V. Alfeevsky (В.Алфеевский) - The Snow Queen
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V. Alfeevsky (В.Алфеевский) - The Snow Queen
Have you seen Cinderella’s dress in the current West End revival of Into the Woods?
No, I hadn’t seen it until now. Very interesting! It looks as if they went with a similar “leaf” motif to the dress in the 2014 movie, but made it much wilder. It definitely looks like a dress that came from the woods!
The Yellow Dwarf's ending(s)
So, thanks to @princesssarisa I discovered this old radio program, Let's pretend, from the 1940's. It adapts various classic fairy tales, and among them there was an episode on Madame d'Aulnoy's Yellow Dwarf. And I got curious to check it out, since this story has kind of a downer ending, with the pair of lovers getting defeated by the dwarf and dying together, only to be turned into palm trees by their mermaid friend who couldn't save them. It is quite melodramatic, kind of makes fun of the précieuses of the time and offers a morality about not making promises you can't keep. And while the radioplay kept the death and transformation of the protagonists, the tone changed drastically: now the mermaid summons the "Queen of Enchantments" to save her friends, and the arboreal metamorphosis is to protect the pair for as long as the Yellow Dwarf lives. In the meantime, the two can still be heard professing their undying love to each other. So from a tragic ending we switched to a bittersweet but hopeful one. This isn't too out of the ordinary for a U.S. children's production from the '40s, but it got me thinking: the Yellow Dwarf is one of d'Aulnoy's most famous productions, to this day it gets often cited when talking about her tales. But over the course of the late 18th and 19th century fairy tales experienced a gradual shift to being more and more geared towards children. So I wondered how else the ending of this one may have been altered to be more child-friendly. I figured that it would either soften the sullen finale like in Let's pretend, or dwell on the faults of the protagonists to create a moral teaching.
So I went to look and I actually found a bunch of instances like this!
First of all, the Let's pretend episode is tracing the ending of Minnie Wright's translation for the Blue Fairy Book, from 1889. Here too, the palms intertwine and caress each other as they whisper of their love, though we're given no hope for them to return to human shape. Otherwise the tale is kept much the same as in french, only without the inclusion of the final morality. Such an approach was also used by the anonymous translator of the 1840 Glasgow edition as well as Sabine Baring-Gould in 1894, only translating the text but not keeping the morality. James Planché on the other hand kept the final moral, when he translated the story in 1854, around the same time he produced his fairy tale extravaganza on the very subject.
Now a true difference can be found in Walter Crane's Toy Book, from 1875, explicitly written for children. Here the King is warned in time by Toutebelle of the dwarf and kills his foe, taking his betrothed back home. The story ends with the comment that the princes was "cured of her vanity, and lived happily with the King of the Golden Mines".
Both Baring-Gould and James Planché agree that during the early 19th century The Yellow Dwarf was among d'Aulnoy's lesser known fairy tales in England, however this started to change when its plot was incorporated in christmas pantomimes, like Planché's Fairy Extravaganza, the Yellow Dwarf and the King of the Gold Mines. This show has probably the most outrageous alteration for a happy ending. The lovers die and get turned into palms by their respective supernatural suitors, only for Syren the mermaid to pop out of the fountain that sprouted between the trees. She invokes creative liberty and theatre logic to allow for a departure from d'Aulnoy. Wow.
In 1825 there already was one english retelling of the french fairy tale: Walter Sholto Douglas' Tales of the Wild and Wonderful used the story as a jumping point to create its own gothic folkloric plot, mixing in elements from Germany. One such thing is the Yellow Dwarf's weakness, his beard. Just like Snow White and Rose Red, princess Brunhilde must cut it off to finally defeat him and escape with her lover Ludolph.
Speaking of german fairy tales, there have been reworks of d'Aulnoy there as well! In Johann Andreas Christian Löhr's 1820 fairy tale anthology, which mixes Grimms' tales and those of France and 1001 nights, the Yellow Dwarf is able to kill the lover of princess Wunderschön. However, in a sudden burst of rage, the princess wrings the diamond sword from his hands and chops his head off. She then returns to her mother's court, where she marries the first of her suitors that doesn't faint at the sight of her (so much for her undyig love for the King of the Gold Mines). "Thus ends this murder-, sorrow-, tear- and wonder-tale". From 1846 we have Johanne Satori's take on the Yellow Dwarf. Here instead the King defeats the imp and takes princess Flora with him home. Meanwhile, the Desert Fairy Fufu, embarassed for having been tricked, decides to never leave her kingdom again, and thus leaves the two in peace.
The only adaptation of this story I could find from Italy is in the notes of Gozzi's Greenbird, where he first intended the Ogre and the fairy Serpentina to kidnap the protagonists Renzo and Barbarina like the Desert Fairy and Dwarf do in d'Aulnoy. But this was never included in the final product.
I find it interesting how much the different adaptations have changed their interpretation of the tale and the tone in the retelling. This story has more elasticity than I first thought it might.
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Me: Mom, do you ever regret that you didn’t have another kid?
Mom: I had another kid: your dad. He was higher needs than you were.
Mystery Inc. but it’s the 1890s
Who had late Victorian Scooby Doo on their 2024 bingo card? Hmm?
The idea came to me when I was thinking about Sherlock Holmes and then remembered the iconic mystery solving gang hehe
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RIP David Hockney.
Out of all his art, I'll remember him best for his opera set designs.
For the character ask, Shaggy from Scooby Doo?
This is based only on the classic cartoons from the '60s through the early '90s, which is the Scooby Doo I grew up with in syndication. As a kid I lost interest in the franchise after Scooby Doo on Zombie Island, and I've never seen the live-action movies or the more recent cartoons.
Favorite thing about them: What a friendly, funny, and all-around likable character he is, and how resourceful and brave he can be when it really matters.
Least favorite thing about them: Probably how cowardly he usually is, though of course his cowardice is funny.
Three things I have in common with them:
*I'm anxiety-prone.
*I love food.
*I love dogs.
Three things I don't have in common with them:
*I'm female.
*I'm not a beatnik or a hippie.
*I would never own a Great Dane – I prefer small dogs.
Favorite line:
"My stomach's emptier than a piggy bank on the day after Christmas!"
When the gang is forced to stay in a creepy inn that the innkeeper says has "all the comforts of home":
"Like, whose home? Dracula's?"
When the villain of the day has Shaggy and Scooby tied up on a pile of explosives:
"Like, who's gonna build a new us?"
When he hears a creepy laugh and Velma dismisses it as "the wind":
"Well, that's the first wind I ever heard with a sense of humor!"
brOTP: Scooby, Fred, Velma, and Daphne, but especially Scooby.
In crossover-land, I might also like to see him become friends with the sitcom character he was modeled after, Maynard G. Krebs from The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, or with Jughead from Archie Comics, who was a predecessor to both him and Maynard.
OTP: None in particular; his romances never seem to last.
nOTP: Scooby or Scrappy.
Random headcanon: The franchise's inconsistency about whether or not he's a vegetarian is true in-universe too. He switches back and forth between being a vegetarian and letting himself eat meat sometimes. But he always eventually goes back to vegetarianism, for the same reason his original voice actor Casey Kasem was a staunch vegetarian – his love of animals.
Unpopular opinion: I have no desire to ship him with either Velma or Daphne. I like them as friends.
Song I associate with them:
The "Scooby Doo, Where Are You!" theme song.
Favorite picture of them:
idk if this is an usamerican thing or not but it always blows my mind as a small european country resident that yall have many names and types of apples???? what do you mean its not just red yellow or green??? why is it so complicated??? who is granny smith????
'whats your favorite apple' 'red' 'no i mean like what type' '??????' actual conversatiom i've had with a mutual from usa
THIRTY TWO??????
Listen that doesn’t even account for all the weird shit local farmers are getting up to.
May I present the best apple:
the world is so big and beautiful
I’m very American: my favorites are Envy, Honeycrisp, Opal, SugarBee, SweeTango, Pink Lady, Cosmic Crisp, and Gold Rush.
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You're invited to join The Official Unofficial Fan Celebration for the 30th Anniversary of Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame on Saturday, June 20th starting at 2:00pm EST!
This online event will be livestreamed on the YouTube channel Hunchback30thAnniversary. If you're not able to join us, don't worry! The event will be recorded and kept on YouTube.
We're very excited to celebrate how much we all love Disney’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame, reminisce about our favourite related memories over the past 30 years, and for our special guests to share their insights and experiences working on the movie.
Our special guests include:
⚜️ Don Hahn (Producer) ⚜️ Kirk Wise (Director) ⚜️ Gary Trousdale* (Director) ⚜️ Tab Murphy (Screenwriter) ⚜️ Stephen Schwartz (Lyricist) ⚜️ Kathy Zielinski (Supervising Animator, Frollo)
*Gary Trousdale is unavailable to attend the livestream, but he will be pre-recording an interview.
A few additional scheduling notes:
🗓️ Stephen Schwartz will be joining from 2:00pm-3:00pm EST. 🗓️ Tab Murphy will be joining around 3:00pm EST. 🗓️ Kathy Zielinski will be joining after 3:00pm EST.
🔔 We will keep everyone updated on the exact scheduling of each special guest, and if there are any changes. Please be patient as we're coordinating across 10 different timezones!
🇫🇷 We are still working through the logistics of possibly doing an in-person fan meet up in Paris on Sunday, June 21st. If you'd be interested, let us know!
I was just reading an article about Linda Woolverton for insights into Beauty and the Beast, and found some interesting new information about the creative process of The Lion King.
The Hamlet-like aspects of The Lion King weren't always part of the plan for that movie: that fact I already knew. Scar wasn't originally conceived as Mufasa's brother, but as a rogue lion who wanted to take over the pride. But then the creative team decided it would be more effective if the threat came from within the pride rather than without.
Here's what I just learned from the Woolverton article: the decision to have Scar be Simba's uncle wasn't inspired by Hamlet either. It came from one of the filmmakers (his name wasn't mentioned) who had once been betrayed by an "uncle figure" and then had to testify against him in court. But when Woolverton saw that this movie was going to be about a prince who has to defeat his uncle who killed his father for the throne, she realized "This is like Hamlet!" From that point on, she intentionally brought more Hamlet-inspired elements to the screenplay.
I've always felt that online fans insist too hard on viewing The Lion King as an adaptation of Hamlet and nothing else, and this article reinforces the point. Hamlet is an important influence, of course, but the basic plot had already taken shape before the writers even realized how much it resembled Shakespeare's play. It's influenced just as strongly by Bambi, by the stories of Joseph and Moses from the Hebrew Bible, and as this article reveals, by some of the creative team's personal lives, all combined to create an original mythic story.
it pisses me off so badly that wealthy friends get embarrassed when you mention that they are well off or try to deny it, like seriously, just take it and move on. What is so scary about admitting your family have money?
What astounds me is that people are both ashamed to be rich and ashamed to be poor.
Maybe the latter is more of a generational thing, but I remember that in the book Ramona and Her Mother, when 7-year-old Ramona casually tells a stranger “We’re scrimping and pinching to make ends meet,” her mother is embarrassed. And in Judy Blume’s Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing, Peter and Fudge’s mother isn’t embarrassed when 2-year-old Fudge has a tantrum in the shoe store, but she is embarrassed that Peter has a hole in his sock: presumably she accepts that toddlers have tantrums, but thinks the hole in the sock will make them look poor.
It’s as if people think “Rich people are oppressors, but poor people are icky and beneath us, and we can’t admit we belong to either group. Middle class is the only class not to be ashamed of.”
With fictional characters, sometimes it can be hard for an audience member on the autism spectrum to tell the difference between "Person A genuinely dislikes Person B, but helps them or protects them because it's the right thing to do" and "Person A acts like they dislike Person B, but deep down they really love Person B, and this shows in their efforts to help and protect them."
Sometimes I have trouble telling the difference between the two.
But sometimes an example is so blatantly obvious that it baffles me when the one is mistaken for the other.
A while back, I read a comment from a fellow autistic Disney fan about Grumpy in Snow White, saying that they liked the fact that even though he doesn't personally like Snow White, he still makes every effort to protect her from danger. As if they thought it was just the dispassionate "right thing to do" on his part.
Yet it seems so obvious to me that Grumpy's whole character arc is about learning to love Snow White. Reluctantly at first, and trying to hide it, but learning to love her all the same. I've been able to see that since I was six years old!
But some people would probably say just the same thing about my blind spots about other characters.
I was just glancing over some posts about Frozen and I have to say, it's funny to see how some fans complain that the franchise is biased against Elsa in favor of Anna, while others complain that the franchise is biased against Anna in favor of Elsa.
Each side insists that the sister they prefer has been "sidelined" in favor of the one they like less.
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Some of Cicely Mary Barker's Flower Fairies
The Mallow Fairy, 1934 and The Harebell Fairy, 1925
The Rose Fairy and the Forget Me Not fairy, 1925
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The Snowdrop Fairy and the Blackthorn Fairy 1925
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The Willow Fairy and the Laburnum Fairy, 1940
The Silver Birch Fairy and the Almond Blossom Fairy, 1940
The Guelder Rose Fairies (1940) and The Greater Celandine Fairy (1948)
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Opera lovers (and musical fans) always say that the appeal of La Bohéme (and RENT) is that the characters are so relatable. That they "feel like real people."
Understandable, given that the original book was semi-autographical and all the characters were modeled after real people.
But still, I know of another semi-autobiographical book where most of the characters are modeled after real people, and though the two works are aimed at different audiences, I can't help but compare.
Unpopular opinion: I think in Little Women, the characters feel much more like real people than the characters in La Bohéme do.
just wondering, have you seen Nosferatu 2024?
No I haven’t.