#ex sda

[iscariotapologist]

i think one of the most significant changes i've experienced in the fundamentalist to episcopalian process is that i'm not scared anymore. no more apprehension about walking into church, no more leaving services feeling miserable and angry and betrayed, instead it's now the highlight of my week and every time i leave rejuvenated and profoundly grateful. what a gift

[fadecrow]

"Do you REALLY hate organized religion or do you just hate American Christianity uwu" I think all forms of indoctrination into antiscientific beliefs (For serious purposes not like fucking Santa Claus don't be disingenuous) should be considered child abuse along with teaching your kids racism, sexism, queerphobia, classism, or ableism. (Probably a few other big -isms to count as abusive to teach too, I just don't want to list every single genre of violent prejudice.) So yeah, I hate organized religion due to the fact that it culturally normalizes easing your kids into it. If there was an organized religion that culturally normalized pushing your kids away from believing it so they'd only follow with strong evidence of it being good for them with NO grooming or proselytizing needed, you'd give me reason for an exception. I would still hate the broad concept due to how it's been used.

[californiaquail]

ok i have to pick this bone because i grew up sda (and "overweight" for that matter) and i obviously think we should rip them and the bmi to shreds but we do need to be accurate about it. so first of all i had never heard of adventists inventing bmi and was unable to find any sources besides this very confident tumblr user indicating any such thing so i looked in this book that this person is so loudly recommending and while i did not read the whole thing i didn't find anything in there to indicate that bmi is an sda invention, which makes sense because it was pretty famously just one asshole belgian guy, and notably he made it up in the 1830s before seventh-day adventism really became a thing (the great disappointment happened in october 1844 and they went from there).

second, and less importantly, there is no adventist rapture per se. strings does say "the adventists believed that the actual physical body would be spirited away...during the rapture" (172-173) and i'm not clear what her source is for this statement because they don't have one of those. i'm willing to concede that this may be just a semantic difference because they very much do believe in the second coming of christ and the physical body (+ the physical bodies of the resurrected dead) going to heaven but theologically it's not the same as a rapture (they actually care a lot about this difference at least in the modern day) and they are (now) quite clear that man does not know the day or the hour etc but the second coming is supposed to be something that literally the entire globe is simultaneously extremely aware of and able to see on account of many loud trumpets and jesus actual christ being there (i never understood how this was supposed to work given the fact that the earth is a sphere but clearly facts of reality are not their priority here) so it's not at all similar to like the left behind type of situation, which is what a "rapture" usually refers to in my understanding.

i'm not disputing the racist elements, obviously the bmi is deeply racist among other things, though i will note that while jh kellogg of cornflake (but! not bmi) fame was a tremendous racist and idiot, eg white (founding prophetess of adventism) was surprisingly an abolitionist (this is not me defending her she was awful but at least she wasn't in favor of slavery). i'm not sure if there actually were explicitly racialized standards for people going to heaven like the screenshat user states, though i wouldn't be surprised.

tl;dr adventists did not invent bmi but both those things still suck and so does the average tumblrina reading comprehension, but we knew that, also fearing the black body by sabrina strings does look like a pretty good book and there's pdfs

[secretartisanearthquake-blog]

I need to stop having insightful realizations about my childhood traumas at 5 in the morning after having gotten zero hours of sleep.

[wentthevent]

Nothing screams religious trauma more than me waking up from a dream and being worried that the pastors and little us were right about us being a prophet because we dreamed California was on fire and it could be clearly seen from Nevada.

I wish we could have a normal relationship with our dreams now but years of conditioning has made it difficult.

[caraecethrae]

I'm also working on an unbinding of my adventist baptism and vows right now.

If anyone would like the ritual I'm writing, based off the sda vows, shoot me a pm!!

[frankenmasc]

are there any ex seventh day ad/ventists on here? i found that i heavily relate to a lot of former jw’s and the whole ~armaggedon~ deal growing up in the church, but while it seems that the ex jw’s have formed their own community on here, i can’t find any former sda’s. would really like to see if any other ex sda’s can relate.

[psychic-cat]

#monthofspreads Day 4

Blockage

Two of swords

What I notice: the blindfold

Feelings: confidence, peace, comfortable and joyful within solitude.

Blockage: i don’t trust myself or my intuition.

Six of wands

What I notice: the barrier of wands

Feelings: anxiety, exhilaration, adrenaline, victory.

Blockage: I see competition where there isn’t any.

I wrote pages and pages for this reading. The Lovers kind of sent me for a tail spin.

I HATE the Lovers as the rider Waite depicts it. Detail that draws my attention: the divine figure looking over the Lovers. Feelings it makes me feel: unease. Fear.

This card has so much christian imagery in it. Imagery that reflects all the horrible, incorrect, and harmful ideas I was conditioned with about gender, sex, sexuality, love, relationships, my body, etc. I just. UGH.

I use witchcraft to distance myself from my upbringing. I use tarot and magik to protect myself from that. And I never wanted to admit how much of that shit was in one of my tools. I chose to ignore the large figure looking down on them. I never really realized how weird this card was for me until I was asked to examine it honestly. It hurt.

But anyways … The blockage here is clearly that I’m still afraid of an all powerful being punishing me for gay stuff lol.

I think I might need a break from tarot for a day or two after this lol.

P.S. I have PTSD from religious trauma, DO NOT message me to say J*sus loves me or I will block you.