. Add the date you downloaded the fic.
When you are sourcing online information for research papers and the like, you have to put the date you found the info, because it can change on the web page. The information on the reference page is roughly
"Author, title, journal name, volume, number, year, url, date accessed" or
"Author, title, url, date accessed" for something short
Important addition.
.....i have thousands of words worth of comments that Ive left on fic. many that have been replied to and that I still have access to download also......
do....do historians want that too?
@prismatic-bell
YEP.
Just the idea thrills me. Comments are a form of marginalia! Theyâre sharing your thoughts, but with the author this time. The fact that we can do that so instantly is unmatched in history and it absolutely changes the way people engage with the text.
âComments are a form of marginaliaâ hit me pretty directly, because thatâs exactly how I leave most of my ao3 comments these days. As I go through the chapter I pull up a blank Notepad document and jot down specific reactions to specific lines/events/scenes - anything from a simple âoof!â or âawwwwwwâ to âokay, so the gift is an obvious reference to this thing in the recipientâs past, but I happen to remember that in your other fic where the giver is figuring out their own identity they tried out this name thatâs directly related, so I choose to believe that factored into their choiceâ or âI wonder if the settingâs healing magic could fix food sensitivity reactions, given it canonically can help with wounds but not appendicitis - though I recognize food sensitivity is not actually whatâs going on here, it just free-associated in my brainâ (actual examples, re-created from memory without the specific details). Sometimes I edit before I c&p them into the comment field, but that is usually how they start. And at least three different authors have responded to say they liked the âlivetweet-styleâ of them.
âTeety-Woo has gotten a special role in the game, because he also serves as a helper/guide in the first chapter of the game - to help the players understand how to play. These kind of tutorials can be a bit annoying for some players, and that fits really well with the fact that Snufkin finds the creature slightly annoying at first.â