i remember when the neverseen used to scare me and now it’s just *pans to four guys in robes*
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i remember when the neverseen used to scare me and now it’s just *pans to four guys in robes*
ruy, gethen, gisela, trix, fintan (incarcerated)
imagine if after rayani started spilling tea about trix and umber, sophie and the neverseen had a showdown and gisela brings out all these new people including trix and sophies like "who are you!" and gisela's like "this is trix" and sophies like "oh your the one who has a crush on umber" and the neverseen are like 'how do you know absolutley nothing about our plans, hideouts or members but you know that trix likes umber but you also don't even know what ability he has?" and then you can just hear ruy, vespera and gethen just laughing at Trix in the background.
Why Are The Neverseen Together?
I was randomly thinking about this after this post of mine about why Fintan is a good character.
Because from what we know, 90% of the Neverseen have incompatible beliefs with 2/3 leaders. Half the Neverseen wants the matchmaking sys abolished and the council ended, are very anti-eugenics, and are victims of at least systemic (if not domestic) abuse.
Gisela is a abusive evil human being, who abused both her son and husband and is fine with actively practicing making "the prefect version of the elvin race."
Vespera mainly just wants revenge on the Vackers, which aligns her with literally only Alvar. Then she also believes humans are scum, which aligns her with Fintan. The issue is she's also abused, tortured, and murdered people simply for her own enjoyment, then covered it up. This would put her at odds with almost every member of the Neverseen (for reasons talk about in this post), especially people like Umber, Trix, and Fintan- Who while we don't know what exactly was done to them, we still know that something fucked up happened to Umber and it's implied to be human experiments (a sadly dropped plot point), and Fintan, while he is an arsonist and criminal, generally doesn't seem to enjoy killing people for no reason. Or even doing so where he has to watch. (If we follow my line of logic Brant did Sophie's kidnapping due to Fintan being watched, and that Kenric's death was an accident)
So, why tf are the Neverseen still together? They literally don't agree on shit.
Coming back to why Fintan is the best: Its him. That's why the Neverseen feel so dumb recently. He's the reason they haven’t ripped eachother apart.
The people who know were recruited by Gisela are Glimmer (confirmed), and implied to also be Umber and Trix. BUT we also NEVER see Umber or Trix interact one time with Gisela, only Gisela calling Umber "her shade" and it being implied Trix joined with Umber.
Fintan recruited Gethen, who recruited Ruy and Alvar. I believe that Umber and Trix, no matter who recruited them, stayed because of Fintan's goals.
Why? Well compared to Gisela, Fintan not only has actually agreeable goals but also is charismatic and a decent leader. This group of people have wildly differing goals (and all kinda hate eachother) so they need someone who can actually lead to, you know, lead them
This theory also hinges on:
1. the fact that everyone but Ruy hated Alvar and Gisela (which is basically canon)
2. And that meant Keefe (who was recruited by Alvar) and Glimmer/Tam (recruited by Gisela) were kept semi-detached from the group, because they weren't trusted. Because they weren't Fintan's.
This could also be why Fintan allowed Keefe to have a bit more contact with him and the Neverseen, as he was testing the waters with Keefe first. Him being Gisela's son meant he immediately lacked any trust behind him, but him not being recruited by her meant he had a chance. Fintan just never believed he was actually willing to turn
I think this is also why the main group chooses to follow Vespera and not Gisela after Fintan's capture. Because Fintan broke Vespera out and Fintan was willing to co-lead with her (which she definitely didn't like lol). Fintan HATED Gisela and didn't trust her motives, so when Fintan is forced to give up his position, the Neverseen follows Vespera (to the point they literally leave Gisela for dead once reinforcements show up in Legacy). Why they never argue or try to overthrow Fintan when he gets Gisela chucked in an ogre prison. They don't argue with Fintan's means, motives, or choices, they just do it. They CONSTANTLY argue about Gisela and Vespera's.
Basically: The Neverseen as a dysfunctional found family can be 100% canon. Just only if Fintan's their collective father currently in jail, Glimmer and Alvar are estranged cousins/Ruy's BF no one likes, and Gisela and Vespera are the step-mother's that the kids they took in the divorce hate.
dearest mutual.. what are your thoughts on each member of the neverseen :)
our friendship depends on this btw /j
Oh dear... No pressure...
Fintan: very dramatic. I still love that scene in Neverseen where he revealed he was still alive because he had NO reason to 😭
Brant: I like Brant for many reasons, one being his connection to Jolie (my favorite character🥹) and his backstory. I still remember how insane his plot twist was during my first read of Everblaze. Also I think it's so fucking funny how he acted crazy for SIXTEEN years without breaking character I'm ctfu.
Vespera: She's very cool. Not only is she an ancient but she has crazy knowledge. She scarred up Biana which added some more development to Biana's character. I just don't think we saw her for very much page time, and since she's dead I guess we'll never know what she could've done.
Gethen: I'm very much one of the people who thinks he's Sophie's bio dad. The only evidence I have to backup this theory is Mr. Forkle being weirdly hesitant to get Sophie in a room with him in Lodestar.
Trix: genuinely so neutral like I don't even remember the scene where we meet her and don't care to reread it. I think it was in stellarlune.
Alvar: apparently this is an unpopular opinion but he is just a cheap pathetic twist villian. The reason why his plot twist doesn't work the way Brants does is because many of us weren't emotionally invested in the plot of the eldest vacker. Meanwhile in Everblaze we were momentarily stepping into Jolie's life and her time with the Black Swan. That's what made Brants twist hit so hard for many of us. Alvars reasoning was cheap and very much "I got no attention so now I'm evil" trope but done poorly. Unraveled pissed me off so bad, he doesn't deserve any bit of a redemption. HOWEVER I do like his parallels with Keefe and The Boy Who Disappeared, because I'm a sucker for parallels.
Umber: okay I was very much a fan of Umber and her powers, and I loved the effect she had on Sophie and Fitz, basically temporarily disabling them. Just for her to die in the same book we met her. Yeah no. C'mon Shannon at least play around with the echos you put in your main character a little more.
Glimmer/Rayni: not sure if I should add her since she technically isn't a member anymore but I have some things to say. She isn't very loyal and can switch up in an instant. However, if Tam trusts her, I'm willing to give her a chance. Tam is VERY good at knowing who to trust, he even kinda predicted Alvars evil reveal and Keefes joining the neverseen stunt. I also read the extra chapters in Tam's pov and she's very funny. Overall I like her.
Ruy: for some reason I thought he was dead but I'm pretty sure his abilities are just malfunctioning. He's pretty interesting, also just the fact that ANY psionpath can take down the force fields that incase Atlantis? Crazy security issue.
Lady Gisela: i won't go into her for very long because I'm also pretty neutral on her. I think her writing tries to make her seem nonchalant but in doing so it comes off as tacky. Overall never cared for her.
TY FOR THE ASK!! HOPE MY ANSWERS WERE TO YOUR LIKING 👀
Trix and Umber: "work together a lot"
Also Trix and Umber: *never seen together during Umber's two (and only) missions.*
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The Neverseen's Snowing Day
imagine if we just never find out what happens to gethen ruy and trix
trix. get OUT of my car. keeper sexyman 2025 @camelspit