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Hot Spot!!!
Freaking finally! Hot Spot freaking appeared in the new Sideways issue and he mentioned his time with the Teen Titans. Someone from the least popular iteration of the Titans making an appearance gives me hope for more of them. I just really hope they make him a recurring character. And also hopefully he isn't shown as weak as he was this issue. But at least DC remembered him!!!
New Justice
While there's a lot of cool announcements like the new Justice League teams and I'm totally on board with having some new characters on the Teen Titans, as long as they actually work to do something with them, it's all going to be worth nothing to me if DC ruins Titans. I mean on one hand I'm excited for finally having Beast Boy and Raven out of the kid Titans book, and I've always loved Natasha and then there's M'gann's return but I love the old team more than anything. Their team dynamic was just perfect and I really wanted the book to bring back other old forgotten Titans like Flamebird, Golden Eagle, Argent, Hotspot as guests if not permanently. This just screams editorial interference to me! And I'd be kinda okay with it if the characters themselves would survive this "No Justice" ordeal unscathed but given their history, it doesn't seem too likely. Karen and Lilith are missing from the cover of the Titans Special cover. Karen may have just given up the superhero life for her family but Lilith's fate worries me. I love the character and I'm tired of her being ignored, used as a cheap Raven replacement when she predates her or killed. There's a lot more I can say about this but I'm just gonna stop since it changes nothing. I just hope Donna, Roy, Garth, Wally, Lilith, Karen, Mal and Gnarrk are all left alive and well to be used again even if it means not seeing them anywhere for a while.
Justice League
Wowowowow! This has been the best Justice League lineup in forever! John, J'onn and Hawkgirl! Hawkgirl was the star of the DCAU but DC never used her to her potential in the comics, she was too strongly tied to Hawkman. Hopefully this is going to fix that!
Batman and the Signal #1
Finally read Batman and the Signal and it's just fine. Nothing spectacular but nothing bad either. Duke's costume still looks weird and there's just a lot going on. I know they're trying to set things up but it's just a little too much for one issue I guess, which makes it easier to forget some of the stuff that happened. Would've also personally liked if the whole metahuman situation was developed over a couple of issues since this just directly throws us into it. All of this is probably due to the fact that it's a miniseries which it should have not been. On the positives though, Duke's character is probably written better than ever and I am really glad that the We Are Robin gang is not completely forgotten with Izzy and Riko making appearances. If only this was a regular book, we might have gotten actual gradual development for them as well but in this context I don't expect much for them. Which sucks given Riko, who happens to my favourite from that book, has a lot of potential and her dialogue here even hints at it. Also Duke getting his own HQ is cool. There's just so much potential with all of this, I really hope DC makes it a regular series because the only thing stopping Duke, his supporting cast and the concept is the fact that it's gonna end in like 3 issues I think.
There was a lot of really cool stuff announced as part of the Milestone announcement including Static! But all I can think about it is Rocket! It's been ages since she's been in anything and I'm loving that look. I can not wait to get my hands on this book!
Signal as a superhero name is… underwhelming. I knew anything Synder came up with would b. But its reminds me of Icon (a +) but i think Icon works because it’s shorter, has a weighty meaning behind it in & out of meta. Duke’s signal cuz… His costumes bright yellow, he has light powers, Batman’s his mentor, and does 4 Bruce wht every robin does (+ whtevr literal bs they mean by tht). And joker gave it 2 him. I don’t like tht. I don’t like tht @ allllllllll.
bad name Scott. bad reveal
I think the name is pretty solid, personally. I think the lead up too it was too much, it took us too long from introduction of him working with Bruce to codename reveal. But that said, I mean, the name works given the reasons you stated, sure, but also because he’s essentially the “Batman-by-daylight”, and the name Signal both invokes the concept light and the iconography of Batman, like the bat signal.
Its not terrible, like say- Hawkfire (I got those other reasons just didn’t wanna be wordy) it’ll probably grow on me but i think I’m not feeling it cuz of the how long it took, in wht book it happen (I’m not a fan of the in narrative mythologizing of batman and the DC universe centering around him), and the Joker being the one to originate it. Guess u could make the argument Jason’s id came from him too & he made it his own thing, but that’s when he was being a spiteful antagonist & thts the name he’s popular under. Im probably just letting thinsg surrounding it taint it 4 me.
Hawkfire is such a bad name! Just let Bette be Flamebird!
I hear you, and I honestly agree. I think the intent behind the long wait for the name was for it to have some kind of implied weight, and it does falter a bit here. And I can see the Joker giving him the name being a problem, especially given their history and just who the joker is.
I think the name will take getting used to, but that’s how it goes for every hero taking up a new ID. I’m used to Red Robin for example, and I like it now, but I thought it was so ridiculous back when it was first happening.
The Signal, especially given the context, makes me feel like they’re gonna treat him as an object important for this event and then he’ll be shoved into the background. I think it’s a little too strongly tied to the metal event. Also given how much Snyder hyped it, it definitely live up to my expectations. It’s not a very memorable name. I’m actually kinda hoping that this is not the name Duke chose for himself and is just what they’re gonna call him for now and he’ll eventually reveal his real code name at the end of the event. (Probably not but I’d like to hope)
He’s getting his own book and he’ll probably end up in Detective and such. I wouldn’t worry about him falling into the background. I think Snyder wanted to introduce the concept of Duke as a hero in a grand way, thus the folding of his heroic identity into a part of this very large Batman event, in hopes of him having some lasting impact. I can see the missteps, but I can also see the intent. I can say with absolute confidence that Snyder cares a lot about Duke.
Oh yeah I definitely agree Snyder cares about Duke a lot and he's gonna try to make sure Duke has a place. And the book will most likely spin out of Metal so will probably follow threads from the event. I'm mostly worried about the long term. But hopefully his book does well and he gets to cement his place in the DCU. The name will definitely need a lot of getting used to for me though
Signal as a superhero name is… underwhelming. I knew anything Synder came up with would b. But its reminds me of Icon (a +) but i think Icon works because it’s shorter, has a weighty meaning behind it in & out of meta. Duke’s signal cuz… His costumes bright yellow, he has light powers, Batman’s his mentor, and does 4 Bruce wht every robin does (+ whtevr literal bs they mean by tht). And joker gave it 2 him. I don’t like tht. I don’t like tht @ allllllllll.
bad name Scott. bad reveal
I think the name is pretty solid, personally. I think the lead up too it was too much, it took us too long from introduction of him working with Bruce to codename reveal. But that said, I mean, the name works given the reasons you stated, sure, but also because he’s essentially the “Batman-by-daylight”, and the name Signal both invokes the concept light and the iconography of Batman, like the bat signal.
Its not terrible, like say- Hawkfire (I got those other reasons just didn’t wanna be wordy) it’ll probably grow on me but i think I’m not feeling it cuz of the how long it took, in wht book it happen (I’m not a fan of the in narrative mythologizing of batman and the DC universe centering around him), and the Joker being the one to originate it. Guess u could make the argument Jason’s id came from him too & he made it his own thing, but that’s when he was being a spiteful antagonist & thts the name he’s popular under. Im probably just letting thinsg surrounding it taint it 4 me.
Hawkfire is such a bad name! Just let Bette be Flamebird!
I hear you, and I honestly agree. I think the intent behind the long wait for the name was for it to have some kind of implied weight, and it does falter a bit here. And I can see the Joker giving him the name being a problem, especially given their history and just who the joker is.
I think the name will take getting used to, but that’s how it goes for every hero taking up a new ID. I’m used to Red Robin for example, and I like it now, but I thought it was so ridiculous back when it was first happening.
The Signal, especially given the context, makes me feel like they're gonna treat him as an object important for this event and then he'll be shoved into the background. I think it's a little too strongly tied to the metal event. Also given how much Snyder hyped it, it definitely live up to my expectations. It's not a very memorable name. I'm actually kinda hoping that this is not the name Duke chose for himself and is just what they're gonna call him for now and he'll eventually reveal his real code name at the end of the event. (Probably not but I'd like to hope)
Sooooo…..Bette could show up in Rebirth in a lotta places come on DC don’t let me down
Titans! Please! Wouldn't mind Detective either but Titans, make her remember her time as a Titan and put her in the book!
i just find it real funny how gar and raven went from being contemporaries with dick then tim and now damian. it seems that if titans aren’t forgotten or left to fade out into obscurity then they’re just props for the more popular characters
This! This annoys the hell out of me. People can't stop complaining about Cyborg in the League when this is what people should be complaining about! Why the hell are Gar and Raven still "Teen Titans", like if you're let them join another team or do their own thing at least let them grow up and put them in the "Titans" book! These amazing characters are being ruined just to keep the team relevant instead of writing good stories with the actual new teenage heroes.
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Damian is still Robin in Super Sons,Teen Titans, etc. Do you think he and Duke will share the title?
Right now, I’m leaning the most towards Duke being called some variation of Robin, in the same way that Tim in continuity has always been Red Robin but everyone considers him a Robin regardless.
I just can’t see Duke not being a Robin at this point, though there is of course a possibility he won’t be. There has been too much foreshadowing within the context of the story; from the various parallels that can be drawn between him and the various other Robins, to his actual storyline in the Superheavy arc directly addressing how he feels about the relationship between Batman and Robin and how he feels that role is vital.
Every interview that has dealt with Duke Thomas and what’s coming next for him Rebirth, the title of Robin has been mentioned. I find it particularly interesting that Snyder has, on two separate occasions, talked about Duke as a part of the Robin mythology, both as an expansion of it and it connecting him to the lineage of the title and the characters that have held it.
They keep tip toeing around calling him Robin. So either they’re playing everyone, trying to get people to buy into the character with the hype, or…he’s going to be a Robin. I find the latter most likely, as it will also be headline worthy in the wake of Rebirth.
So, those are my thoughts. I could be wrong.
I personally feel more like they’re hinting at Lark but using him in the traditional role of Robin since Damian is going to be doing his own thing. His yellow outfit in the recent issue also seemed like a hint to me. Idk though I may have taken that Lark appearance to seriously. I hope they don’t forget the rest of the WAR gang once Duke moves onto being Batman’s official partner. P.S I don’t get what Tim going back to his Robin costume is supposed to imply
That’s a fair point, and I honestly hadn’t considered any implications that could be drawn from the yellow jumper. And the majority of that disregard comes from what Duke said after he put on the suit:
“Okay. You can do this, Duke. You’re a Robin.”
He claims the identity of Robin. He claims that as himself. I also remember Snyder saying that Duke’s appearance in Batman’s nightmare was more how Bruce thought things could end, and not a concrete spoiler on who Duke becomes.
I just honestly feel like anything else is a blatant disregard of the character himself. Becoming a Robin official has been his entire arc as a character. Sure, he could be become Lark, and Batman could still treat him as if he were on the Robin level, but that ignores that Duke’s choice, every time, has been to be Robin.
Oh yes I'm not disregarding any of that, it's just the impression that I've been getting from all of this. Especially with all the interviews mentioning him sounding like "he's Robin but not how you think" so idk what to take out of it. Whatever the case may be I'm just glad we got these wonderful young additions to the Batman mythos with WAR, Harper, Cullen and all the GA characters. Here's hoping they maintain there presence post rebirth. Since I know you're a big Bette fan, do you expect her to show up in Detective?
Damian is still Robin in Super Sons,Teen Titans, etc. Do you think he and Duke will share the title?
Right now, I’m leaning the most towards Duke being called some variation of Robin, in the same way that Tim in continuity has always been Red Robin but everyone considers him a Robin regardless.
I just can’t see Duke not being a Robin at this point, though there is of course a possibility he won’t be. There has been too much foreshadowing within the context of the story; from the various parallels that can be drawn between him and the various other Robins, to his actual storyline in the Superheavy arc directly addressing how he feels about the relationship between Batman and Robin and how he feels that role is vital.
Every interview that has dealt with Duke Thomas and what’s coming next for him Rebirth, the title of Robin has been mentioned. I find it particularly interesting that Snyder has, on two separate occasions, talked about Duke as a part of the Robin mythology, both as an expansion of it and it connecting him to the lineage of the title and the characters that have held it.
They keep tip toeing around calling him Robin. So either they’re playing everyone, trying to get people to buy into the character with the hype, or…he’s going to be a Robin. I find the latter most likely, as it will also be headline worthy in the wake of Rebirth.
So, those are my thoughts. I could be wrong.
I personally feel more like they're hinting at Lark but using him in the traditional role of Robin since Damian is going to be doing his own thing. His yellow outfit in the recent issue also seemed like a hint to me. Idk though I may have taken that Lark appearance to seriously. I hope they don't forget the rest of the WAR gang once Duke moves onto being Batman's official partner. P.S I don't get what Tim going back to his Robin costume is supposed to imply
Found some Titans art that I hadn’t seen! So that character definitely seems to be Raven but what’s with the hair? Is she like a new person taking up the mantle? And instead of Raven and Beast Boy graduating from the Titans for bigger roles we have Starfire returning! Just great!
Not really digging Garth’s costume but let’s see if he rekindles his romance with Tula.
And who is that green costume Titan? Her hair look red so it could be Lilith! Some people speculated its Artemis but I doubt it since she’s appearing in Outlaws. DC just please don’t forget Karen, Mal, Lilith and Gnarrk! Like they just got reintroduced, they need to be in this please DC!
All this DC news is just so amazing! I really hope it plays out as good as it looks right now.
Nightwing is back to his old color scheme thankfully!
This is probably like the first time I’m interested in Detective Comics! Batwoman and Cassandra with Tim and Stephanie. I’m liking the costume so far, looks a bit like her Batgirl costume and whatever she is wearing in BARE. Wonder why Tim’s in the Robin costume though. And please let Bette join in on this like please DC, like fucking Clayface is there.
I love the Birds of Prey designs! I hope that’s Helena Bertinelli as Huntress.
Really excited for Superwoman, who we still know pretty much nothing about and the new Chinese Superman.
Love that wonder woman art, its just so mythical and epic!
Flash seems to be getting interesting as well, I hope these new speedsters he’ll mentor means the return of Jesse and old Wally, dunno how but I want him back. I just can’t accept the new one, he’s not the character I fell in love with.
Seeing Garth and Tula with Arthur and Mera makes me feel so happy! Now I want Kaldur and Lorena back too! Especially Lorena, I miss that girl so much!
The Titans book I’m gonna read no matter what but I don’t want Brett Booth on the art. Anyway, we have the original five minus Wally (cuz he still doesn’t exist) and another person. Lilith? I don’t want her forgotten so soon after she came back. Could she be going back to being Omen, don’t know how I feel about that costume though.
Super Sons sounds really fun!
Teen Titans, I’m not really getting. Damian trying to lead it makes sense but I don’t get who’s on the team. I’m seeing Kid Flash and Beast Boy but Starfire? And is the last one Raven? I don’t know, the costume seems to be her pre-52 one but I see red/brown hair.
And I’m really glad we didn’t lose Gotham Academy! I just really hope its as fun as it looks.
DC adds Bumblebee to its Bombshells line, out this year.
She’s adorable!
I’m loving all the love Bumblebee has been getting from DC lately! Hopefully we’ll see Karen as Bumblebee in Titans Hunt too cuz so far she’s been kept disconnected from all the lost history of the Titans.
Honestly I’d go for any Titans animated lineup that isn’t some version of the New Teen Titans one. Like I love those characters, but there are so many other lineups and characters.
Almost 100 members but let’s just keep using the same five (and maybe a few others that also tend to be the same ones).
You’d think they’d go with a lineup similar to the New 52 lineup with a few changes, since that’s the setting they seem to be adapting. But nope. Just let Raven and Gar grow up. At least Kori has gotten to grow up in the comics.
Well if they did do new 52 then Raven and Gar still wouldn’t be grown up. But yeah, I’d like to have seen that. At least it’d be some Titans that haven’t been animated yet.
Well, the lineup didn’t originally have Raven and Gar. It was Tim, Cassie, Bart, Kon, Skitter, Bunker, and Kiran,I imagine they’d throw in Kaldur somewhere, but that’s apparently not what they’re going for here.
Seriously this! Let them grow up please! I hate to see people complaining why Cyborg and Starfire aren't part of the Titans in the New 52. Yes I'd love to have Cyborg's history with the Titans back but at least he's grown up to join the League. But Raven and Beast Boy are deaged to teenagers and are still stuck with the TEEN Titans. Justice League Dark would've been a perfect home for Raven!
So. Whats your dream Titans animated lineup? Could be a whole team from comics, could be one you put together.
Every Titan who hasn't been animated yet! Must include Lilith, Flamebird, Golden Eagle, Duela Dent, Empress and Arrowette (Ik they weren't actually Titans), Risk, Osiris, Minion, Damage!, Bushido, Linda Danvers, everyone just everyone must make atleast make an appearance, I want them all!
