just here for a good time

sideblog for the incest subtext show. follows come from main @concerned-astronomer

[littolbrother]

[ariesrin]

I love characters who would die for each other but will not, under any circumstances, communicate a single honest feeling.

[suncaptor]

like the fact of the matter is Dean wasn't doomed by supernatural entities and narratives so far beyond him as much as he is doomed by the fact his brother is. and that's the most beautiful part.

[fxxlinwoozy]

[hells-tourism-department]

Dean goes missing, and the spell to track him down requires “a piece of the thing he loves most” and when Rowena mentions that Sam just sighs and goes “So does hair or blood count or do I need to start cutting off fingers?”

[rennothy-bo-bennothy]

Yeah I'm beating the fucking horse again, sorry.

Not to be a filthy liberal on main but "this thing makes me uncomfortable therefore it's morally wrong" is conservative logic. That's how people justify homophobia, transphobia, racism, whatever. And being queer or supportive of queer people does not magically make you immune to conservative logic. You are not owed comfort, things are going to make you uncomfortable and you have to be able to ask yourself "is this harming anyone?" And if the answer is no then you just go "ew, gross" and block wherever it's necessary and move on. And no, again, making you uncomfortable is not harming you.

Targeted harassment is harm, intentionally sending something to another person because you know it will upset them is harm, stumbling upon something you don't want to see is not harm, stop acting like you're the victim just because the entire internet won't bend to your will and stop posting things that make you feel icky.

[backroadcorpses]

[sunwurm]

sometimes i'm like yay i love being a sick pervert hooray and then somehow from four circles of mutuals away i see the victor wembanyama of freakdom shooting threes and i realize im not there at all im not even on a college team im playing a pick up game at the y on a weekday

[allshipsareok]

[zykamiliah-temporal]

i think we should bring this back (with some amendments ofc) if we ever needed an "internet etiquette" for the younger generations, now is the moment to remind them. purity culture kills fandom

as well as the three laws of fandom:

Don't Like, Don't Read (DL;DR), Your Kink is not My Kink And That's OK (YKINMKATO) and Ship and Let Ship

[sorcererofsolitude]

📣 Purity culture kills fandom! 📣

[atlinmerrick]

NO ONE LIVING hasn't been squicked out by something. There's over 7 billion of us, my delights and disgusts aren't universal. So I move on. Don't like the ship? Move on. Don't like____? Move on.

I am not an exception. Neither are you. I don't like it I move on and shut my gob about it because everyone everywhere is squicked out by something and they need to put the thing down and just…motor.

[rewordthis]

This but also:

Frames this entire post and hangs it over the fireplace.

[penny-anna]

anyway been writing omegaverse this week for the first time in uhh *checks notes* 11 years and have to say something i find interesting about it is that it's this like. frankly very normal fetish thing that's just breached containtment to a bizarre degree?

[penny-anna]

on 2 separate occasions i've had conversations with people where they've mentioned something they don't Get about omegaverse and I've been like 'well it's like that bcos it's a fetish thing' and they've been like 'it's a what??'

it gets treated as this like stock fandom AU and i'll see people like 'i don't understand why anyone wants to read this' and i'm like yes that's bcos it's pretty intense* fetish content & you don't have the right assortment of fetishes for it? there's a bunch of other similar Stock Settings that just haven't breached containment.

*intense as in like, Density of fetish content involved rather than intensity of fetish if that makes sense?

[beesechurger1909]

im alright with fetish ideas 'breaching containment' because then its less stigmatized but like its still fetish content and its a little perplexing how people could read omegaverse stuff and not realize its fetish content?

[penny-anna]

SO i think i've observed 2 separate but related things going on:

firstly the aforementioned demographic of people who have somehow genuinely failed to clock that it's a kink thing

but also a second demographic of people who seem to have taken its like. prominence in fandom spaces as a sign that they're somehow 'expected' to like it? i've not really seen this attitude with any other kink.

ppl will talk about it the way they might talk about say high school/college AUs or coffee shop AUs which are very common and i guess are sometimes presented as things that everyone finds fluffy & relatable? when in reality it's more like idk. piss kink. it'd be pretty weird to read a piss kink fic and go 'ewww why does the author expect me to find piss sexy??' well they don't. they expect people who already think piss is sexy to read the fic.

[penny-anna]

In the name of historical accuracy here is the actual origin point on omegaverse:

Obviously there was a process of development leading up to it but this kink meme prompt led to whats generally accepted as the OG. Ultimately the brain child of this anonymous poster. Have they ever identified themselves??

[penny-anna]

An important thing to remember here is that while I appreciate why some people find world building heavy omegaverse puzzling or irritating, the fact that someone is writing primarily or exclusively SFW social commentary w world building omegaverse does NOT mean it's not a kink thing for them. Maybe world building is their kink. You don't know.

[penny-anna]

this post is going around again so have an additional Thought:

the omegaverse belongs to an genre i have mentally dubbed 'speculative kink'. there are various other types of speculative kink; a well known example in fanfiction spaces is the dom/sub AU, a kind of precursor to omegaverse where the premise is 'what if everyone was biologically a dom or a sub'.

however: there various other shared speculative kink settings out there. unfortunately I cannot get into this too much without discussing some uhhh Devils Sacraments I have attended so you will have to trust me. but I'm aware of several other demographics out there doing speculative kink worldbuilding.

a major difference between omegaverse and the other speculative kink settings I'm aware of is that omegaverse takes itself much more seriously. omegaverse works are often aiming to be understood as serious commentary on gender roles with legitimate worldbuilding. in contrast other speculative kink is typically very open about the fact that the worldbuilding is complete nonsense that exists in service of getting to the kink as soon as possible.

this is something that I think really adds to the Confusion around it! to be clear I do not think it's a bad thing and the fact is, yes you can use kink to explore social themes. but there is sometimes an apparent contradiction between the implied aims of an omegaverse work (to comment on gender roles) and the basics of the setting (Turbo Gender Roles).

[dean-ness]

[mzcbhyff]

they belong to each other

[dailywincestspam]

“people on the outside of the Wincest/ Wincest adjacent bubble are like “so you think Sam and Dean want to have sex?”

and honestly I’m here like no, you absolute pedestrian. They want to crawl up inside each other and and occupy the same skin and exist away from the whisper of threat of feeling they ever have to compete with anyone or anything for one another’s devotion. And only one of them even realizes how fucked up that is.

If they wanted to have sex it would literally be more normal. That’s how insane they are”

- saint-wincest [x]

[godzillawillsaveus]

Supernatural

1.22 "Devil's Trap"

[mlobsters]

at long last, my project for searching youtube captions/transcripts is available publicly!

https://j2transcripts.org

i downloaded subtitles from every video in the playlist by Emily Kitchen, Every Jared & Jensen Panel (up to date 2026) and all of @detailtilted videos which have full and correct captions. current total is 591 transcripts.

you can search exact phrases by "search phrase in quotes", if you use multiple words not in quotes, it will only return things with every word in your search.

after you search, on the right under the three line button, you can open the filters. i labeled panels that were jared and jensen only as j2, their respective solo panels and everything else falls under others; which may include j2 as well or just one of them. once you click through to a panel, there's tags which includes the year, the con and the people.

i also include an embedded youtube video that the transcript came from. recommend find in page/ctrl-f if you're looking for a specific phrase/word because they often aren't super easy to read due to being largely based on the auto-generated captions (which are getting better all the time but a con panel environment isn't always great audio)

the numbers are the timestamps, so this one for example, you can go to the 6 minute mark in the video to find it.

for the case of gayled_it's videos, i fortunately downloaded the transcripts before her account got zapped so they are in here!

the gayle's archive link will take you to the relevant folder on the google drive that Kanata set up which an archive of all of her videos that we could track down (with approval from gayle), link to the drive in their twitter bio, also here. i preserved the original youtube link so you can use it in the wayback machine on archive.org as well, if needed/desired.

this is primarily for searching the transcripts, but it also serves kind of as a way to find videos in an organized fashion with the consistent tags for the cons, the people and years. hopefully it's useful on both fronts!

i'm working with @j2wiki on also combining their archive of transcriptions into this project, which are complete/readable. i'll keep everyone updated on that as it goes.

if you have any comments/questions/problems, feel free to send me a dm, ask or leave a comment. everything is open. :)

[krisonthefrontporchwithabeer]

We're gonna find an ethical way to steal organs from people and sew them into each other for eternity I promise. Let's just go ahead with the organ harvesting first though just to get a head start

[sam-loml]

ARE YOU KIDDING MEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!