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Can I ask why you hate Batman and Robin Eternal? (it was my first DC comic ever, my dad bought it for me in one of his trips even though I didn’t know anything about the batfam or comics in general lmao). It’s been so long since the last time I read it I don’t even remember what it was about (I do remember enjoying it in that moment but it may have also been because it was a gift and the drawings were cool lol)
Aww, that’s very sweet. There are certainly bits of the comic that are enjoyable. I’m pretty sure that I’m actually in the minority when I say that I don’t care for it...but since you asked lol, there are several things about these comics that really rub me the wrong way. This is pretty negative (and way longer than I’d planned), so be warned.
For starters, Dick Grayson was just...not treated well by his family members in these comics. It felt particularly brutal here specifically...I think because Dick would say very harmless things, and his family’s responses in return were so abrupt and unreasonably harsh. Like, Dick says that he’s glad to see Batgirl, and wonders what some kids are doing dressed as Robin...
Batman and Robin Eternal #4
And Batgirl bites his head off. Or, there were times where Dick would just be hanging out in the general vicinity, and people would just take shots at him out of the blue for seemingly no reason.
Batman and Robin Eternal #3
It felt like he could barely breathe without someone criticizing him for it. At one point, Dick confesses that he’s feeling discouraged, and Damian’s response is to punch him in the face.
Batman and Robin Eternal #22
Which is a pretty good summary of the family’s treatment of him in these comics to be honest. Just literally, lashing out at him for zero reason while he just takes it.
One scene in particular that really frustrated me was this one:
Batman and Robin Eternal #5
You know, that other time in this comic series where one of Dick’s family members punches him in the face while he, once again, takes the hit and does nothing to retaliate. Good times.
For context...the big bad in these comics is a villain known as “Mother.” Her speciality is brainwashing. She placed several of her “children” in high-profile positions in order to enact her plans, even managing to infiltrate Spyral. In a message left for Dick, Batman specifically explains that “Anyone could be under her control, Dick. They could be people you know. People you love…they probably will be” (Batman and Robin Eternal #1).
Unlike in Pre-52, Tim’s background is largely a mystery. He’s acting suspiciously. So, Dick takes it upon himself to investigate and ensure that Tim’s not one of Mother’s plants.
On Tim’s side of things, he’s upset that Dick investigated behind his back and found out where he’d secretly had his parents living for their safety. Dick unintentionally brought danger to their doorstep (though, notably, no one was actually hurt). But Tim’s pissed, and punches Dick in the face.
Not gonna lie, this was hard to take. I mean, even if Tim was in the right in this argument (which he lowkey isn’t in my eyes), that still does not make it ok for him to just punch Dick out of the blue when Dick is, as pictured above, just talking to him.
And the hypocrisy that Tim is displaying here is stunning. How he had previously told Dick off for keeping secrets from the family by going undercover with Spyral, when he in fact had a whole secret family tucked away in a corner. How he tells Dick off now for invading people’s privacy, when just earlier in this very comic he had planted surveillance devices in Stephanie’s apartment without her consent.
Batman and Robin Eternal #2
How Tim storms off and goes on a solo mission with Jason because Dick’s supposedly too personally invested and thus compromised, when he just got so emotionally unhinged that he lost his shit at Dick and punched him. Once again, may I just say, simply stunning.
But does Tim ever face any consequences for this behavior? Oh, of course not! Instead, we get Jason joking about how great it is to punch Dick in the face when he is not even fighting back.
Batman and Robin Eternal #7
And everyone collectively piling on to Dick and blaming him, even though he had legitimate concerns. Awesome.
Batman and Robin Eternal #6
Batman and Robin Eternal #7
And Dick just continues to take it. Not once does he stand up for himself. It’s so hard to read him continually get shit on, I’m sorry. And it’s crazy how they treat him this way, and yet still ultimately look to him for encouragement and rely on him to save the day in the end? You hate to see it.
I also didn’t like what they did with Cass. I know, I’m just full of complaints. But they really watered her down. With Pre52 Cass, you could actually describe facets of her personality. She was compassionate, had a very refreshing, sassy sense of humor, etc. She wasn’t just...mysterious action girl who has a dark past and cries occasionally. I mean, there were moments where I could see glimpses of personality (the time she visited the ballet being the main one), but on the whole she punched people when needed, and otherwise just stood there as people talked about and around her. Essentially a prop for the story.
Batman and Robin Eternal #24
Another thing that makes me so uncomfortable (that I couldn’t pin down until I read this post here) is the fact that this comics version of events makes it so that Cass’ own backstory no longer has her as the focus; it’s not about her emotional struggles and journey. By having Cass kill Harper’s mother rather than a random man, it makes the story about Harper, and about Cass gaining Harper’s forgiveness. So...more using Cass as a prop...as an element of someone else’s story in what is supposed to be her origin!
Honestly, I have no idea why Cass would want to stay with the Bat-family in these comics anyway...her previous mentorship with Barbara Gordon is nonexistent. She’s no longer Batgirl. The two people who were once her closest friends treat her horribly.
Batman and Robin Eternal #3
Batman and Robin Eternal #4
As if she’s barely a person. Once again, sooooo hard to read this. Why.
Yeah, I could go on forever nitpicking here. You probably got a sense of it already, but I absolutely despise how Tim is characterized here. Most of the time, he’s an ass. Jason also had pretty inconsistent characterization. And I really don’t like how the whole comic treats Robin like something Batman owns and is meant to benefit from, rather than as something Dick created. I don’t like how Cain was “redeemed” in the end, and that Cass took on the name Orphan instead of Black Bat or Batgirl. Once again, how is she connected to the Bat-family exactly? And I don’t like how Dick’s time as Robin is portrayed.
The existence of this comic...drives me insane...
It’s also the worst time to be doing a “Does Batman treat his kids like child soldiers?” arc considering it is coming on the tail end of Spyral, aka that one thing that Dick did because Bruce beat the shit out of him and forced him to.
Nightwing #30
Looking through Batman’s speech to Dick there...some of the things he says to Dick are so uncomfortably close to what Cain says to Cass. Really horrible parallel there. Why DC.
I really don’t know why Dick was so certain that Bruce didn’t do something shady with Mother, as was implied throughout the comic, when Bruce had pulled the Spyral crap fairly recently. Idk why they didn’t play into that side of things. Like, the fact that this arc ends with Dick comforting Batman about them not being child soldiers:
Batman and Robin Eternal #26
Instead of Batman stepping up to reaffirm to Dick that he was a good partner and a trusted ally when he spent the whole comic being insulted by his family and being told this stuff by his enemies (and flashback!Batman):
Batman and Robin Eternal #8
Batman and Robin Eternal #12
Just sucks. I mean, Dick had just recently sacrificed everything (his family, his friends, his life, his identity, everything) to do as Batman wanted and go undercover, only to hear this over and over? To hear that none of it was enough? That he could never be enough? And Dick never gets reassurance that this isn’t true. This comic is just agonizing in so many ways.
Obviously, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I am not criticizing this to be a killjoy? Just venting. If you enjoy these comics, you are free to continue to do you. But I am never going to like them. And when I see people championing these books as the best the Bat-fam has to offer...oof is that hard to hear lmao! Surely we can do better than all this.
"character deserved better" (but they were never going to get it that's the stuff great tragedies are made of) vs "character deserved better" (but the writers really blew it)
The manor hasn't ever been drawn consistently in the comics, and every version shown in the movies is a different building in England/Scotland (we once got as close as a Jacobean-style mansion from New York), but if we try hard and believe in our squinting ability really really well, Crocker Mansion looks at least a little bit like this blueprint of Wayne Manor with Batcave. Crocker Mansion is also listed as Gothic Revival built in the early 1900s and Wayne Manor was built in the late 1800s, and, most importantly, it has 21 bedrooms (okay, most importantly it's from New Jersey like Gotham City) so I'm sold on it being visual inspo for Wayne Manor.
But like, these are also all Wayne Manor in the comics, so if we all agreed on Crocker Mansion at least we'd be somewhere lol
And we'd at least be in the right area geographically compared to the movies:
(The Braes, Glen Cove, New York; Mentmore Towers, Buckinghamshire, England; Wollaton Hall, Nottingham, England; Hartwood Hospital, Glasgow, Scotland)
I also found some more pics from when Crocker Mansion was for sale that need to be included for reference:
It's just perfect. I will be using this forever going forward. Thank you so much for this find.
Here is your monthly reminder that Amity Park is a city not a small town
They have a large town hall, a water park, a zoo, a ski run in the winter, from what I remember, enough open, unclaimed land to put a circus/fair on, and a medium-sized mall. We could have other high schools that we the viewers never learned about because they were not plot important. There is at least 4 public parks and also the zoo has enough funding to hold and house a heavily endangered species
It looks like the plot centers around a suburb of the larger city that is amity park
It's a smaller city, but it's definitely a city, likely a city that's on the outskirts of a larger city. For my own frame of reference, as a Jersey girl™, I see it as closer to something like New Brunswick, NJ, a city with a population of approx. 55,000 people and a size of 5.75 sq. mi, though I think Amity Park is just slightly larger, but that reference gives me a better vibe for Amity Park overall compared to other cities I'm familiar with.
For example, Amity Park has got a relatively smaller urban center with a few skyrises, but it's mostly just suburbs as seen in these shots:
Not that the urban center isn't well developed, just that the city is more sprawling than really tall/built up with lots of shorter buildings in the more metro areas of the city and many open lots/parking for individual businesses throughout.
It's got a big zoo, a big park, at least Casper Highschool, an observatory, two large theaters (Googolplex Cinemas and Marmel's Multiplex 22. I think they're supposed to be the same thing but let's just say they aren't), a few factories (Molasses factory and a mattress factory (though that might just be a store)), a penitentiary, a large two or three-story mall, a museum, an abandoned hospital (implying there is a newer one?), a mansion for the mayor, the fair grounds by the train tracks, an amusement park on the water, and a waterfront large enough for a docks/warehouse situation (likely around the river that sits between Amity Park and Elmerton, though I think, given the size of the ship docked in Amity Park, it has to be on the shore of the Great Lakes).
Bruce is one of the richest men in the world. Bruce does not want to be one of the richest men in world.
He starts by implementing high starting salaries and full health care coverages for all levels at Wayne Enterprises. This in vastly improves retention and worker productivity, and WE profits soar. He increases PTO, grants generous parental and family leave, funds diversity initiatives, boosts salaries again. WE is ranked “#1 worker-friendly corporation”, and productively and profits soar again.
Ok, so clearly investing his workers isn’t the profit-destroying doomed strategy his peers claim it is. Bruce is going to keep doing it obviously (his next initiative is to ensure all part-time and contractors get the same benefits and pay as full time employees), but he is going to have to find a different way to dump his money.
But you know what else is supposed to be prohibitively expensive? Green and ethical initiatives. Yes, Bruce can do that. He creates and fund a 10 year plan to covert all Wayne facilities to renewable energy. He overhauls all factories to employ the best environmentally friendly practices and technologies. He cuts contracts with all suppliers that engage in unethical employment practices and pays for other to upgrade their equipment and facilities to meet WE’s new environmental and safety requirements. He spares no expense.
Yeah, Wayne Enterprises is so successful that they spin off an entire new business arm focused on helping other companies convert to environmentally friendly and safe practices like they did in an efficient, cost effective, successful way.
Admittedly, investing in his own company was probably never going to be the best way to get rid of his wealth. He slashes his own salary to a pittance (god knows he has more money than he could possibly know what to do with already) and keeps investing the profits back into the workers, and WE keeps responding with nearly terrifying success.
So WE is a no-go, and Bruce now has numerous angry billionaires on his back because they’ve been claiming all these measures he’s implementing are too expensive to justify for decades and they’re finding it a little hard to keep the wool over everyone’s eyes when Idiot Softheart Bruice Wayne has money spilling out his ears. BUT Bruce can invest in Gotham. That’ll go well, right?
Gotham’s infrastructure is the OSHA anti-Christ and even what little is up to code is constantly getting destroyed by Rogue attacks. Surely THAT will be a money sink.
Except the only non-corrupt employer in Gotham city is….Wayne Enterprises. Or contractors or companies or businesses that somehow, in some way or other, feed back to WE. Paying wholesale for improvement to Gotham’s infrastructure somehow increases WE’s profits.
Bruce funds a full system overhaul of Gotham hospital (it’s not his fault the best administrative system software is WE—he looked), he sets up foundations and trusts for shelters, free clinics, schools, meal plans, day care, literally anything he can think of.
Gotham continues to be a shithole. Bruce Wayne continues to be richer than god against his Batman-ingrained will.
Oh, and Bruice Wayne is no longer viewed as solely a spoiled idiot nepo baby. The public responds by investing in WE and anything else he owns, and stop doing this, please.
Bruce sets up a foundation to pay the college tuition of every Gotham citizen who applies. It’s so successful that within 10 years, donations from previous recipients more than cover incoming need, and Bruce can’t even donate to his own charity.
But by this time, Bruce has children. If he can’t get rid of his wealth, he can at least distribute it, right?
Except Dick Grayson absolutely refuses to receive any of his money, won’t touch his trust fund, and in fact has never been so successful and creative with his hacking skills as he is in dumping the money BACK on Bruce. Jason died and won’t legally resurrect to take his trust fund. Tim has his own inherited wealth, refuses to inherit more, and in fact happily joins forces with Dick to hack accounts and return whatever money he tries to give them. Cass has no concept of monetary wealth and gives him panicked, overwhelmed eyes whenever he so much as implies offering more than $100 at once. Damian is showing worrying signs of following in his precious Richard’s footsteps, and Babs barely allows him to fund tech for the Clocktower. At least Steph lets him pay for her tuition and uses his credit card to buy unholy amounts of Batburger. But that is hardly a drop in the ocean of Bruce’s wealth. And she won’t even accept a trust fund of only one million.
Jason wins for best-worst child though because he currently runs a very lucrative crime empire. And although he pours the vast, vast majority of his profits back into Crime Alley, whenever he gets a little too rich for his tastes, he dumps the money on Bruce. At this point, Bruce almost wishes he was being used for money laundering because then he’s at least not have the money.
So children—generous, kindhearted, stubborn till the day they die the little shits, children—are also out.
Bruce was funding the Justice League. But then finances were leaked, and the public had an outcry over one man holding so much sway over the world’s superheroes (nevermind Bruce is one of those superheroes—but the public can’t know that). So Bruce had to do some fancy PR trickery, concede to a policy of not receiving a majority of funds from one individual, and significantly decrease his contributions because no one could match his donations.
At his wits end, Bruce hires a team of accounts to search through every crinkle and crevice of tax law to find what loopholes or shortcuts can be avoided in order to pay his damn taxes to the MAX.
The results are horrifying. According to the strictest definition of the law, the government owes him money.
Bruce burns the report, buries any evidence as deeply as he can, and organizes a foundation to lobby for FAR higher taxation of the upper class.
All this, and Wayne Enterprises is happily chugging along, churning profit, expanding into new markets, growing in the stock market, and trying to force the credit and proportionate compensation on their increasingly horrified CEO.
Bruce Wayne is one of the richest men in the world. Bruce Wayne will never not be one of the richest men in the world.
I'm now imagining Batman finally breaking down and admitting all of this to Clark in desperation, hoping that his friend can somehow have some insight into how to keep the Wayne fortune from continuing to grow unabated. Clark is initially skeptical, but hey, this could totally be a potential story for the Planet, and he loves investigative journalism, so he tips off Lois and they start researching whether it's truly impossible for Bruce Wayne to lose money.
Meanwhile, Batman has the 'brilliant' idea to just buy up a film studio and not engage in Hollywood accounting chicanery. But he's uninterested in meddling with the production of films, and the public flocks to movies unburdened by executives demanding 'surprise twists' that don't make sense and testing everything with a dozen focus groups before release. Batman is at his wits end when Clark shows up and announces that he's figured it all out, the one way Bruce Wayne can actually spend his fortune without ending up even weallthier.
All he has to do is fund supercolliders to produce and contain indefinitely a single gram of antimatter. And thanks to all of Wayne Industries' green energy projects, that's possible to do without causing massive pollution now, but it still would cost trillions of dollars for something of little to no practical use outside of science. (Using it to power a probe to another star is still science, but also kinda silly when Superman could just fly there even faster.)
Bruce (carefully folding report on "WayneSpaceSuperFountain" "Oh, hey, Kent. I'm glad you could drop by."
Clark (Confused as HECK by BRUCE wanting to talk to HIM- again) "It's no problem, Mister Wayne. Feel like another interview?"
Bruce (Smiles his absolute VACUUM headest smile): "Sort of. In reverse. You grew up around farmers, right? -Can I call you Clark? Just for now?"
Clark (Well, duh) "That's correct, yes. And sure thing, ah, Bruce."
Bruce (Whose baby blues are now hard as sapphires): "How- and be honest with me- how do I help farmers to NOT BE POOR?"
Clark (Total bluescreen) "Um. I, um. I'm not sure. What do you mean, exactly?"
Bruce (Carefully folding the WSSF report into quite a decent origami cow): "I can't give them money. And I mustn't loan them money. How do I help them not be poor?"
Tim, walking into the Batcave and noticing everyone’s distraught appearance: What’s wrong?? Who died??
Stephanie: We have bad news Tim. You should sit down.
Tim: Oh shit did someone actually die?? Who was it this time?
Dick: Remember that civilian that we catch trailing after us every so often? The one who was involved in the Penguin incident awhile ago?
Tim: Oh. Clarissa O’Neal? What about her?
Damian: She was taken hostage by one of Black Masks henchmen. We didn’t make it in time to save her.
Tim: ? And that’s why you guys are so upset? C’mon guys lighten up, it’s movie night
Jason, getting visibly pissed: What the Fuck dude. A civilian we were close to fucking died because we didn’t make it in time
Dick: I know you didn’t like her much but show a bit of empathy Timmy. You usually take these situations seriously
Tim: I’ve been trying to kill her off for ages. Why would I be upset??
Steph: Tim you have 10 seconds to fix your attitude before i fix it for you
Jason: Since when do you take people’s lives so lightly? Dude you need to leave before I do something i regret.
Tim: I didn’t know you guys were so attached to her. I could revive her if you want, but honestly it’s more effort than it’s worth. And she was getting unwanted attention from the rogues so she had to go.
Damian: Revive?? Timothy what are you on about? And why are you saying that like you personally set up her demise?
Tim: Because I did? The planning for it took forever but I have to admit everything went a lot better than I was expecting.
Dick: TIM WHAT—
Jason: WHAT THE HELL—
Damian: MURDER? You?!
Steph, screaming over everyone else: WAIT SHUT UP
Steph: TIM NO YOU DID NOT
Steph: TIM DON’T TELL ME YOU DID IT AGAIN
Dick: Again?!? What are you talking about?!
Steph, laughing: Guys calm down. HE was Clarissa
Tim: You guys didn’t know??
Jason: HOW WERE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT THE HISPANIC LOOKING WOMEN IN HER MID TWENTIES AND A CRIME ALLEY ACCENT WAS YOU
Dick: Tim i am THIS CLOSE to burning down your disguise room.
Damian: Timothy explain yourself
Tim: I had an undercover op that I needed a female field agent for a couple years ago to infiltrate penguins operations. Over time She became a bit too important and Black mask was threatening her. So I decided to kill her off. I got the info I needed already and it was becoming a bit of a drag keeping up appearances
Steph: You need to stop getting us emotionally invested in your aliases and then killing them off. This is the fourth time you did this to me. I’ll never forgive you for Alvin Draper, I still grieve him even though i know you’re alive!
Tim: YOU guys need to start recognizing me in disguise. Worlds greatest detectives MY ASS
Jason: DUDE YOU GAVE YOURSELF DOUBLE D’s WHY WOULD WE ASSUME THAT WAS YOU
Damian: My training in this area has been neglected. Timothy show me your disguise lair
Tim: Sure, after movie night. Let’s go
Dick: This is gonna bite us in the ass. Damian is already so good at impressions. We will never know if someone we are talking to is him or not
Tim: LMAO When i’m done with him? Yea everyone’s fucked
Steph: It’s gonna give Roger from American dad
Bruce from the corner: *Breathes a sigh of relief*
Bruce at the Batcomputer: *Sighs and moves Clarissa O’Neal from ‘Real Civilian Death’ folder to ‘Tim’s Fake Identities’ folder. Creates new folder labeled ‘Damian’s Fake Identities’
actual canon things that the teen titans (from the 60s) have called each other. No I’m not kidding. There’s even five hours’ worth of proof below the cut.
(I’ll edit this post as i continue reading the rest of the run, but here’s for #1-25, so if you see this as a rb, you might want to check the original post for updates)
keep in mind that the nicknames get tossed around, so really, there’s like one or two nicknames that are just between two people, whereas other nicknames are said by the whole team (in a very serious manner, too. They’ll be at the verge of death and it’s like “twinkletoes, catch!”)
Dick-
• “Big Brain”, “Genius” (in a non-sarcastic way) || Wally to Dick (SPECIFICALLY he has said “i dig you, genius!”
• “Robin-o!” “Robin-bobbin’” || Wally to Dick
• “Brainy” || Garth to Dick
• “Bug-eyes” || Wally to Dick
• “Boy Wonderful” || Wally to Dick
This isn’t a nickname but once Donna was asking who’d like to dance with her (they were like 14 max) and then Wally was busy, and Garth was reading, and Roy wasn’t in that issue, so Donna turns to Dick and he’s like “no, wonder chick! I have ___ to do” and DOnna’s like “Robin, you’re such a downer! BUt i forgive you- because you’re so cute!” and i just slkfdjksjgsg same
And this goes unsaid, but Dick’s got this hole “Holy ____!” thing going on, and it’s hilarious
Wally-
• “Boy Bullet” || Narrator to Wally
• “Twinkletoes” (sometimes spelled Twinkle Toes) || Dick started it, but then it stuck so now everyone calls him that
“Chuckle-brains” || Dick to Wally
• “Scarlet speedster” “Scarlet Jokester” || Dick to Wally
• “Kid flasheroo” (sometimes he just calls him ‘flasheroo’ || Dick (and occasionally garth) to Wally
Wally uses “old english” and he’s done it so much it just stuck to the other titans (wally also says ‘yo’ a lot)
• “Gnatskull” || Garth to Wally
• “Daring young man on the flying trampoline!” || Donna to Wally (in just this one issue)
• “Flasher” || Roy to Wally (and as they grow up that’s more of a consistent nickname)
• “Lover boy” || Donna to Wally
Donna-
• “WG” || I mean it stands for ‘wonder girl’ so i wasn’t going to add it but they DO say it a lot so-
• “Wonder gal” || Dick to Donna
• “Wonder Chick” || Literally all of them at some point to Donna. Yes really. the all call her things like that, but that’s the way their friendship rolls, you know? Beucause in other issues, other guys have tried to talk to donna like that, and donna beats the shit out of them if they push it too hard <3 They also call donna things like “Wonder Doll” and “baby”, “gorgeous” , “Doll” and things like that and honestly i think it’s cute (in return, she has called them things like “Handsome”, “Luv”, “Lover boy”. It’s not romantic, though (in the end of the run, Wally confessed his feelings for Donna, and she let him down gently, but this didn’t change their relationship in such an impactious way)
• “Doll-face” || Wally to Donna
• “Blue eyes” || Roy to Donna
Donna also says things like “Merciful Minerva!” and “Shades of Pluto!” “Great Hera!” Things like that.
Donna tends to say “Hola!” a lot and its so cute sfskjg
• “Wonder baby” || Wally to Donna
She also gets called things like ‘beautiful’ by the members, ALL the members of the titans, and I just think that’s really neat
• “My pretty miss” || Roy to Donna
• “Luv” || Wally to Donna (as you can see, there’s a crush going on here)
Garth-
• “Sea flea” “ Webfoot” (sometimes spelled web-foot) || Dick to garth
• “Gill-head” || Roy to Garth
• “Smarty-gills” || Donna to Garth
I’ve also noticed how Garth (aqualad) uses a lot of alliteration in like,,,, everything??? Boy will say “Holy hagfish!” or “Jumping Jackfish!” and “barrelling Barnacles” and “Murmin’ moonfish!” “Holy hammerheads!” “Leapin’ Lumpfish!” “howling houndfish!” “Draggin’ Dogfish!” and its just skjdfhskjfsdgkjs
Roy-
• “Boy Bowman” || Wally about Roy
• “shafty” || Dick to Roy
• “Handsome” || Donna to Roy
ps. there’s this one time they were taking a summer job as a team (by this time, roy was part of the team), and they were in their superhero costumes, and then Dick just pulls out swimsuits for everyone (because the summer job is in civvies) and i just found that beautiful because current batman has plans on how to destroy his teammates (just in case), and then Robin goes and buys swimsuits for his and i just skfskjrshtajrs (teen titans 1960s #11)
I also would like to bring to attention this one issue (issue #12) in which Donna is listening to the radio and she’s dancing, and she’s the only one that likes that station, and the guys just “Okay, you have fun, we’ll be downstairs training!” and i just like it a lot because they’re not like “you MUST. train with us, because you need to get better and-” … yeah. They’re just friends and I love that sosososososo much.
They also say things like “Boys” (Donna to rest), and “Gang”, and Dick usually says “team” when refrerring to them whole as a group, and it’s just my favourite thing because you can see how (unlike the rebirth and new52 teen titans), they’re all friends and they show so and it’s just so endearing okay?
andddd as promised, there are like 2098534520 panels below, with the nicknames (and some panels that just made me really happy) (they’re not in order and the captions are keyboard smashes so read at your own risk)
