You may refer to me as my handle and my handle only. Any pronouns, for anonymity. I know how easy it is to get attacked, so you may not know how to address me.
That being said, thank you for taking a look at my blog.
I genuinely don't think it matters if parents love their kid or not, honestly. It truly doesn't matter, as love is just an emotion, and your emotions truly do not matter when it comes to the wellbeing of other people. Your actions do.
It doesn't matter how much love you have for your kid, how much you just wanted to protect them and give them the best life they could... if you abuse them, you abused them. If you hit your kid, screamed at your kid, sexualized your kid, and you take 0 accountability for it because you love them, you are no better than a parent that despises their child or doesnt care for their child and does the same thing. As they like to say, facts do not care about your feelings. Harm is still harm when it comes from a loving heart.
Not only this is not true, thinking in that way is many times what makes an abuser keep abusing their victim. "I love them, so I can't possibly be harming them". Bad actions don't just come from bad intentions, and in order to be a better person, you need to acknowledge that. But that is scary, because then you are acknowledging that you too are never above hurting people. You too will hurt people, just like everyone, and we must accept that if we ever want to become better people
I genuinely don't think it matters if parents love their kid or not, honestly. It truly doesn't matter, as love is just an emotion, and your emotions truly do not matter when it comes to the wellbeing of other people. Your actions do.
It doesn't matter how much love you have for your kid, how much you just wanted to protect them and give them the best life they could... if you abuse them, you abused them. If you hit your kid, screamed at your kid, sexualized your kid, and you take 0 accountability for it because you love them, you are no better than a parent that despises their child or doesnt care for their child and does the same thing. As they like to say, facts do not care about your feelings. Harm is still harm when it comes from a loving heart.
Not only this is not true, thinking in that way is many times what makes an abuser keep abusing their victim. "I love them, so I can't possibly be harming them". Bad actions don't just come from bad intentions, and in order to be a better person, you need to acknowledge that. But that is scary, because then you are acknowledging that you too are never above hurting people. You too will hurt people, just like everyone, and we must accept that if we ever want to become better people
Protect Internet Freedom from now until forever. It's important existentially! Americans stand with UK citizens in our struggle against government censorship
You guys have my whole heart for sharing this I had no idea will be filling this out and encourage all my fellow brits to do soo too. If you’re not from the UK please keep sharing this around we have till the 26th May to submit these in.
This whole thing was set up without our say we all need to make sure we’re heard.
Transandrobros seriously need to go touch some grass. You’re not oppressed for being men :)
Me, touching grass: wow why am I getting raped at extraordinary rates and why am I being forced to carry a pregnancy in order to detransition me and am refused both care for that pregnancy and to get an abortion. Beats me. Anyway this sure is nice out here in the real world.
it's not because you're men (which you are), it's because of misogyny. we live in a transphobic world where trans men are seen as failed women who need to be fixed. transandrophobia is real but please don't go full mra
Also, I don't know if you know, but trans men are men because they are trans and trans because they are men. So. This is both because they are trans and men. A lot of trans men get thrown into harsh physical labor, forced to do it, to get told "this is for being a man" or something. Like what's happening in ICE facilities
why is it that ppl hear "fetish" and immediately think "devoid of morals" like ur genuinely not making sense. ppl dont actually become inhuman and beast-like when theyre turned on, thats something we are told bc it aligns with christian patriarcal values, u know that right? desire isnt actually bad. it doesnt make you evil, or incapable of having/respecting boundaries
i got a response to this abt how men get horny and "lose their minds" and "causes" them to behave vile. i rlly rlly neeeeed ppl to understand that men behaving inappropriately when turned on is something they are *choosing* to do, and when you equate that to human nature you are enabling them and diminishing the seriousness of that choice
I thiiiiiink it's because of the word "fetishizing". It might not be JUST because of that word (most probably), but I am pretty sure that this word helps, even though it describes a real thing that happens
Hi Sophie. You wanna be a coward and screenshot our posts instead of reblogging? Then I'll do the same.
First point- "If you're a traumagenic system, this really isnt your call to make."
Big wrong buzzer. We are a mixed origins system. Just like you! Specifically stressgenic, traumagenic, anxietygenic, and willogenic, with a sprinkle of addgenic & bombogenic added into the mix.
Second- the comparison to TERFS. First of all, We are collectively transmale. What the fuck. Don't compare us to TERFS.
Plus, systemhood isnt inherently queer. So your comparison is already invalid. Why? Because there's no correlation. Nothing to relate back to.
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Again, not just traumagenic. Plus, Bigotry doesnt have a preference. ANYONE can experience bigotry, in any way, shape, or form.
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[Related to Venomshank's post.]
Can you blame us for some sense of hope for the online plurality sphere, when ourselves had a positive experience with an anti-endo? They were kind, and asked us questions about our plurality, and didn't immediately say how our plurality is invalid. They were open to our opinons. So yes, we do really want it. We wish for people to have that experience as well- to have discussions of plurality without the disgusting vitriol that is harassment and threats.
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Gotta love that mob mentality. "We're all in agreement about that, right?" You want your bootlickers to come up and immediately agree with you so you get that high you need.
And yes. It is our plurality that is being challenged. And our partner system's. We want to have peaceful discussions because everyone deserves a peaceful moment. Not all anti endos are terrible harassers and people who threaten anyone that disagrees with them, or whatever you've called them in the past. Anti endos are still PEOPLE. People who deserve to have their opinions heard, in a peaceful enviroment.
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We know who you're referring to. We may not have all the context with whatever the hell went down in the GOP, but you just can't seem to stop referencing Cambrian Crew, can you?
Big wrong buzzer. We are a mixed origins system. Just like you! Specifically stressgenic, traumagenic, anxietygenic, and willogenic, with a sprinkle of addgenic & bombogenic added into the mix.
Just like us? We're purely endogenic. 100%!
You could say we're also tulpagenic or something, but that's just a subset.
Meanwhile, this is how you identify on your blog...
All I knew before my post was how you choose to present yourself, which is not as mixed origin.
Second- the comparison to TERFS. First of all, We are collectively transmale. What the fuck. Don't compare us to TERFS.
Please learn some reading comprehension. The anti-endos would be the TERFs in this analogy. You'd be the cis gays saying they were cool with TERFs existing as long as the TERFs are respectful!
Plus, systemhood isnt inherently queer. So your comparison is already invalid. Why? Because there's no correlation. Nothing to relate back to.
Genuinely, do you have any critical thinking ability whatsoever?
The comparison isn't even about being queer... You could just as easily change it to the male feminists declaring they don't mind misogynists who are respectful. Or an ally to Jewish people wanting peaceful discussion with antisemites.
The comparison is between a marginalized group, allied outsiders to that group, and people opposed to that group.
Plus, Bigotry doesnt have a preference. ANYONE can experience bigotry, in any way, shape, or form.
Right... but anti-endos are specifically bigoted against endogenic systems, and they're the group you are fine with.
And I think your strong reaction to the comparison with TERFs proves the point. Because that's something you're experiencing bigotry from. I think it's pretty clear that you would not be fine at all with cis trans-allies preaching for peace between TERFs and trans people.
Gotta love that mob mentality. "We're all in agreement about that, right?" You want your bootlickers to come up and immediately agree with you so you get that high you need.
I notice this isn't a denial! 🤣
Not going to try to sell that one? No "yeah, I'd actually totally be cool with endogenic systems questioning the origins of traumagenic systems, and would still be preaching they all get along and live in peace."
And yes. It is our plurality that is being challenged.
You identify as traumagenic. You make no mention in your bio of being mixed origin. Traumagenic is how you identify.
While I won't deny you having some endogenic origins, you also clearly have no problem concealing that as necessary. It's something secondary to who you are.
Labels like stressgenic and anxietygenic can fit neatly under that traumagenic label as needed. Your willogenic members were probably created later in life. And while the label of willogenic is going to be controversial, there are plenty of anti-endos who acknowledge traumagenic systems can form headmates intentionally.
Aside from the labels you use, your origins are not really going to be controversial to anti-endos. Anti-endos fully believe that a traumatized person can split alters from anxiety and stress later in life. So to them, it's just traumagenic under a different label.
This isn't something so easy for purely endogenic systems like us who didn't form until adulthood. Or even mixed origin systems whose mixed origins are wholly incompatible with the trauma model, like those with some spiritual origins. Or even traumagenic systems who were formed from trauma in adulthood and therefore don't fit neatly into the structural dissociation model.
Not all anti endos are terrible harassers and people who threaten anyone that disagrees with them, or whatever you've called them in the past. Anti endos are still PEOPLE. People who deserve to have their opinions heard, in a peaceful enviroment.
Similar could be said about other bigots. Not literally every single TERF harasses and threatens people who disagree with them. And from certain points of view, TERFs can even still be considered "people."
We know who you're referring to. We may not have all the context with whatever the hell went down in the GOP, but you just can't seem to stop referencing Cambrian Crew, can you?
No... actually...
Cambrian doesn't identify as traumagenic. I am in no way referring to them at all in that post. 🤣
Sophie, fuck off from our lives.
I always find it interesting how people will talk shit about you regularly on their blogs, but will cry foul the moment you mention them a couple times. 🙄
Oh, you finally decided to show your face! How fun.
We take fault on that. Our host forgot to do our actual origin, due to heavy dissasociation when he made the post. He had purely forgotten our actual origins, I (Windforce) made sure he fixed it.
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The comparison became being queer when you decided to use TERFS as a comparison. And yes, we infact do have critical thinking- thank you. We're the first in our family to actually go to college and not drop out.
And even still- those comparisons are still not good here. The feminist argument isnt related to mental health like systemhood is. A religous identity isnt related to systemhood. (Although you could stretch that for tulpamancy, since as far as we know, tulpamancy originated as a spiritual practice.)
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Yet anti endos can still experience bigotry from endo systems. Why? What if they want to change. What if they want to hear from the other side, and to become more open minded. But they try to contact an endo and get immediately attacked and harassed. Boom, bigotry.
Plus, we've never had experience with trans allies irl. So we can't speak on that second point.
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We've never seen a single anti endo who acknowledges traumagenic systems can form headmates intentionally.
- Plus, we don't "conceal" it. Our host literally just forgot.
-- On the willo'd members, we've only known what willogenic is for half a year. We could've been willo'ing members much early on and we'd have no goddamn clue.
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And they still are people. Anti endos deserve to be heard, and if they prove to be peaceful- taught about endos. There's too much harassment and hate in online system spaces, and not enough learning about why a system identifies as such, and eventual acceptance of the other side. Hell, an "agree to disagree" stance would be fine. We havent had our own experiences with TERFS, but we know what they are. We just can't speak on it- either way, we were still raised to hear the other side out first. If an anti endo was willing to hear us out about endogenic plurality, then we'd talk to them. We're open to teaching them.
Yo, I come here in peace because I kind of agree with both parties here, so Imma just say my thoughts nicely without agression or stuff like that
Yes, all bigots can change and become better people. I have seen that happening time and time again. The idea that they cant is very deterministic, and what keeps them in the culty far right spaces, because even if they change, they might think that they have nowhere else to go. Cult-like spaces (fitting the BITE model) can not only be religious, but political too. See The AltRight Playbook for more information
The anger is justifiable, though. Not everyone will have the bandwidth to deal with those who take a stance against our very existence, and nobody is really entitled to that
About the comparition, I think a closer comparision would be between anti endos and inclusive perisex dysphoric binary trans people who are okay with transmeds existing
Claiming that systems cannot and should not engage in any spiritual practice and/or religious belief is pluralphobia and ableist. Yes, if you are communicating with spirits and deities there is discernment needed but telling systems flat out that theyre not allowed to do so is very gross and weird :)
Its also very weird to immediately start lecturing someone completely unprompted on having said discernment when you find out theyre a system in spiritual spaces
And also some people's plurality is spiritual, so ppl should really mind their own business when it comes to how some people interact with metaphysical entities. Godshards, for example, are okay
Ik you probably won't post this, but I know you'll see it.
Furries are weird af and nasty, YOU ARE A HUMAN NOT AN ANIMAL. Please don't dehumanize and disrespect yourself like this.
It's just so incredibly degrading to watch a human refer to themself as an animal, and if you do genuinely feel like an animal, then that's a mental health problem. If it's just a pretend, then that's extremely degrading and embarrassing to watch.
That's all byeeeee!
Break out the party hats, fellas, we got our first anon hate! A real milestone, I'm not joking when I say this made me feel accomplished.
That being said. I'm sure you aren't interested in being educated, given…everything, but I'll give it a shot.
"Ik you probably won't post this, but I know you'll see it" First off, wrong. Get posted. Second, you're just openly admitting this is a personal attack. And…I'm not hurt at all, so it didn't work. Good job buddy 👍
"Furries are weird AF and nasty" Yeah, some of us are, and that's great. No generalising, thank youuu. We don't do that around these parts.
"You are a human not an animal, please don't dehumanise and disrespect yourself like this" Okay, first off, this is a poor understanding of what a furry is. Many of us don't believe we're animals, that's a whole other thing entirely, which is also just as awesome and doesn't deserve hate. Second, thanks for your concern, but if someone is dehumanising themself, I'm pretty sure they're okay with it. As long as we aren't being disrespected, though Can you imagine?
It's not degrading. Like…there's no debate there, that's just a fact.
And, if you're embarrassed by us, keep doing that. Furries'll always be the ones having fun and being ourselves. You can't ruin that :3
To summarise…this is the pinnacle of anthromisia. And probably…ableism, I'm guessing? With the mental health comment.
Why are bigots always so whiny about their bigoted boundaries?
People can break your DNI for any reason!
Including, notably, thinking DNIs are stupid and cowardly, and are an excuse to avoid criticism for your own bigotry!
It just so happens that syscourse is a discourse tag frequented by people who very much like to argue, and do not care about your DNIs one bit!
It's not that posting in the syscourse tag gives an excuse for people to break your DNI. Nobody needs one because it's a fake and bigoted boundary you made up, and shouldn't be respected! It's that posting in the syscourse tag exposes those posts to said discourse community!
The Mitsudia Deception... The Biggest Lie in Syscourse
I was writing a longer document that I hoped would explain the whole situation with everything Dia has done, why I believed Dia did it, and how Dia and its friends acted when its wrongdoing was called out.
But it's been taking a while because there is just SO much information now. So much to talk about. So much that I feel needs called out. And while I think it's important to cover everything...
The ones that need to see the evidence right now already know a lot of this.
I don't need to explain to you that Pantheon, the troll blog posting about Mitsuki being raped and killing herself, was Mitsuki. You're already fully aware. Even if none of you admitted it publicly. I'm sure you also already suspected DownWithOkimi and DownWithCorine long before I realized those were Mitsuki. There is no question in your minds that Mitsuki is absolutely the type of person who would do this.
Do I need to explain Dia's character to any of you? Would any of you who watched Dia's public crashout after trying to rig the syscourse bracket by making over 75 fake accounts actually doubt that Dia would do something like this???
Character-wise, you have two people who have both repeatedly proven themselves to be manipulators who each absolutely would be the type of person to make sockpuppet accounts to support themselves.
Who is who
Since a lot of names will be popping up here, these are a few relevant aliases that are known to be associated with these blogs. I'm using "aliases" to refer to alters, name changes, blog names, etc. Anything these were known to go by that people might refer to them as. The list is not exhaustive. But it's so you can read the posts below and hopefully be able to follow who is who.
Mitsuki's known aliases: Mitsuki, Okimi, Kitti, Corine, Mitsukiisys, SryslyKitti, CorinesCorner, LilMoonz (This is Mitsuki's main that she used to DM her "friends")
The Likely Reason Dia Made Mitsuki
I will say one thing on Dia's motives here. Mitsuki popped up during a period when Dia was out of syscourse. The Mitsukisys blog was more endo-neutral than anti-endo.
In this way, I think Dia was being somewhat truthful about this part...
When Dia's views shifted to being more open-minded towards endogenic systems... instead of jumping headfirst into changing stances... I think Dia made Mitsuki and roleplayed as Mitsuki's system to build a foothold in the endo-neutral community.
This is probably how it started.
Muddled Meetings...
After a little bit of pretending to be Mitsuki, Dia decided to come back as itself.
This was very clearly the introduction between the two. Their first meeting. Mitsuki literally starts it by saying "I do not know you" and "I never knew the old you." Dia responds by saying "we saw you in the tags," and added the emotional "#got me choking up" tag at the end.
Both of these people are acting as if they never met before and had no idea who the other is.
Dia since claimed in the Galaxy of Plurals server that it knew Mitsuki from fandom stuff before Mitsuki's syscovery.
And again reiterates knowing them from fandom stuff while arguing that this would be out of character for Mitsuki.
(All of Mitsuki's friends, of course, agreed that it would very much be in character for Mitsuki.)
In Dia's public posts, Dia claimed to have known Mitsuki for 5+ years.
History has been rewritten!
Dia forgot when it was supposed to have met Mitsuki, and invented a narrative at some point that they had been longtime friends who met before Mitsuki even knew she was a system.
Wait now... what's that about stealing art???
So in other words, Mitsuki used art on one of its accounts, and then the redacted user found this art on Dia's JJBA blog and assumed it was Mitsuki's account.
Dia's official story is that Mitsuki's art was stolen from it.
Also, while circumstantial, pay close attention to how authoritatively Dia says this. Dia is... super confident this person who it claimed elsewhere had it blocked since October doesn't have a JJBA blog.
Spilling The Beans! 🫘
Both have talked about having a cat named Bean.
While this picture was taken in after the account was already banned, members of the server should be able to attest this was Kitti. Which is also backed up by an image of the deleted user here talking about Mitsuki as their former host:
And here's a picture using Mitsuki's icon that appears to be the same exact cat.
This is pretty definitively Mitsuki's cat.
Dia has talked about having a cat named Bean on its kink writing blog, @/RivetWrites, and on its Kofi account.
Oh, and Dia... if you're reading this... please feed your cat regardless of whether you get Kofi donations! Or give it to someone who will!
Dia also shared this Kofi on its solarxsystem account, just in case anybody doubted this was the same Dia.
(Though longtime syscoursers should remember when Dia used the bluexhaze account. Also, we strongly believe the Doxxing it talks about was fake too, but that can wait for another time.)
Mitsuki used to use It/its pronouns
One of Dia's defenses has been that it's "transphobic" to call Dia Mitsuki because they use different pronouns. Dia uses it/its pronouns while Mitsuki uses she/her pronouns. But this wasn't always the case. Mitsuki used to use it/its pronouns as their system's collective pronoun back in 2023. It's likely Dia changed this later after Dia came back as itself and wanted to help differentiate itself from the character it made up. But you can see how Mitsuki's pronouns were listed below.
And if you'd direct your attention to the name in the red box... Does that seem familiar to anyone?
Yup...
That time Mitsuki asked someone to add them on Roblox and just used Dia's account...
Now, speaking of Mitsuki's Discord, let's talk about this...
You might have noticed in the RivetWrites post that Xephan is one Dia's aliases.
And if you search for the account on Roblox, you can see it's now been renamed to "juataguy," but the account name is "@/DiaSchmia."
Zuka was very confused at trying to friend Mitsuki on Roblox only to find it was Dia's account.
Yeah! I bet that would feed Dude's conspiracy!
Wait... Can you tell us more about that Kofi thing?
We're all very confused about what this means exactly...
Please simplify!
OH!
Okay!
I get it now!
So Mitsuki makes a Kofi for people to pay for commissions... but the place where you would contact Mitsuki to make those commissions is Dia's blog... which Mitsuki doesn't have access to and couldn't see the commissions from?
Have I got all that right???
Yeah! I bet Dia WOULD want that kept private!
Yeah! I bet Dia IS tired of everything being publicized!
Dia and Mitsuki are the same exact race/ethnicity
Both have claimed to be Tibetan/Japanese/White Americans. A very rare combination of a racial/ethnic mix in the US.
Catherine already did a statistical analysis of the improbabilities here:
💬 0 🔁 3 ❤️ 6 · Some numbers to think about. · So, Sophie and SAS think Mitsuki and Pxnk are the same person. How ‘bout that, huh?
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And in my opinion... Catherine was way overly generous with some of these estimates. 2% odds of being Tibetan when Tibetans would be estimated to make up about 0.008% of the US population.
Another factor is that both have claimed in the past to live in conservative areas, which makes it less less likely considering that most Tibetan and Japanese communities are grouped into large liberal cities.
They're the same age!
Yes, we all know they're both 22...
But what I mean is...
They're the exact same age!
Mitsuki's system posted its age before on Disocord... (The {oki} indicates Okimi.)
The other one... took a bit more to find since it's based on a deleted blog.
It was apparently saved a long time ago. This is Momogramscorner... another blog associated with the name Xephan!
It mentions May 14th and people are wishing it a happy birthday, but there are no dates because the Wayback Machine is just like that...
But if we look at the metadata, we can see exactly when the posts were made...
On May 14th, 2020, Monogramscorner posted "Happy Birthday to Me."
Hey wait... MomogramsCorner? Does that sound familiar to anyone else?
The Final Smoking Gun... Monogrxm
When I first heard about monogramscorner, I thought the name sounded familiar. It sounded like another blog of Dia's that once used a similar name. But it wasn't this one. And I was sure the blog I was thinking of had an X replacing one of the letters, as Dia is very fond of doing.
So I did a Tumblr search.
And guess what I found?
Thank you Circ, for being the final piece to this puzzle, saving both this post mentioning monogrxm as Dia's account...
And confirming it yourself...
Because... next I found this.
Lilmoonz. Mitsuki's main.
And to those who don't know this connection, Dude provided a screenshot of Mitsuki DMing him.
Looking at the blocklist, it appears some sysmeds got removed, leading to Monogrxm's account moving up a couple positions to 577. You can see there what the account was known by at the time...
DiaCrash.
LilMoonz wasn't even a new account!
Dia just renamed an old account!
Dia Wasn't A Mastermind
With all said and done, I don't want the narrative to feed into Dia's ego with some idea of Dia being a mastermind who ingeniously played everyone.
The truth is that Dia was incredibly stupid with all of this. Dia made a million mistakes, leaving a massive paper trail even with so many accounts it deleted. And I'm sure we probably only uncovered a fraction of them.
Dia was a stupid drunk loser who couldn't even remember most of the lies it told and was unable to keep its story straight.
Dude suspected Dia was Mitsuki for years, told his friends about it, and was ignored and brushed off. He was treated as if he was crazy for suggesting it, and many of you even went so far as to suggest the very valid connections he made were racist or bigoted.
And when you saw clear red flags, like the Roblox thing or the Kofi account, you continued to brush it off.
Dia carrying on this deception was NOT a success on Dia's part. It was a failure on the part of the rest of the community.
Acknowledgements:
I'll give a special thanks to everyone who helped bring this together, even if I won't say who you are for your own safety. Know that your contributions were invaluable to putting this together. And Clover for everything as well, especially the information from the Galaxy of Plurals server that led to finding the inconsistencies in Dia's timeline for meeting Mitsuki.
And most of all, to Dude, who brought this to my attention when I hadn't even suspected it before. This wouldn't have happened without you. And I'm sorry the people you trusted with this before didn't believe you.
Having proship, cringe culture and purity culture in the same DNI is just hypocritical. It sounds like "you can be anti purity culture but in the RIGHT ways ONLY."
Being anti purity/cringe culture is literally what proship/profic stands for.
