Multi-fandom, multi-ship, NSFW, occasional rants, lots of love. In which I obsess over my armada of ships with the fiery passion of a thousand burning suns. Taiwanese-Canadian Vancouver/Taipei Computer Scientist Slytherin Feminist ISFJ/ISTJ Current Flagships: Reaper76, Stucky, Stony, KakaIru, IceMav, Superbat, Merthur, Logan/Scott
Because that's not how he was playing the character. That's it. That's the reason.
[this got long, sorry, OP. so putting the rest under a cut}
He takes acting really seriously. Like, the craft of acting is clearly really important to him. And constantly having people tell him that they saw something different, significantly so, on screen has got to make him feel like he didn't do a good job. Or, that a lot of people are very bad at understanding what they are seeing. Preferring, instead, to just see what they want to see. Either way, it is an easily understandable source of frustration.
But... and this is a very important 'but'... he is actually totally cool with people headcanoning however they want, and writing fanfic about whatever they want. That is why he brought up Wincest. Because he is okay with people writing fanfic about Sam and Dean being together together, just like he's okay with people writing fanfic about Dean and Castiel. He's okay with it all because it is fan fiction and he appreciates that us fans love the show so much that it makes us want to create more based on it.
However, it is legitimately rude to ask him questions about one's fan fiction, because he is not involved in that, and he doesn't want to be.
And I get that there seem to be a lot of Destiel shippers who have convinced themselves that there was a real, underlying romance between Dean and Castiel being written and acted into the show... but that is not actually true.
Yes the show made nods to Destiel, and Wincest, and made little tongue in cheeks jokes about it with a flirty sort of wink-wink at the audience, but they did that because they love us. Like saying, we see you weirdos [affectionate] out there writing your pervy little stories and drawing your nsfw art and we appreciate you.
And yes, apparently, some of the people involved in making the show also kinda maybe shipped Destiel. Jensen is not one of them.
Yes, Jensen has said that Watching Over You, the Radio Company song, was inspired, at least in part, by Castiel and his story. But y'all have got to recognize that the song is not inherently romantic. Can it be taken that way? Easily. But that does not mean that it was written about Destiel, or that it in anyway was because Jensen supported the ship.
That last bit is not directed specifically at OP, just something I've seen brought up a few times in that last couple of days in a way that was expressing frustration or confusion about Jensen seeming to be inconsistent in his stance about Destiel.
He has actually been very consistent though.
He played Dean as a heterosexual man and he is fine with shipping, but feels (rightly so) that it is a fan activity.
So, in that sense, Destiel is not 'real', it is fiction being written about the fiction he helped to make.
And finally, to tie my rant (sorry OP for kinda going off here) back around, it's not that "he just really fucking hates dean winchester being gay(bi)…. for Some Reason" and it never has been.
That was just not how he was playing the character.
If it makes sense to you that Dean was bi or gay or whatever, then you get to think that. Have fun with it. But have the basic decency and self awareness to recognize that your interpretation is not shared by everyone. It's just your interpretation.
Likewise, Jensen's intention and interpretation of the character is just that, his. But the fact remains that he was actually involved (more than anyone else at the end of it all) in crafting the Dean Winchester that was on the show. So people need to either decide that they do not care what his interpretation of the character was, and just run with their own version, or they need to admit that they do care... either way they need to stop asking him ship related questions.
Maybe turn it around: if an actor was playing a character who was written as gay, and whom the actor understood to be gay, and the audience kept asking him when he knew his character was in love with a female costar, he would be right in saying, “My character was gay and was never in love with that female character, but you can write your fan fiction about it, cool.”
I feel like Jensen also just hates being harassed and attacked like this. That girl and some people in the audience fucking boo'd him over their fictional ship and if anything that probably made him like the ship even less. He pulled out "the Wincest" like some safe word lmao, but really he was trying to be super nice and saying he respects all ships equally but don't consider them canon, which frankly is better fandom etiquette than those "fans" in the room exhibited.
every spn convention they try to waterboard jensen into saying he loves deancas and this time he gasped "wincest" when he could finally come out for air. yeah okay why not
There is a certain portion of Destiel shippers that have somehow fallen for their own fan fiction. They seem to believe that Dean really was in big romantic love with Castiel but that it had to be kept secret because of Big Homophobia™️. They believe that the fan fiction filter they placed over the show was part of the original story. They dug in searching for something, anything to lend credence to what they wanted to be going on. So they picked it apart reading into lighting choices and lamp placements, desperately in search of patterns they could point to. And then other fans who have fallen for the same delusion just reinforce it back and forth until they think that if they just ask Jensen the right way at the right time, he'll finally be able to speak to the "truth" of the show. The fact that they all went "Noooooo!" when he brought up Wincest and compared it to Destiel is because they honestly seem to think they're different. Wincest is weird and icky and not for polite company, not like the "really real" love they think they see between Dean and Castiel. Nevermind the fact that the show was actually all about Sam and Dean, and that everyone, even Misha, has pointed that out repeatedly and consistently over the years. No, if they just believe hard enough, want it badly enough, ask it often enough, then one day they will succeed at making the story something it clearly wasn't and they will have won. It's weird and cult-like and I feel so bad for Jensen having to deal with over and over and over.
But yeah, I am petty enough that hearing Jensen bring up Wincest, unprompted, and use it as a touchstone to try and put Destiel in perspective (as the fan fiction it also is) made my fucking day. Not only to hear him say the ship name, but because he held it up like it was a string of garlic he was using to try and ward off a vampire. Lol!
“Haha remember when murder-hornets were gonna be a thing? What a nothingburger.”
Yes, because the Washington state government activated like a sleeper-cell and ruthlessly, systematically hunted them down and annihilated them.
“Y2K came to nothing amirite?”
Yes because an army of software engineers working around the clock, losing sleep, and busting ass till the last minute prevented it from happening.
“Remember the hole in the ozone layer?”
You mean the one that was fixed through rigorous world wide government action?
One of the root problems of our society is a refusal or inability by media to articulate that all those “it’s gonna be an apocalypse” disasters were not disasters because we collectively did something about them.
The good news is this is actually quite correctable. I maintain my firm belief that we as humans are capable of solving almost all of our problems, when we decide to do so.
And I still think that’s going to happen. I don’t know when or how, but I do know that abandoning hope won’t help bring it about.
And I refuse to let the cynics own a chunk of my heart.
the fact of the matter is that the vancouver canucks are simply the most cursed team in the NHL and anybody who thinks otherwise only thinks so because they’ve never experienced being a canucks fan
"I wish we met sooner" is such a gentle sentiment. I love you so much I not only want you in my future, but in my past too. I want to have known you when we were small stupid kids, have held hands together as we played outside. I want to have stressed out over exams together, nudging a mug of still steaming hot chocolate against your elbow to get you to focus. I want to have told you I love you before I did anyone else. I want to have held you in my arms when all those sad memories you describe to me were still fresh wounds. I want my past to have been full of you, and full of meaningful memories with you. I want my past lives to have been spent with you, whether as two lovers, or two housecats cuddling by the fireplace on a snowy day, or two flowers that just happened to bloom on the same day, next to each other. I want to have consumed your existence and intertwined it with my own since my birth, never to be separated from you for a moment. I want to have loved you throughout it all, for all time.
i think it's great when someone tries to pull off a tragic self-sacrifice in a story and there's at least one guy who's just like "no this is fucking stupid actually. you're an idiot." about it. because it kind of is. i love a good tragedy but let's be honest with ourselves if a friend tried to indulge a noble sacrifice fantasy would you not be a little annoyed. like come on man.
I’m reblogging this again because the absolute joy in this video is something I haven’t seen in such a long time that I’d forgotten this aspect of humanity.
Grace wears a yellow raincoat because the flight suits for the mission are yellow. He wears it from the start, when he meets (and tries to escape) Stratt, and is still wearing it when the lab explosion happens and when he's having a panic attack out on the communications array. Hell, he's wearing it when he tells Stratt no and runs for his life. He was always floating around the task force in the colors reserved for the flight crew.
man this movie really does tell you everything from the start doesn't it
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