“James moved on, unlike Severus.”
Ok ok hear me out… it’s almost like James wasn’t the one that was bullied?

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“James moved on, unlike Severus.”
Ok ok hear me out… it’s almost like James wasn’t the one that was bullied?
I think this fandom has taken notice that Severus Snape is scopophobic. As in, he is uncomfortable with being observed. He prefers to linger in shadow and be alone, he's highly antisocial and avoids the spotlight unless it benefits him or his mission. It's one thing to be antisocial and introverted, but his memories of being a teenager very strongly reveal a paranoid, nervous and anxious little guy who very much didn't want to be noticed.
The fandom seems to have collectively agreed that when he's given a lot of attention, it makes him uncomfortable. I think we all agree that if someone threw Severus a surprise birthday party, he would likely throw himself out the nearest window out of shock and horror, if not downright embarrassment. These traits are common in:
•victims of severe bullying
•victims of parental/familial abuse (both psychological and physical)
•neurodivergent (often Autistic) people
Yes...i still think our man is VERY much on the Autism spectrum.
I'm not saying he hasn't learned to mask really well and put up with being around people and children enough to overcome a lot of it throughout the day, but generally speaking he strikes me as someone who is more comfortable when he can disappear~
People legitimately think there was no criticism of the Harry Potter series before her TERF/soft holocaust denier era and I'm sorry to tell you but people were criticizing the Cho Chang banking goblins werewolf-AIDS metaphor elf emancipation is silly series years before Joanne's public turn to transmisogynistic chauvinism.
There were things to criticize of the series.
I think the reason Hermione consistently defends Snape throughout the series is because despite him being appalling as a teacher, she knows she’s actually learning a lot from him. One of the reasons Hermione doesn’t respect Umbridge is because she realises that Umbridge is purposefully hindering their learning. That’s why she basically founds Dumbledore’s Army. It’s not about mindless respect for authority as she is fine with breaking the rules on behalf of what she considers the “greater good”.
Hermione respects Snape because Snape actually teaches useful things and he does so in a way that allows Hermione to learn and succeed - something confirmed in the 6th book when deprived of Snape’s guidance Hermione is surpassed by Harry at potions.
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I'm thinking a lot about how actually cool the marauders could be as characters, like there's so much you could do about them and with them and water's wet, I'm saying this as a die hard pro-Snape fan.
Like, them being bad people and bullies is not a problem for me, I'm used to liking the villains, heck Tom Riddle is my comfort character. It's the lack of accountability. Most people are going to admit that Snape is a flawed and morally gray character who did lots of awful things and it's generally not a nice person to around. I don't I need to explain how we also acknowledge that Tom Marvolo Riddle is, how do you say it, oh yeah, EVIL.
But the marauders fandom generally doesn't do that, there's this trend of brushing off their misdeeds and not acknowledge the severity (pun intended) of what they have done. The marauders are bullies, all of them. What James did to Severus could be classified as sexual assault in current UK law. The marauders are sadists, they laugh at causing other people pain and misery. Sirius says he wishes it was full moon. James tries pressuring Lily into dating him. They're not nice people.
Now, I'm definitely not saying my favorite characters are better, they never sexually assaulted anyone, but besides that they really aren't.
But I'm okay with that. I'm going to read through Tom murdering and torturing people, I'm going to read through Severus intimidating children, and I'm going to read through Slytherin as a whole being bluntly racist like yeah, that's part of the character deal, we ball.
If you come to me with "group of 1970s teenage wizard boys causing havock with a superiority complex and intimidating anyone who comes their way, while using their privilege backgrounds to go unpunished by the system. Oh, and they're also shapeshifters and at least one of them is a biker." SIGN ME UP. I can totally see it having a The Lost Boys (1987) kinda vibe, I want to see them being the popular jocks and absolutely jerks to everyone around them. And then we have Sirius and James navigating the geopolitical world of Pure Blood families before blowing it all off in the 6th year in the scandal. And then there's the Order Of The Phoenix, and oh it could have been so good.
I can get past the SA thing, really, I can. I keep bringing it up because people refuse to acknowledge it altogether. We always say "I love these characters because of their flaws, not despite of them", but that's not entirely true either. For example, animal cruelty is where I personally draw the line, I don't want to read about it or through it, I acknowledge that Tom killing that rabbit in the orphanage and Severus threatening to kill Neville's toad were truly heinous acts that deserve all the criticism, so yes, I love these characters despite that specific flaw, but I love them because of all the other flaws. It's perfectly fine if you love James and the marauders despite the SA, it's perfectly fine that you don't read or write about it, it's perfectly fine that you love them for all of their other flaws. But we gotta acknowledge that it unfortunately did happen in canon.
But so often I see the marauders as this one kind and happily domestic group of friends and nah, not having that. Also, notice how Peter is conveniently no longer a marauder, and Regulus never was a serious Death Eater in these posts.
You are definitely on the right there. Even for me, a sometimes loudly professed anti-Marauder believer, it’s all about the fandom’s reaction to them that makes them so repulsive.
They are bad people. They are in fact downright shitty. Write about that instead of whitewashing them (and giving them nonsensical personality changes and appearance changes and histories that don’t fit in with canon and-) and it would actually make for an interesting story.
But no, instead what we get is a bunch of OCs they insist are HP characters, brazenly right there in the tags of canon characters. Disgusting behavior really. 😭
Cedric Diggory is what the marauders fans think James Potter was.
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no you do not need to hold fictional characters "accountable". they are not real.
I’m not normal about Snape and I don’t want to be normal about Snape!
He's a little paranoid. Poor thing
I think it's soooo annoyingly interesting how people are quick to frame Snape as a victim of physical abuse, but completely short circuit when the same could count for Sirius. And why is that? Because Snape is poor and ugly and his main abuser is an ugly poor man. And Sirius, on the other hand, comes from a wealthy household, is handsome, and his main abuser is a good looking, rich woman. That’s it I fear.
Poor Sirius, who could just leave his house to go live with a rich friend of his, equally loaded, without losing a single social or economic privilege. Poor Sirius, who then inherited an entire flat, meaning he could afford to not work a single day in his life and still had a fancy London property to call home. Poor Sirius, who used his social status and his family name to go around trying to murder working-class kids who had no surnames, no connections, and no one to defend them. Oh, poor little Siriuuuus, whose mummy said mean things to him four times a day during the two months he spent on vacation it’s not like Snape got beaten by his dad and bullied at school by Sirius and James, who, funny enough, didn’t suffer any violence there at all. Poor Sirius, whose mother was soooo mean, but he always had clean clothes, food on the table, and lived surrounded by luxury. Totally the same as Snape, who couldn’t even afford clothes and lived in a slum in a decaying industrial area.
Honestly, I don’t know if you people actually think that being massive classists you can still pretend to be woke, or if it’s just that you have zero class consciousness and therefore think these arguments make sense, but there’s just so much wrong in your pathetic little discourse that I feel morally obliged to break it down using political theory. This lesson’s on the house; the next ones you’ll pay for.
What you’ve said about Sirius vs. Snape is the perfect example of bourgeois ideology wrapped in fake empathy. You’re confusing individual suffering with structural violence which is literally the difference between a tragic event and a class condition.
Sirius is the rebellious aristocrat. He rejects his family’s values, sure, but never his privilege. He’s cushioned by wealth, property, and social capital. His rebellion costs him nothing material, he runs away from one mansion to another. His suffering, while real, is intra-class; it doesn’t challenge the structure that produced it.
Snape, on the other hand, is proletarian misery incarnate. He’s poor, alienated, and socially disposable. He doesn’t just suffer in poverty, he suffers because of poverty. His father’s violence isn’t just “bad parenting,” it’s the psychological fallout of economic domination, alienation, and class despair. To put it bluntly: Snape is what happens when capitalism eats its own children.
Equating both of them, or worse, implying Sirius is the one ignored “because he’s rich and handsome,” is the ideological equivalent of saying Jeff Bezos is oppressed because people make fun of his bald head. This is what Gramsci called cultural hegemony: the ruling class’s worldview internalized by everyone else as “common sense.” You’ve been so thoroughly trained by bourgeois ideology that you think all pain is equal, as if suffering existed outside the material conditions that produce it. It’s giving “false consciousness,” babe.
And the aesthetic bias? Oh, that’s straight out of Adorno and Benjamin’s nightmares. You empathize more with Sirius because he’s pretty, tragic, and upper-class, suffering that looks good under soft lighting. Meanwhile, Snape’s pain is ugly, violent, and working-class, so it makes people uncomfortable. You’re not being deep; you’re reproducing the aestheticization of privilege: turning upper-class angst into poetry while treating proletarian pain as pathology.
What’s happening here is depoliticization through liberal empathy. You’re not defending Sirius out of compassion, you’re defending the emotional comfort of identifying with someone who suffers beautifully. That’s not moral clarity, that’s ideology in drag. So before you start handing out victimhood cards, maybe learn how class works. Suffering under capitalism isn’t distributed evenly. Pain doesn’t float in the void; it’s structured, produced, and reproduced through power. And if you can’t tell the difference between a man traumatized within privilege and a man brutalized by deprivation, you’re not being empathetic, you’re being reactionary, just right wing ideas.
So next time, before dropping another “deep” take that sounds like it came out of a sociology class taught by TikTok, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut until you’ve developed at least a minimum level of class consciousness. Because right now, you’re not dismantling oppression, you’re just cosplaying as a leftist while parroting bourgeois morality with a Tumblr filter on top.
Well thanks for the marxist lecture but how does his economic advantage cancel out his abuse? As a child he hardly had a choice and 11, 12, 13 year olds seldom leave their abusive parents, even the rich ones who have opportunities to leave, because they grew up with that and are used to it. Your entire argument doesn’t even answer my post you’re just talking about something completely else. Never have I denied Snape's class struggle so idk why you’re talking about systemic oppression here.
Where is your direct textual proof Snape got beaten? There’s none just like there’s none for Sirius. It’s called subtext btw.
Calling "abomination" and "shame of my flesh" "mean things" is just insane. Go read the books again or please shut up.
"Food on the table" "clean clothes" idk if you’re saying that rich people can’t be abused or if you’re again talking about something unrelated to my og post but alright.
My post was meant to highlight how people’s bias towards rich, societally privileged people makes them unable to see that they could be severely abused and your entire response proved my point. Bye.
Actually, it is confirmed that Tobias Snape beat Severus. That’s not headcanon, it’s canon — Rowling herself confirmed it in interviews. So before asking for “textual proof,” maybe try to research properly? Maybe is a thing about you to talk without studying first? that's why you say nonense so easily?
But anyway, you’re still missing the entire point. Nobody said Sirius’ abuse wasn’t real. What I said —and what you’re clearly refusing to grasp— is that his abuse existed within privilege, while Snape’s was produced by material deprivation and class oppression. Those are not the same thing. You can suffer as a rich kid, sure, but your suffering doesn’t reproduce the structural violence that defines working-class life.
The fact that you keep framing this as a “who had it worse” competition just proves you don’t have the theoretical tools to talk about class beyond Tumblr empathy posts. This isn’t about invalidating Sirius’s trauma; it’s about understanding that class shapes the conditions and consequences of that trauma.
Sirius had choices, safety nets, and capital: social, economic, symbolic. Snape didn’t. And that’s what turns Snape’s story from “family tragedy” into a political text about class and alienation. If you can’t see that, it’s because you’re reading everything through a bourgeois lens that refuses to acknowledge structural context.
Your whole reply keeps sliding back into the same liberal logic: “All pain is the same.” It’s fucking not. That’s exactly how class ideology maintains itself: by pretending material conditions don’t matter as long as we all “feel” something. It’s textbook false consciousness, honestly.
So yeah, maybe before jumping into lecture mode, you could actually read something about class and social structures. You’re not being profound; you’re just reproducing the same middle-class relativism that makes every political discussion about “vibes” instead of structure.
Because, newsflash: this isn’t about whether rich people can be abused. It’s about how class determines the way abuse operates and what it costs. If you can’t hold that nuance, maybe just admit theory isn’t your lane and shut the fuck up before stating stupid classist shit.
please hate my favorite fictional character accurately at least