If it keeps you from killing yourself it's not stupid. This applies to anything btw.

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If it keeps you from killing yourself it's not stupid. This applies to anything btw.
has anyone done this yet
Me when the obviously doomed character doesn't get a happy ending
"Bloodymary is fucking peak!!" I scream at the enraged mob, hollering at me to die.
"He's right!" A voice echoes from the back of the crowd.
I raise my head- Markiplier from YouTube is smiling at me.
one thing abt bear as a character that feels So crucial is the fact that its mentioned early on that his apartment is actually his grandmothers who passed away some unspecified amount of time ago and he’s moved in (notice the furniture and decor not looking like that of a young guy)
he comes home to find his cat (his grandma’s cat??) dead because it got into his grandma’s medication which he still has for some reason, so he cleans up the vomit and the corpse (in a bin bag, not a burial despite supposedly loving that cat SO much), and then….. puts the medicine back in the cabinet???
and then he sobs about this entirely preventable thing that HE could have avoided had he just taken any kind of initiative and yknow, gotten rid of the incredibly dangerous pills for a dead woman being kept in a cabinet that doesnt close properly
because if he Had actually cared about that cat, he wouldn’t have kept that stuff lying around at all, and he wouldn’t have unceremoniously dumped its body in a bin bag outside and then act like a victim when his own actions come to bite him
and That is what his character is about
Hey uhhh do we think that all the stuff with Bear’s cat was Nikki trying to break through?
I love that this movie left so much up to interpretation and there are so many ways to read everything, but these were my thoughts.
Spoilers and CW for animal death, human death, and abusive relationship tactics under the cut.
Going off option 2, I saw someone on Twitter say something along the lines of “wish!Nikki isn’t a person, she’s a brand new being that has no idea how to be a person, other than the fact that she has to love Bear more than anything else”. Essentially saying this is a being that’s pretty much a newborn with all types of interaction and socialization, so it makes sense that she wouldn’t know the proper way to comfort someone without it being warped in this disturbing way because she just. Can’t. Understand. The rest of option 2 I agree with and would just be reiterating
Yes, absolutely. For a lot of the movie, Wish!Nicki is essentially AB testing Bear in a lot of their interactions through the movie. She's obsessed with Bear, she wants him to be with her always, so how does she do that? She tries one thing, that doesn't work, she goes down another route. She goes from violent and angry to baby-like and docile on a whim, whatever she finds gets the reaction she wants. Whether this is because Wish!Nicki in incapable of real love or just doesn't know what it is because she's too new and young, its hard to say. I feel like there's evidence for both options. It adds to the AI-girlfriend angle for me a bit as well, because AI bots that are designed for "companionship" basically do the same thing, although to less extreme degrees, because they don't feel love, they're LLMs designed to make a person feel special or cared for so they will keep giving money to a company and letting them harvest their data.
This movie handles its abstraction perfectly. It says so much about so many things and really lets the viewer draw their own conclusions.
if i think too hard about nikki’s experience in Obsession i feel physically ill. imagine one second you’re just walking up to your house after a night out, and then the next, you’re looking out of your own body, but you’re not longer in control. you’re a prisoner to a terrible, unnatural version of yourself that only exists because of a choice someone else made. when you scream, nobody listens. when you claw your way out for long enough to explain that this isn’t you, nobody listens. when you beg the man who trapped you in this situation to put and end to it, to set your free, he just. doesn’t. listen. and then when you do finally regain control, all your friends are dead, and you are covered in their blood. because of a choice someone else made
And once again, the abuser gets the easy way out while the victim has to live with the scars and damage for the rest of their life.
obsession was great. the themes are especially great when viewed thru a feminist lens. i think you could even go so far as to view it as a metaphor for reactive abuse (the way bear makes a wish for nikki to love him more than anything in the world / be obsessed with him, then lets everyone believe she’s just gone crazy put of nowhere, all while still not wanting to end his relationship with her. of course it’s not one to one but the subtle themes are there.)
i also enjoyed how the film showed what everyday violations of consent can look like…media often shows the most obvious, often-dramatized occurrences of it, but this depicted a more common way of it showing up.
bear did indeed take advantage of nikki while she was in a mentally unstable state. he was well aware her consent was compromised. all the while he is very insecure about it, knows what he is doing, becomes aware even that nikki is aware and it is hurting her, continues doing it. i love that this film names this. it even critiques “not like the other girls” anti-feminism through sarah, who sees it as nikki taking advantage of bear…then she ironically tries to take advantage of bear’s vulnerable state herself by coming onto him.
also on a smaller note nikki’s batshit incestuous gorey hansel and gretel story had great prose i enjoyed it. my partner pointed out that before the wish, nikki saw bear as a little brother figure. meaning the hansel and gretel thing very well could have come from real feelings of disgust, like it nearly feels like an incestuous relationship to her.
and the ENDING. a lesser film would have insisted that, in these circumstances where the wish can only be broken if one of them dies, the male lead must survive between the two. but there was no self sacrifice from nikki out of “love”, there was no moment of lucidity or jealousy or rage where she kills herself, bear is forced by the narrative to take full responsibility for what he has done to nikki. what’s more— he reaches for a gun, almost uses it, ultimately decides on overdosing on pills. my partner and i personally think this was intentional commentary on masculinity, by having bear consider, then reject, the way men typically choose suicide in favor of the way women typically choose it. just a fun detail and maybe we’re both batshit.
good movie. all of that said though i’m sure a lot of people will boil it down to “haha women are soooo crazy…”
I took him taking pills instead of a gun as a callback to his cat dying and how he used that as an excuse to garner sympathy from Nikki.
I genuinely appreciate how obsession doesn't try to frame bear as morally grey but just fully leans into how deplorable he is. a lesser movie would have tried to give him redeeming moments along the way but no, at every single crossroads bear makes the wrong choice. when the customer service rep asks him if he wants to cancel his wish, he says no, and asks to alter it. when nikki, the real one, begs him to kill her, he asks her "if it would be so bad to love him", and right at the end, backs out of killing himself and tries to throw the pills up. he is the villain, not another victim, not a confused, cowardly boy, the villain.
We watched different movies.
Bear is a coward at every turn, yes, but he was kind at heart. He admired Nikki for her generosity. Sarah’s success lit him up for her sake. He was lonely and depressed and struggled with the soft, tender vulnerability at the beginning because every time he showed it he was told it wasn’t manly by Ian AND Nikki.
He wanted love, but he never actually took advantage of Nikki when he thought she was herself.
Throwing the pills up was desperation for life. That’s not cowardly, and I was relieved. I felt sick when I thought we were about to watch him die using the pills that killed his cat, finally giving in to that quiet beast that is suicidality.
The most cowardly move, in my opinion, is not killing Nikki and leaving her to deal with the fallout. But we don’t know what his plan was either. Maybe he was going to kill her like she asked.
> he never actually took advantage of Nikki
???
So her screaming and freaking out after she first kissed him and looked extremely confused isn't a red flag? The number of times she "snapped out of it" and the real Nikki made it clear that she didn't want this?
That time she was asleep and asked him to kill her, and he just makes it all about him ("Is loving me so bad?")
Nah. He 100% raped her, sexually assaulted her, everything. He knew she wasn't herself and he still continued to abuse her.
He was gonna kill himself because he couldn't bear (heh) to live a life without a woman that he only got through force, who didn't even want to be with him.
He didn't kill Nikki or try to help her at all because he was too attached to easy pussy that he never should've got in the first place because he's too much of a coward to get a girlfriend normally.
To add: “when he thought she was herself”
This almost implies it’s okay he took advantage of her when she wasn’t herself. Like he has a right to her because he “created” this version of her which just… fuck that so bad.
That probably wasn’t the intention when that was written but it comes off as seriously tone deaf and just dehumanizing to Nikki.
She had NO AUTONOMY she couldn’t deny him either way!!!!!! He took complete advantage of her AND what she became! That version of her didn’t have autonomy either—it was fucking created to worship him, it couldn’t stop if it wanted to! It knew nothing else!
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i'll be honest thinking about las vegas makes me nauseous.
like this shouldnt be possible.
Every part of Vegas feels like it's pulled out of fiction and is Incredibly off-putting. It's a major city in the middle of one of the world's most inhospitable deserts
Its famous for recreating other world landmarks on a small scale. It uses this as a trap to bait people into making life ruining decisions. It's motto is essentially "never speak of what happened here". Fucked up
Also crazy jerma is there also
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