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who wants to test my quiz?
What path do you follow within your heart? (TW discussions of death, slightly scary images on some results - skulls, puppet hands)
lemme know what you got, what you like and what you think I should change!
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I think there’s an important difference between the rigid “this is the law and I follow the law because the law is Good and Right and Just, and I follow them whether or not I agree with them because I trust the system” brand of Lawful Good, and the kind of innocent “I do good because it’s good to do good, and I like to do good, and this is what I was taught is good, so this is what I do” brand of Lawful Good.
Peter is like the most true neutral character I think I’ve ever seen. His only motivation is his own desire. He doesn’t care about right or wrong. He doesn’t care either way about the rules. He just wants what he wants for him.
He will help his family, friends, enemies, strangers. He will destroy his family, friends, enemies, strangers. He will support laws and rules. He will break laws and rules.
Peter Hale does not give a fuck. True neutral for real.
Mythological Loki is...
Chaotic Evil
Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Good
Neutral Evil
True Neutral
Neutral Good
Lawful Evil
Lawful Neutral
Lawful Good
why do the morally-grey characters have such better music taste than the good ones. you'll see a morally grey character doing something evil to some kind of bop like bad guy, florence and the machine or hozier, africa by toto, some cool 80's or something, and then the main character will be sitting by a window, crying to ed sheeran or something.
Best way to describe each alignment
Lawful Good: "I follow the laws because they are good. Breaking the law is wrong."
Neutral good: "I want to do the most good for the most amount of people."
Chaotic good: "I will do what I think is right."
Lawful neutral: "I am governed solely by my creed and will do whatever is the best course of action so long as it aligns with my laws."
True Neutral: "I am governed by logic. The best course of action is what should always be done, regardless of impact on others."
Chaotic Neutral: "I am governed solely by my emotions and I will do good or bad depending on how I feel."
Lawful evil: "I do whatever I want but I also have a set of personal rules to keep things fresh and won't DARE break them'
Neutral Evil: "I will do whatever is to achieve my end goal and I don't care how many people get hurt."
Chaotic evil: "I have zero impulse control. I have no interest in end goals or honor, I just want what I want and anything getting in the way will be destroyed."
Thinking about alignment in D&D
So, alignments are... complicated. A lot of people seem to think we should just do away with it, and while I don’t necessarily agree, that’s just because I like alignment charts. Even in my case, the way I’d understand each alignment often differs from the way they’re popularly defined
putting yourself first is not evil, you have to either actively be making someone suffer or knowingly exploiting someone’s suffering for your own gain
”chaotic alignments oppose rules and hierarchies” we’re not talking about personal philosophies here, this kind of thing is why these alignments end up just getting played as Lol Random
neutral alignments should not just be “a bit of both” they should be their own thing that can’t be described as either lawful or chaotic/good or evil
and, more relevant to the point of this post, when I was getting into D&D and wanted to find out what the alignments meant I kept finding unhelpful answers that talked about some pretty huge lore that’s never come up in any game I’ve played in. And that’s the idea that your alignment actually reflects the side you’re on in what is essentially a cosmic proxy war between divine beings
If you’re going to have your entire setting be part of a cosmic proxy war I think that should be relevant to stuff that happens in the setting. I think it should affect things somehow. And while such a system isn’t necessarily what I’d go with for my own stuff, just because I dislike the idea of Cosmic Good and Cosmic Evil and so on, the concept could make for an interesting mechanic and campaign. So with that in mind, here’s what I propose:
There are two sliding scales, from 0 to 99. The first describes how much chaos there is in the world: 0-24 is Lawful, 25-74 is Neutral, 75-99 is Chaotic. The second is similar but for evil: 0-24 is Good, 25-74 is Neutral, 75-99 is Evil. The DM can either choose what these scales are on at the time, or roll 2d100 to decide. For instance, I just rolled a 99 and a 22, reroll the 99 because that basically means Chaos Has Won, and this time I got a 97 so it’s still Maximum Chaos (the world is actively in flux, any terrain is basically constantly changing and physics just Isn’t. You may need some more tables to roll on) but it’s not a total win for Chaos and things are still Good overall. (49 for both axes would be a True Neutral world, which is basically nature taking over and everything being in balance)
Aside from just a general idea of what the world is like based on those numbers, and possibly some stuff regarding the odds of meeting an NPC of a certain alignment that I won’t get into here (because I tried and accidentally messed up a spreadsheet), there’s two main effects of this:
First, if the world is in an extreme alignment and a player’s alignment matches, the player gets a number of inspiration die that depends on how far into that extreme the world is. These dice refill at the end of a long rest, and must be used for actions that fall within that alignment. Other alignments are not affected. Again, there’s a table below
If your lawful-to-chaotic and good-to-evil alignments both match you get both sets of inspiration dice. You can use either set depending on what alignment the action has. For the numbers I rolled, chaotic characters would get 5 Chaos Dice, while good characters would get 1 Righteousness Die. A Chaotic Good character would have 6 Alignment Dice total - 1 for good acts, 5 for chaotic acts, and any of them could be used for a specifically chaotic good action.
Logically speaking, NPCs would also have these, but we’ve already established that player characters are special because Reasons. (The Reasons are that it would make things less fun for the players.) For certain NPCs, a possible alternative might be giving them special abilities that get stronger the more the world tips in their alignment’s favour.
You may have noticed that, mechanically speaking, this means a Crapsack World would incentivize PCs to be evil - more chance of success after all. This can lead to some interesting stuff regarding the temptation to do evil, but there’s also the next part of this idea
Second, the world’s alignment can be changed.
First of all, it can change of its own accord. Stuff happens in the world. The scales tip one way or the other. Roughly once a week of in-game time, roll a d20 for each of the axes. 10 or lower? Subtract the distance from 11 from the number on that axis. 11 or higher? Add the distance from 10 to the number on that axis instead. So, I just rolled a 1 (lawful-to-chaotic d20) and a 16 (good-t0-evil d10). That means that the 97 from earlier becomes an 87 and the 22 becomes a 28, meaning the world overall shifts to Chaotic Neutral. Things are a bit less chaotic but still in flux, and things are starting to suck now but are not actually bad yet. Our chaotic good character now has no Rigtheousness Dice and 3 Chaos Dice.
It’s up to you as the DM whether this change just Happened, or something specific caused it. Maybe a bunch of city states were unified into a single empire, but the guy in charge now is kind of terrible? If the players notice the changes, they might try to figure out if there was a cause, and how they respond could result in a new quest.
The players can also affect the world’s alignment themselves. For each quest, either give the players a choice just before the final showdown (really, two separate choices - one between Law and Chaos, one between Good and Evil, both potentially having some sort of Neutral option as well) or let them come up with their own solution to the quest and figure out what alignment best describes what they came up with. Roll a d10 (or two d10s separately), rerolling zeroes, and shift the number on each axis towards whichever option the players picked by that amount. For Neutral options, nothing changes.
In the case of the example I’ve been using, let’s say the party chose a Lawful Good resolution overall - overthrew the tyrant (Good) but replaced him with a non-evil system of government instead of letting the new state shatter into city-states that may or may not end up warring with each other (Lawful). I rolled a 5 and a 9, shifting the 87 to 82 and the 28 to 19. Any good-aligned party members now have 2 Righteousness Dice, while any chaotic-aligned party members have 2 Chaos Dice, leaving our Chaotic Good Dude with 4 Alignment Dice altogether.
I would advise anyone who actually tries to implement this thing I came up with without testing it out, to only do the “once a week of in-game time, the world’s alignment shifts by itself” thing when the players aren’t doing a quest. You don’t want to accidentally cancel out their victory.
I,,,,want the sides to take a D&D alignment test ,,,,like in an asides episode or something like that. (Also this post has actually been a few days in making because I forgot about it in my drafts) SO that is what’s goin on under the keep reading
I'm Chaotic Good. We do what is necessary to bring about change, disdains bureaucratic organizations that get in the way of social improvement, and places a high value on personal freedom,not only for themselves but for others as well. They do the right thing but their method is disorganized and out of sync with the rest of society. A good example of a chaotic good character is Robin Hood. The D&D 3.5e Player Handbook nicknames this alignment as "Rebel"
Anyway heres my headcanons
Roman: I think Roman would be considered Lawful Good. Lawful Good characters are considered protectors, an iconic example is a Paladin. They typically act with compassion and always with Honour and a sense of duty. They often regret taking any action they fear would violate their code, even if the action is regarded as "good". Character examples are Lancelot, and again, Classic Paladins.
Janus: I believe Janus would probably be Chaotic Neutral. Chaotic Neutral characters are commonly called "The Free Spirit" . They follow their own whims like a Chaotic Good but unlike the Chaotic Good character they mainly focus on their own wellbeing. They're not evil about it, they just aren't necessarily motivated by the needs of others. (Example: Patton saying "we should still try to help those in need?" And Janus replies "whatever, sure if that's your thing"). Chaotic Neutral characters do what is to ensure their freedom, protect their free will end get the outcome they want. It could be a good action to get them there or an evil action, they don't care. If they take to many of one type of action they may fall into a good or evil alignment, I can actually see Janus falling into a Chaotic Good alignment. Character Examples are Captain Jack Sparrow, Cat Woman, Loki and Rocket (last two are MCU I'm sorry oop)
Remus: I think he'd also be Chaotic Neutral. I don't see him as an evil character of any type. He’s also definitely chaotic but not good so I think Chaotic Neutral fits best here. He probably would take more evil actions than good unlike Janus who would probably take more good actions than evil actions. However he is NOT Chaotic Evil. Chaotic Evil characters have no respect for rules, other people's lives, or anything but their own desires, which are typically selfish and cruel. This is not Remus or Janus.
Virgil: He's tricky tbh, but I think his best fit is gonna be Neutral Good. Neutral Good characters do the best to help others, but they do it because they want to, not because they are told to by a person or Society's laws. They generally follow the rules and laws of society, they do so because they lead to good outcome, rather than because they feel obligation. A negative about Neutral Good characters is that they care about upholding good more than abiding by law so they can adopt Chaotic behaviours and be unpredictable if pushed. Character examples would be Gandalf, Spiderman, Harry Potter and Frodo Baggins. Hot take Pre-AA he probably would have been Chaotic Good and was swayed into a a more neutral alignment with his acceptance.
Logan: A little tricky but less so than Virgil. He's probably True Neutral. They're neutral on both axes and tend to not feel strongly towards any alignment, or actively seek their balance. Neutral characters can be some of the strongest in existence because they aren't burdened by emotions (not to say they don't have emotions but that their emotions tend to not influence their actions) and don't worry about their good or bad intentions being misconstrued. They see things as they are and act upon each moment in whatever they see fit. They don't believe in upholding the rules and laws of society but nor do they feel the need to rebel. These characters can come off as apathetic and indecisive. They're frustrating to work with being they don't pick sides. Character examples would be Sherlock, Lara Croft, Juliet (Romeo and Juliet), and Malcolm Reynolds.
Patton: Alright so he’s the absolute hardest character for me to pick an alignment. You’d think he’d be a good alignment right? Yea, I thought so too but then I couldn’t figure out exactly what Good alignment he’d have. He’s not chaotic and he’s not neutral but still not quite lawful. If I was going to give him an alignment however I’d probably have to say the closet one is going to be Lawful Good but that still doesn’t feel quite right
