I like your explaination about batfamily or more to dick-family. I haven't read all the og stories, so your explaination is really helpful to know the dynamics between all of them.
I have a question. I don't follow Urban Legends, but I've seen some screenshot pages of it. At the end of Jason's story, didn't Bruce finally reach out to Jason and willing to have connection again? Or was Urban Legends forced?
Urban Legends is an anthologies book. And it featured a Red Hood centric story called âCheerâ that had six parts, the story is now complete.
At the end of UL, Bruce and Jason didnât end up connecting, I will actually say that things didnât change at all between them. Jason, who decided to not use guns anymore, said that he wasnât making the change for Bruce or his rules, he was making the change for himself, because he needed to figure out what he wanted to do. I will leave the panels down here.
So, Bruce and Jason âconnectingâ wasnât forced (because they didnât connect) what was forced though was the whole story. Urban Legends: Cheer is a story made with the sole purpose of monetizing the âBatfamilyâ. The story did, and I am not exaggerating, nothing good for Jason. The only thing it did was harm pre-Robin, Robin Jason and Red Hoodâs characterizations.
I will link here the reviews that I made about each part, because I talk more in depth about my issues with each issue, if you read them, you will notice how I grow increasingly frustrated by Chip Zdarskyâs writing and his Jason characterization.
Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6.
Now, the panels that you might have seen of the last part of urban Legends might be these (I might be wrong).
These panels come from a very out of character illusion that Jason is having. I cannot emphasize how out of character this illusion is. Jason wanting to be part of this happy and normal version of the âBatfamilyâ is just character assassination at its finest (or at least thatâs my opinion). Even in his illusion (that was provoked by the Cheer gas that supposedly makes you see a world where you are truly happy) Jason isnât convinced that its real. So, it is very messy.
If it wasnât that what you saw then maybe it was the panels from Bruceâs vision, that show him having killed the Joker and welcoming Jason to the family once more. Those panels are also a mess but not because Bruce âkilledâ the Joker but because no one truly believes that Bruce will live a happy and normal life if he kills the clown, Gotham has several villains and weird people. Also, Bruce killing the Joker at this point in time kinda means nothing so yeah.
And if none of that was what you saw, then maybe it was the letter that Bruce left in Jasonâs living space with a brand-new suit with a bat symbol on it.
The thing in the end is that Bruce and Jason didnât work anything out, they didnât talk about anything that might lead the reader to think that things are good between them. DC is very vague when it comes to resolving the immense problems that the Bat related characters have with each other. DC basically tried to duct tape Bruce and Jasonâs relationship with a suit that has a bat-symbol, insinuating that Jason is welcomed to the âBatfamilyâ. But nothing of real essence was achieved, at least I don't think so.
Jason was shown in the last Robin issue teaming up with the other Robins so they could make Damian go back to Bruce and there it is insinuated that Jason has "gone back home" as in the "Batfamily" but none of this is done with actual development of Jason's relationship with anyone.
I donât know about you anon, but I donât really like the idea of Jason going back to Bruce or anything Batman related because Bruce has done some horrible things to Jason.
But if you like the idea of the Batfamily or think that Bruce and Jason are on good terms now then I am happy that you are able to get some sort of joy from the current books!
Anyway, have a great week anon!
Before I forget, if you can and want to read some amazing Red Hood stories then I recommend, Batman: Under the Red Hood and Red Hood: The Lost Days!
Oh! Just a clarification, the dynamics that you saw in my Dick-Family post arenât real, they are the version that I made up in order to justify a relationship like that in comics.Â
The way that things are handled in comics donât leave room for the âBatfamilyâ to actually be a viable concept! Please donât take the Dick-Family thing as comics canon because it really isnât. Sorry if I made you believe that Jason, Dick and the others actually have a good relationship, because they donât.Â