It used to be feminism 101 that using male terms by default is bad, but then trans women wanted a piece of that pie and suddenly everyone becomes philosophers and etymologists discussing the nuances of language instead of just listening to women
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It used to be feminism 101 that using male terms by default is bad, but then trans women wanted a piece of that pie and suddenly everyone becomes philosophers and etymologists discussing the nuances of language instead of just listening to women
the secret truth is that men and women are literally exactly the same
your jokes about trans women "never going outside" are noted and categorized under the same filing as other victim-blaming jokes like "if she didn't want to be assaulted she shouldn't have dressed / acted that way"
you can poke fun at the material consequences of transmisogyny all day, but there's nothing particularly funny about the fact that most transfems find it preferable to socially isolate themselves to the detriment of their mental and physical health rather than risk engaging in a violently transmisogynistic society the moment they step outside
Btw I feel the same way about people starving themselves as I do with people intentionally trying to gain weight and become fat or obese. I don't care, none of my business. If you get health problems that's your choice, if you die that's your choice. Of course I think everyone should want to be healthy and I think death is unfortunate and that weight does not necessarily determine health. But we live in the real world where people should have control over their bodies and that includes potentially harming themselves!
so youre proana
If someone wants to starve themselves and doesn't want to get better that is none of my fucking business, ESPECIALLY if I do not personally know them! Like sure, it's a tragedy, it's unfortunate and I think they deserve help, support and to get better but if they don't want it any attempt to force them into recovery will only end with repeative cycles of relapse.
I don't think they should be banned from social media. And genuinely as someone who has for many years been involved in online eating disorder spaces, most of them are not promoting anorexia they are just talking about their life and being anorexic. But you people will even call anorexics who never talk about it "proana", so!
Y'all, did you know that it's a privilege to experience misogyny, actually. Oppression has come full circle. We're now actually privileged for being oppressed. We've done it. We've solved all the world's problems.
most notably, what oop is misunderstanding, is that trans men who DO NOT PASS, have not medically transitioned yet, and are only freshly out, are seen as confused women. the narrative of transphobes flips on its head as soon as you ACTUALLY start to look like a man to them; you become a third gender, nonhuman predator in their mind. if you were there for Irreversible Damage, that's the entire point. trans men who have "already transitioned"/pass are evil predators who corrupt innocent "girls" into joining their cult. trans men aren't "not seen as a third gender", we are tactically coerced into staying women by being treated like we're confused and incapable of autonomy, and when that fails we are unceremoniously dropped into the evil tranny category, because it was only ever about trying to prevent us from leaving our assigned role as women. I watched this happen in real time with my terf stepmom; she Apparently loved me and was not aggressive when I came out, but she very assertively tried to convince me I was a confused woman who was just mentally ill and didn't know what I was doing, and needed help to "love myself", right up until the very moment I became insistent on hormones. then the narrative instantly flipped, and all the love and acceptance was gone. I was no longer human at all, and did not deserve her sympathy. and in my honest opinion , it's frightening how similar my experience has been wrt acceptance within the queer community itself.
so apparently the dsm 6 is being structured around bio-pathologizing mental illness specifically in the direction of biomarkers…if u aren’t concerned about this maybe you should be…
Psychiatry is hard at work crafting the newest edition of its diagnostic bible, DSM-6.
…so they’re now trying to search for “biomarkers”- which are essentially genes, or circumstances of conception/birth/what have you, that can “increase the risk” of mental illnesses. how is this any different from people wondering if there’s a “gay gene?” or autism speaks trying to find a genetic or reproductive “cure for autism?”
it’s not. this is barely disguised eugenics that they have ACKNOWLEDGED may (will) do more to harm than good for people with abnormal mental states. what else could the end result of finding a “mental illness gene” be than a reason to further marginalize those who are already marginalized, already branded as more likely to be (or even inherently) “mentally ill” and eventually discourage them to reproduce, either by coercion or force?
it’s more obvious than ever now. everyone should be anti psych
Psychiatry as an institution functions to obfuscate the causes of mental and emotional disturbance (economic exploitation, abuse, lack of access to resources, etc) by describing mental illness as an individual pathology that needs to be recognized and treated by science.
Given where these hardships cluster most intensely, it is extremely useful to white supremacy and eugenics to have a "scientific" method of proving that pathology is more common among "degenerate" populations.
The DSM's various incarnations have corresponded to shifts in which part of this process have been considered more or less important to prioritize - the latest restructuring to focus on biomarkers is just a recalibration to better suit the needs of the imperial-capitalist white supremacist project.
The fact it's literally a stereotype in media to have teen characters who show straight up traits of depression like locking themselves in a dirty room all day and screaming about how they hate everyone and it's played for comedy, ignored by adult characters as a 'phase'... is fucking horrifying! I'm no doctor but I know dying your hair green is a phase. Whereas staying in a filthy room for weeks on end, laying in bed all day, non-stop use of technology to the point you get migraines or lose sleep, are signs you need medical attention and therapy no matter how young and hormonal you are
I recently made a post about men being oppressed by the patriarchy. The response has gotten a bit out of hand, but there are a couple general ideas that have been repeated that I think should be addressed in a separate place where they can get the attention and focus they need.
The first idea is "the patriarchy does not oppress men, it punishes failed men."
I am going to word this in a very particular way because I think exactness on what is happening is important.
The patriarchy oppresses men by imposing artificial and harmful standards of "manliness". Men are punished for failing to adhere to these standards, but the standards themselves are inherently oppressive even to those who conform to those standards. In addition, these standards are not inherent to manliness or for the benefit of the men who conform to them, but exist to prop up and perpetuate the patriarchy. This is not to say men, individually or as a group (conditional on a lot of factors I can not possibly enumerate here), do not benefit from the patriarchy. But these artificial standards themselves are oppressive and not beneficial.
That ends the exactness part. It's pretty plain, but let's look at what I consider the most obvious example: emotional repression. A whole lot has been said about how men are expected to bury their feelings. Failing to do so will have severe social repercussions, but being coerced into emotional repression is oppressive even if you do conform. It is not good for a person to be emotionally repressed. It is harmful to that individual (to say nothing about the effects on those around them).
Emotional repression is also not an inherent trait of manliness. A man is not a failure of a man if he is willing and able to express emotions.
It is wrong to try to frame male oppression under the patriarchy solely as a matter of punishing failed men. Men are punished not for failing to be men, but for not conforming to a set of artificial oppressive standards. Non conformance is punished, but both conforming and non conforming men can be said to be oppressed by the patriarchy.
The second idea is that white cis straight etc. Maleness is not oppressed, but that deviations into minority identity maleness is, framing the whole issue in terms of identity politics. While it is true marginalized men are oppressed more heavily and violently, and often specifically because of aspects of maleness related to their minority identities, that does not account for everything. This is not simply a matter of black vs white or cis vs trans.
Once again, going back to emotional repression as an example. To be maybe a bit blunt with it, it is not gay to be in touch with your emotions. Straight, cis, white, etc. men can and should have a good understanding of their own emotions and how to express and act on them. Trying to fit the issue solely into a matter of identity politics is misguided.
Holy shit, a men are oppressed under the patriarchy take I, as an MRA, agree with.
How ever it still has the issue that the term patriarchy is gendered and will always lend way to the kinds of men aren't oppressed takes you see from arm chair feminists. It has to be de-gendered regardless.
as a pink lover. The ""universal""" hatred of the color pink by young girls is due to the heavy expectation of femininity forced on them. It is an expression of frustration at gender roles. It is not internalized misogyny. No you will not inevitably start liking pink as an adult and if you do that is not healing your inner divine feminine or whatever we're saying now. Its a color. 😁👍
mixed feelings here tbh. i think maybe... frustration. internalized misogyny. dysphoria. fear of judgement... those are all possible reasons someone may hate pink.
and. for some people. there is real healing in letting yourself enjoy pink again. like for me. i do have gender based trauma, and the color pink being pushed on me wasnt just frustrating. it was a symbol of all the trauma i'd been through.
when i was a kid, pink was my favorite color. when i was a teenager, i hated pink. now, as a young adult, i love pink.
i've learned i'm allowed to like pink. it doesn't say anything about who i am other than the fact i like pink. it's a color. and being able to see it as just a color instead of a symbol of all the trauma i've been thru?
healing. but not the inner divine feminine or whatever the fuck. just healing me. a demigirl catboy who loves pink.
TL;DR: i mostly agree and i think this is an important topic to talk about actually. bc to cisnormative misogynists "pink is just a color (for girls)" and if someone they see as a girl gets upset about it, they're overdramatic. sounds like a way to seed the idea that we cant be our own people and need our identities and lives decided for us.
btw “actual feminism” is trans inclusive and op of this tweet agrees :)
becoming the oppressor is not liberation!!!!!
posting a selfie as a trans woman simulator
YOU: hey guys here's a pic of me, be nice, I'm a lil dysphoric! and be normal please I'm in a relationship!
cisgender man: don't get the surgery
cisgender woman: omg queen! its so giving [GENDER YOU DO NOT IDENTIFY AS]
person who cant read: ummm... pleeeease step on me mommyyy
Horrible Guy: God will consign you and your ilk to the wrath of a lake of sulfur at the end of days
Same guy in your DMs immediately after: ummm... pleeeease step on me mommyyy
your transmasc friend: god I'm so sorry that people are being so awful to you! you look amazing in this picture, I'm so sorry people are awful about trans people. it has happened to me too. thinking of u 🫂
YOU: tysm 🫂
cisgender woman with TIRF in her bio: GOD its just like a MAN to make something happening to a WOMAN about them! here's a link to some white supremacist literature
I don't know I just think if a trans person (of any gender) makes a positivity post, other trans people (of any gender) should be able to say "and us too" or "and me too" or share their own similar positive experience without it being taken as derailing or making it about themselves. We should be happy about others progress and experiences and share our own! It's one of the ways humans connect—through shared experiences, even if they are a little different.
this is what transandrophobia in the trans community sounds like to me btw
what it gets you, btw
When you say "men" on Tumblr, a certain amount of people will immediate edit your statement in their brain to be "white cis straight perisex alloromantic allosexual abled neurotypical christian well educated top 25% income bracket men from the USA who were never abused in any context and has the personality and beliefs of that man that hate crimed me once" and argue all issues related to men in anyway as if every man you ever encounter is like this until proven otherwise.
But like. "Men" includes, for example, black men. And it seems pretty racist to not include them in your standard conception of men. The same goes for any other marginalized men. They are all men, and it's pretty bigoted to ignore their existence when you talk about issues that impact men.