1. Tons of people who oppose AI insist art requires education, emotion, talent, etc. That ai art having flaws (like badly made hands or other mistakes) invalidates it as art.
2. Art absolutely is subjective. For example much performance art is under controversy for being bad or lazy or not really art. You digging a hole can be considered art to some and just...recreation to others. Cooking being art is considered controversial.
I'm a chef. I make complex recipes and plating arrangements. I balance flavors for peak enjoyment by customers. Am I an artist? Many traditional artists say no.
How about graffiti? Lots of people dont consider it art. Rather, they merely see it as vandalism. Isnt that subjective?
3. Art definitely doesnt require a human element.
In fact humans dont even need to be present for something to be seen and praised as art.
4. Ever made your own paint? Ever heat soot and oil together? Ever grind beetles or precious stones into a powder with oil and repeatedly alter it to produce a specific color? You know, a thing that required specialized skill for thousands of years? Ever painstakenly and carefully fill in a space with a color medium without crossing borders or ruining the canvas? Ever pay close attention to brush strokes and moisture content and refuse to let it dry in the wrong way, lest you euin the enrire piece?
Now then...ever just go on your computer and pick a color and just fill in a space on your screen? Just like an app, a computer program can allow for shortcuts.
Believe it or not, there was controvery on whether art made on a computer program counted as "real" art. It didnt require the work of trained artists to make the paint or to make an appropriate canvas. You dont create your own colors via mixing methods. You dont need to pay attention to brush strokes to fill in a space with a color on the computer. You merely need to make minor clicks based on predetermined colors and a program that takes a ton of the work and skill out of the task that past generations needed far longer to create.
There was a time where these shortcuts were legitimately argued to invalidate art. Now theyre the norm for arguably millions of artists.
5. As shown with the mention of accidental art and literal animals making art, "personality, knowledge, and emotion" isnt needed to make art. Again, I can spill some tea on a piece of paper and decide the dried splotch looks nice and frame it as art. Who are you to say it isnt? A literal baby can just splash in water colors like they do with puddles and make art. They dont need any concious understanding of what theyre doing for the result to be art.
6. Forgeries were brought up because the topic of AI art includes stolen art, stolen techniques, and stolen ideas. Forgers need not ask permission to copy a piece. They can take your work and make an exact copy or alter it in any way they want without permission. And on top of that, they can sell it on their own. They can sell what is essentially your piece, produced with your techniques, and ideas for profit. If you or anyone else is fine with forgeries being made or sold without explicit permission from the source artist, then you actually dont have an issue with art being stolen/copied without permission.
7. Actually, yes, "anything" can be art. A banana taped to a wall can be art. A blank canvas can be art. Sitting silently in the middle of the floor can be art. Graffiti can be art. Me splicing two gif together can be art. Coffee art (swirling milk and coffee foam around) can be art. Sidewalk chalk can be art. Music can be art. And by that logic, any arrangement of sound can be art if presented that way. Art made by an ignkrant baby can be art. A cat leaving footprints in concrete can be art. you plating your dinner can be art. I can go on and on, but the perception of what is and isnt art is entirely subjective.
No need for "concious" anything. It's more about how it's perceived than how it's made. Now, you personally can give something more value based on the intent of its creation, but again, that's subjective. You persanally can attribute set to human intention, but bird watchers observing a bird create a fancy mating nest from specific rocks, twigs, and human trash would say different.
8. "Beautiful" isnt the only subjective word or phrase regarding art. "Frightening", "thought-provoking", "Ametuerish", "Complex", etc. And, as shown with your own reply, whether or not something is or isnt art is itself subjective.
Art doesnt need "conciousness". Art doesnt need emotion. Art doesnt need skill, education, hard work, understanding, dreams, etc. Art can be accidental. Art can be simple. Art can be boring. Art can be low-effort. It's art if even one person (or animal for that matter) sees it as art. The most famous and expericned artists in the world can see a banana taped to a wall and say it isnt art, and it's still subjective.
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