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Courier, trying to talk themselves out of stealing the 37 gold bars in the Sierra Madre, knowing full well they'll die if they do:
Protip, if you make sure to decapitate Father Elijah, you can use his head as a carrying container to bring all of them. (His full body is too heavy.) It does kind of crash the Wasteland’s economy, though, since you’ve now got enough caps to buy literally anything you want, forever.
Courier, considering decapitating Father Elijah and using his head to transport 1300 lbs of gold back to the Wasteland, and effectively crashing the economy indefinitely:
oh yeah. it’s all coming together.
Slaps your ass so hard it liquefies all the bones in my hand and lower arm
NCR Propaganda Posters, 2281
Caesar’s Legion Propaganda Posters, 2281
in this house we believe:
this place is not a place of honor
no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here
nothing valued is here
what is here is dangerous and repulsive to us
the danger is in a particular location
the danger is still present in your time as it was in ours
This is a Nuclear Waste Warning Message.
Y’all that link is an incredibly interesting read
oh, i’m in love with this! the story behind this message is that we’re storing a lot of radioactive waste in an isolation plant in new mexico and we need to tell future humans: ‘we buried something dangerous here, don’t disturb it or you’ll die. this place should be left alone for 10,000 years. tell future generations as well.’ and this raises several problems: how do you explain contemporary time conventions to future humans so they understand what ‘10,000 years’ means, and starting from when? how do you account for the fact that we have no idea what level of technological development future humans will have? will they still understand any of the languages we speak today? and my absolute favorite: how do you combat humans’ natural tendency to immediately go do the thing they were just told not to do?
so in 1993 a report was developed by two panels of materials science experts, linguists, anthropologists, architects, geologists and astronomers to create a marking system for the site. they proposed different levels of messages to be placed in the area. and the language part of the report is amazing because they’re really trying to cover everything. my favorite parts:
should we just design the whole structure to look ominous and scary and not put any messages on it? no, because when has that ever stopped humans from doing anything.
but also some facial expressions are universal and have been basically since we’ve been around, so there should be pictographs of faces conveying horror and sickness, as well as ‘what is here is dangerous and repulsive to us.’
we have to explain what we buried here and what would happen if they went looking, because if we don’t they’ll absolutely go looking. so the expert panel suggested including both a detailed message where we explain in scientific terms what radioactivity is, and one that says: ‘the danger is to the body, and it can kill. the form of the danger is an emanation of energy.’
star maps will be used to convey the passage of time, and we’re including instructions on what they mean and how to use them.
we have to explain that this fancy structure isn’t actually hiding anything interesting. i.e. the tomb of some great leader that’s filled with treasure. hence the part of the message that says: 'this place is not a place of honor. no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here. nothing valued is here.‘
but also we shouldn’t make it not interesting because there’s a lot of potential in designing the site so it develops deep cultural significance for future humans:
‘a monumental, intellectually stimulating system would enhance performance with higher probability than would a less energetic design based on minimal investment, thought at creativity. an oral tradition tethered to the marker system would emphasize (1) that it was designed to be the world’s longest lasting human artifact, (2) that it was intended as a gift to guard the health of future generations, and (3) that it is the world’s largest celestial ‘clock’ marking the millennia. hyperbole and altruism are strong themes in the world’s folk tales, songs and myths.’
and finally, part of the message: 'we have found it extremely difficult to imagine all the forms of human society and available technology that over the next 10,000 years might give people the desire and ability to intrude into the repository level and thus potentially bring great harm to themselves. nevertheless, we have done the best we can in the design of a marker system that will survive over this period, that will be understood by those who encounter it, and that will be effective in countering their natural curiosity to dig at such a uniquely marked and fascinating place.’
#what really gets me#what really really gets me about the proposed message#is ‘this is not a place of honor’#because it’s meant to be very practical i.e. you won’t find any treasure here so don’t dig it up#but to me it really reads like ‘this terrible thing is our fault and we’re sorry’ (via @vrabia)
I mean, it’s a little of both, right? “This is our extremely dangerous garbage that we have no idea of how to get rid of beyond sticking it in a hole for 10,000 years. Sorry, our bad, don’t poke it.”
Todays biggest clowns is the state of Germany for going through to shut down all their nuclear powerplants by 2022 and playing right into atomphobia and what the coal and natural gas giants want
Hey hey... fuck nuclear power.
okay smooth brain
Yeah bro we should totally get rid of the closest thing to clean energy humanity has ever achieved instead of trying to improve and perfect it
The only reason nuclear waste exists is because we have literally never updated out 1940's designs. We still use crude uranium-and-water reactors, which are grossly inefficient. The only reason those spent fuel rods remain dangerous for 10,000 years is the fact that 90% of it is still enriched uranium.
At Oak Ridge National Laboratory, from 1965 to 1969, we operated a Molten Salt Reactor. Because the nuclear fuel, thorium, is dissolved into a liquid fluoride salt, this class of reactor can be immune to meltdown.
If the safety system ever loses power or the core ever overheats, the molten salt will simply melt through a plugged drain and the bottom and pour into a shielded chamber, where it cools and solidifies. It's walk-away safe.
Thorium doesn't need to be enriched for use as a nuclear fuel. We have vast stocks of it already mined, because it's considered a waste product of heavy metal refinery. It's more common than uranium ore, it's safer to mine, and it's not good for building nuclear weapons.
Sadly, that's why thorium-fuelled MSRs didn't become the standard. Every nation wealthy enough to build reactors wanted to use uranium because it could also build nuclear bombs as a Cold War deterrent.
We're now less interested in bombs and more interested in the high efficiency of thorium MSRs. The longest lasting waste isotope they produce is Cesium-137, with a half life of only 30.17 years. After only 300 years, it's less radioactive than natural uranium ore.
Unlike boiling water reactors, thorium MSRs operate at very low pressure. Any leaks can be patched easily because there wouldn't be an explosive decompression.
The liquid salt is stable under intense heat and radiation, unlike water, which can break down into highly flammable hydrogen gas.
Best of all, the thorium fission cycle is long and complex. It can be used to make breeder reactors, which produce more fuel than they need to operate, or waste burner reactors, which can run on "spent" uranium.
We could meet 100% of US electrical demand with zero carbon emissions, using only the thorium we already have mined, for 1,000 years at current levels.
Those reactors could be literally meltdown-proof, useless for bombs, and consume existing nuclear waste.
This literally solves every problem associated with nuclear power, and it was proven to work back in 1965.
Solar and wind are great, but we can't store that power without batteries made from volatile, toxic rare earth metals like lithium. Those batteries are expensive, dangerous, and demand a lengthy carbon-emitting refinement process.
If you still argue against nuclear power knowing all this, then you're willfully ignorant and you're part of the problem.
Thorium Dream (30 min. documentary)
Thorium advocates talk for 6.5 hours
Kirk Sorensen makes free market case for thorium on the Tom Woods podcast
girls night
so I read the article and the story is both less and more insane than it sounds.
basically, there's been an ants' nest near a vent shaft of this abandoned Soviet bunker for decades. the nest spilled over into the bunker itself at some point once it was abandoned and there was no way for the ants to make their way back up to the nest, no queen but a constant supply of new colony members raining down from above, and no source of food in the bunker other than the corpses of their fellow ants.
fast forward to some scientists looking for bats that stumble on what's basically a post-apocalyptic ant society. they go "holy fuck" start studying, and observe that, all things considered, the ants still pretty much act like regular ants doing regular ant things.
fast forward some more, and the scientists feel like they have enough data from observing the colony as-is, so they decide to try an experiment. they put a little walkway between the bunker colony and the og colony in the vent shaft so the bunker colony members have the option of leaving and rejoining the og colony.
spoiler alert: every single ant in the bunker immediately nopes the fuck back to the colony in the vent shaft. within days the bunker is completely empty. the scientists leave the walkway in place so when more ants inevitably fall back down the vent shaft they can just climb back up instead of starting up the cycle anew.
tl;dr it's not "oh noes evil ants are on a rampage", it's "ants forced into a horrible situation to survive get to go home"
I dont want bethesda to ever get rid of how fo4 does cutscenes because there is just something special about talking to someone and having a vertibird kill you both in the middle of it
I snorted
I don’t think there’s a better example of the above than this:
Uh excuse me, how can we forget this classic and masterpiece
I still like this one
How about this old gold
@immamotherpugger
Every time I see these I just sob with laughter.
I have become obsessed with long term nuclear waste disposal warnings
LOOK AT THE HOSTILE ARCHITECTURE PROPOSED TO WARN FUTURE CIVILIZATIONS I'M GOING TO CRY
Like this is the closest thing we're ever gonna have to old gods I'm really losing my mind
@jonathan-sins EXACTLY... THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKIN ABOUT BABY
"we sure are a species huh"
this fails to include all of the UN's proposed companion text, which reads:
"This place is a message... and part of a system of messages ...pay attention to it!
Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.
This place is not a place of honor ... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger.
The danger is in a particular location... it increases towards a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.
The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.
The danger is to the body, and it can kill.
The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.
The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited."
which gives a nice drizzle of cosmic-dread inspiring je-ne-sais-quoi to te whole thing imo
I want to see it in my life time ffs.
I have become obsessed with long term nuclear waste disposal warnings
LOOK AT THE HOSTILE ARCHITECTURE PROPOSED TO WARN FUTURE CIVILIZATIONS I’M GOING TO CRY
Like this is the closest thing we’re ever gonna have to old gods I’m really losing my mind
Here’s something fascinating that I heard on either radio or a podcast a while back about the challenge of creating warnings that will still be understood after thousands of years of language and symbolism/semiotics “drift.”
This WIPP site is going to be radioactive for hundreds of thousands of years, though this panel was only responsible for keeping this place sufficiently marked for humans for the next 10,000 years—thinking beyond that timeframe was thought to be impossible.
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The panel began by thinking about language. But language, like radioactive materials, has a half life. Beowulf, from only 1,000 years ago, is incomprehensible today.
One of my favorite concepts was combining genetically modified cats with oral tradition via folk music.
“Don’t change color, kitty. Keep your color, kitty. Stay that midnight black. The radiation that the change implies can kill, and that’s a fact.
The radiation, whatever that is, is something we don’t want, ‘cause it withers our crops and it burns our skin and it turns our livestock gaunt.
So don’t change color, little kitty. Don’t flash your eyes.
@the-last-girl-scout is this something you can draw inspiration from?
The idea of creating an “atomic priesthood” was considered in the same project that produced those images. The idea being that you essentially mythologize radiation and the danger associated with nuclear waste, and build a religion around it, with rituals, monastic orders, even PPE as holy costume to carry the knowledge about the danger far into the future. (Personally, I can already see the holes in that idea, but it’s still neat.)
The idea has been explored somewhat in the collaborative fiction project, the Fifth World, as “vulture priests”.
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