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one thing the duffers can never take away from me was the buzzing excited feeling of summer 2022 when s4 was released,, the air was just different. the byler theories were popping off every single day. we had so much new content to feast on. we’d talk about the same scenes over and over again and yet find something new each time. we got some of the gayest byler scenes in the show that summer. i will forever love and miss those days of byler nation.
one thing the duffers can never take away from me was the buzzing excited feeling of summer 2022 when s4 was released,, the air was just different. the byler theories were popping off every single day. we had so much new content to feast on. we’d talk about the same scenes over and over again and yet find something new each time. we got some of the gayest byler scenes in the show that summer. i will forever love and miss those days of byler nation.
wait so will byers didnt earn a coming out scene yet in season 4 but mike and el earned a kiss at the end of season 1 even tho they knew each other for like 5 days
This fandom is a prison
“You’re just upset that byler didn’t happen”
I am, but it also would made sense for both characters and it would’ve fit with the original theme of outcasts in the late 80s finding a place to belong
I am, but I would be significantly less if the finale didn't suck ass (not only) because of it.
Byler not happening could have been done well and with care.
But it wasn't. It wasn't.
Ships that would’ve been canon if one of them was a woman
Mike and Will (Stranger Things)
Charles and Erik (Marvel)
Sam and Bucky (Marvel)
Penguin and Riddler (DC comics)
Jayce and Viktor (Arcane)
im sorry but *Save Your Tears* by The Weeknd is such an epilogue byler song i cant even
I miss season two Mike Wheeler so much
I miss season two Stranger Things so much
Has someone written a tower scene fic in Mike pov where he still says the best friends line but then feels like the biggest most awkward idiot afterwards?
haven't the Duffers written that?
I think in duffers version he just pats himself on the back for it?
But idk I’ve only watched the finale once and I was sleep deprived
Has someone written a tower scene fic in Mike pov where he still says the best friends line but then feels like the biggest most awkward idiot afterwards?
haven't the Duffers written that?
"Chatgpt wrote the coming out scene."
"Friends? No, best friends!" scene was written by chatgpt…”
Honestly I think these scenes are so badly written that I have no doubt the Duffers wrote them. And they probably even gave themselves a big pat on the back, thinking they had done a great job. What surprises me is how no one in the writing room stepped in to tell them that these scenes were badly written and wouldn’t work on screen…
as far as I know, Noah did with the coming out scene
we can guess how well that went
the stranger things finale kind of sucked.
not in a “it was all terrible” way.
but in a “how did we fumble THIS many narrative balls in the FINAL season of a billion-dollar show” way.
and it all starts with:
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THE HOLLY WHEELER PROBLEM
i said it.
i meant it.
i’ll say it again louder for the people in the upside down.
the holly plotline was useless.
not “bad.”
not “poorly acted.”
just… narratively unnecessary.
she had more screen time than half of the original cast.
HALF.
characters we’ve known since season 1 were standing in the corner like forgotten coats while holly and her little stranger squad were running around having their own side quest.
and for what?
what did it actually change?
remove the holly plotline and you still get:
• vecna
• the final fight
• the upside down
• the world ending
but suddenly you also get:
• more time for mike
• more time for will
• more time for joyce
• more time for literally anyone who mattered
they said they were “circling back to the core themes.”
FRIENDSHIP AND LOVE PREVAILS MY ASS.
this season was:
doom
gloom
crying
death
suffering for no actually reason
apocalypse
action packed bullshit
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HOPPER SHOULD HAVE STAYED DEAD
i love hopper.
he is a king.
he is a dad.
he is a real life hero.
but.
HE. SHOULD. HAVE. STAYED. DEAD.
bob’s death in season 2 hit because it told us something:
no one is safe.
that’s what makes horror work.
that’s what makes you hold your breath.
now?
steve falls off a TOWER in season 5 and i don’t even blink.
i was like:
“he’s fine.”
because he is.
everyone is.
they have so much plot armor they could walk into the sun and come back with a mild tan.
when everyone is guaranteed to survive, nothing feels dangerous.
and when nothing feels dangerous, nothing feels important. Or real!
hopper staying dead would have:
• raised the stakes
• fixed the fear
• and forced eleven to grow on her own
which brings me to—
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LET ELEVEN BE A PERSON, NOT A PET
this is not about ships.
do not come in here with that energy.
jane needed independence.
she needed to exist outside of:
hopper
mike
the government
netflix’s marketing department
kali should have lived.
period.
eleven could have escaped.
built a life.
been a person.
instead we got:
more suffering
more trauma
more reset-to-factory-settings arcs
girl has been through ENOUGH.
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THE WILL BYERS SITUATION
they should not have dragged will being in love with mike this long.
there were two options:
1. follow through
2. shut it down early and give will a new love interest
they did neither.
they just let him suffer in the narrative corner for five seasons.
and that robin pep talk?
wasted time.
led nowhere.
gave him false hope.
then did nothing with it.
you know what that time could have been?
what were all those clues? those glances? the touches? the tension?
all these for a big Nothing Burger!
THE FINAL FIGHT.
people are not wrong when they say the final battle was barely longer than will’s coming out scene.
priorities were in hell.
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CONFORMITYGATE AND THE MARKETING MACHINE
netflix knew this was controversial.
they fed it.
they promoted it.
they tweeted about it.
because controversy = clicks
clicks = engagement
engagement = money
we are not viewers.
we are metrics.
we are little corporate pawns in netflix’s chess game.
and they’re playing 4D chess with our feelings.
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BACK TO HOLLY (BECAUSE I’M NOT DONE)
they aged her up.
ignored her canonical age.
made her important.
why?
new kids = new audience.
but what was their actual purpose?
“to merge the worlds.”
okay.
why.
how.
to what end.
no answers.
Pure aesthetic, zero explanation.
we didn’t need 12 new characters in the FINAL season.
we needed:
the kids we started with.
that’s it.
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IN CONCLUSION
the choices this season were… interesting.
that’s the nicest thing i can say.
this could have been a beautiful, focused, emotional ending.
instead we got:
corporate storytelling
safe decisions
marketable drama
and a finale that felt like it was trying to please everyone and satisfied no one.
anyway.
i’m going to go lie on my bed and stare at the ceiling now.
reblog if you agree.
reblog if you’re mad.
reblog if will byers deserved better.
I agree with one minor point:
Holly Wheeler's screen time served one (1) purpose.
To bring back Max.
And fair enough; but it could have taken half the time.
Another twitter round-up to lighten the mood!
did the divorce slow you down
this looks like a byler confession scene if you really squint
Mike saw Will's Coming Out press conference and said "hold my beer"
Now that the show is over can I ask HOW is Will's powers innate when he's clearly siphoning his powers from the hivemind
actually 🤓
innate in DnD terms means that the powers are coming from within him instinctively, not from some spellbook or incantations he'd have to learn. He doesn't have to learn unlike a Wizard.
A Sorcerer in DnD can aquire powers via several methods- including an encounter with raw magic or they can even draw their powers from something called Shadowfell. If we squint enough Will's case could be either of those.
Although, directly speaking, innate DOES mean that Sorcerers are usually born with those abilities. El would be a true Sorcerer actually. Not that mage bullshit (which is closer to a Wizard and El is definitely not one.)
So Will is more like a Warlock. Warlock gets powers through a deal with another powerful being - like Devil, or they can get them in exchange for their services.
Will's deal - services - weren't really done willingly though, so I can see why Mike would go for a Sorcerer instead.
Ambitious idea, but hear me out...
What about all the artists in the fandom uniting to remake the finale (a short but well summarized version obviously) like a short animated film? It can be divided into groups of writers, illustrators, animators, voice actors and editors.
I think it would be an incredible love letter for the show and characters we actually fell in love with and not the thing that let us down. To the fans for the fans.
And all the fandom can contribute with their ideas or suggestions and support. Also it would be fun, so yeah that's it. That's my proposal.
if this ever worked out it'd be nice
also I think Noah Schnapp would voice Will if asked (and allowed by whatever contract he has signed)
Oh, they know
oh, we really know
