hardest part about having BPD and monoconscious DID simultaneously is never knowing if a personality swing is a new alter/temporary fragment or just a BPD swing
with my memory loss I js know I finna forget to update my birthday so I changed it to 18 early. my birthday's in 5 days ok?? don't forget to wish me happy birthday btw 😊
Anti-endos are ableist and anti scientific. A small group of people who purposefully go into spaces of people who aren't claiming to have a serious disorder to agitate. They really think that calling them ableist and saying they don't exist makes it fact. Anti-endos are harmful and extremely ableist towards people who just happen to be systems for reasons other than trauma.
I already posted this a while ago but thought I'd mention it again
I made a Plural themed Spotify playlist of which I then migrated to YouTube for those who don't have Spotify Premium.
The lists are ordered from most to least system-esque, in our opinion.
Check it out!
I made a lyrics version of the latter playlist!
Recommended additions are much much welcomed!
Some yap below the cut:
When it comes to plural-coded music, most people tend to focus on Vocaloid songs, but you'd be surprised at how plural-coded The Living Tombstone really is...
Especially the very first song, "How we could have known, that we're stuck in a system" is the very first lyric. Come on guys! How are you missing this goldmine of an artist[s]?!
This is perfect evidence. This is literally the entire thing. None of you like yourselves, and you’re desperately trying to reinvent yourselves over and over and over and over again because you’re lonely and you don’t like who you are. It’s why you all make posts about “if you’re worried you’re not alterhuman, it’s ok, you are!” or “if you think you’re not plural, don’t worry, you are!” because none of you want to be lonely, so you redefine others just as much as you try to redefine yourselves.
It’s incredibly pathetic.
This last excerpt is referring to the fact that they found that individuals who do not have psychosis were more likely to hallucinate if they think they are a tulpa and are affected by ASMR. Basically, to summarize, they’re saying you’re tricking your brain into feeling something, which is tricking you into believing you actually have a tulpa/you’re plural/alterhuman/therian whatever.
wait nvm this is just some 30 year old no-lifer who is somehow anti plural??? as if that's a choice or something idk. very interesting. have fun harassing minors on tumblr of all places at the ripe age of 30...
This is perfect evidence. This is literally the entire thing. None of you like yourselves, and you’re desperately trying to reinvent yourselves over and over and over and over again because you’re lonely and you don’t like who you are. It’s why you all make posts about “if you’re worried you’re not alterhuman, it’s ok, you are!” or “if you think you’re not plural, don’t worry, you are!” because none of you want to be lonely, so you redefine others just as much as you try to redefine yourselves.
It’s incredibly pathetic.
This last excerpt is referring to the fact that they found that individuals who do not have psychosis were more likely to hallucinate if they think they are a tulpa and are affected by ASMR. Basically, to summarize, they’re saying you’re tricking your brain into feeling something, which is tricking you into believing you actually have a tulpa/you’re plural/alterhuman/therian whatever.
Just ordered an ancestry test. I already know I got heritage all over Europe, but either this test will horribly surprise me, or it will be literally everything I already assumed and I’ll be terribly underwhelmed 😬
I like to disappear off the internet sometimes oops, anyways I got the ancestry test and stuff and apparently I'm a whole 25% Ingrian and I've already been through the identity crisis stuff so yay.
I'm just very Nordic and very Eastern European, what a mix! My boyfriend calls me a Euromutt for better or for worse 😊
Just ordered an ancestry test. I already know I got heritage all over Europe, but either this test will horribly surprise me, or it will be literally everything I already assumed and I’ll be terribly underwhelmed 😬
Hiya! Us again. Oughjhsudj so! More questions incoming!!
We've noticed that we can feel some strong bouts of rage at really small things, but at the same time, we have a paradox where we feel bad/like the person deserved it when it IS directed at someone. Is this something that ever happened to you? Or might this be from something else?
This definitely applies to me. One thing I've noticed when comparing myself to other pwBPD is that I'm significantly less aggressive. I am a very passive aggressive person, though. When I don't like someone I always make it pretty obvious. Black & white thinking yk?
When I actually am genuinely mad at someone I always think it's deserved, I don't just become enraged randomly. And yeah, the reasons can be really tiny, for me that's especially prominent with my favourite person. I have a real big problem with developing TONS of TINY aggression triggers only my favourite person can trigger.
hi hi ^_^ i was wondering if it would be possible if you could explain endogenic DID? :3
absolutely all good if you’d rather not tho!! we’re questioning if we maybe have osdd despite being endo originally so yeah!
hihi I will keep postponing this post if I need to put a lot of effort into what I say so I'm not gonna cite any sources and you'll just have to either 1. research everything I say after reading this, or 2. trust me bro I'm the human equivalent of Britannica.
Our system is formed by probably one of the most common non-traumagenic sources: BPD. In our case, this means our system was developed by naming and personifying the rapid emotional swings in BPD until they gained their own life, pretty much just recycling the process of Tulpamancy with a bit less of a choice and more adaptation. (Things to search: "BPD Systems", "Adaptive" and "Tulpamancy", use Pluralpedia.org for all 3)
DID is a condition where, according to the criteria of both the most up-to-date DSM and ICD, you really just have to have 2 or more separate identities, dissociative amnesia, and distress caused by the system (If OSDD, then the amnesia requirement can be disregarded). Trauma isn't in the criteria, essentially making DID a disorder for when any system, regardless of origin, experiences memory loss and a significant amount of distress due to their plurality. That's us.
One or both of the diagnostic manuals does also officially recognise spiritual systems and similar situations with "If this is the case then don't diagnose DID" which just further supports the idea and validity of Endogenics. This quote doesn't explicitly state "all plurality not formed from trauma can not be diagnosed", which essentially means yes, the majority of Endogenics can be diagnosed with DID and OSDD, including my case, and furthermore proves that non-traumagenic plurality is medically recognised. this is a little side rant I came to think of but it doesn't really apply here, so moving on- (for this section you might just wanna research the entire endogenic debate but that's easier said than done. I will recommend this website though. also read the DSM & ICD entries for DID and OSDD respectively)
regardless of your stance or suspicions with my last statement, my psychologist is supportive of the idea that my system is caused by the emotional swings seen in BPD and even suggested to ME that could be the case initially (random memory that returned to me in the middle of typing this). And at this point in time, my psychologist has claimed I meet the criteria for DID a multitude of times, latest time being earlier today.
so yea that's it
TLDR: the criteria in both the ICD and DSM recognises the existence of non-traumagenic systems AND allows them to be diagnosed in most circumstances, that's me, I'm most circumstances. my trained medical professional psychologist suggests my system is caused by BPD emotional swings and also claims I have DID, so what can I say.
you're valid btwbtw, labels are just words and you can use whichever you feel are most accurate and comfortable for you. Diagnoses and general labels are only there to help you and others around you understand your experience better, not to give you "attention" or whatever the anti-endos say nowadays.