#bud hyde

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Hi there!

Do you know if there were ever plans to have Hyde's mother appear in additional episodes? Think we only see her once for the career episode, although her voice was heard on certain episodes, and she was referenced at times. Her character was awful, but thought the actress portraying her was fantastic. Would have liked to see her come back instead of Bud making an appearance. His character to me was blah, but guess they wanted us to see more of Hyde's background.

Thank you.

Edna is quite present throughout season 1. She's mentioned a lot by the characters long before we ever see her or hear her voice; we're given details, etc, all of which characterizes her. Her portrayal by Katey Sagal in "Career Day" (1x18) is fantastic, and that episode depicts her complex dynamic with Hyde clearly.

We hear her voice in "Prom Night" (1x19), and her line, "They're all going to laugh at you!" is from the movie version of Steven King's Carrie. Also, when Jackie asks if she should to go inside to meet her, Hyde says sarcastically, "Trust me, she's lovely." This exchange is revealing of both Hyde's relationship with Edna and a depth to Jackie Hyde (and the audience) hadn't yet seen before.

In "Punk Chick" (1x22 -- should've been 1x21 narratively, but Fox switched the airing order), we hear Edna's voice again when Hyde decides to leave for NYC. She says, "Nothing in this house is yours!"

As T7S season 1 kept getting orders for more episodes until it was a complete season of twenty-five (I miss those days), it had three season finales. The first is "Grandma's Dead," which got pushed much later in the airing order once more episodes were ordered. The second is "A New Hope," where the cliffhanger is Eric and Donna's relationship -- are they going to be together or broken up in season 2? But with the final order of episodes, that conflict/cliffhanger was never mentioned as if it never happened.

The third and actual season finale is "The Good Son" (1x25). Before that episode is "Hyde Moves In" (1x24), where we learn his mother has abandoned him for good.

Despite her lack of visual screen-time in S1, Edna is present throughout it in different ways, leading to her character's end on the show.

During season 3, by contrast, Hyde was originally supposed to have a full arc with Bud, as portrayed by Robert Hays. They have only two episodes, though, and that might've been due to Hays's availability. That's an educated guess. Regardless of the reason, the deeper arc between Hyde and Bud was scrapped.

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Jackie Hyde, circa 2004, on an episode of Wife Swap.

Meet Jackie Hyde, a proud talk show host from Chicago, Illinois. Her husband Hyde, of twenty-two years, may have grown up in a ragged blue collar dystopia, but now? He's doing well, shaking up the white collar life, with his wife and their children, Becca, 18, and James, 16, firmly by his side.

Will Darlene Rogers continue to shake up the white-collar life, with a laid-back, blue-collar twist akin to Hyde's troubled past? Will she be able to open the eyes of the seemingly spoiled Hyde kids, one who consistently lingers on the wrong side of the law, and take them to shovel manure?

James (with a smirk): This is a great place to grow some Mary Jane.

Becca (with a similar smirk): And that greenhouse is the perfect place…

Darlene (handing them shovels): Well, you're not doing any of that.

*****

Hyde, Becca, and James are shoveling manure.

Hyde: My stepdad, who I thought was my real dad for nineteen years, came from a long line of pig farmers. *With a groan* He took me to the pig farm to shovel manure when I was misbehavin'.

Becca: But your real dad is rich.

James: And he's way cooler.

Hyde (with a smile): Yep.

*****

Meet Darlene Rogers, a proud pig farmer from rural Kansas. She grew up in a trailer park, and is laid-back and is an off-the-cuff conservative. She and her husband Clyde have been scraping by for years, with the help of their five children; Shelby, 16, Cody, 14, Hunter, 13, Landon, 11, and Cheyenne, 9.

Shelby wants to go to college to be a lawyer and is dating a boy "from Topeka" named Jacob, who Darlene and Clyde disapprove of, for his "white collar attitude." Cheyenne is a tomboy ala Scout Finch, and loves to wrestle with her brothers. Will Jackie take to Shelby and Jacob, the latter of which eerily resembles her son, and will Jackie teach Cheyenne the ways of stereotypical femininity? And will Jackie have to keep shoveling manure for the next week?

Jackie: I am not shoveling manure for the rest of the time I'm here! We're hiring some help this week, and we're taking Shelby to look at colleges, and we're taking her to a job fair!

Shelby smiles.

*****

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That ‘70s Show Families (1/6): The Hydes: Edna, Bud & Steven Hyde

Edna: I raised you alone. Hyde: Alone? Hardly. There was "uncle" Chet, and "uncle" Larry, and, oh, yeah, "uncle" hot tub Johnny.

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The Four Food Groups

I just love the way Red backs what Kitty says to Bud without saying a word.

Season 3, Episode 9: Hyde’s Christmas Rager

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Some things Red says are weird

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Steven Hyde and family, part 1 [Hydes]

Hyde has three families. He has the one he grow up thinking was his, the Hydes, then he got the Formans, and finally the Barnetts. I won’t be talking about the Formans because we see in the show a lot about them and well, the family he interacts with is the main we see.

This means I’ll be talking about the Hydes and the Barnetts. In this first post, I’m going to focus only in the Hydes + Edna’s family.

In several ocasions, Hyde mentions the kind of family he grow up. He was constantly abused by both his parents, both were alcoholic assholes that couldn’t care less about him. 

Bud, his stepfather, didn’t knew Hyde wasn’t his biological son, but mentions to doubt it in season 3 when, once Hyde sees him at the bar he has been working in, he is introduced as Hyde’s father and he says something among the lines of, “or that’s what his mother said”.

You can argue it was make for the laughs, but in context and seeing what happens at the end of season 6/beginning of season 7, we can assume Bud did suspect Hyde wasn’t truly his son.

Hyde’s relationship with Bud is painfull to look at. He left when Hyde was nine years old, an age most kids tend to look up at their parents, and for what we are told and what we can see, this affected little Hyde deeply. His anger when he finds out his father has been in Point Place for a year and hasn’t reach out to him is also an indicator of this.

Once he accepts to go with his dad, we can see that he is trying hard for their relationship to be “normal”, one of father-son like the one he has seen his friends, espcifically Eric, to have with their own parents. But once again, Bud abandons him. We know that relationship sucks.

Then, is Edna. 

Edna Hyde can be seen as one of the biggest turn points for Hyde. She is his mother and like any child, there was a time when Hyde loved her, he probably still does deep down. He understood at a young age that he wasn’t wanted and that his ma wasn’t exactly the best.

He used to take offense when someone trash talked his mother, even when we do know the nickname ‘gross Edna’ was well put and that she was just-- horrible. In a way, I feel like this is that way because Hyde still cares about his mother at that point, even when later that season she abandones him, too.

Edna leaving him changes everything. He goes to a better place but with a broken heart and crashed spirit. Hyde changes from season 1-2 because of inconscistent writing, but one can find subtext characterization in a shift between the moment he realized his mother had abandoned him and the rest of his life.

This relationship is rather complicated than just not good. It’s unhalthy and one sided, to put a level to it. And had Hyde the chance to comfront his mother, he may had been able to finally move on from her, the impact she had in his life, and else.

But he didn’t.

Most his trust issues come from seeing his parent’s marriage going to hell and them leaving him behind so easily like if he was nothing, a replasable object they couldn’t care about at all.

In the show, we are told Bud leaves Hyde again to get together with Edna. They leave together without telling him, without wanting him. Some fans don’t take this as canon, but for this meta and headcanon we will. And with this, I can only say that Hyde’s relationship with his parents suck.

What he mentions about the rest of his family is having an uncle in jail, and that the other two Stevens in his family are also in jail. Other than that, we know nothing.

The Hydes sound like an unlikely family, troublemakers that probably thought they didn’t have a future but to become criminals or something of the likes. This would explain why he thinks his future may lay on being in jail at some point, and also why other people seem to believe that (”we believe he may be the smartest guy on his sell block”, reads a report an actual teacher wrote of him in junior high).

We can say that his relationship with them isn’t good.

Now, my headcanons? Well, I share lots of these with my good friend Lisa (those70scomics / MistyMountainHop), so these may sound familiar to you all.

I have thought of an uncle from Bud’s side that cared about him and he had a good relationship with him. The man is still problematic in the sense that he also has an alcohol problem and probably will be up for a flash robbery, and so.

He has other uncles and aunts, mostly on Bud’s side. He doesn’t had many contact with Edna’s side because she had a bad relationship with them, but knows Edna’s older sister, who wasn’t that bad but still he never liked her that much.

Honestly, I’m more interested in the Barnetts, so be aware of that long ass post.

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From @supernannygirl704things about this post:

Wow!! Love the new Rhonda!! Old one was great too, always loved the comic version of her outfit but I am loving the new Rhonda’s hair!!

Bravo!!

Thank you so much, Prissy! Rhonda’s original design was made during my, “I won’t be creating the comics long enough for the art to be that important. Just make the characters recognizable as themselves,” phase. But now I put more effort and care into the character designs.

I’ve drawn new or revised versions of Midge, Bud Hyde, Casey Kelso, John Kelso, Pam Macy (and, perhaps, some others...).

[thestupidhelmet]

Do you think the writers had more plans for Bud beyond his two appearances in Season 3? It always felt like they were planning to do more with him, with him actually taking Red's advice in the Christmas episode ("... and eat a banana, dumbass!"), but then either they couldn't come up with anything else, or Robert Hayes suddenly became unavailable or something. Hyde moving back in with the Formans in S4 unannounced always made me think something changed BTS...

I believe so, yes. I think Bud was supposed to have an important arc with Hyde, particularly after Hyde's arc with Jackie concluded in "Jackie Bags Hyde" (3x08) during season 3. "Hyde's Father" and "Hyde's Christmas Rager" definitely point to this conclusion. How that originally planned arc would have ended is anyone's guess.