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With all the inconsistencies in RWBY, I would never say it’s a general rule, but I noticed how characters we all assumed to be badass/awesome/intriquing/cool tend to grow exponentially not that the more we see them.

Consider the Branwens, who suffer from this by far the most.

Qrow was just mentioned first to train Ruby, then there where the saving Yang and Ruby stuff, all is right.

But then he showes up, he is drunk, he provokes a pointless fight, blames it on Winter, treats her like a total douche, then he first baits Ruby to go to Mistral and uses them as bait which almost ends up in their demise, gets pissdrunk when Ozpin /Oscar arrives… Sure, he is still a badass, but boi, is he not cool now. Drunk uncles never are, trust me, I am one.

But still, he is still better off than Raven Dementia D’arkness Branwen. Before Vol. 4, she was just as much of an enigma as Salem or Oz to a lesser extent. We weren’t even sure she was alive before vol.2, then she saves Yang, scares the hell out of Neo, cuts a portal in spacetime, she looks cool and hot, wow!!! so many questions were raised! What is her deal, how did she knew Yang was in trouble, what is her goal, why did she left Yang if she still cares and protects etc.

Then she showes up again. The one save rule. That whole purposefully-cryptic-for-no-reason conversation. The staggering levels of of hypocrisy. All that somewhat chipped at her character.

But boy oh boy, now, nothing is anywhere near epic or cool or awesome about her. She spouts the most embarrasingly hypocritical bullshit of the entire show, she is voiced by one of the worst VA of the cast, even her portalcutting got reduced to being able to visit her family real cheap and fast. She is also a criminal and not even a good one. Raiding settlements, really? She is the equivalent of a guy with a gun and a skimask, she should be look up to Roman.

I mean what is the point of robbing people if you live like a freaking hobo. The old dude probably lives a luxurious life compared to them. His hencmen are so inept a halftrained teenager beats the shit out of them and the only reason they are even alive and kicking is the staggering incompetence of the government of Mistral. How fucking hard would be to assembly a squadron of airplanes and carpetbomb the shit out of them literally hours after they raid a settlement, which would be able to contact the capital.

She has the Maiden. Qrow I think knew that. That means Ozpin knew that too. Yet she is allowed to keep her? For ten years? How? Why?

How the fuck MKG manages to find the worst, lamest possible way with them?

Well, them, and with almost everything else, too.

blakjakxxi

I’ll admit that I actually did like Qrow when he was first introduce in Volume 3, and he was perhaps among my top 5 favorites. What did heavily ruin him for me though was that dumb bad luck semblance. For one, for how arbitrary and unclear it seems to function. Secondly, it makes so many of his actions and behavior come off as nonsensical at best, and dangerously negligent at worst, and makes his character a giant mess now.

Can’t really comment on Raven.

luffy-the-hokage

@lycanheiress

lycanheiress

Ehhhhh, I think, that was the point? Dismantling the characters we previously thought of as “cool” and just having them be… your regular douchebags. They’re not cool at all.

I don’t have an opinion on that. I never found them cool. They’re both assholes.

Qrow. While Qrow might be an shitty person, he still cares very much about his family, he watches over Ruby in their exodus to Mistral. He doesn’t bait Ruby… he.. he gives her the choice to do something, if she really wanted to. Just like when he gave info about Raven to Yang, he wasn’t really telling her to go after her. He gave her a choice to use that info however she wished.

“But letting a child do that is irresponsible!“

Yeah, it is. I think he believes that throwing a baby into the water is the best way for it to learn how to swim. He watched over her while she went to Mistral, at least, to make sure she doesn’t die.

He’s not the best adult, he’s got several huge issues, and he’s an asshole, but I’m pretty sure he care’s about his nieces.

Raven. Before we see Raven on the train, we already knew she was an asshole. Yang tells Blake about how she left them, way before the train fight happened. She saves Yang, and I guess that makes people say, “Whoa! Does she actually care about Yang?” and then Qrow tells us she had a one-save rule in V3.

In V4, its revealed that she left Yang because she deemed the tribe to be more important than her family. Her tribe is her family. Taiyang and Yang, they’re not as important as the people who raised her, the place she was born in.

It’s revealed that she leads a tribe of bandits. I dunno if you’d consider them weak, or whatever, but its what her people do to survive. They do raids. That is their way of life. I don’t know what makes you say she’s not a good criminal.

Just because their settlement doesn’t seem luxurious to you doesn’t mean it isn’t great for them. Her people seem to respect and like her a lot. They seem to be happy with their lives.

But she’s incredibly standoffish to Yang. She’s a bitch, and she’s, yeah, she’s a hypocrite. But then also, she tells Yang that she knows a lot about her, things that she’s seen with her own eyes. Yang comments that she’s seen her bird form before, so that could mean Raven keeps a watch on Yang a lot.

It’s also worth noting that Raven tries to make Yang stay with her, and move her out of the danger that is the war between Salem and Oz.

I don’t like how you say that her portals are “reduced” to visiting family members. Why is it bad? Is visiting family members bad? How does this one requirement make her whole semblance weak?

I wouln’t know how she forms a “bond” with someone, if it’s voluntary or involuntary, but wither way it means that Raven’s semblance connects her to her family, in some way.

“But she doesn’t even visit her family!“

Debatable. Yang says she’s seen the bird before, who’s to say she doesn’t constantly use her semblance to visit her without her knowing? Plus, Raven says she knows a lot about Yang and her teammates.

Staggering incompetence of the kingdom of Mistral. If I recall correctly, Mistral has been trying to track down Raven’s tribe for a long while. Villages far out of Mistral City’s borders probably have a harder time contacting the city. Even Kuroyuri, which was close enough to Mistral to be reached by airships on patrol, wasn’t able to call the city for help.

Assembling a fleet of ships to bomb an area might be harder than you’d expect. Mistral isn’t exactly as technologically powerful as Atlas.

Though yes, the Mistral council might just be incompetent.

The main camp moves around from time to time, according to Leo’s comment about it “scattering to the wind” and Qrow probably only knew where it was either because of his own investigations, or because Raven told him.

I think Qrow only figured out Raven had the Spring Maiden after their meeting during V4. He saw the damage in Shion, and when he brings it up with Raven, the shock is clear on her face.

In other words, no, they probably didn’t know Raven had her for the past 10 years.

tl;dr: Qrow and Raven are both assholes, and while Qrow might’ve seemed “cool” before we knew him, his actions when he was first introduced threw that image out of the window, and the way he acts constantly proves how much of a mess he is. He abandoned his former life as a killer and thief, and decided, here is where I belong now. He’s sided with Ozpin and he seems to want to protect the world, no matter how much of a damn mess his attitude and life is.

Raven is introduced as an asshole, and I don’t know what you people were expecting from a woman who left her husband and daughter to take care of a tribe of killers. Note that these killers were the ones who raised her, fed her, and sheltered her. She sided with Oz, once. But she quickly left when she realized she was gonna get mixed in with things bigger than what she was ready for.

They’re not perfect people but.. eh, what are you expecting, honestly, from two children who were raised by bandits?

santaclausdeadindian

Pointing out they are assholes wasn’t what my post was about.

but come on, he dropped the intel he is heading to Mistral, then waited until Rubes and the inexplicably present remains of JNPR start out, then he followed them covertly until the point he had to intervene.

This raises the question why he didn’t contacted them, just let them dick around on the continent cluelessly. Yeah, I know, his semblance, it brings bad luck, curiously tho, he still trained Ruby to the point that she became a prodigy who gets into the most prestigous combat school on remnant. That takes more time, than say, dropping into their camp every now and then, or maybe even (gasp!), telling them where the nearest trainstation is. What is the point of that? It’s not like they have all the time in the world, he knows the enemy is making moves. He was using them as bait.

Btw, what was even the point of that, if not capturing Salem’s mook? He has been to Mistral before, he knows better than let his niece frolick in the bushes for half a year.

On Raven. I didn’t think she was an asshole before vol.3, because all we knew she left Tai and Yang shortly after she was born. We knew nothing else, and her appearance on the train kinda showed she cares somewhat. It would have actually made sense if she has that stupid bad luck charm, tbh. Then vol4 happened. And that nonsensical rule.

Her tribe consist of a bunch of washed up assholes, Yang effortlessly beats half a dozen into submission, and she isn’t even a huntress yet. So yeah, I do consider them weak. She is probably powerful, and so is Vernal, but that’s it. Their gimmick is raiding sttlement, then disappear into the wild, okay. Why? They don’t seem to gain much wealth, judging by their looks and their camp. Do they just want to live free from government? Like, I dunno, the folks did in Koruyuri? Why not make their own village? Is it truly a great life living under constant threat of both the grimm and the humans? it’s just doesn’t make any sense. Before we saw them I was ready for some powerful bunch of fighter, defying both sides and now we have a bunch of pathetic weasels following a cultleader, because I don’t see any other reasonable explanation to why would they live like that otherwise, or why would Raven even bother with them in the first place.

I say it has been reduced, because before we all thought she can cut portals, period. Now she can cut portals to exactly three places, whereever her estranged ex, her twin who sided with her enemy and her daughter, who wasn’t even sure she was still alive is being. So, yeah, a reduction.

Also, on Mistrals incompetence. The CCtower still works on the continent. Scrolls are a thing. They have airships. They can make dust go boom. What else you need for bombing? Or sniping from above. Or establishing a designated strike force to deal with the assholes who keep bringing death and doom to their settlements. The fact that Kuroyuri was attacked by them and there was still no response is proof how bad they are at their job, or rather how bad the worldbuilding is. They move their camp around a lot, sure. And? They don’t have a fleet of airships to lift their stuff, they probably use land vehicles tops. She can’t use her portals to get them away quickly, which would have been the only plausible explanation how they are getting away with it.

On the Qrow knowing she has Vernal I was wrong, I missed that part, tho can you blame me not being able to pay full attention during these borefests of volumes lately? Point retracted.

I didn’t say I her wanted to be good, and Qrow is on the side that is supposed to be the good one, I don’t have any problems with Raven being a murderer. My point was that the more the writers dwell on a character, the lamer they make it due to bad writing and inconsistent world and characterbuilding. She is bad at being bad.

I didn’t say anything like” she didn’t even visit her family”, maybe someone else’s comment.

tl,dr: I don’t know how to summarise my thoughts, I was using baroque roundabout sentences since elementary. Also I lost my train of thoughts. I think we kinda agreed on most things.

lycanheiress

On Qrow letting them fuck around for half a year: they were looking for transportation, iirc they were asking that one village if they knew where to get an airship. The reason why Oscar was able to take a train, I think, was because he simply lived closer to Mistral, whereas Ruby and the rest were considerably further.

Also he didn’t drop the info that he was heading to Mistral. He said Cinder escaped to Mistral, based on the info they got of her.

And RNJR had a map, up until the time they dropped one too many, but by that time they were close enough to the city to catch the attention of the patrols. So no, I don’t think they were aimlessly meandering around Anima.

I also don’t think Qrow was using them as bait. Normally, when you set up a trap, you watch your bait closely so you can nab the target as soon as possible.

When Ruby was attacked, Qrow was very late to the scene, and he also looked considerably frantic. He wasn’t able to react immediately, and that, for me, already proves he’s not using them to bait out one of Salem’s accomplices.

Instead of attacking from behind, while the target was distracted by the ‘bait’, Qrow opts to protect the bait instead. That’s not how you use an opportunity given to you by your ‘bait’. Jaune was talking out of his ass when he said ‘He’s using you as bait’ back in V4.

Of course, if it’s revealed that he was actually using them as bait then I’d be eating my words, but like, still, that’s a very inefficient way to use your bait.

I can’t explain why Qrow covertly follows them, other than his semblance, when he actually used to teach children, and even taught Ruby how to use a huge scythe.

One possibility is that, attracting bad luck whilst within the the kingdom’s walls and borders is very different from attracting bad luck whilst outside of the kingdom’s protection. In other words, the ‘bad luck’ he attracts within the kingdom’s walls is probably stuff he’s used to dealing with (falling objects, breaking things, etc.) while if he attracts bad luck outside the walls, that probably means attracting grimm like the Nucklavee.

But thats just my take on it. It’s just a possibility.

Raven’s tribe is more or less like the White Fang. They consist mainly of grunts who aren’t particularly strong, aside from the ones who are named. They get kicked around by the main cast, and kicked around by grimm.

I don’t think they do raids simply to be wealthy. Like I said, this is how their tribe lives, and killing and robbing others is probably a tradition of sorts. They’re barbarians, basically. This is their way of life. They’re like a village, just like Kuroyuri and Shion, but they’d attack other villages to get supplies and whatnot.

Why Raven would bother with the tribe in the first place. Simple, they raised her. She was born in that tribe. She considers them family. She’s not in it for wealth or luxury, she’s there because these are her people, these people are her family.

I dunno about you, but the fact that Raven abandoned her family marks her as an asshole to me, especially as in that same volume, she’s revealed to be able to visit them whenever she wanted, and even kept a tight enough surveillance on her that she knew exactly when she needed help. (That could be evidence of her caring a lot abt Yang? idk.) Raven’s one-time rule was also introduced in V3, iirc. She still cares about Yang, if you squint at her pitiful attempts at recruiting her in V5. So maybe she’s not as much of an asshole as she could be?

Back to Mistral’s incompetence. Sadly, the CCT doesn’t work, unless all four towers are operational. Local relay towers are still operational, but I doubt those could pass the message to the city in time.

A thing about these villages outside the kingdoms is that, they’ve been known to disappear overnight to bandits and grimm. It’s not uncommon, so I don’t think that they’re high on the council’s list of priorities. Sure, huntsmen are sent there from time to time to protect them, but that certainly didn’t really help Shion any.

Even before the Fall of Beacon, I think they still couldn’t just bomb the bandits, especially when they didn’t even know where they were. Something Raven said in V5 makes me think that they do hire hunters to track the Branwen Tribe down, but Raven probably kills them off once they do. Even if the hunter figured out where they were camped, the tribe could just move to another place.

I suspect Raven can link to more people than just the three we know about. She probably has a link to someone in the main camp, and considering the fact that there is such a thing as a main camp, there must be other camps as well, where Raven has a link to. If the main camp were to be attacked, I’d think it’d be easy for Raven to create a portal to another camp, and just escape to there.

Oh, and uh, I wasn’t quoting you, I was trying to quote a possible rebuttal for that one argument.

A lot of characters in RWBY are badly written, but I don’t think its because ‘the more the writers dwell on them, the lamer they become’? Take Weiss for example, she’s someone they spent a long time on, and she’s easily the coolest, best character in the show, totally not biased at all. It’s joke pls dont kill me.

I think its because they were written to be a particular way, and the writers simply aren’t good enough to portray that properly, to the point that they feel like awful caricatures of what they’re supposed to be.

The Branwen twins, for one, I don’t feel like they’re inconsistent. They’ve been pretty consistent, Qrow maybe not so much, mainly because his attitude and bad luck thing contradicts his previous occupation as a teacher, and the fact that he taught Ruby.

Their lines are very…. cringey. Raven’s in particular. But that’s not a character inconsistency, thats just…. poor word choice. :’D

santaclausdeadindian

This is getting long enough to reach the moon.

Why the hell didn’t he tell them where to go, which port to sail? For half a year, they can’t get to a place with a trainstation? Seeing the train Oscar boarded didn’t looked like it was developed by James Watts, it’s fair to assume it’s a technology that is around for quite a while. The very veins of industrial development. And not a single one of them connects to a commercial harbour? Bullshit.

Also, airships exist. And cars. And motorcycles. And bicycles. Horses. He is an adult, who worked for decades for the great Ozpin, one of the most influental person in the world and he can’t cough up enough cash to get them to Mistral? Btw, what was the point of getting Rubes there again? To have a trumpcard against Cinder, nothing else. So is he using her, yes. There is no reasonable explanation other than using her as a bait. None. Other then, the writers being terrible at their jobs. Which is probably the true reason.

And yeah, normally he wouldn’t be almost late from the fight, but hey, your character can only be as competent as your writing. They wanted him to make a last second save because that is the level they are at, a cool pose trumps logic every time.

And what if they had a map? They clearly didn’t use it like anyone would, as in figuring out the shortest, safest route to their destination. Also, the CCT system still works inside anima, as we saw even before vol.4 started. It would have cost him nothing to call them and tell them where to go. Instead he opted for following them on the scenic route, it’s not like the world is ending or anything.

See, he didn’t have to be with them in person, if he was so concerned suddenly about his stupid semblance. Btw, he wasn’t concerned Ruby accidently cutting her nipple off while he trained her…

I’m sorry, I just can’t with Raven and her stupid tribe, their feaking existance is just makes no sense. I might return to that, but I don’t have it in me right now.

I still don’t think leaving your family automaticly makes you an asshole, for example in Full Metal Alchemist the main characters dad fucked off when they were little and they resented him like crazy for it, but it turned out he did have a legit reason. Now in the case of Raven she is an absolute asswipe, but we didn’t know it untill vol.4. Sure, we learned in vol.3 she probably won’t do it again, but there were still a possibility of some mind blowing revelation (I was still hardcore delusional at that point), which of course turned out to be the lamest, most nonsensical reason, the one save rule. Nevermind that survival of the fittest is bullshit when it comes down to humanity here, let alone in a world that not taking care of your weak will definetly result in more harm coming in the form of grimm. Did you know that even prehistoric tribes took care of their maimed, who were a burden on them?

If we allow that Raven has bonds with other peeps, which I see now is likely, that explains why are they still on the loose, but not the abscence of the designated strike force, to at least deal with the grimm that follows their raids. Also, the relay towers can’t get the distress signals through in time? Ruby had a real time conversation with her team, they don’t have to use smokesigns.

And to think that a bunch of assholes this morally bankrupt never ever snitched? Ever? Not a single one? Really? With the way they live, how their shit looks like, there was never an astronomical bounty on them to get someone to rat them out? With a pardon, of course? We are arriving back at incompetence again. Both in universe and in worldbuilding.

The WF at least has a goal in universe, their goal is to survive in the most atrocious way possible, commiting crimes against humanity on a weekly basis, because they don’t like to pay taxes and sleep in beds. Every statement you made about their way of life can be followed up with a Why? And all the answers are Just because. That’s shitty writing.

I still think the more focus a character gets the worse off they are, because they are that bad at their job. Look, I love Weiss, but her vol.4 arc consisted of sitting on her ass for half a year in her room, then mustering up the courage to defy her father and leave Atlas, aka the very thing she did prior Vol.1. And sure, there was that cringy as fuck scene with her putting that stereotypical as fuck rich bitch in her place, but it’s not like we didn’t know she cares and has a lot of passion about injustices, like when she was enraged when Blake wasn’t ready to automaticaly believe Yang. She developed not an ounce in that “arc” imo, all she did was getting good at summoning after her dad slapped her and showed us her quite insane levels of commitment to high heels. It was a nice look into her life before we first saw her, nothing else. To be honest, at least she didn’t get worse, that’s an achievement in on itself.

To summarise all this, the show needs an entirely new writing team.

lycanheiress

I honestly don’t mind much if this reaches the moon, it’s nice discussing stuff like this.

Iirc, grimm attack man made structures if they can find it, so if you have a railway track that stretches across the continent, its most definitely going to be attacked a lot. Not to mention bandits. You’d have to devote a lot of soldiers and hunters to protecting every mile of it. Manpower that Mistral can’t spare, not after the Fall of Beacon.

So even if there was a train going from the port straight to Mistral, they’d have to put it out of commission. Forgetting to explicitly mention this in the narrative is bad writing. You shouldn’t let your audience do the thinking for you.

As an audience who is doing some thinking, you should also investigate if ‘inconsistencies’ really are inconsistencies, and not just lacking some explicit explanation that was covered in previous episodes.

Patch is located off the west shore of Sanus, and the city of Mistral is located on the east side of Anima. It wouldn’t be too far reaching if I theorize Ruby and the rest only spent three months or so on Anima, and spent the first few months traversing the width of Sanus. Three months and not being able to find a village with long distance transport seems more believable.

Ozpin is not one of the most influential persons in the world. Not overtly, that is. Oz being the one to actually control all four academies is kind of a big secret. So I doubt that Qrow would have tons of dough just because he’s working for Ozpin.

Even if he could give them money, what are they gonna use it on if the villages don’t have airships? Will the villagers really just sell their motorcycles, horses, and bikes (if they have any) to a bunch of teenagers, knowing that these transportation devices help them in their livelihoods, and in the event of a grimm or bandit attack, could help them get away?

Maybe the villagers could lend it to them, they could say like ‘I can take you this far,’ or 'You can borrow my vehicle, but you have to leave it where I can pick it up again later’, but in either case it’s back to walking for RNJR after the vehicle’s been used. Note that renting a vehicle can probably only take them so far, because they of course have to make sure the guy who lent it gets it back. It’s just not worth, imo, unless its an airship, but like it’s already been said that they were looking for an airship and couldn’t find one.

Qrow isn’t using Ruby.

Remember that Ruby went to Mistral on her own, because she wanted to look for answers, and when Qrow explained to her what was gonna happen in Mistral, Ruby wanted to go there to protect the people. Ruby isn’t being used by Qrow, she’s doing all of this out of her own volition. Qrow is just not stopping her.

Qrow isn’t getting Ruby to Mistral to use her as a weapon, Qrow is letting Ruby go to Mistral because Ruby wants to go to Mistral.

If he was trying to get her to go to Mistral just to use her against Cinder, wouldn’t he be the one leading their merry band instead of hiding and watching from a distance?

He’s not using her. Ruby wants to go to Mistral so she can warn Haven of the impending attack.

And what makes you think they’re weren’t using the map to follow the shortest and safest route? For all we know, the villages they’ve been passing through so far might’ve been in a straight line heading directly into Mistral.

Qrow hanging back and letting them work means that they probably are taking the best route. We don’t know. We can only work with probabilities. Most probably, they’re taking the best route, since Qrow didn’t bother correcting them.

He could’ve texted them, could’ve called, but why would he do that when they’re already following the correct route? There’s no evidence to suggest that what they were taking wasn’t the correct route.

So yeah, thats just a possibility: What if they were actually on the right path this whole time?

The thing with Raven’s tribe is that they consider each other close-knit family, if Raven’s attitude towards them, and their attitude towards her, is any indication. They wouldn’t betray family.

Raven’s one-save rule doesn’t seem nonsensical to me. Whimsical, maybe, she wants Yang to grow strong on her own, but give her a chance to live if she fucks up just one time. She’s very theatrical and dramatic. It’s further evidenced in V5 when they meet and Raven makes sweeping gestures and bold declarations.

Raven’s whole suvival of the fitttest thing probably stems from her nature as a 'predator’ of sorts. She hunts villages that are 'weak’, i.e, defenseless. The villages are weak, and her tribe is strong. I don’t think she means it literally, like if someone gets hurt/wounded, she won’t take care of them, or w/e.

Yeah, their goal is to simply survive. They’re barbarians, not a bunch of rebels. They’re not doing what they do because they don’t want to live in the city, they do what they do because that’s how their society works. I don’t see how that’s so bamboozling. A tribe of barbarians living in the forest? How unrealistic! Fantastical! Absolutely unbelievable!

You talk about Weiss sitting in her room like she wasn’t recovering from the Fall of Beacon, like she just decided to go home and chill, because she wanted to. And like she’s defying her father again, because she feels like it. Totally not like she was depressed, or anything, cuz her friends are dead or missing, or like she feels hopeless because it seems like she’ll never be fully out of her father’s control, or anything.

The difference between what Weiss did pre-V1 and Weiss’ arc in V4 is that, Weiss pre-V1 attended Beacon to be away from her father, to work towards her goal of becoming a huntress before she had to go back and succeed him. Weiss in V4 is escaping her father. She’s not just being far away from him, she’s cutting ties with him indefinitely.

There’s a difference between 'fuck you, dad, I’m gonna do it anyway,’ and 'fuck you, dad, you’re dead to me’.

And if you can’t even see that, then I guess you really don’t pay attention to the show or its characters at all, and it’s pointless to have this conversation with you.

The writing is bad, yeah. But let’s not ignore canon facts that could possibly give reason as to why certain things happen.

santaclausdeadindian

Do you perchance know how to put stuff under a cut? Cuz, I don’t.

Dude every point you have can be easily tracked back to bad worldbuilding. I am done finding excuses for the writers, I did it for years.

I don’t recall if the grimm attacks man made structures, but seeing how most of the structures are still in a relatively good shape in the destroyed settlements RRNJ happens on and even that colony beacon had, has most of the structures standing and that place is crawling with grimm of all types and sizes. Remember the tiny Nevermores? They were nesting inside a house. The big ones weren’t tearing shit up either. I vaguely remeber that the WoR episode on them said they do, but when it’s come to the show, the opposite is shown. Bad worldbuilding.

Why would bandits destroy a trainline? To sell the steel? Robbing one, sure, that still happens in real life, but there is no reason for them to do that.

If there was a train from a port to Mistral? Well, if there isn’t one, than it’s bad worldbuilding (BW, from now on). They have ticket automats. To bullettrains. but they never bothered to connect their fricking capital to world trade, come on!

What if the port is on the opposite side of the continent? Shipping routes are rarely straight lines between continents, ships can go wherever, and they go where the money is. Also, I am currently sitting on my ass in Central Europe, but if I wanted to go to say, Chile, I would buy a ticket there, not just to Suriname and then ask for directions. Cuz what they did is exactly like that. And I would even allow it and chalk it up for them being somehow the stupidest teenagers ever, seeing that three of them already made an intercontinental trip, two of them orphans with no outside resources, but whatever. BW.

Now that I think of it, Jaune mentioned he used to go with his family on holidays to Oniyuri or something right? So isn’t he from Mistral too? Where his family lives? Or if he is from Vale, than he already did the trip several times. So why the utter stupidity? Blake, dumb as she is, went straight to Menagerie. Them tickets can’t be that expensive. BW.

Yeah, the world in large doesn’t know Oz is so influental, what I meant is it’s very implausible Qrow can’t buy them four tickets to a cruise ship, that goes to a port that is connected to Mistral. Also, presumably Remnant isnt flat, so just go west and voilá, you Magellaned your way there. Tracking through the continent on foot cannot possibly be the shortest route, and definetly not the safest. That’s what I meant about Qrow giving them money. They can’t fricking find a place with an airport. Meanwhile, there is a fucking floating stadium in Beacon, complete with forcefields but Mistral can’t afford a network of intracontinental airbases? BW.

All the above makesme think they either don’t follow the right route, because Qrow is using them, ‘cuz there is no explanation for him to do so otherwise. Or, you know, incompetent writers can’t come up with anything for them, so they pad a whole season with filler, except for the Ren/Nora backstory, which, generic as it was counts for me as the one okay part of vol.4.

I think you might have a slight bias towards Qrow (I sure have one against him). Point is, I won’t bend over backwards anymore to explain away inconsistencies like this. I have the opinion that the writers are very very incompetent, the whole series gives me plenty of examples for that.

Apart from Raven and her ability to get her tribe away from authorities real quick and without a trace, which i’ll admit should be the only reason they aren’t caught yet, the whole banditry stuff makes no sense to me, but hardly anything ever does in this show.

In a world where negative emotions attract a deadly enemy that fears no death and will attack without provocation these kind of behaviours shouldn’t even exist. Mankind had to discover Dust, before that they were little more than prey, so how come there is racism since time immemorial, not to mention a primitive culture would way more likely to worship guys who can freaking fly, but i digress.

The very fact that these guys live in the Grimm infested wilderness and their MO consist of causing pain sorrow and hate every other day, is kinda sorta contradictory with the established rules of this world. And the explanation is they are just like that, that’s what they do. Would you do something extremely dangerous to you and your “family” as a living, that is also basicaly a death sentence to a ton of people, for gains like living in a tent? Shitting in the woods?

Do you think it’s plausible that not one of them turned against this “ideology”? Not one of them looked upon the horror they brought to the innocent and thought to themselves: Wow, e might just be the worst shitbags in the whole world? There were nazis who turned cloak when faced with the reality and they were better off then these bandits, when they weren’t in an active combat zone.

Hey, freaking Qrow did! And if not for a turn of heart, than for bounty. Am i supposed to believe that they are immoral enough that they commit crimes against humanity but they draw a line at ratting out the “family”?

A bunch of barbarians sitting in the woods and robbing people in a fantasy setting isn’t at all implausible, but it is in this specific world.

Qrow not interacting with them because they are on the right route only stands if the world is nonsensical.

also, i rewatched the scene with Ruby and Qrow. He said he has to pick up where Oz left and Ruby says she is special so she wants to help. To which he replies she needs rest, she is in no condition to do that right now, and besides, the trail of our enemies leads all the way to haven and that’s quite a trip for a pipsqueack like her. Next time we see him is when Ruby sets out with her new team and he follows them untill The Cackler attacks. How is that not baiting is beyond me. Well, I have an explanation. Shitty writing.

The last part. I see you got a bit defensive there, again, i love Weiss, I just don1t think that her vol.4 part was any good.

Yeah, I guess, she is now cutting ties with Pornstache for good, but it’s not like she was even answering his calls before. It wasn’t unbearable like the entirety of the Blake part, or excrutiatingly boring like the majority of RRNj’s, or frustrating and offensive like Yang’s, of which I have a personal grudge with as one with severe PTSD. For me it was meh. The song was the first from her since the trailers and the magic of that was nowhere for me. The Whitley part felt like an unnecessary addition, that went nowhere so far and likely never will. I found Klein was okay, if a bit unsettling, but at least we saw she wasn’t entirely unloved her whole life. I just felt they did nothing of note with her or with the setting. This was the first time we saw Atlas and all they shown us is the interior of their mansion. They could have went so many better ways, I was hoping prior vol.4, the Xiao Longs will go there to get Yang the best prosthetic, they could have run into her while she is giving out autographs (wouldn’t she be like one of the biggest celebrities there? Like Paris Hilton only talented and awesome?), they could have run into Cole or Katt while unboarding their ship and inform the viewers about the impending shutdown of exports in an organic way there, and not while Weiss eavedroppes for no reason while she escapes (in her clickity-clack high heels, gotta love her dedication to fashion). They could have shown us her mom instead of an another pointless male character like Whitley, she could have balatantly flirted with Tai just to show us how loveless that marriage is, they could have together stop a WF attentat so the plotthreads get together any or all of the above and more. She could have summoned a giant knight sit on it’s shoulder and walk through the front wall while flipping off her dad, freaking whatever. Instead we got this almost nothing, imo.

And where the fuck was Winter? Why she wasn’t around at all, she could have at least attended the charity ball, but instead we got discount Neptune.

You started with this is nice, conversing like this, but by the end you say it’s pointless ‘cuz I ignore canon facts.

I don’t, I just see them in a different light. You can see I might spent all my waking hours some time headcanoning about her.

But seriously, how one puts stuff under a cut, this is gonna take half an hour to scroll through, people gonna burn us at a stake.

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I mean it’s nice to converse, but I find that it’s pointless if you do ignore canon facts just to say bad worldbuilding. It’s bad writing to let the audience infer and make excuses for them like this, but it’s not exactly bad worldbuilding, that is; it’s not exactly completely unexplainable.

Cuts are Ctrl + Shift + K on desktop, but uhhhhhh I dunno how to do them on mobile. Which I am using. Right now. Sorry.

Winter was assigned to Mistral, so she’s not home. Ironwood says that.

Weiss not answering her father’s calls is very different from her completely up and leaving him. There’s keeping someone at arm’s length, and then there’s running away from them at top speed.

Neither Yang nor Weiss would be in any shape to go outside, imo. Both of them were depressed and recovering from the Fall. Yang didn’t even want the prosthetic when it arrived. Also, Atlas was closing its borders. No one was getting in or out. Ironwood presumably shipped the arm to Yang before he declared that.

I mean if you don’t find it interesting that’s not any of my business, but I will fight you if you say she went absolutely nowhere. And I also feel like the Atlas storyline is far from over. But we’ll see.

It’s not baiting. Qrow was just letting Ruby do what she wants. And helping her do it. Qrow not intervening at all until Tyrian attacks isn’t true. He actually takes care of the smaller grimm for them. Jaune makes a comment about how they haven’t met a lot of grimm and it cuts to Qrow killing a beowulf and pans out to reveal dozens of beowulf corpses behind him. He’s watching over Ruby and her friends, not forcing her to go to Mistral.

It’s probably irresponsible to let a child do what she wants like that, but Qrow isn’t exactly the most responsible adult. The world is about to go to war, so if a bunch of kids want to try their hand at stopping it, then, by all means, please.

Again, the Branwen Tribe is a tribe, not a gang. They’re more than just a collection of random criminals. They were born and raised together in that group. If anyone betrayed them, Raven, or someone else probably takes care of them and then they’d just scatter again. How would barbarians handle traitors? They kill them, probably. Qrow mentions that the Spring Maiden being loyal to Raven has gotten her a lot of followers. The tribe respects her, respects the Spring Maiden. Or fears their power. Either way, I doubt that they just go 'oh no, we’ve been betrayed! what do we do’ when someone rats out their position. They probably have a system.

“Bullshit, they can’t survive like this, for this long!”

But they have. And there’s a lot of possibilities why. They’re good at escaping. They’re good at covering their tracks. They’re good enough.

Iirc they use the grimm kind of like weapons. They attack a village, steal their crap, and when the grimm come in, they leave. They’re probably good at masking their own emotions during raids so that the grimm don’t follow them. They cause pain and sorrow to others, not themselves. They let grimm attack a village and hightail it out of there so that while the hunters/village militia are busy with grimm, they can get away.

You can’t use your own morals as a basis for what their morals could be. 'Crimes against humanity’ isn’t a thing for them. There’s no collective 'humanity’. It’s either the tribe, or outsiders. It’s either you survive, or you don’t. It’s awfully simple. If you can survive one of their raids, good for you. If you can’t, then that’s too bad.

Qrow used to be one of them, but someone managed to open his eyes to the bigger world. Raven saw what the outside world was like, and she decided she wanted her simple life back.

These humans live in a world where monsters kill them just because. Everyone gets killed, but some people die later than others. People are given the choice to either cooperate or compete, you either work together with others to step up, or you beat others so that you can step up, and Raven’s chosen to compete. It’s not a hard concept.

You wanna know who else lives in a grimm infested wilderness? Villages outside the city walls. Except they can’t move around as easily as the ones who live in tents, and aren’t combat ready enough to fight against grimm when they come.

I dunno if you find that I have a slight bias against Qrow, but all I’ve done really is to just try to explain what’s happening other than just saying Bad Writing/Worldbuilding.

Qrow’s only inconsistency is the fact that he used to teach children when he’s an alcoholic asshole who brings bad luck. I can’t explain that. He says he’s retired, so I suppose he picked up drinking sometime after that. But in V1 you will recall Ruby saying he’s a teacher at Signal. Present tense. So that’s weird. Anyway.

Racism since time immemorial. I wouldn’t know about that. Humans used to fear the faunus, because they looked human, but had qualities of beasts. Then they found out that they could work together, and they weren’t so different after all. And then someone decided to use them as slaves.

Kind of like how at some point in time people used to trade with other people for resources, and then at some point someone decided that human trafficking was the new hip and cool thing.

At some point people just viewed faunus as subhuman. People who lived in the cities most probably got so complacent in their defences that if any grimm was attracted to the negativity following racism, the border defences could take care of it easy. So they continue with their racism. And since majority of the people don’t feel bad for the faunus, the negativity generated by it is negligible, especially in a large city.

Vacuo, which has a harsher climate than the rest, found it integral to cooperate with faunus to survive, especially after they got fucked over by Atlas, and they didn’t have proper defences following that war. So instead of tempting the grimm to their oasis with racism, they opted not to take any chances with that.

You can’t magellan your way to Mistral from Vale.You could do it from Vacuo, I suppose, but not from Vale.Just going west from Vale would take you to Vacuo. From Vacuo you’d have to sail a bit more to get to Mistral. Doesn’t seem like a short route to me. That’s assuming all discoverable continents have already been discovered in Remnant. Just going east would probably be faster. And would you rather go through a forest, or a desert, and then a forest? Dunno about you, but I’d prefer just the forest.

Sure, they could’ve just taken a plane to Mistral, but I’m pretty sure the Vaelian planes are busy with evacuation and reconstruction work, in the wake of the Fall. Or Mistrali planes simply refuse to travel to Vale right now, cuz it just got attacked. When countries irl get attacked by terrorists, don’t they disallow travel to it?

You could make the argument that they could’ve taken an evacuation plane out of Vale, but iirc people aren’t evacuating to other kingdoms, they’re just evacuating to safer parts of the kingdom.

The floating colliseum at Beacon is an effort by all the kingdoms. It’s not something Vale afforded alone. I actually think Atlas funded most of it, but either way, the other kingdoms helped too.

Sure, Blake took a ship to Menagerie. Menagerie is just straight southeast off the east coast of Sanus.RNJR also took a ship to Anima. After getting off the ship, it’s back to walking. Guess who also did that? Yang. She took a ship to Anima, and made the rest of her journey on land.

It’s probably faster to travel straight across land, than to go all the way north on a ship, then loop around to the other side of the continent, and then finally get to Mistral. Things start to get a bit fuzzy in the timelines in V4, events in the same episode might not actually be happening at the same time. That’s bad screenplay and planning. But either way, they meet at the same point in time. It’s lazy but w/e.

Jaune went to vacations in Shion. So yeah, he’s probably made the trip a few times already. So that’s another point to RNJR most probably taking the correct route. They have someone with them who’s gotten as far as Shion, at least.

What utter stupidity? The only utter stupidity here is you not seeming to know where these places are, at all.

I never said bandits would destroy train lines. They’d rob one, yeah. Train still needs protection from that.

They are connected to world trade. It’s shown that they get shipments from Atlas. Like I said, if they had a train from the port to Mistral, they would have to shut it down in light of recent events. Mistral can no longer afford the manpower required to protect every mile of it. So, instead of forcing themselves to keep the train running even if they dont have enough soldiers/hunters to protect it, it’ll probably save them resources if they just… don’t run it for now.

The fact that they don’t show this is bad writing, but not necessarily bad worldbuilding.

Ruins. They’re ruins. There’s no 'good condition’ ruins. They’re ruined. Hence the name. Remember Mountain Glenn? Collapsed buildings, rubble everywhere, rotting structural integrity, Ruby fell through a hole. How is that 'good condition’?

Oniyuri: destroyed houses, beams and building skeletons exposed, Qrow fell though a roof. Still good condition?

Kuroyuri: houses and other structures lying destroyed, still, good condition?

Like I think you mean like, 'why are some things still standing, why haven’t the grimm crushed it all to dust yet?’ or 'why is it still so clean?’

For the second one, its simply because their graphics amd models are terrible at expressing it. Everything’s too smooth, not dusty at all, no cracks or anything. It lacks texture.

For the first one, I think it’s just because grimm only attack if humans are still hanging there. They keep attacking shipments, comm towers, and villages, simply because: humans are still there. Humans still use those structures. It’s not unusable to humans yet.

They destroy things, so as long as that thing is destroyed and humans are dead, then for the grimm, that’s perfect. Crushing things to dust isn’t their point. They just need to cause destruction.

My point is, the worldbuilding isn’t that bad. It’s the writing that fails to show that. Things that are easily in the world of Remnant, because they’ve explained it before, they’ve presented the possibility of it before, but the writing doesn’t bother explaining it all over again for the people who can’t be bothered to think back to previous episodes, or the people who can’t be bothered to infer from clues.

That’s not to say that RWBY’s worldbuilding isn’t absolutely pockmarked with holes, but like, according to what they’ve introduced, it’s pretty easy to bridge those holes. It’s bad, but it could be worse.

They skip over so many things that seem small, obvious, but they don’t realize that it pokes holes in their narrative. They’re rather fond of timeskips, and its lazy because they just suddenly go 'oh, thats been developed in the skip, too bad you didnt see it’. They don’t realize how important it is to show certain things. Not everything is completely stupid just because you didn’t know how it worked.

A recurring theme in their errors is missed opportunities. They could’ve shown that particular thing right there in that particular scene, but they didn’t.

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There would honestly be no point to Winter attending the ball. What would an Atlas SpecOps personel be doing at a ball, anyway? I mean Ironwood is there, but Ironwood holds two seats on the Atlas council, I’m pretty sure he’s required to attend the odd gala, especially a charity event raising funds for a city that got attacked under his protection.

I guess, yeah? That’s exactly what that scene was supposed to tell us. That Weiss isn’t going to stand with these pompous pricks anymore. Also it’s a plot point to take away her inheritance and have her punished. It’s also a way to show how distraught she was over the Fall: she’s ready to tear into anyone who makes fun of the event, i.e, that woman who said Vale 'deserved it’. It also shows us how arrogant the Atlesian elite are, the juxtaposition between people like Weiss and Ironwood, who have seen and experienced what was out there, compared to the ignorant rich who sit around in their cushy lives.

Semblances are directly connected to the soul, so like how Ren managed to discover his under extreme stress, Weiss’ extreme anger probably triggered the summoning of the boarbatusk, just like how she managed to summon the arm to protect Velvet back in V3.

Of course Qrow wouldn’t leave until Ruby did, he’s supposed to be looking after her, so I’d expect he would wait until after she sets out. Watching over them would require following them around, I’d expect. As for what Qrow did before they went out, considering how he has Ozpin’s cane, I suppose he went back to Beacon to retrieve it. Also there’s still the reconstruction effort at Vale, and iirc, they needed hunters to clear out the grimm in the ruins of Beacon, something that’s stabilized by the time Ruby’s set out, according to that piece of news Yang was watching. Qrow could’ve been helping out in that area, before Ruby and the rest went out.

Qrow’s just taking out the smallfry, probably so RNJR wouldn’t be too overwhelmed by sheer numbers. Theory time: Notice how grimm stopped coming after the beringel appeared? There were no other grimm around by the time Ruby fought the beringel. We know from Breach and Fall that grimm don’t stop coming until a large enough force pushes them back, so where were the reinforcement grimm? Someone must’ve been thinning them out then. And judging by Ruby’s call, JNR were yet to arrive. Ruby’s the fastest one in RNJR, I don’t doubt that she went ahead. I might be reading too much into that short, considering all they probably wanted to show was 'Ruby Fights Grimm Alone’.

I don’t really see how Jaune, Ren and Nora are 'inexplicably there’. Beacon fell in autumn, and Ruby set out during winter, I think there was ample time for Ruby to get in contact with the remaining members of JNPR, and have them meet her in her home.

The Mistral military would first, have to mobilize, and I doubt a tribe in a forest wouldn’t have lookouts on the sky and on land watching for movements by the military. Their camp is made out of tents and mostly sticks, it’s not that hard to just gather weapons and just leave immediately. They must’ve been damn slippery bastards, they were nomadic, so they probably have no trouble just abandoning one camp and setting up the next one elsewhere.

I don’t see how its unrealistic for them to just care about their own group. Try asking a cannibal 'Don’t it bother you that you’re eating a human being’? I’ve never met a cannibal, so I’m pretty curious as to what they’d say. 'That’s pretty fucked up,’ we’d think. Surely, the answer to how the Branwen Tribe can just keep killing others to sustain themselves lies in the cannibal’s answer.

Sure, there might’ve been a a bunch of turncoats here and there, but they basically consider each other family, it’s not like they’re just working for a cause. They have a different society, different morals, different beliefs, they were raised in a different way. It’s unrealistic to expect them to think exactly like how our own societies think.

We might’ve survived the prehistory by cooperating, but that didn’t stop the Mongols from rampaging across Asia pillaging and conquering the random kingdom. Didn’t stop warrior tribes from ransacking other tribes, didn’t stop lots of kingdoms from invading other kingdoms.

They like their simple life, they don’t wanna to associate with the kingdom and its problems, so they live in the wilds. And why trade when they can just take what they want by force?

The Branwen Tribe aren’t incapable of fighting. They’re pretty capable. They managed to take down Shion, and that one huntsman (perhaps more, probably more hunters) died protecting it. Yang managed to beat them simply because she’s (a main character) an able huntress. Qrow does say that these kids shouldn’t be underestimated.

If you can remember V2 where Cinder just makes Atlesian military personel drop like flies everywhere, she’s so much stronger than them, it’s almost funny. If that’s all Atlesian military, the most powerful military force in Remnant, is capable of, that is, roughly equivalent to the White Fang and the Branwen tribe, I wouldn’t be surprised if the main characters are actually just Very Good Hunters/Very Promising Students. It’s not like the mobs are weak, the relevant characters are just…. really strong.

Attempts at expansion by nobles who think they can do better than the current Mistral government suggests that Mistral must have some condition where their government is simply, incredibly fucked.

Actually! I just remembered that Cinder mentions it in V3. She comments on Ironwood, about how he’s a dictator, and mentions that Mistral is also having a similar situation.

So yeah, I suppose the Mistral government is… not in a very good place right now.

Tbh Li’s bow was probably for hunting game, not grimm, and the way he used it in the flashback suggests incompetence on the side of animators and whoever it is that decides how scenes go and how fights happen.

Jaune’s upgrade was absolutely completely stupid, and the only possible redemption for it would be bladed shield bash plays, but the way he used it vs the nucklavee? Awful. The entire nucklavee fight? Also awful.

I don’t really like Qrow that much either, he’s not a good adult, and I don’t like how his alcoholism was an excuse for his actions back in V3 (thankfully they have Ruby look not-pleased-at-all about his drunkenness in V5), but I do believe he wants the best for his nieces, and that he wants to protect the world from Salem’s threat.

A husky can breed with a corgi, and have crossbreed babies, but you don’t see two huskies suddenly have a corgi baby. With humans and faunus, they might’ve had a common ancestor, but they grew up in very different environments, making them evolve very differently, the faunus, with animal traits, and the humans, without those traits.

Simple errors in the genes, like a sixth finger, are just that, errors. I don’t see a race of six-fingered people walking around.

Since we’re talking prehistory, how about the neanderthals? Neanderthals and modern man could make babies together no problem, even if neanderthals and prehistoric man evolved differently. Now there’s an ongoing debate about whether they are homo neanderthalensis or homo sapiens neanderthalensis, but let’s not get into that. Point is, they could breed with modern man despite only sharing 99.7% of their DNA. What are the chances of the faunus being same way with the Remnant humans? Not 99.7% of the DNA perhaps, I’m no biologist, and all I know is from science and history classes in high school, but the percentage of shared DNA is perhaps close enough to breed.

The humans and the faunus did work together at one point. A point after that, humans thought, hey, what if you guys did the heavy lifting because you’re so much stronger? And that turned to hey, is heavy lifting all you’re good for? You should be slaves! Racism probably didn’t exist since the dawn of time, no, they existed right when humans thought it’d be fun to oppress another race.

It gets iffy when you wonder how the hell early man, without fire and barely able to knock two stones together could survive against grimm, but if you can remember, 'We are remnants, byproducts of a forgotten past’. And also considering that the grimm’s leader takes the form of a human woman, which wouldn’t even be a thing, back when humans were all vaguely bipedal apes. There’s a lot of lore we don’t know yet, and a forgotten history is hinted at, an implication that there was a history before grimm. Since the main baddie is the leader of the grimm, I do expect them to cover some of this topic.

You’re talking about Cinder broadcasting the death of Penny worldwide, right? Do you remember she did that to attract the grimm on purpose? Do you remember she works for Salem, the leader of all grimm, who wants to wipe humanity off the planet? That was the point, to spread negativity. Iirc Oobleck tried to get the feed cut, but Watt’s hacking prevented them from intervening with the broadcast. The surge of negativity througout Mistral during the broadcast got them attacked too, weakening their defences horribly. Perfect, for when they’ll attack it in a year.

Pretty sure keeping people happy is a must for the kingdom’s governments, as the grimm present a constant pain in the ass. Which would explain how a school built to raise warriors to fight monsters could be so happy and full of life. So I would expect healthy coping mechanisms to be part of elementary curriculum, yeah.

Obviously they wouldn’t disallow the transport of relief goods and other resources to the attacked place, but things like commercial flights would be restricted.

Looking at the map again and where Mistral’s supposed to be at, I’m inclined to think they didn’t trek the width of Anima to reach Mistral on the other side of Lake Matsu. I was mistaken, they probably did take a boat around like you said. Jaune in V3 points to a hiking trail on the map, and he sweeps his hand all the way to the east, and (from that one glimpse of the map that I got, the map only shows a close up of Anima, as I could see the big hole that was Lake Matsu in the middle of everything) it seems like they were hiking to Mistral from the eastern side of Anima.

Mistral, from the far away view offered in the V5 intro didn’t have a body of water anywhere near it, while in the map, it says that Mistral should be fairly close to a body of water, and even Oscar’s train is over a body of water when it approaches Mistral.

The only explanation for the lack of water near Mistral in the V5 view is if Lake Matsu was behind it, which would put RNJRQ’s approach to being on the eastern side of things, as it would put Lake Matsu on the western side of things. Yang must’ve done the same.

There is technology to lift things into the air and hold it there, yes. It exists in nature, as evidenced by the floating islands of Lake Matsu. I don’t think it’s as easy to maneuver them as it is to just put them in the air and let them hover, though. The Amity Colliseum can travel to all four kingdoms, but I do suspect it does so terribly slowly, otherwise it would’ve been zooming away from grimm during the Fall.

Very slowly moving your flagships (like Atlas’ big ships in V3) towards an area to bomb it might make it easier for the bombing targets to escape once they notice. Even the smaller airships, I’d think, if the bandits noticed it coming, they’d scatter relatively quick. Just abandon camp and run.

Also, cuz I just remembered that it’s been said literally everywhere in the show that the Mistral government is incompetent (dunno how I forgot that, but hey I remember now), if the Mistral government can’t even take care of the black market dealings under their noses, I doubt they can knock together enough heads to hunt down a huge bandit tribe known for being slippery.

Like I said before, I doubt they were just walking through Anima for six to eight months, half that time they were probably travelling through Vale/on a ship from Patch to Anima. I already explained in my previous reply how the only worth transport rental that RNJR can get would be an airship, which they tried to find, but couldn’t. Yang’s lucky to have her own motorcycle. Probably cut RNJR’s months long trek to about only a few weeks. Raven’s portal probably took some weeks off too.

Oscar could take the train probably because he was much closer to Mistral than RNJR. He also belongs to the kingdom’s agricultural sector, which instantly grants his village protection and transport to the city proper, cuz food.

Connecting the capital to the sea isn’t as much of a priority in Remnant, because they can already fly. If shipments come to Mistral from Atlas by air, I’d think Vale and Vacuo do the same too. For the trade that comes in by sea, they can build a railway for that, and until it’s been explicitly said that no such line exists, then the possibility of it existing is still there. Like I said, for the duration of RNJR’s trip, it might’ve been shut down temporarily.

Yes, they did lose a ton of fighters. Lionheart mentions it. During the Fall of Beacon, when the broadcast showed the killing of Penny, the Atlesian Knights going rogue, and the grimm invading the city, there was a surge of negativity throughout Mistral, causing grimm to attack by the hordes. They died protecting Mistral’s territories.

Considering Atlas is the only one to keep developing its military after the war, Mistral probably put more effort into producing huntsmen than soldiers after the war, deeming it more practical to create weapons against grimm, than weapons against man.

Villages in between cities don’t last all that long. Constructing a railway towards a town that probably would last only a few years at best has debatable gains. Especially a village that has no fixed export. We can build a railway to this village, we can provide it with food, and other things. But what does it give us? We can devote manpower to protect it, but what do we get in exchange? Are their products good enough for us to use? They have to have a product, otherwise they’re just a liability. That’s why Oscar’s village has a train directly into the city, because they’re a farming village. They provide food to the kingdom. But trade to other villages? They probably have to walk, or ride a horse, or car.

Maybe long before the Fall, Mistral had soldiers securing trade routes in between villages and cities, but now that they’ve lost so much manpower they can’t even man their academy, I doubt they’d be able to secure trains and airships. They couldn’t even secure those airships flying over Lake Matsu.

Lionheart mentions that Mistral’s sheer size makes it hard for them to protect. Between their incompetent government and the recent blows from the Fall, travel and trade to and from Mistral just got a lot harder.

I’ve yet to see information from WoR to contradict the ones in the show, though I do agree that it’s a very lazy way of expositing. Imo, the crap covered in the WoR are simply crap they forgot to expand on in V1-V2, because they were too busy devoting 4 episodes to Jaune, or 3 episodes to useless love triangles, preferring to populate their dialogue with useless banter rather than dropping interesting world facts.

Though they do drop world facts every now and then, it kind of requires you to squint at things.

I didn’t say they were lazy with the plot, I said it was lazy for them to skip over important developements in it. I wouldn’t count it as 'plot’ since plot is the overarching story that connects everything. They’re lazy with the developments in it, I mean. 'Let’s move to this next section of the plot because I think this part is skippable’ but it’s not. It’s very much not.

I give them a pass when at first something happens and it might seem confusing or even contradictory, if I can find that one explanation from a previous episode, or from a WoR, or simply because I came across a theory that explains it, and suddenly it makes sense. I give them a pass because there was an explanation, even though they didn’t explicitly give it.

I do prefer to bridge holes, it’s more exciting, in my opinion, to see if my bridge holds up or not. Fun, too, since RWBY is like… hard mode for it.

I’m sorry I called you stupid. Well, I called what you did stupid. I’m still sorry anyhow. Its just that, if you’re going to complain about the characters and their situation, you should at least get the show’s facts right. Saying 'they should have done this’ and then it turns out to not be viable in canon just because you didn’t fact check is a bit unfortunate.

Right now there is a lot of Freezerburn interaction. From V1 to V5, except V4, there’s been constant one-on-one interaction, especially in V3 and V5. There’s a pretty big chance, I reckon.

Freezerburn is a cute ship. I can get behind it, and I’ve even made a couple of fanart once or twice, though my main ship is WhiteRose and I will never stop supporting that.

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