the fact that Bruce made Jason believe in justice and that they could improve the community and better the lives of the citizens by fighting crime, but when he came back nothing had changed, the rogues were still running rampant, and the Joker didn't have a harsher punishment for torturing him, killing his mom and blowing him up, he was still just getting put on time out at Arkham until he decided to escape again
Jason's life was interrupted too soon and he came back to everything being the same shit as always, the only change was that his father had found a substitute for him
*siddles in*
See, hereās where I (respectfully) disagree!
To me, itās a matter of perspective. āNothingās changedā might be true from the outside, but it doesnāt mean āSo nothing ever mattered.ā
Maybe stopping one murder doesnāt change Gotham City, but it sure as hell changed that one personās life. Sitting with someone suicidal for an hour doesnāt stop crime, or clean up neighborhoods, but that doesnāt mean it doesnāt matter.
Gotham might be a toxic hellpit, but that doesnāt mean that his work as Robin, all those lives he saved, never mattered. Maybe things are still awful and horrible and need change, but maybe that doesnāt mean failure. Maybe it just means thereās farther to go.
And the community has improved- because the community is made up of people who get to go home to their families who wouldnāt have otherwise
And maybe everything has changed, in a way. Iām not Jewish, but thereās a saying: āIf you save a life, you save the world.ā Change a life for the better, and you make an entire world better. Thereās still hope, and love, and happiness, even if the entire city is a shithole.
Also, maybe the Joker hasnāt been killed, but Iām somewhat against the concept of guilting someone into pre-mediated murder, or the concept that someone ever be required to kill another person in cold blood.
(and Iām not even gonna touch the āBruce got Tim as a substitute son/Robinā because canon might say the opposite of that but DC canon goes wildly OOC and directly contradicts itself at times, so I suppose itās fair game)
Tl;dr: Nothingās changed doesnāt mean that Nothing ever mattered. Journey before destination.

















