#open zone

[slaket-and-sprash]

Tbh if we ever get a "banjo threeie" I don't want it to be an "open zone" style game like Sonic Frontiers, Mario Odyssey and DK Bonanza. Like don't get me wrong I love those games but they just feel too....bloated? Like I don't find myself replaying these games too often because of the sheer amount of content. I prefer shorter games that I can replay over and over instead of games that make a single playthrough feel like a marathon.

I do eventually want to see a Banjo game in that style. Just I think for what they should do for Banjo Kazooie's return is hire a larger indie team or a smaller 3rd party studio to make a 6th generation style banjo game. Like for PS2/GameCube/XBOX cross released on modern systems and have it be a direct follow up to Banjo Tooie. Like have it take place in between the events of Tooie and Nuts and Bolts and have it be in the same style of gameplay as Tooie just with modern QoL features and new creative levels to explore with interconnected quests. While also bringing back the 100 solo notes (that are collected permanently) and mumbo tokens from the first game.

Then if that game sells well enough you can do a modern day "open zone" style Banjo on Switch 2, Xbox Series X and PS5 which takes place 20 years after Nuts and Bolts.

I also would love to see remakes of Kazooie and Tooie similar to the Crash N Sane Trilogy and Spyro Reignited Trilogy but I dont think Microsoft is currently working on that due to releasing both ganes on NSO and the evercade in October (which i am 100% picking up the evercade nexus in October)

[universalzones]

"Gotta say, this 'Zone' is better than where I'm from. If it wasn't for the fact the Chaos Council will always be a threat I'd just relocate everyone here." If Rebel could end up in another universe then so could the council.

[blazehedgehog]

How do you feel about the new “Open Zone” direction the sonic series is taking?

The more I think about it, the more I don't like it.

There's potential in it. But the way Sonic Frontiers controls, and the way they present it, it's not very good.

The way Sonic snaps to floors and the camera jitters around feels like a bad fan game. It feels like Sonic was dropped in to an environment he wasn't made for and the developer didn't have enough technical knowledge to fix it. It reminds me of playing an old BlitzSonic game in 2007 or whatever.

And I can say with some amount of certainty that's because some of these assets were placed haphazardly, and others were probably bought and paid for from photoscan asset packs or whatever. Things absolutely have collision in ways they aren't supposed to have collision, and instead of tweaking them so they work in the context of Sonic Frontiers, Sega shrugged, used them as-is, and decided "eh, good enough."

That's why there are so many places in the open zones where if you're boosting and you collide with a small rock on the ground, it can launch you 200ft into the sky like a ramp. There are ways to fix that (or at least improve it), but they didn't.

Cluttering the sky with so many grind rails, springs, floating platforms, rings, and whatever also actively harms the experience. Since my third Sonic Frontiers stream, I've spent some time cleaning up the remainders of Chaos Island and I've poked around a little on the fourth island, Rhea.

Which, Minor Fourth Island Spoilers: Rhea Island is just Kronos Island again, but a different section of it that they wouldn't let you go to originally. But the real major change for Rhea Island is that it's... almost completely empty. At least at the start, there are no enemies, no rings, no kocos, no puzzles, nothing. There are six giant towers you have to climb, but otherwise these areas appear entirely in their natural beauty, unspoiled by Sega's attempts to flood them with "gameplay."

And all of a sudden the world has come to life around me in a way it hasn't before. Instead of looking around and figuring out how to use (or avoid) a chain of springs, bumpers, launchers and rails to get around the world, I am actually looking at the world itself for what feels like the first time. Instead of being the backdrop of a Sonic level, it has become a place. I look at ruins and I wonder, "what were you for?" I see fragments of houses, ancient roads, and lost temples. And it's interesting! This is what the game has been missing for me!

It just needed a chance to stop and breathe.

They were so afraid of looking boring that every island feels almost identical because they're all covered in the same six objects. None of the locations are allowed to be themselves.

This is one instance where I think less would have definitely felt like more.

[universalzones]

Open

"Does anyone want any flowers? I grew a bit too many which lead to over crowding so I figured I see if anyone wanted some." Silver had gotten really into gardening, though might've over crowded so figured they'd give some away to any who want them. The hedgehog didn't want any money either, just a good home for the flowers.

[botebot-10]

Sonic Frontiers is a collectathon.

Bring the horde.

[botebot-10]

Its hard for me to tell the difference between SEGA's "Open Zone" genre and collectathons..

The islands are big open places, but are they really open worlds? They are more like big stages with puzzels that reward you with stuff you need to proceed!

Just like Yooka-Laylee! Right??

[samuelhowitt]

Sonic the Hedgehog and Role-playing Games

Sonic the Hedgehog and Role-playing Games

I got Sonic Adventure much later than I did a few of the other games. When I actually got to playing it my prior 3D Sonic experience was from Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog. I expected, like those games, for Sonic Adventure to be a collection of ordered levels and just that. I was quite surprised to find that while it still had that, they had to be found by exploring a bigger world (which…

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[emeraldshifters-blog1]

Open Zone!

Who am I looking for?

Sally

Antoine

Rotor

Bunny

Vector

Espio

Charmy

Mighty

Ray

Amy

Eggman

Knuckles

Emerald-Shifters

Blue Emerald/Scourge

Clear Emerald/Silver

Purple Emerald

Light Blue Emerald

Yellow Emerald

Red Emerald