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If the creator or something explicitly states they don’t want two characters shipped will you respect it?
If the creator or something explicitly states they don’t want two characters shipped will you respect it?
Yes
No
dude??? you're supposed to respect that cuz that can make people extremely uncomfortable. if they say not to ship characters, you don't fucking ship them, you find a different ship. idgaf how good you think the ship is, if the creator doesn't want it shipped, respect that and MOVE THE FUCK ON. why is this even a debate and why do so many people think it's ok to disrespect people and their creations????
I’m gonna be honest here, I’m sort of confused. (not with you person I’m RBing from but the overall stance here) i’ve seen so many people saying it was okay and I was like… “I must be in the wrong here? the majority is probably right and I just don’t get it?” and sort of just rolled with what everyone else was saying. (which I now realize is like top ten don’t do’s of being online is to just go with what everyone else is saying-) but idk seeing like 1,000 reblogs saying the exact opposite of what you’re thinking will do that.
I just- where’s the line drawn, is my question? Like when does something (like a ship) step into the territory of genuinely not being okay. is there a line.
and maybe this is a sign that I shouldn’t ever publish my work but as an aroace person my characters are all deep extensions of myself and I’d be WILDLY uncomfortable if people shipped them. to the point that I probably shouldn’t put my work out there if this is the majority sentiment.
like I’m in fandoms where the creators have said “hey don’t ship these characters” “don’t do this please” and people have been okay with it so I’m confused to where this is coming from.
anyways sorry im just trying not to walk out into the world with a wildly incorrect stance.
I just- confused is currently the only word available to me. someone explain this please.
i do wanna mention, yeah, there's always gonna be people who just don't respect it and will ship characters even tho the creator says not to, but in no way is that a good thing to do. If there's no explicit statement, then go right ahead and ship characters to your hearts extent, but if they creator literally says not to do that, surely it's common sense at that point to respect their boundaries.
im incredibly surprised and honestly disappointed that Tumblr of all places is where a majority of people are saying that they just don't respect creators asking for their boundaries to be met.
also i wanna just remind you that conforming to large groups doesn't always mean that they're correct! if you know of somethings accuracy and majority of people are wrong, you don't change your stance just to fit in even tho it's wrong and you know it's wrong. (I feel like this can relate to a SHIT TON of things in the world but I feel like it's a good thing to mention here)
i do appreciate you trying to understand better tho, I am seeing this from the other people's pov too cuz obviously it's a good thing to hear all viewpoints, and that's honestly how I further know that they're just wrong about it. and what sucks even more is that they don't think they're wrong at all and won't even bother to try to think of it another way
That’s not how boundaries work, and is in fact an abusive use of the concept of boundaries. It boils down to: the only person you can ethically and morally control is yourself. Therefore an actual boundary is something like: “I will not look at the fandom or fanworks of the ship that I don’t like. I will publish my explanation of the artistic reasons why I don’t like the ship. I will publicly state that I will block anyone who puts it in front of me.”
Literally anything beyond that is attempting to control the thoughts and actions of people who are not yourself, which is both futile and immoral. Which is why so many people are having strong ‘no’ reactions to the poll question.
To reiterate: your control of a person’s thoughts and behaviors begins and ends with yourself. You cannot ethically enforce a “boundary” aimed at modifying anyone else’s thoughts or behaviors, and to try to do that puts you in the ethical wrong. If you cannot make your peace with that, then you should not make your art public.
This is a really good explanation!
Fandom isn't for creators. IP holders aren't the Supreme Authority for fandom.
Fandom wouldn't be fandom if fans stuck only to what creators dictated. Non-canon ships wouldn't be a thing if we all restricted ourselves to that.
And I can remember a time when canon queer characters were an extreme rarity.
Think of fan fiction as being in a conversation with canon. In a conversation, you don't get to control what both parties say, just what you say.
I mean, I will respect it in the sense that I won't argue with the creator about it, or shove my shipping fanworks in their face, or decide to write a shipping fic that I would not otherwise have written, just to be all "you aren't the boss of me!"
But if you mean will I obey it, then no, not necessarily. I will listen to their reasoning and go along with it if I find it compelling, but being the author of the book/director of the show/actor of the character/whoever does not confer automatic veto power over fandom.
So I voted no, because I'm pretty sure "respect" in this poll means "obey" but I made this post because this is a rhetorical trick to watch out for. The immediate slide from respect to obedience allows the general concept of respect to be weaponized.
Agreeing that you respect the views of others or that respecting others is a good thing is not a Fae contract that requires you to comply with anyone who invokes the magic words "I feel disrespected."
Peer reviewed tags by @ariaste :
Image description: screenshot of tags by @ariaste saying: speaking as a professional author who has also spent 20 years in fandom they are imaginary fucking characters and you can ship whatever you goddamn want to. Don’t let other people tell you what to think or feel, that’s fucked up bro. If someone says “not my thing” then don’t get butthurt about it. Just go “ok” and move on with your life. They are IMAGINARY CHARACTERS! We are PLAYING PRETEND AT RECESS. It is not that deep, y’all. Made up, it’s made up, it’s all made up. The author owns the copyright, they do NOT own your reactions or experiences or opinions. THAT’S IT.
We are playing pretend at recess
Best fucking way of describing it!
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anyway, I love adult content. I love erotic art having a space to exist online. I love seeing people making connections over creativity and shared hog cranking. I don’t love everything everyone is cranking their hogs to but it’s also none of my god damn business. fuck the evangelical rise of censorship. fuck ruining people’s livelihoods.
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