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Hey gyns! I'm doing a research project for one of my classes this semester, and I decided to compare different legislative frameworks regulating prostitution and the effects that they have on prostitutes' safety (I'm hoping to focus on rates of sexual assault, physical violence, and sex trafficking, but this may not be possible). I would love any peer-reviewed sources y'all know of that could be useful :)
I will never understand why stripping is seen as degrading.
Like…the job description is literally “I am so hot that you could never get me in real life so you’re going to have to pay me to dance for you.”
????
The purpose of a strip club is to give men an environment in which they can see women as sex toys instead of human beings and not be punished for it.
I’m not saying it’s always bad for the individual strippers, and it certainly makes the guys look more pathetic and desperate than them, but it’s definitely bad for society’s view of women in general.
Former (for now, hopefully permanent) stripper here. I think a lot of people who don’t have first hand experience of stripping don’t understand that the job is about %10 actual dancing at most. There are some regional differences, club differences, I know girls get tipped more in places like Vegas or Atlanta but if you go just about anywhere else, you do NOT make your money dancing on stage. Stripping is not just being some hot and unattainable things gliding around a pole while awestruck men make it rain.
The majority of your money comes from private dances and from tips. If you are in the industry you know that the best way to ensure your income is to gather regular clients. There are two ways to do this: you can either give them sexual favors or you can play along with their fantasy that you are their girlfriend/will meet them outside the club. Both are objectifying and degrading, not fun. Not sexy.
Aside from having to deal with regular clients, stripping means swimming in a sea of misogynistic assholes. Some men get off on hurting women physically, some men get off on making women cry. You could be a 10/10 and you will still be subjected to abusive treatment by men. No matter how hot you are, there is always some man who feels entitled to list all the “flaws” he sees in your body to put you in your place. Stripping means existing every day in an atmosphere of violence and sexual aggression and having to constantly fend off men who repeatedly try to violate your boundaries.
As rude and entitled as the customers might be, they are nowhere near as bad as club owners/managers can be. Coerced sex is as ubiquitous as you’d expect it to be. Managers can force you to work back to back shifts until you drop or develop a coke habit (so you can buy from them), they can force you to give dances to men that smell like piss and they can retaliate against you if you piss off the wrong client by refusing to fuck. I’ve been called a cunt, a bitch, a whore, literally any insult you can think of - and I was Top Earner for almost a year straight. And I put up with it because I couldn’t afford to stand up for myself and lose my job.
And when i’m saying this, keep in mind I worked in the most expensive, “high-end” club in a major metropolitan city for years. I was one of the hot, “lucky” ones. This is the high end. On the low end you’ve got clubs that are actual no-bones-about-it-lube-in-the-goddamn-sanitizer-bottles brothels filled with trafficked women from Eastern Europe and Asia.
I’m sure some strippers are gonna say it’s not degrading yadda yadda, “I’m empowered!” But I’ve never met a stripper who hasn’t had some sort of emotional breakdown on a shift at least once, and that kind of says something.
The privileged sex worker tourists looking to gain some sort of dangerous mystique/male validation/”self-discovery”/whatever the fuck supplemental identity might never experience this, but who cares about them anyway, they are a joke to the rest of us.
tl; dr - take it from a stripper, it is degrading. What I wrote above is pretty stream of consciousness so i’m sorry if it seems unpolished. I just get scared and frustrated when I see things like this and wanted to get this out of my system so I could go take a bath and chill.
I quit stripping not long after I started because I had an anxiety attack (I didn’t know what an anxiety attack was back then). I was lucky enough that I could quit because I could find money elsewhere and hadn’t been there long enough to get stuck. Not long after that the club got shut down for prostitution.
I assure you, everything she said above is true. The owner/manager is an abusive pimp, the girls are doped up just to get through the night, men try to take advantage of you at every turn, it’s a nightmare.
You know what my appeal was? That I had just turned 18 and was a virgin (I wasn’t a virgin, but that was my gimmick). You know who all of my regular clients were? Men old enough to be my dad or, more often, grandfather, trying to get me to suck their dick for extra cash. They’d try to get my drunk enough to do it, but all my “rum and coke"s were just soda.
Girls who needed more cash or drugs could fuck the boss for it. He would pay us to get a tattoo of the club’s name and logo. There all still girls out there with it permanently on them even though now the club is gone, always reminding them of what went on in there.
This isn’t some sexy emporium of pleasure, it was a stock yard and we were cattle, branded and caged, for men to buy.
“Coerced sex” is rape.
Also, strippers have to pay the club a few to even work there and if they don’t make enough back in tips then they’ve lost money which is why it’s an incredibly coercive environment and women do things they don’t want to do every time they work just to at least break even
I will not pass judgement on bisexual women in hetero relationships, also I will not tolerate biphobic radfems who are literally two steps away from saying "your attraction to men makes you a traitor to feminist cause (regardless if you act on it), actually I think you should kys". I will also not criticise women who decided to refrain from being in relationships with men. Because who tf am I passing judgement? Also, my opinion is not going to change anyone's mind. For the same reason I will not criticise communists forced to sell their labour to bourgeoisie under patriarchocapitalism. What I can do is to try and better the lives of women in need around me, I can try and take steps to do things I believe are correct in aligning my life with my beliefs.
the leftism leaving peoples' bodies as soon as they start talking about "porn addiction" or start agreeing with republican porn ban laws
anyone posting this kind of horseshit should be legally obligated to work in content moderation for porn websites
the great thing about preserving kink as part of pride is that it’s the one thing that rainbow capitalism can never touch. I sincerely doubt that you’ll ever see Arby’s tweeting about forcefem anytime soon.
Porn is a $97 billion industry and Urban Outfitters sells bondage gear.
men are so gross and so misogynistic in so many ways
hey he gets even worse
WHY are men like this
@gendiebrainrotreceipts
When we see a terf we block and don’t engage. In theory that’s great - leaves them without an audience, saves us from accidentally helping them recruit.
In practice things are less than optimal. You see some feminism 101 take like “bitch is a slur” and your hackles go up. Go on OP’s blog and there’s a bunch of posts about women’s rights. That could be a red flag - I don’t have all day to vet this person. Better not reblog, just to be safe.
What is the effect on the tumblr ecosystem? Feminist posts with any teeth at all can never go viral in this atmosphere! Any discussion of surrogacy more nuanced than “it is an individual choice” will get no engagement; only the most milquetoast sentiments can prevail.
I don’t have a solution. I just want to point out that the atmosphere of (justified) paranoia has set feminism on this website back 20 years.
Tbh if you are SUSPICIOUS of basic feminism 101, that is a self created problem.
“women’s rights = red flag” oops you said the quiet part out loud!
YOU guys set back feminism 20 years
They just rebranded the term feminazi and y'all took it deathly serious because it was coming from "leftists" instead of incels
Men who are anti abortion will tell women to “close your legs” despite the fact that these men insist that it’s impossible for women to “keep their legs closed” and that all women want sex. If that were the case and women could not be “trusted” to not have sex, then why aren’t you encouraging men to stop having sex with women?
Hey guys who are anti-abortion: stop tearing off your pants for every woman you see! You risk endangering your own very alive child 🥺
istg if i have to see the word biphobia even once more i will go insane.
have you ever felt any real physical attraction to a man and a woman ? congratulations, you're bisexual. it's not that difficult.
no, saying that you're a lesbian when you have been attracted to men in the past is not "internalized biphobia", it's you being a lesbophobe.
no, feminists on the internet saying that you, a bisexual woman in a relationship with a man, can't call yourself a radical feminist because of that is not biphobic, it's common sense.
no, febfems do not have internalized biphobia. no, saying that us not dating men but instead focusing on our relationships with other women, whether for preferences or for feminist reasons, is neither biphobic nor a personal attack on you.
grow up
bi women in a relationship with a man can absolutely be radical feminists. y'all are absolutely biphobic and, dare I say, unfair to straight women by expecting them to remain single and celibate forever while lesbians and bi women aren't held to the same expectations. believing in radical feminism does not automatically mean believing in and adhering to separatism. honestly, as a bisexual radfem, shit like this makes me want to leave the community. it's constant and fucked up.
The way Islam talks about poor ppl: 🥰❤️🌸
Islam about women: ☠️🔥🔥☠️🔥☠️
I’m literally not even joking, this is an actual Hadith (saying of Mohamed):
It was narrated from ‘Imran ibn Husayn that the Prophet said: “I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3241; Muslim, 2737)
Just to continue this verse:
They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301
A Goodreads review for Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men by Caroline Criado Pérez:
"1 star: Really good and comprehensive investigation, but didn't center trans people enough" 🙄
Something something black and white thinking of gender ideology, something something
A lack of sex-segregated spaces literally does increase rape and sexual assault rates around the world. It happens whether the males in question call themselves men, trans women, or non-binary. Their presence causes harm to female people.
It’s so sad that some people learn how to read but not to think.
"Talking about the rise in rape and sexual assault is clearly focusing on the wrong aspect of the problem"
Death to this moid specifically
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some women want to be prostitutes or are at least okay with it. cool. some women are also okay with their husbands cheating, assaulting them or abusing their kids, and even defend him. there will always be women who choose the way of least resistance, which is accepting their subjugation, „owning it“, faking control over their situation by embracing it, and defending their abusers. it doesnt phase me. bought consent is coerced consent and sexual acts that are coerced are considered an act of sexual violence, yet buying sex is legal (where i live). thats not okay, thats not in accordance with the right to bodily autonomy and goals of gender equality set by our lawmakers. there are ways to support women in prostitution without legalising, normalising and institutionalising their sexual abuse. as a feminist, i want to abolish this system that grants men access to vulnerable, marginalised womens (and other peoples) bodies in the most intimate way possible. easy really!
Victims of abuse often “love” their abusers and in their pain and trauma may even believe they “love” being abused.
We must stop justifying everything with “well, some women like that!”
hijabs are misogynistic. nijabs are misogynistic. burkas are misogynistic.
any religion that makes a woman cover herself because women are ‘unclean’ is MISOGYNISTIC. any religion that considers women to be intrinsically more sinful than men is MISOGYNISTIC. i don’t care if you’re catholic or muslim or jewish, if your religion requires women to cover themselves when men don’t have to, then your religion is sexist.
I'm really glad more straight women are talking about weaponised incompetence, but I find it interesting how we never talk about it within the context of consent education.
The Liberal feminist idea that men need to be educated on the concept of consent, as if they don't know that rape is wrong, is infantalising and naive. Just as a man might make a show of incorrectly cleaning something to avoid being asked to do it again, a man will feign ignorance of a woman's refusal as a way to avoid accountability.
Men know what the word "No" means, they know that rape is wrong. They do it anyway because they believe that they can get away with it.
Corey Briskin and Nicholas Maggipinto say state’s definition of infertility discriminates against same-sex couples in landmark case
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The entitlement. Women are not fodder for your nuclear family pipe dreams. Women's wombs and bodies and minds are not for sale. Women's financial struggle is not to be exploited. Children are not a right.
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The self-centeredness of her wearing a hospital gown. The surrogate, whose face isn't even shown, is a young woman of color. Imagine the nightmare of giving birth while a professional photographer hangs over your shoulder. If these had been staged by anti-surrogacy advocates, it would be considered too on the nose.
remember in The Handmaid's Tale when the Wives would also pretend to be in labor while her handmaid was and they even had a special birthing chair for a Wife to pretend to be part of the birthing process? and how that was such a slap in the face toward the handmaids? just putting that out there
it used to be 2007 you know
All the adults should put in the tags how old they were in 2007
I was 5 in 2002
I was 3 in 2007 but my birthday is like the very end of the year so I was teeeeechnically 4 that year?
hey tumblr ads my "sex type" actually does not involve being violently dehumanized, hope this helps
